Sub Caliber Adapters How? Why?

Exploring options for sun caliber adapters

[@PaleoBushman]

I've been watching Dave since he started on KZbin. I even did some of the Pathfinder coursework while I was in Afghanistan in 2012. Much of this stuff has helped me to stay productive even under the worst of the circumstances. This is still one of the most underappreciated channels on KZbin, even after all this time.

[@newhouselockandkey]

I would like to take one of his in person classes as I'm only a couple hours from his school

[@Nitrisbot]

My fav vid he has done was back in the day. He had a few drinks and cut his arm on purpose to show how to sew (stich) the cut back up.

[@newhouselockandkey]

I just ordered a single shot break action shotgun so I can build my survival/ bushcraft shotgun

[@rickyflinchum2909]

I'm thinking about getting a single barrel 12 gauge myself, and getting these adapters for it. A little something to have as a just in case.

[@newhouselockandkey]

@@rickyflinchum2909 yea I'm planing on modifying my so it folds in half completely and adding storage in the stock like he shows in an older video

[@newhouselockandkey]

@@rickyflinchum2909 as well as buying a few of the adapters

[@topherd1011]

You sold me on these adapter systems longgg ago.. and they just keep getting better and better. I also highly recommend everyone take a class in reloading ammunition. It’s very valuable information to know in a doomsday scenario. As we shooters know, in an emergency or panic, ammo is the very first to go off those shelves. If you know how to load your own, you’re already ahead of the game. Buy the materials (powder, primers, projectiles, etc) when there is no panic, that way you have it in advance for a decent price. The stuff basically lasts forever in a cool, dry environment.

[@nil981]

While the stack pack adapters are definitely useful, I would much rather have longer adapter inserts 203mm (8") long.

[@lesliemiller5790]

does Short Lane make an 8 inch .22 LR adapter for the .410 shotgun? for the 20 GA. shotgun? if so, it would seem to me, that would be better than the 12 GA. adapter for .22 LR. And by the way, I have followed you from the start and really liked Dual Survival with you and Cody. Keep up the great videos.

[@johnrudy9404]

I've bird hunted with the same SxS 12g for many years. 10 y ago, bought a pair of 20g adapters. I dont use high brass. Low is sufficient. Having the gun loaded with 12 and 20g helps extend my ammo and allow me different shooting options. R bbl is mod, L bbl is full choke. The combinations and load amounts are quite useful. My 2 c.

[@robdavidson4945]

How does this system in a side by side 12ga. Double barrel. Do these adapters come in a longer rifle barrel length. Shooting a shotgun in one barrel and an accurate rifle round that would be accurate out to 250 yards would be wonderful. One of my double barrels has exposed hammers that allows me to select which barrel I use. Thanks for what you do.

[@jeffreystroman2811]

I had no idea these adapters existed, you really can learn something new every day.

[@MrGsteele]

A few years ago, I bought an el cheapo Fedarms SS12 folding/collapsing single-shot shotgun - to stuff in a backpack, and a flock of these adapters from various vendors - even including some 50 year old Savage Four-Tenners, that convert 12 gauge to .410 - as a project to evaluate the concept. I think it's brilliant, frankly, and it shouldn't be limited to single-shots. I have two side by side coach guns - one an outside-hammer black powder gun with Damascus barrels, that I'd only shoot 12 gauge black powder rounds in, but that with these adapters, which provide all the barrel/chamber strength required of the rounds they chamber, becomes a double rifle/modern smokeless 20 gauge/versatile platform - like a "Lego gun" equivalent in the shotgun world. Makes black powder Damascus guns usable field pieces again. These adapters work equally well in over/unders, giving you a rifle/shotgun combo or a centerfire/rimfire double rifle that switches back to a 12 gauge in a wink. My next test is with a Mossberg 600 pump using a smoothbore rifled slug barrel with rifle sights and a rifled insert, to capitalize on the sights. A manual load through the side port into the adapter (installed in the barrel before the barrel is installed on the gun) will require some workaround for the extractor/ejector, but it's a project - and that's exactly what these things are really good for - exploring what CAN be done, and how to work around the obstacles to extract the most versatility possible out of your armament inventory. Interesting video!

[@georgerector9252]

Wished they stocked 12 ga to 22 LR (rifled) and 38 Spl (rifled). Been checking their website for years, but always out-of-stock.

[@chuckcrump9891]

I had to do a little studying but I finally figured out where you were headed with this. I started with a single H&R 12 ga mod choke, bought the 8” 22 cal adapter and the black powder adapter, then I picked up a .22 cal pistol with both cylinders and a holster. I didn’t quite understand the reasoning with the 45LC/410 until I watched the Last Shot video and it all came together for me and made sense, so...I ordered the stack pack and am looking at a Bond Arms Grizzly 45LC/410 derringer.

[@Krauser84]

Mr Canterbury, thank you for these vids. I actually bought both your courses in Udemy earlier this week. I'm making bugout bags for the family now so thank you for this knowledge.

[@thereindeertherabbitthebat592]

I am a HUGE fan of sub cal shotgun adapters. I've collected so many in various calibers and manufacturers over the years, love every one of them. Fun plinking and a great way to stretch out ammo and save money. I have a couple of smooth bore ones but I def prefer the rifled adapters. All my rifled adapters are extremely accurate. Great video, thanks for sharing 👍

[@johnnorman7708]

Being able to use sub caliber has long been a real tool. I can see .45 Colt out of a single shot 12 ga as being very useful under some circumstances.

[@frankdavis1139]

How about my great uncle Winchester model 37 red letter made in the 1940s 30 inch barrel single barrel 12g full choke and his 1950s Stevens 12-gauge bolt action 28 inch barrel full choke . Love old antiques. Great content you share love the black power adapters 209 primer set up you talk about or make your own old shell or brass shells. Great content

[@johnmoss4624]

a single shot 20 or 12 is just a great utility gun. i have probably shot my "backdoor 20 gauge" more than any other gun i own. chasing off stuff bothering out chickens and such

[@tylertapp131]

Good stuff. I have a bunch of these adapters even more then dave showed. They're great little things for what they are. I did find that you can kind of "time" or "pattern" the 22lr adapter by rotating it in the chamber to see how it shoots. It's pretty damn consistent if you can remember what way you oriented it each time you put it in. Mine hits pretty much dead on with the adapter facing the 9 o clock position in the chamber. Basically putting the 22 closest to the left because it's off center of the adapter.

[@vulcangunner58]

I bought a "Rossi Matched Pair" (MP) in .22WMR/.410 a couple of years ago. I put a red-dot sight on the rifle bbl. (w/adapter), but left the irons intact. It breaks down into a 20" case and it's a nice, light, versatile addition to the car trunk. Great for camping trips...cost about $200 back then.(2020)

[@AA-gj3kt]

I picked up one of the Stevens after watching your original review. Not to crazy about the extra safety and the fact that it was made in China. All that aside a great gun to keep out in the ol Chevy. 👍👍

[@TheArby13]

I have a 301 in 20 ga. I love it. Light and powerful. Good choice for the demonstration. I have 3 Chaszel and 4 of the short adapters. It makes a couple guns good for every occasion.

[@commonsensepatriot9450]

Great video to illustrate the reason I need to order all those adapters and never sell my single shot 12ga!! Thanks Dave.

[@abangpadung8110]

I'm from IndiaNE sun raising Land Arun:achal Pradesh .i love to us caliber adapter. How I may get your adapter

[@jameswhite4010]

That's great to meet you. Your a very wish person do you have books on your vedioes to learn what you know. Because getting ammo is real hard to do. So learning how to make your own would be perfect. Like you said be prepared.

[@be4355be]

I've had these for some time. 9mm adapter is a must have because of its availability

[@DavidCanterbury]

Agreed

[@unitedstatesirie7431]

QUESTION, is there an adapter in the 5.56mm caliber that can be used in a 12 gauge shotgun ?

[@davem4193]

I've never seen one. Most 12 gauges aren't rated for the pressure of a 5.56.

[@thomassmestead9905]

I don't know about other areas of the U.S., but .410 and .45 Colt ammo have become not only more expensive, but scarcer than hens teeth, in my patch 'O the woods.

[@NWAAdventures]

Short Lane use to sell the blackout kit that was a black powder reloadable 12gauge shell kit. Been out of stock forever. I bought the stack pack though.

[@adrockey]

Great video Dave! I have the videos you did years ago about these adapters as a saved video. Also the one on the butt stock and fore stock that holds survival gear for the H&R shotgun. I already had a 20 gauge but found a 12 gauge a couple years ago and yet to buy the stocks for both of them. To me those stocks make sense for a survival situation. Maybe cover those butt and fore stocks as a added video to this series??

[@HeyJudeDistributing]

Didn't know there were adapters. Sooo good to know! Wish there was an adapter for .32 ammo. Guess I need to look for the adapter and a .32 pistol.

[@lewis1341]

Love your work, Dave. Thanks for everything you do

[@brain4154]

yes! I have been preaching the benefits of single-shot shotguns and caliber adapters for years and years! i have an old Rossi Trifecta and a whole kit of the 8in adapters in that nifty lil carrying case :)

[@gwpattrick]

Them are nice, had one years ago. All the adapters. Had to borrow it to my brother though, (mom and dad said so). He sold it. What joke maybe ill start looking into that again. Them are nice to have. Have a couple of different options .

[@hiramhaji7813]

Great shotgun.

[@michaelmcdonald6727]

Hey Dave, great video. I wonder how a 45-70 would work in that gun. Thanks much for making this video.

[@TheTimMarshall]

45-70, is that available? I’m not sure, but just with my limited knowledge of the utility of projectiles, there’s probably no need for one. A 45-70 is a heavy hitting, generally shorter range cartridge. (Also, an expensive one.) you can get that with a 12ga slug. These adapters are more for if you’re out and about, and need to shoot a squirrel with your 12ga, but don’t want to eat a bunch of lead, is my understanding. Or actually humanely take a deer in the same situation with a rifle cartridge.

[@blindfredy6128]

I think I’ll go with the 8” rifled adapter, should have similar accuracy as a pistol calibre with the barrel length.

[@walterashley149]

Saw that Blackie Thomas subs watched this, glad I clicked on it. Instant Subscription.

[@tommcqueen3145]

Good show

[@johnthomasjr262]

I have the adapters to run 12ga, 20ga, 28ga, and 410. I will be getting a 20ga 209 plug to add to it. Thanks for the idea

[@Gterr1971]

I bought my father this exact gun, wood stock though, for Xmas back when Wal-Mart still sold firearms.shot alot of geese on the farm with that bad boy.

[@be4355be]

Our walmart still sells guns

[@yellowdog762jb]

I have the 12 GAa to .38/.357 and the 12 Ga to 22lr. But sure they are by the she company, but they are pretty accurate at a reasonable distance. They work out of a Browning Citori over and under as well. In case anyone was wondering. I also have a 308 win to 32 adapter. In case I'm out with the 308 and I see a rabbit.

[@starlingblack814]

Thanks David, I'm not to familiar with these systems, but they seem really relevant in a SHTF situation. Is the "stack system" short enough to load single shot into a pump action 12 gage. And oh yeah, I would never waste a .22 round on an animal that was in a trap.

[@edwardvillate2112]

Again VERSATILITY & FLEXIBILITY, at it's BEST, with a BUDGET GUN, a TRUE SURVIVALIST & HUNTERS TOOL'S, .. MASSIVE THANKS 🙏👍‼️ DAVID .....

[@tybo09]

The first video of yours I watched was you showing how to use a break action shotgun as a black powder gun. Kind of wild how things have come full circle like that.

[@mrkultra1655]

Thanks Dave

[@BUZZKILLJRJR]

My uncle that I gave my 12-gauge too loves it, it is my very first H&R pardner and I gave it to stay in the family, and so I had an excuse to get one of those folding single single shot haha ,for me and each of my kids haha

[@amurphy4137]

I don't know how comments work, I have never bothered anyway my question is can I use an over and under and make the ultimate say 20ga top .22 bottom barrel?

[@DavidCanterbury]

Yes it will work fine

[@joaoantunescorreiafilho1080]

Good morning David! I would like you to know that I purchased your book 1, the Portuguese version. I apologize for not having bought in English, as my English is not so fluent! I loved and am loving every line of your book! Peace and Good to you and everyone on your team! Strong hug 💪!

[@donaldeugenealford4080]

School them Dave Canterbury ,I like the stackables,will they work on a ten Guage, Dave Canterbury.👍☘️

[@jamesstephenson8539]

I have the same gun but had my gunsmith shorten the barrel to 18.5" and replace the modified choke tube. Works great and is handier.

[@olumsezbey]

Didn’t the same company/guy already make a SS 12 ga shell for black powder?

[@thomasmarable6927]

I use the "stack n pack" on my midland back pack 12ga. It's a great combo for a small foldable 12ga for a survival gun.

[@johncaster8037]

Very informative! Thank you Dave!

[@flyone8350]

Interchangable 18" barrels would be better.. 22lr, 38spl/357mag, 308, 12ga, 16ga, 20ga all in a roll out canvas blanket.

[@brain4154]

i'm lovin the mountain man vibes that Dave is puttin off lately, so jealous of his life!!

[@BrockNessMonster1991]

Thanks Dave, I have been enjoying my 12ga Steven’s 301

[@j.p.saverance8972]

I never knew they made an M6 Scout in .357 over .410!

[@SGBass]

I have been trying to find a 12 gauge adapter for my .410 Rossi, I am so disappointed they don't have an adapter for this gun yet!

[@misfitledoux1312]

I wish a 9mm/.38 sleeve would've been included between the .410 and .22 sleeve. If that's even a possibility, because most 38s and 9mils dont have a rimmed case 🤔

[@rickyhollifield7699]

You talking about versatility with a 12 gauge shotgun and the adapters ???? Please read my comments !!!!

[@williameberhart3505]

Sir, I have a question. I have a Steve Arms, model 105 with a 36 inch barrel. Will the above kit work in it? It is chambered in 2&3/4" only.

[@kumbackquatsta]

fascinating, thanks for the breakdown and demo

[@kenthatfield4287]

I am sorry I should look at what I am saying I am not typing this I am using the microphone and the microphone isn't picking up my voice very well. You can adjust your powder load in a 12-gauge shell you can also adjust your shot load. The country boys back in the eighteen hundreds were able to Bark a squirrel with a 58 caliber gun. I shot a rabbit with a 30 out six and I still had meat left. The rabbit did not have a head left much just the top of the head and the ears. But I was able to eat the rabbit. 22s have their place, you're better off just getting a muzzleloader then you can mold your own ammo. And if things got real drastic you could use rocks in it. And you're better off getting a flintlock. You can always find Flint but you can't always find caps or primers for your modern guns if you can't find pyrodex for black powder you can use potassium nitrate and sugar. And you can also use match heads. If you wanted to you could put a sleeve or a sabo and use a 22 out of your muzzleloader. At short-range that should do the Trick. This way you're carrying one gun and your possible bag

[@lonewolf286]

Will can I get a buy that 410 adapter for my 12 gauge single shot? What can I get it at? Cuz I love counting a 12 gauge in the woods. His mighty comfortable having a 12 gauge when you're in the deep woods. It's all kinds of things you can run into when you're three or four miles away from everybody else, but having a 12 gauge and shooting something at 10 ft can make a mess of it so you can always use that 410 adapter. I'd love to have one. Please let me know where I get one

[@brotherbruno1783]

I only use the 22 adapter and keep the rest as a backup, but I found something pretty interesting. If you run a 22 revolver alongside this setup, you will get better accuracy at distance as the rounds don't tumble out of the barrel. But at 10 yards, the grouping was virtually identical with the adapter as it is with the pistol. It lands pretty much where the bead is. It was when it went out to 15 yards that it really started to open up to about a 5 inch group, and that may be because the bead starts to obscure the target more. Still, it works as intended. Definitely nice to have in a pinch

[@beshkodiak]

I have an antique Hopkins & Allen drop block single shot shotgun and put a .45 acp adaptor in it. Shoots like a dream!

[@leehaynie1796]

How about a brass shotgun shells.loaded with black powder. Will the brass swell up and stick in the adapter.

[@randyjohnson4614]

Great video Mr. DAVE

[@robert4027]

I wonder if home made black powder will work. thoughts please ???

[@anonymous_friend]

So would the powder you made jn your recent videos work well with the reloadable 12g shell?

[@philp411]

Stevens is almost half way to a combo gun. I have a couple Savage models and really like them. I’d like to see a video on the TPS M6 357/410.

[@DavidCanterbury]

And it to would be demonetized just like this one has been

[@willvandermeer4733]

Where can I find the measuring shell you used for the black powder?

[@rustyjohnson9558]

Maybe they could make a bullet with the hollow point on the side........

[@donscottvansandt4139]

Ever thought about saving the spent primers and using them as actual shot? That would be interesting to see...

[@georgeaddison5628]

I think its awesome

[@mikekemper9566]

Got .28 gauge for 12 gauge guns.... allota cheaper than buying a new gun

[@ValMartinIreland]

Once the charge leaves the adaptor there is no barrel to keep in the gasses so velocity is reduced.

[@lonewolf286]

What is the cost of the adapters for the shotgun? And can you tell me again where I could get them? Appreciate it partner

[@kenthatfield4287]

You going to just your powder load and also your shot load in the 12 gauge and have a perfectly profession gun for all situations at close range. What you could use is a rifle insert and a scope mount on your 12 gauge then you can convert your 12-gauge into a rifle capable of hitting game at three hundred yards or more

[@TC-bj8pu]

Enjoyed the vid. Thx! New subscriber too!

[@jwgbmp40]

I have an 45lc 8" rifled insert I use in my 12g H&R, it is deadly to 50 yards..

[@ironichumorist]

why not make these adapters a few inches longer. yes it would be a few more ounces but it would reduce tumbling and increase accuracy and velocity.

[@WannabeWoodsman]

Wonder what those sideways rounds would do to an animal. Looks vicious

[@jakewells40]

What happened to the partnership you had with these guys, dave ? You used to sell them as well to much hassle ?

[@LShapedAmbush]

How accurate is the 8" rifled .22 LR adapter? I keep looking on the net for some groups shot with it but all I ever see are comments like "Accurate enough." I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has shot it on paper. Thanks.

[@rickyhollifield7699]

You might want to put a little tape on the blank side to help when loading up - please let me know what you think ???

[@michealkolnik1331]

You definitely made me think Twice about the adapter stack pack, I will have to go looking for them at the next show

[@SHTFHunter]

I have the whole Chiappa 12ga adapter set. I also had that Alaskan gunsmith make me a 10' 30-30 adapter. I may have to buy a Short Lane 22lr adapter now. It's a kit for my Survivor stocked, Tracker non-rifled New England.

[@christopherstransky9581]

Does all of this apply to break open double barrel shotgun?

[@canaldodavila]

Congratulations fom Brazil. Cool video.

[@WannabeWoodsman]

There are other adapters that will let you shoot 45-70 and yes they are rifled

[@dhooter]

Starting to think Dave lives in Washington State. When isn't it raining? Lol

[@jacspring5459]

Cool. Interesting stuff. Thanks.

[@guynall4025]

I carry a 22 lr and a 9 mm adapter for my midland arms backpacker 12 gauge

[@jameschambers3171]

I 💜 snack pack s 🍮, 🗡️ ✊

[@joshuamelby]

Yes, this is a very useful tool. Cool!

[@bryanschaefers356]

Will the adapters work in an over and under shotgun?

[@18C_Sapper]

Dave awesome video, I’ll be looking for those adapters and that Steven’s gun

[@goose45015]

What made you go with the .720 over the .710 round ball.

[@allenbrian72]

Dave that’s cool I was thinking of doing that but was worried about strength n all with shooting but now I’m not worried thanks.

[@rickyhollifield7699]

I used a 3 inch adapter - it worked for rats for sure !!!!