Remington 870 vs Mossberg 500: Battle of the cheap shotguns

[@JoeMac1983]

Best breakdown of these 2 shotguns that I've seen! Well done!

[@timbowalk]

I bought my Mossberg 500 at age 15 I'm now 37 I've never seen it malfunction it has never broken

[@waynesligar5948]

I shoot the Mossberg that shoots 2 3/4 to the 3 1/2 shell's and I've owned it for 25 years and i love it

[@thundercricket4634]

I bought a Mossberg 590A1 about 2 years ago and I love the thing.

[@guardianminifarm8005]

Thanks gents. Enjoy your vids. I bought my first 870 in the early 80s. A beautiful wingmaster. I have owned more 870 Sportsmans than I wish to count. Good solid guns. I bought the Mossberg 590 20 years ago. Gamechanger for me. Things got tight a few years ago and I sold it. I bought an 887 Remington to replace the 590. Not a fan. Bought a 500 combo with adjustable stock, fully rifled slug barrel(scope). Not unhappy with it. It isn't a 590.

[@fred788]

My 870 wingmaster was my first shotgun and still my favorite of all time. Shot my first buck with it. Love that gun.

[@thomaskennedy8293]

Yeah I have a 500 and it’s a wooden stock and the grip is perfect

[@Voyagerss77]

Same here

[@Gottaculat]

The FLEX is just fine; these guys are holding the stock like rookies; your thumb should never be over the top of a traditional style stock. It's a stock, not a pistol grip; your thumb should be parallel with the barrel. Not sure how these guys don't know this, as it's super basic fundamentals of marksmanship. I guess they've grown up around pistol grips where you do put your thumb around, and they're incorrectly applying that grip to the older style of rifle/shotgun grips/stocks.

[@edenbehnke2702]

Yes

[@warrengreen3217]

I have the 500 in wood stock believe its called the field and sport for hunting

[@GI-rt7ol]

I’ve got a youth model Remington 870 20 gauge I got for my 8th birthday. I’m 19 now and still like it more than my 12 gauge. Love how small it is

[@drgdfhfdhfd498]

I had both, and they are both very reliable but the balance and shootabilty feels alot better in the 870 for sure.

[@Stephen-er4bi]

Great video guys, best comparison of the two I've ever seen. I've a 500 for 35+ years, no malfs, no rust, and I really like the tang location of the safety. It's been through hell and still looks good. Furniture was replaced with synthetic once it went from a hunting gun to home defense. Sold the wood and got back half of my original new purchase price of $165 for the Mossberg with a 28", a 20" bbl and a full stock and pistol stock. Add a 88 with a 7+1 cap and 20" bbl for only $180. These are bargain guns that run well and, at least with the old one, lasts for decades of heavy use.

[@drdes9609]

870 was my first shotgun and it was great but when people ask my option I always tell them the 870 is good but go with a mossberg. Remington quality inspection has dropped in recent years and the 870 has had very little improvements on the gun.

[@coleparker]

I agree. I looked at a recently made Remington as compared to my Mossberg 500. I found the quality of the latter to be much more than the former. A friend of mind has an old Remington 870 from the 60s. Like the Mossberg, the quality over the new is remarkable as well.

[@jakep111]

They ruined Marlin too

[@anythingfastimdown]

Freedom group ruined Remingtons name. I'm still gonna go with Remington just based on I have broke 2 firing pins in my mossberg. But Remington did at one point make the better shotgun. Remington 870 used to be twice the gun a mossberg was. Now I'd rate them as even. Except I have broken two firing pins in my mossberg 500. Which is concerning.

[@coleparker]

@@anythingfastimdown Really? two firing pins. That is interesting. What do you think may have caused that?

[@lexwaldez]

Got my first 870 Wingmaster in... jeez just around 1980? Beautiful burled walnut stock and the shotgun was amazing. I hunted with it for over a decade before it was stolen. Today's Remington is NOT the Remington of old. I purchased a Browning Light 12 to replace that old WIngmaster which I like. I'm looking at getting a Stoeger pump now. I like the take down and action of the Stoeger better than the Mossberg. Mossberg is a solid choice tho; you can't go wrong with it.

[@marksample6230]

I'm biased. I've had the Mossberg for years and it's my favorite gun.

[@bjjukes4969]

I have had my 870 for over 30 years and have never had any serious issues with it. Many of the things they have brought up are true - particularly the rust thing (I use mine as a hunting gun, so moisture is always touching it). I would have a hard time switching at this point because the gun has been so reliable for so long.

[@lophophorawilliamsii9740]

Laughs with my $50 Maverick 88

[@TheLyingFigure]

lol whenever someone asks me if they should get an 870 or a 500 i tell them to get a maverick and more ammo

[@tactical_sasquatch]

I got my 88 all pimped out for HD!!! 😎

[@1987StoneAge]

And all 500 extras work on the 88. So great

[@garrettcurry6637]

The 88 is the perfect centric pump action imho especially with the placement of the safety

[@michaelbradley770]

Had my 88 for 14 years cant say how many rounds between grouse and duck hunting had my first issue last week something got into it and jammed the action release button no fault of the gun itself but for some of the condition I hunt in i cant see spend big money on a shotgun

[@davidkilby1043]

I trained Marines on the 500. Mostly they were voluntold to be security on ammo supply points. Never had enough time to really teach it, but all the Marines I trained were proficient. I hated when we went to the benelli

[@pzkrispy2058]

They still use the 500, Chesapeake Va right? I remember one kid failed 7 fucking times, they passed him but still...

[@tommygatch]

Had both the 500 and 870 at Marine Barracks Hawaii. Always preferred the 500.

[@archer721]

Like I said - “simple enough that even Marine can use it!” 😉

[@burnyburnoutze2nd]

That part you were referring to is actually the ejector; the extractor us the claw on the bolt that grabs the shell on loading and unloading from the chamber.

[@whomagoose6897]

Upgrade the Remington 870 with the Volquartzen extractor. A high grade steel custom milled part. Far better the that factory OEM that is MIM fabricated.

[@LivinfreeinTennessee]

I’ve run a 500 field series for decades, for dove, quail and duck hunting. Absolutely flawless and very dependable.

[@wadedag]

Agree - the Mossberg is better. But you missed what to me is one of the more important differences - loading is way easier on the Mossberg. Turn it over and you can drop shells into the slot. On the Remington, if I’m not mistaken, you have to push the elevator out of the way which requires a little more care and slows you down as a result.

[@gloppy101]

Nope. I can load a 870 faster than my Mossy rattle trap. Balance goes to the 870.

[@guaporeturns9472]

@@gloppy101 🤥

[@legendindamakin5007]

Just got a rem 870 for my bday and I love it!

[@srla.5145]

Happy birthday philip

[@legendindamakin5007]

@@srla.5145 thx man

[@jake9705]

To prevent rust long-term, use Renaissance museum wax. It doesn't run off over time like oil.

[@PomazeBog1389]

*_HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BUDDY._*

[@kdcustoms1272]

to bad it won't a 500... lol jk

[@Dadlife911]

Good choice! Been using a 500 since I was a kid. I’ve heard the 870s quality control has gone down hill over the years along with the rest of Remington. I will have to say the Remington has two wins though. First for some reason they are more aesthetically please and second if you are using a pistol grip the safety works better

[@diversify210]

I chose the Mossberg 590 of the Remington 870 for one reason and one reason only. The action release. The action release on the mossberg sits behind the trigger and allows it to be pushed with out ever taking your hand out of the firing position. The action release on the 870 does not allow that. Having to move your strong hand from the firing position to manipulate the firearm is not a good thing to me.

[@gregphillips1998]

I’ve had my mossberg 500 for 35+ years and love it. I changed the original wood stock for a new adjustable flex stock and immediately noticed the difference with the grip like you demonstrated. So I think the difference is the flex stock. I still use it because I was able to adjust the length of pull to better suit me.

[@davidmorningway6025]

Did you get a knock Stock? Best in my opinion.

[@joeydoesthings4955]

I have an 870 express from the 80’s. The action is good. I love the shotgun! I wouldn’t trade it for any other shotgun.

[@Abv.24]

Joey is Losing Weight not even a mossberg?

[@JohnDoeRando]

Same here. It's my duck and goose gun.

[@joeydoesthings4955]

Tactical Nugget24 no, I wouldn’t trade it for a Mossberg, but I respect Mossbergs.

[@ulflyng]

Keep it

[@Gottaculat]

I absolutely love the FLEX model because you can transport it in a case that's as long as whatever the longest barrel is you want to run. Mine is stored in a 30" long case that fits perfectly in my tiny little trunk (2014 Chrysler Town & Country), as I can in seconds pop off the stock and unscrew the barrel, and just as quickly reassemble it. I'm thinking about making an aluminum walking stick that houses the barrel, keeping it free of debris and moisture, and just popping the stock and receiver in my backpack for hiking out to hunting spots. Might even make the upper part of the hiking stick house my fishing rod (disassembled) as well. Options are a great thing to have, and being able to offload the weight of the barrel to the ground as you hike I think is a great idea. Maybe even make a spot where the barrel can thread into the hiking stick to prevent rattle and not need to add foam inside the compartment.

[@noahway13]

Got a 870 when I was 14. I'm 52 now. Love it. Smooth as silk. I purchased a 870 express a few years ago. I always would stick, tried several ways to fix it. Finally sold it. Saving a few dollars in manufacturing will bite you in the ass in the long run.

[@ihateurmom]

I have both a Mossberg 500 and a Remington 870. Fit and finish goes to the 870, it's the home defense hardwood model and it looks and feels so great! As far as function goes, the Mossberg is better. The only way you can decide between the two is to buy both.

[@pikefisherman1978]

Great channel guys. My uncle just gave me a 1969 870 wingmaster as he recently had a stroke and can't shoot anymore.

[@paulh7589]

I'm ready to buy. I was leaning toward the 870 until I saw this informative video. Thank you very much, Gentlemen. It's Mossberg for me.

[@gloppy101]

Enjoy the Mossy, but the Rem is made better (especially the trigger). If you want real smooth action, grab a Wingmaster. Done.

[@paulh7589]

@@gloppy101 I have not bought one yet. almost a year has gone by. You like yours? I just want to shoot birds and clays.

[@qc_forbes7438]

I just bought myself a 500, pretty happy with my choice, good quality for a low price

[@ralphperez4862]

Great video guys. I agree that the Mossberg is moe betta than the newer 870’s. However, the old Wingmasters were just premier failsafe shotguns. I’m fortunate to have owned both. I still own and hunt with the Mossberg. I bought it just about 10 to 12 years ago. I’m very pleased with my choice. I do miss my old 870 though. It was appropriated by my son, who is about guys age and has a son coming up. That is something I’m looking forward to shooting with him. Thanks for the fun video. You two make me laugh.

[@troydixson1394]

I'm thinking somewhere the rem is still selling and shooting reliably the upstate NY company has a great rep but the moss 500 started out at roses and sky city and reg Walmart it retailed about 129 it was a shotgun folks hunted with and kept the rem semi autos behind glass 1000 rounds later shooters realized holy shit these guns still work I'm sorry the extra round doesn't hurt as well now when someone realizes the consumer is the market for a brand they should carry it those 2 guns somehow dictate the gun industry as a whole I'm not sure how u tell me

[@seanmatthews8668]

Great video gentleman I'm a mossberg 500 fella but you were extremely fair with pros and cons of both I do love 870s as well but a 500 just fits me a bit better with the ergos well done.

[@matthewruhland8443]

I could watch your videos all day! I expect your channel to grow exponentially in the future! Great job guys!

[@FyremaelGlittersparkle]

I have a Mossberg 500 Persuader and the trigger is in a nice place for me, and my hands are probably normal size.

[@SteepDownHIll]

Have you thought about the Winchester SXP? It's Winchester's reintroduction of the 1200/1100. It's $330 at Cabela's. Definitely deserves a seat at the table, because it would win.

[@johnsimms818]

I have a mossberg 500 and a 590 and really like both .best feature on both is the location of the safety as I am right handed and shoot left hand and works out well for me .both the 870 and 500 models are great shotguns.

[@timrussell89]

Nice video, just subbed. These two guns are workhorses. I've had a 870 that I literally paddled boats with duck hunting and it never let me down. Shot a mossberg 500 for years without any issues and now I shoot a mossberg 835. Basically the 3.5" chambered version of the mossberg.

[@eric6853]

My first shotgun was a Mossberg 535. (Basically a 500 that shoots 3 1/2" shells) The mossberg safety works better for me. It was my defense shotgun, hunting gun, and trap/skeet competition gun in college. I'll never get rid of it. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on an older 870 though.

[@amoose8439]

I've got both guns, like em both maybe the mossbergs more. I put a magpul stock on my mossberg 590 and the grip placement does alieviate the trigger reaching issues.

[@EazyT8439]

I have a 870 and have no problems they mentioned except for the barrel rusting. I just use a synthetic oil and have never had a issue since. I’ve shot thousands of rounds through it and it still looks and feels like new

[@poonbandit9924]

I love my old 870 wingmaster with a fixed full choke barrel. I also love the mossberg, they’re both famous pumps for the same reason, they just work

[@antitactical]

If you take a little steel wool on a wooden dowel, chuck it into a drill and run it in the chamber area on the barrel of the 870 it will quit hanging up. Every 870 ive messed with had a tighter chamber than other shotguns

[@peteloomis8456]

I use a brake cylinder hone set with light spring pressure with some machine oil to lubricate the Stones & it works great .

[@jmabs5096]

I have a 870 express I bought about 10 years ago, no issues but you can't baby the action. If you baby it that's where you find sticky action. Mossberg is a very handy shotgun nice and light, action is very smooth. Downside is adding more shells. You can't go wrong with either or, tremendous track record. Comes down to user preferences

[@604billyboy]

If you want the extra capacity on the Mossberg you need to get the 590. More positives on my 500 for me, but the 870 to me has more aftermarket goodies available.

[@thomasgates8156]

I've had multiple 870s since I was 12 and carried one on watch in the navy and never had a problem with the action sticking.

[@Valscorn01]

And your 870's were likely from the 1980's or earlier....

[@duanabsa9993]

We used the Mossberg a lot in the military without any major issues. It scares me a lot though when I saw a video by one youtuber dochinson, about the extraction lever getting detached when we accidentally drop the weapon even from a foot height from the ground.

[@rickyshultz2051]

The lighter made lifter is the cause I think, my older ones don’t have that problem!

[@xXReLentLess99Xx]

That's exactly what I had to do with my 870. The left side of the barrel had burrs on a brand new 870 magpul edition. I had to polish them down and after that. Runs without not stoppage. It sucks to buy a gun and do work on it to make it run right.

[@MD-mm1zv]

Andrew What method did you use to fix it? Was it just that one issue...or did you address other areas (like the extractor or springs)? Thanks.

[@xXReLentLess99Xx]

@@MD-mm1zv there was a burr on the left side of the barrel. Kinda like the extension part. The brim of the casing was hitting that and causing it to stop it. I had to take it down and renish and work off material until smooth the burr out. Simple and easy but should have not needed to be done

[@johnkendall6962]

I know I'm weird but I like the safety being on the trigger guard. I have shot the 870 and the 760 so much that it is automatic for me. It's hard for me to reach a tang safety if the gun is shouldered. My father had a savage model 99 with the safety on the lever. I loved that gun but he traded it for one with the tang safety. Cost me a nice buck years later. I have 2 Remington 870s 1 from the early 1960s and 1 from the early 2000s. The early one is much slicker but I cannot guess how many shells have been through it

[@anthonystubblefield4987]

With the middle bead on the 870 you can also stack them such like a figure 8 and that pre loads a lead for shooting birds of moving objects!

[@andrewrussell2513]

The hammer sound when describing the recoil pad on the 870 is priceless.👌👌 Thank you 🤣🤣🔨🔨🔨

[@chunt4694]

With that model of 870 the forend stock tends to bind up on the receiver. The wood of the forend stock extends to far back and can cause problems, by binding againest the receiver. Changed out my factory stock, to a Hogue rubberized stock and fixed the problem. Also changed butt pad to remington cell pad and it helps with recoil.

[@robertrockwell7581]

still own the 870 express i bought in the early 80s for deer hunting . and will never get rid of it.

[@bgdesignandsolutions]

You two remind me of me and an old friend of mine, He is a dedicated Mossberg fan, and I am a dedicated 870 fan. Neither of us would budge from our taste.

[@shamrocks521]

I feel that, if you like a gun enough you can make it work regardless of any shortcomings

[@XAVargasX0206]

Im left handed and would prefer the mossberg for the safety alone

[@jerrykemphfer9436]

I bought a 870 express left handed. Must have been old stock really nice gun.

[@JamieLeeMcFadden]

I have the same issue. Riffles I usually stick with Savage but am going to be getting a Mossberg for this reason. My only compaint on my Mossberg Maverick is it does not have the same safety as the big brother.

[@sheepdawg6946]

I sent my 870 to vang comp and they buffed it out and it is as smooth as silk. I own several and both are great shotguns.

[@midrang3r]

I had sticking issues with my 870 when I first got it. All I did was take it apart (basic) and scrubbed everything down and then oiled the slide and trigger mechanism w/ bolt group and it’s so smooth now.

[@Combat556]

I have 3 Remington 870’s: a 1978 Wingmaster TB, a 1998 Wingmaster Trap and a 2007 Express. The Wingmaster’s run smooth with no issues, but the Express had the shell sticking in the chamber issue from day one. I honed the chamber with a 20mm flex hone and oil, and that eliminated the issue.

[@badgerrrlattin35]

It's the cheap easily changed barrels available for the Mossberg 500 that tickles my fancy.

[@lucky43113]

I have the blackpowder barrel for the 500

[@lumenpraetorius4592]

Great video, guys. And very helpful to see you compare the pluses and minuses of the two shotguns. Thanks!

[@duanabsa9993]

Please measure the length of where you grip the stock, to the trigger of both guns, then we can really know if it will be an issue for people with small hands.

[@donswearingen9805]

I have one of both. But when I leave the house for small game or birds? A Mossberg 20 ga. bolt action model 485 with a poly-choke. Bought it off a Buck Sergeant in 1982 for $15. My go to shotgun.

[@pistolpaulie4871]

After watching this vid. I went and got my 2 mossberg 500. Both of mines have wood. I didn’t have or see the grip problem. From what I’m seeing y’all setting your hands to far back. I also got a 870 express. Yes.. the action does stick sometimes on mines as well. My 1970s 870 wingmaster. Never ever had a problem with it.

[@Samueldonovan2007]

I have an old Remington from my dad. I have NEVER experienced the action problems

[@poolee77]

It's a result of the budget "Express" 870s. Police Magnums and Wingmasters are generally better.

[@peterdragon6367]

Weird. I can reach the trigger easily on the 500

[@johnphillips222]

I feel the same way.

[@Gottaculat]

I have the FLEX model and reach the trigger just fine; these guys are holding the gun like rookies with their thumb incorrectly over the top of the stock and their grip about an inch too far back. Your thumb should be parallel to the barrel, not perpendicular. It's a mistake a lot of novice shooters make, treating a traditional rifle/shotgun stock like it's a pistol grip. I'd bet they aren't getting proper cheek welds either, because if they were, first hot load they fire and their thumb is gonna be smacking their nose.

[@qouavang3646]

I got small hands and I can reach the trigger... they must just be pansies

[@3313-c2j]

@@qouavang3646 llol

[@Magisktification]

His grip is fundamentally wrong.

[@Kaufeetimevideo]

I would suggest an Ithica m37 featherweight but suggested retail $1.199.00 is not comparable to the 500 or 870.

[@harrymusgrave2131]

Years ago. The 500 came out with black plastic stock, full stock, with pistol grip. Very accurate with rifled slugs. And for shot; a V pattern the size of your front door very comfortable to hold and shoot. It was a 22 inch barrel. I had mime tooled for chokes. Also awesome. But, at a sacrifice to the perfect home defense, and slug barrel.

[@thomasthomas5963]

I'd love to see how they hold up against something even cheaper like the H&R pardner pump

[@markgoodwin5074]

As a left handed shooter the tang safety is the tie breaker. I like the 870 but have never bought one. I've purchased several 500's. For home defense it's a no brainer.

[@ratcamaro]

I compared my Remington 870 and standard non Flex model Mossberg 500 and the reach to the trigger is longer on the 500. It doesn't bother me at all. I didn't notice it until you mentioned it.

[@joey160000]

Nice video. Had my Mossberg 500 persuader 12 gauge shotgun since 2012. Traded a friend for a 28" barrel for hunting nice heavy duty barrel. Then later I ordered a slug rifled barrel for use with sabot slugs.

[@ulflyng]

The 1950s price of the 870express adjusted for inflation is the price of todays wingmaster. So ofcause there are shortcuts. But the shortcuts of the 870 can be fixed. Polished chamber, non-MIM extractor, better bluing/parkerizing. The downsides of the Mossb are more diff to improve. Aluminum reciever(sorter lifespan), trigger housing can break off, lifter can pop out of the holes in the reciever. But I don't think anyone would be under gunned with any of them

[@blueduck9409]

I really like my 870 express magnum. I forgot the the 870 has a steel receiver compared to the Mossb. I have shot my 870 quite excessively. I have had times where i put at least 500 rounds on skeet in one day, with out any problems or fails. The only complaint i had was a massive bruise on BOTH of my shoulders!

[@shaneminor5932]

Owned the Remington 870 my whole life like to see y'all put it up against the Winchester Super X

[@yahusrevus]

Weird. My first shotgun as a 13 year old was a Mossberg 500. (This was over 30 years ago.) After one range session, I placed the 500 in a case and took it home. The next time I took the shotgun out of its case, the WELD that holds the magazine end cap to the barrel was broken. The barrel actually fell to the ground out of the end of the shotgun while the cap was still screwed in to the end of the magazine tube. To this day, I am so thankful that this was noticed before firing the shotgun again. Needless to say, that Mossberg 500 was returned for a refund. (Ah, yes... The good ol' days when you could walk into your local K-Mart and buy a shotgun with no real paperwork and return it, no questions asked, if there was a problem.) That same week I went and bought a Remington 870 Express that I still own to this day. Personally, I found the action of the 870 to be WAY smoother than the 500 I briefly owned. The 870 action is also considerably smoother than the Mossberg 835 I own. (Yeah, 3.5" shot shells sucked me back in to Mossberg when that gun launched.) So, all in all... I dunno, fellas. I now own 2 870s and an 1187 and they all operate like a dream compared to any Mossberg shotgun I've ever owned and/or shot. I guess I've been extremely lucky and for that I'll be thankful.

[@jurist6498]

Enjoyable video. Well done. I have an 870 Marine Magnum. The action is smooth as glass.

[@tsmcl38]

And Mossberg is still in business!! 😁

[@thewatcher611]

8:42 I think you mean ejector? Anyway, I have an old 500 with the camo 24" ported turkey barrel. The butt pad is pretty much a brick. But, it's been a great gun. I have some nerve damage in my shooting hand, and the tang safety is about the only one I feel good using. I can't feel too much detail w the tip of my trigger finger, so trigger guard mounted safeties would need to be made the big race gun type.

[@archer721]

I’ve had both shotguns… I still have a Mossberg 500… there are so many thing’s available for it, is super simple and straightforward. 😎👍 - the issue with the trigger seems to hold true on mine also, but it lends itself to making a straight back pull of the trigger rather than a squeeze (if that makes any sense?) and being that I’m a big time Rifle shooter it makes perfect sense to my shooting instincts and until I saw this issue in this video, it never entered my mind.

[@barackmycat9448]

Out of curiosity I just checked trigger length on Mossy.410 500. It is a little long but ok for me. I have never heard this brought up before. Good review work guys!

[@johnelder9919]

Bought an 870 in 1990, have never had an issue with it. Bought a Tactical version in 2015. Don't care for the plastic furniture and the action is a little more rough than the older one, but it has had a couple of thousand rounds through it shooting clays. I like the solid feel of the 870 over the 500. I also prefer the safety mounted on the trigger guard like most of the riflrs I grew up shooting. Plus, you can shoulder the gun, dosengage the safety and fire without shifting your hand. The Mossberg you have to disengage the safety before shouldering it. Or break your grip and shift your hand.

[@dirtycommtroop]

I really wanted a Mossberg 500 in 20 gauge for upland. Unfortunately they are either sold out everywhere or are going for really high prices. I do have an 870 express magnum defense model that i bought back in 2010. So instead i ordered the field barrel and some parts to convert it to a traditional hunting shotgun. Money wise its the smarter thing to do.

[@wheneggsdrop1701]

Maybe some of the budget-budget shotguns like the maverick 88?

[@insatiable_mind]

The Maverick 88 is a Mossberg 500. Manufactured by Mossberg with some parts made in the US and some made in Mexico, lowering the price. The parts are interchangeable. The Maverick uses a blueing process that’s more prone to rust and it does not have a receiver that’s drilled and tapped for a scope mount. Older ones used a single rail pump action but newer ones have a dual rail pump like the Mossberg 500. I’m also not sure if the Maverick 88 comes with two barrels like the Mossberg 500 often does, if you want a hunting barrel and 18” barrel for home defense. You could always buy a short barrel later with a longer magazine if if you want both and money is tight right now.

[@wheneggsdrop1701]

@@insatiable_mind I know.

[@demetriusford4364]

Right my Remington 870 was $585

[@Original-Yellow]

Got a 97 winchester 1300. Hasnt let me down yet. Pull the trigger it goes boom and the forearm pulls super smooth. Still eyeballing getting a newer shinier shotgun.

[@ethanperks372]

As to the 870 sticking; mine was made in the early 70's. I had to go a while without shooting and stored the 870 with a generous lube of gun oil (NOT WD-40). When I took it out to clean for the range I could not open the action. Frozen tight! Had to remove the BBL to open the action!

[@jake9705]

On the Mossberg 500A, I believe that was an easily replaceable *ejector*, not an extractor, that screws into the left, interior side of the action. The Mossberg 500A has two extractors on its bolt, which is one more extractor than the Remington 870 has. Therefore the 500A is more reliable than the 870 in that regard. Another advantage of the Mossberg 500: because the receiver is aluminum, that is one less part of the gun you have to worry about rusting! The 870's steel receiver will need constant guarding against rust.

[@backfire]

You’re correct. We misspoke. It is the ejector. Good point on corrosion!

[@3wolfsdown702]

I love my 500 a model 18 inch barrel pistol grip the best home protection gun there is loaded with Buckshot of course

[@jimmyd4477]

@@backfire any advice on purchasing a shotgun for a beginner like what would be a descent shotgun for a limited budget that would be fairly easy to use?

[@windowofpane]

Dude fantastic point on the rust my police magnum after 3 days on the mountain would look like a layer of cinnamon was dumped over the whole gun, that's why I switched to the 590A1 and won't look back

[@jb008ny4]

Used good condition Remington 870E can be a solid choice - I've easily put many thousands of rounds through mine (circa. 1998 production) shooting skeet and never had a problem. Factory, reload, low recoil/light target loads everything works - never a problem going point-click-boom-shuck.

[@chevyon37s]

I have an 870 express mag from the early 2000’s and while not perfect I like it. Early on it had the sticky chamber issue, it rusts kind of easy, and the action was rough. But after a few thousand rounds, good cleaning, and some polishing it’s smooth and works great now. I MUCH prefer the Remington safety location, because for me it’s easier to flip. And I really like the way the Remington fits me over a mossberg.

[@evanwiltse6127]

Should do the Winchester SXP haven’t seen a lot of good reviews

[@LivinfreeinTennessee]

I can tell you the 1300 defender is not even close to being as reliable as the 500. Don’t know about the SXP.

[@israelnava6882]

Great series you guys 👍🏻

[@VikingBunni]

I got a 500 many years back as a duty long gun. I abused and still abuse it alot, but it never fails. Heck its the only pump action that is milspec. I bought it in the JIC pistol grip variant, but its easy to change out stocks and barrels it just takes 1 allen head.

[@backfire]

I’m wishing I hadn’t bought the flex model. Like you said, the parts are easy enough to change in the standard model and the flex parts have been much harder to get lately.

[@VikingBunni]

@@backfire i thought you could remove the quick exchanger with an allen key as well. Its not a different reciever it just a 1" bolt on quick exchange lug.

[@VikingBunni]

@@backfire kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqfEh6Claq-Yj9k just do this in reverse.

[@frankieramirez4791]

I have the 870 super mag from the 90s, love the gun. Can't stand the 500 Just feel so cheap, feels like im gonna break it

[@deathendings6313]

I have broke my 500. Never broke my 870.

[@anthonyrichardson7543]

I have the Maverick 88 and average sized hands. No issues with trigger access.

[@kdcustoms1272]

i think maybe it just the version they mention, my hands are kind of small but I've never even thought about it on my mave 88 or my moss 500.. the 500 is about 25 years old.

[@silbannacusofoxyrhynchus6096]

It’s the “flex” that has the problem

[@asagrimmr1459]

My 870 had that problem with sticking. I replaced the extractor and everything was fine. Never had a problem since then

[@blueduck9409]

I had them both. Wait, is the Mossberg model 88 maveric the same as the 500? Anyway, both of them were well made, functioning shot guns. I think i lean more toward the Remington 870. Stellar reputation, common availability of parts and up grades. If i had to pick one, id go with the 870 express magnum.

[@cantucando1593]

I bought an 870 two years ago for $306 at field&stream and love that rough look to it but it does exactly that. Fails to extract so I'll be upgrading the extractor and try to polish the barrel. If it works man it will be a beauty!

[@gloppy101]

Fails to extract? Dude, you are short shucking it.

[@athappyhiker]

My 500 is the same way with the grip being a tad too long for the trigger reach and mine is the standard wood stocked field model.

[@rickyshultz2051]

Mossberg all the way ! One for hunting , one for defense , all the same controls !

[@andrewgrignon826]

Got a question.. I'm right handed, I'm missing my index, half half of middle finger, half my pinky but all of my ring finger.. I've never fired a gun but want to purchase one for home defense.. my buddy recommended either the Remington 870 or the Mosburg 510.. which one would be the easiest to fire with my half of middle finger? Any help would be greatly appreciate

[@maryrenna1061]

The mid bead is something a lot of trap shooters use because in trap every thing is consistence so you can aligning the house the exact same way

[@Icybones000]

Guess its the luck of the draw, I live in humid Florida where you feel the moisture on you as soon as you walk outside, no rust issues yet on my 870. But who knows and I doubt they may put any additives in their coating depending on where the firearm is being sold at to prevent rust. But Florida is a good place to test to see how well your finish will hold up with any firearm.

[@michaelneelin1847]

You guys aren't kidding about availability being so low on shotguns right now since the pandemic started. I was trying to buy one since last year and they were all sold out. It makes sense to me a lot of people are rushing to get them because in most states you don't need a permit, so you just have to pass a quick background screen. Hunting license applications have went up exponentially, and people are also looking for an entry level gun for home defense. Anyways, I was looking at 870s and the 500 for their price point and reliability. Both are a great choice but I went with the 500 because of everyones repeated reviews of the 870's jamming and the 500's quicker reload. If I were to get a Remington 870 I would probably invest in some upgrades and the end product might be better than the 500, but I tend to want something functional right out of the box.