REN, KNOX HILL, KING DOTTA DISS REACTION

[@AnthonyRay]

Props to Dotta and Knox for giving us this content to check out. Make sure to check out their channels. Knox is the homie, but I want to approach this with a neutral perspective. Let's wait for Ren's response to see where this goes.

[@DOTTAisKING]

Highly respect you for not being bias, I really just wanna give people a dope show 💯

[@Hexenkind1]

🙏

[@LazyGrey]

Love the way you broke this down and stayed as neutral as possible🙂 Respect💯

[@survivalrush]

@@DOTTAisKING I'm unashamedly a Ren fan, and believe his pen game is at a top level, however I highly respect that reply you made about wanting to give a dope show. That's a cool perspective, and is a good outlook to proceed with and to raise your fanbase. I've listened to Rap since the 80's, but never really experienced the battle side before only through listening to the odd mixtape, though I've actually learnt a lot about diss battles through this whole affair, and it's primarily not malicious like it first seems (obviously, like any competitive arena, some can go there), it's almost like any sporting event, a competition in it's concept. Anyhow, Good luck to you, bro, I really mean that 👍🏻

[@caro.k2958]

I really hope REN just ignores this whole thing he’s so far above this there is no need for him to respond. So why give it the time of day 🤷🏻‍♀️ 😂❤

[@KnoxHill]

Ay man, appreciate the impartial approach and your analysis on both ends of the spectrum for this. Keep rocking on AR. Proud friend and supporter of you

[@Veeliscious]

Knox Rocks. End of 🤛

[@texasstateofmind744]

Knox is just getting warmed up. He’s a master MC with a library in his brain & insane flows to deliver that knowledge!

[@crook8468]

Dotta not bad but ren n knox dont need 10% to end this dude! The skill gap is mad! Dudw should be super gratefull for the L this is mgk level death.... i wonder if he can look good wit nail pollish playing punk? 😂😂😂😢

[@sera.84]

Ren and Knox do not even need 10% to beat the king clown Least Ren doesn’t need to worry about health care🤷🏻‍♀️ The kilo ren/ Kyle ren was weak He’s just copying em by saying he’s a king he’s a fucking jester 😂😂😂😂 Cliff notes used to be an old school website that you could look up any book or something and you get the short version or the ‘cliff notes’ a little research lol

[@skyaurora2112]

Knox is amazing, so much respect!

[@amandacollins2854]

I Dont think lil Dotti is going to get too many fans from this ,both Ren and Knox fans have become used to a quality and musicality this guy can only dream of . He is a plodder at best . 22:11

[@dginski7]

I'm fucking PUMPED for a Ren response!

[@sharondagostino3348]

Me to 🤭

[@clipzify9]

@@sharondagostino3348 its not gonna be anything crazy

[@silvergsming1574]

i dont think hes going to but at the same time itywould be great if it happened

[@JonNo86]

@@silvergsming1574 He posted on his IG stories of him creating the beat for his response today. He also posted "I'm looking forward to responding!"

[@dugan8786]

Ren is going to SNAP I cant fuking wait! You know Ren listened to Knox and saw how much Knox snapped on this and patiently waiting so he has to go even harder.

[@scottw5253]

Whales don't have gills. They're mammals so they have lungs. That's what made that bar weak AF to me. Whales being mammals is like 4th grade biology class info.

[@krae2635]

Thank you!! I was just about to write that too. Weak sauce

[@lea88pu]

🤣🤣🤣

[@gritz-blitz5364]

Right oh boy didn't do his homework that'll be something Ren Will catch and throw it right back at him

[@williamfulcher314]

I thought it was cus ren is from whales (uk) and his last name is gill

[@krae2635]

@@williamfulcher314 Those things are true, but when he tries to tie it all together with the double meaning of words, it wasn't clever due to the lack of knowledge on the respiratory systems of ocean residing mammals 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@ClearTheRubble7]

Gotta head to work, but I thought I'd say I saw Ren's community post and link to Dotta's track, and I also saw the anti-Dotta disses. My impression (maybe wrong) is that a lot of Renegades are being very protective of Ren, because he's our "sick boi" and must be protected. BUT--Ren is also smart and a lion, having faced the Lyme beast for eight or nine years and come out on top. Ren himself said that he's going to have fun with the whole battle thing. So I think we can expect some interesting twists and turns, in a rollercoaster kind of way. (But there's nothing for the Renegades to worry about.) Already there's a little bit of drama going on, and I'm stoked to see where it goes.

[@bevc5349]

I agree 💯

[@lynette.]

🇬🇧 Ren is British we battle in normal conversation. No worries for Ren feel pity for Dotta he has no idea.

[@margaretkichenama2040]

Renegade Army Ready to Ambush Opponents…….Take Cover😂

[@Veeliscious]

Agreed. Ren likes to challenge himself and push himself out of his comfort zone so he can "grow". I gave a taunting response re Dotta just as part of the playground really as I saw a comment from him that already showed this is really just showmanship so props to him for upping the number of people who now know his name for coming at some OG's - that's some mighty big balls Dotta's got!

[@lynette.]

@Veeliscious but with weak lines like Whales having gills, he hasn't got the skills to back himself ,however good he thinks his haymakers are he has a glass jaw,too easy.

[@salishseamermaid]

I'm completely new to hip hop/rap culture, having only landed here via Ren, and subsequently Knox, you, and a few others, so i appreciate your explanations. The whole thing seems like it's in good fun, although I can see how with the wrong people involved it could get ugly in a hurry. Ren talks about a rising tide lifting all ships, so I'm sure he'll be on board with this to give Dotta the boost he's after. (But i have to say, Dotta's style of rap is why I never dug beneath the surface of the genre.)

[@kazpwright]

Me too. And it’s this style of Knox and Ren that I’m starting to get an appreciation for it 😊

[@salishseamermaid]

@@kazpwright Ren is his very own genre. 😊

[@kazpwright]

@@salishseamermaid Indeed he is.

[@LDiamondz]

Dotta sounds like so many others, it's pretty stale. Nobody sounds like Ren, he updated it, made it better.

[@sera.84]

Knox is also someone to put on the playlist bro

[@silentwhisp4r670]

Dotta seems like he knows a lot about Ren. I guess he is a fan and decided to diss him just to milk off the hype of Ren?

[@yolandescheepers7262]

And don't forget, Ren fans can be brutal....😂

[@arbel7655]

Basically sounds like an ad for all of Ren's hits.

[@Italia6495]

He respects his craft.

[@mauraleib]

Again Anthony thanks for being the bigger man and trying to be impartial in all this. This seems like the next step in REN’s evolution as a serious rapper and of course he’ll be up for it 😂

[@lisamora8141]

Knox won that battle against Dotta hands down, Knox wiped the floor with Dotta in his response. Looking forward to Ren response.

[@deejayturtle]

i'M GIVE THIS ROUND TO KNOX.

[@Danny_R_]

Yea also when King Dotta say dumb shit like "Using Culture" then im like gtfoh! Also Knox's shit was just so much better imo.

[@JoseReyes-rj9zc]

Who cares? Both rappers are trash. Not my type of shit but to each their own.

[@Veeliscious]

It was a Knox Out🤛

[@deejayturtle]

@@Veeliscious I love a good pun.

[@noelward1367]

Thanks for the breakdown. It's really helpful for those of us outside the culture. I didn't get too much out of my first listen to Dotta's piece but now I know there is more to it than I thought. Looking forward to the Ren breakdown.

[@SamadSaVage]

It was me I am the guy who made the beat

[@texasstateofmind744]

Samad is a savage on the beats & pen

[@heatherhobbit2931]

So much respect! Thank you for honoring the culture and taking emotion out of it! This earned a sub!

[@sunshynff]

Not sure how this honors the culture, Ren has soooo much going on right now, mostly with his treatments, and I'm not saying the man can't handle it, he more than can. But being put in a spot where he could look weak if he doesn't make a response track, or look like a douche if he destroys him too heavily, to a rapper that Ren is clearly leaps n bounds out of his league, is like telling the NY Yankees, that if they don't play Ohio's all state little league champs, then they hate kids with cancer. or some shit like that, ya know. That is NOT hip-hop or rap culture.

[@heatherhobbit2931]

@@sunshynff um. So Ren challenged Dotta first. Their banter is out in the open for all to see. Diss tracks predate hip-hop, Muddy Waters and Koko Taylor had some beef back in the day. But hey, y'all should keep taking this ish so personally, acting like DOTTA and Ren are stepping into an actual ring or something. If you're truly a Ren fan, then do your research and get with the program. Unless Ren is secretly a bully, he wouldn't take on anyone he a) didn't see worthy; b) couldn't respect losing to; and c) he uplifts those he respects. Period. Ren and Knox BOTH literally built their very own careers on KZbin, just like the majority of these reactor/rappers. Slamming KING DOTTA for the same is futile. Yeah. Ren has had quite a heavy few years, don't you, as a fan, want to see him have some fun? He has a battling background. Ren asked KING DOTTA, publicly, not to drop the diss until after Murderer, DOTTA respected that. As for Knox. I've lost so much respect for him. He put out his diss track, calling out a long list of other yt rappers, none of them responded. Whether Knox meant to mention DOTTA or not, he's the one who slapped back. Freestyling and battling are the foundations of hip hop. Hell, house music started as a way for rappers to flow over beats, when not everyone had the equipment. Culture. When a white Welsh boh gets it more than those who revere him, well....🤷

[@heatherhobbit2931]

@@sunshynff Ren isn't a rap god. He's an incredibly talented artist. Absolutely. I'm a huge fan. Bug I've been a fan of hip-hop and rap since 84. Getting overly emo takes away from Ren, y'all don't even get that. Funny, Freckled Angels came out years ago. Not until Hi Ren, and unironically, reactors all over the world brought his numbers up, before you of I as followers. Y'all need to dance in the sunshine of some shit, loosen up. It's hip-hop, not wwe

[@sunshynff]

​@@heatherhobbit2931....I never said Ren was a rap god, and I've been into hip-hop heavy just as long if not longer, I was singing Run DMC, Curtis Blow, and The Sugar Hill Gang songs in the shower before the Beasties even hit the scene in ' 82. If you think Ren is emo, much less "overly" emo, I don't think you know what emo is, and I know emo and former emo folks that would be insulted by that analogy...lol. I know what you're referring to with eyeliner and trendy clothes or odd fashion choices he goes with sometimes. That's a little bit just U.K. style that folks from the U.S. sometimes find quirky (I'm assuming you're from the U.S. like me, I shouldn't assume, sorry, correct me if I'm wrong though). Mixed a little with Ren's I don't give a shit what people think attitude. As far as his debut album Freckled Angels, I'm aware of when it came out, while I hadn't discovered him yet at that time, I did start getting into his music and catalog before Hi Ren dropped, and "reactors brought his numbers up" So let set one thing to rest here ok. Yes of course, Hi Ren was a huge success with reactors and they went bat shit over it, because it also brought them huge numbers, do you see what I'm saying there? Of course reactors helped boost Ren's YT numbers, and he's been EXTREMELY grateful to them and shown love by doing interviews and promoting their channels and what not. But lets not get it twisted here, at the very root of Ren blowing up, is the song Hi Ren itself, and the years of brutal pain and psychological mind fuckery he endured to come out the other side and write a song like that. Before finding a career as firefighter/medic, I was in a band, and worked at a sound recording studio part time for years, and music, either making it or producing it for others has remained a hobby of mine. I have seen grown men and women, that are far better musicians than I could ever imagine, people that have intricate knowledge of music theory and at the same time, know what it takes to make a hip hop or rock song, worthy of street level respect by the masses, watch Hi Ren for the first time, not as a reactor, as me showing them, and tear up, or just be so frickin' blown away they can't speak for 5 min. As a paramedic and someone with ptsd, I have shown this video to a plethora of mental health professionals leaving them in tears and/or mouths agape and speechless. With both crowds stating that this song will be studied and dissected in music theory classes and psychology lectures for decades to come. So forgive me if I don't chalk up Ren's success to "just some reactors blowing his shit up" Now while I stated I never said Ren was a rap god, which is true, if you bothered delving into his catalog, he's not just "able to do songs in many genres", they are top tier level songs in each genre he chooses to do them in. On top of that, he has a special place in his heart above most genres in rap and hip hop with tracks that are fire, going back to debut album and all around then. I am not saying he is better or worse than any top main stream rapper out there, I don't like comparisons in the first place. I will tell you this, he is a true student of the genre, he is a true student of the English language, he intimately has studied the genre of all things hip hop, when it comes to making the music, he understands it inside out, the alliterations, how syllables relate to each other, he finds pockets where there is none....that kind of stuff, not to mention his ear for a great beat, which he makes himself! He honors the culture, by staying true to old school hip-hop music, just dressing the part of a hip hop head, DOES NOT honor the culture or make you a good artist. In fact I would argue that hip-hop culture would dictate the opposite, what's become known today as hip-hop "fashion" is just that, fashion bullshit. Hip-hop dictated nothing, it was about blazing your own trail, making beats you couldn't buy at the record store, because the DJ made them up on the fly at the club the night before, ya know. So you can judge your rappers on how emo they are or not, or how crunk, or dope or fly their outfit is, but I'll stick, with judging rappers I like, on their ability to stay true to their craft. And Dotta ain't figured that shit out yet, that is why Ren is out of his league.

[@sunshynff]

@@heatherhobbit2931 ...Well you apparently are not a true student of hip-hop then if you think the foundation of it was battle rapping. Freestyling yes, and that is the only thing that I know of that Ren challenged first, was to do a live freestyle battle, he did not "challenge" Dotta first, from what I've heard, but I wasn't following that from the beginning. Now I'll give you that battle rap sprung out of hip-hop culture, but it was not the catalyst for hip-hop. Like I said, in my last comment, hip-hop sprung from the ferocious appetite club goers had for the newest and latest beat to listen or dance to, then wanting something new the next week, and DJs starting to use two turn tables and mix beats themselves on the fly, then improvising lyrics, taking a page from the spoken word lyricist of the time shortly before them. I've forgotten more about music and hip-hop than you've ever learned or acquired, so I'm fine on doing my research, thanks anyway. Listen, you can play this who did this or that first, or use the same ol tired line, "you just hatin' on so-n-so because you're on the other guy's tip" NO! I don't do that, and I went to Dotta's page before I listened to a single Dis in any of those involved right now, and I spent almost two hours giving his catalog a very serious fair listen. And one of my earlier responses directly to DOTTA, not behind his back or some shit, I said my peace and didn't think he was in Ren's league, I did say that I thought he had a lot of untapped potential and talent, but that seeking out beefs and battle raps, IMO, weren't working out for him, but did truly wish him all the success he seeks. Also just since you got this wrong too, if you wanna talk about the history of battle rap, it was face to face freestyle, that's how it started, and they shook hands afterwards like gentlemen, even if they refused to, they still looked each other in the eye out of respect. The modern day dis track sprung from REAL BEEFS artists had with each other, real anger, real spite, real insults. Dis tracks were not friendly or respectful or meant to be fun, they were meant to be insulting and put the other person in their place. If DOTTA can't handle the heat, get out the kitchen, and If you can't admit that last part about dis tracks is a fact, or If you think a mid level rapper at best, combing youtube for popping artist to create a beef with from behind their keyboards in order to get clicks is staying true to the culture of hip-hop, then you need to be stripped of your hip-hop head credentials.

[@alloralou4722]

Ren’s response was great. He’s always so true to himself and that’s just one of many qualities that I like so much. Thanks for the reactions, I see how fun this is. I hope people don’t take it too seriously.

[@stevemisog]

The problem with Star Wars now is that it's not Star Wars anymore, it's Disney. The same applies to Marvel. They have both become mass produced shit. No storyline just money making machinations.

[@AnthonyRay]

Agreed. I even see this in anime like Dragon Ball and Naruto. It's gotten bland.

[@SuperMunkeh]

Agreed, though Andor was possibly the best Star Wars has been since Empire. They actually allowed the creator some freedom.

[@GoodGirlGone]

Dotta did 2 disses one for Knox.. which is Knox’s reply and then one for Ren.. and Ren is working on a reply..

[@bevc5349]

Brilliant breakdown Anthony! Loved this vid and have subbed. ❤

[@Chris-dp2jj]

This might be Knox's break. The entire scene of reactors, and those who watch, are paying attention. Good for him. Dotta far from bad, i actually liked his, but knox... next level.

[@susiejo143]

Dottas flow is kinda boring🤷‍♀️ And he needs an inhaler

[@joshmartin9222]

Glad you didn’t give up on these reactions like you mentioned before the Murderer reaction. You’re great at reactions but you spit with the best too.

[@pandashoots]

Dude.. totally appreciated your angle on it coz before this vid, I had no Idea what was going on soo.. thanks mate!

[@lynette.]

Love Knox's sense of humour I dont think Dotta knew that Knox battled a way back.

[@francesdoll4039]

Got a snippet of Ren's beat he is cooking up for Dotta last night on instagram

[@bosbornefischer]

This was great, and I think you did a good job to many fans who are new to hip hop culture and have a lot to learn to appreciate about it.

[@mcguigance]

Ren is cooking and is cooking it good.

[@JMach82]

I’m a huge Ren fan. Can’t wait for the response! Have to admit this was pretty fire though

[@slayerrocks2]

Was this recorded over a prison phone?

[@SuperMunkeh]

Battle rap is definitely fun - I think the folks who are emotional about this probably aren't rap fans and don't understand it's part of the culture. I gotta say - Dotta's Ren diss was pretty light. He can rap, but I don't know. There were a few lines, but it was more like love taps to me. I liked the chalk outlines bar. Knox really zipped him up tbh. Ren will need to dig him up to battle him.

[@crunch8484]

Yup. You can tell Dotta actually has massive respect for Ren, and calling him out on this diss is his way of showing it. I can’t wait to hear how Ren responds. I expect it will be something special.

[@mrsmith6674ify]

I think this beef allowed Knox to stretch his legs and gave him focus. Some of his best comes out in his response. I can't argue there was some skill applied by King Dotta but Ren's music is so deep and technical it's like a guy with a sword using skills to attack a tank. Good review. Thanks for your breakdown

[@Veeliscious]

Good analogy

[@mattslade1633]

He's another ship on the ever rising tide of Ren

[@dannyhigdon666]

The "medic" line was a reference to Ren's "Illest" track. He says "Call a medic for myself".

[@TheDevTony]

Is this a diss track? It's almost a tribute. Compared to disses we have in the uk there is nothing offensive here, or anything that meaning fully disses him. One of the most hollow disses I've heard in a long while xD

[@sian5882]

Patiently waiting for "Patiently Waiting".... 🙏🔥🔥🔥

[@melissawinstead8848]

Well. As far as I'm concerned I don't care that boys want to be boys. (As long as no one gets hurt) Knox and Ren are just gonna play some mouse trap. A nice friendly game I presume!😂I'm all in for Knox and Ren! Peace and love always until there is no more!😊❤

[@dawnblaynee7983]

Wait..... Whales are mammals, they have lungs not gills. Ren you need to point that out and bury this guy On a Regulate sample. Much love and respect from The UK.

[@hobbychameleon1024]

I think this every time I hear it

[@dawnblaynee7983]

@@hobbychameleon1024 by that comment I'm guessing you enjoy reaction videos a fair bit 👍😀

[@TehZombish]

Alright, I gotta say... that You a little puppy bar was pretty good. That's a Ren and Stimpy callback. Ren is an albino chihuahua, Stimpy is a cat. So, Dotta likes his cartoons.

[@AnthonyRay]

Oh didn't catch that. Good one

[@janegill8990]

He also says he's a sick little puppy in illest of our time.

[@TehZombish]

@@janegill8990 you're totally right. Well maybe I gave dotta too much credit... Either way. One of the better "bars"

[@Chegirl]

I think The “Cliffs notes” that Knox refers to in the Killshot remix are the student study guides to accompany literary texts or school subjects . Not Cliff Beats.

[@sherribrock2726]

I think it could be another double entendre.

[@texasstateofmind744]

Knox & Cliff are buddies. Watch Cliff’s breakdown & he confirms it

[@antikathy]

For. The. Culture. Yes. All hail the joy of the diss track, the intricate linguistic and rhythmic puzzles that push the genre forward. Rappers, raise each other up on each other's shoulders and diss each other all the way to the top.#fortheculture #disstrack

[@Snarky_Tart]

I don't have an issue with battles. But, dude, this is like a flyweight boxer who believes he can go 3 rounds in the heavyweight division. It's not entertaining, and there's a legitimate reason why it's illegal. When an aspiring rapper can spell Fibonacci sequence, define it, and work it into a rhyme scheme, then they can challenge Ren or Knox, and make it entertaining. Until then, read more books, and remember to change the batteries in your smoke detector.

[@lynette.]

Knox mentioned a boogieman and Dotta spoke to Michelle and they created all this out of thin air. Mentioned the usual white rappers and Eminem.

[@Parula06]

Dotta: some good rhyming. Certainly impassioned. Sounds like he has COPD or something. Wish he would change his flow on occasion, mix it up a bit. And I'm not remotely a kid, but dynamics matter. Knox: YOWCH! Would not want to be on the receiving end of this. Poor Dotta, I feel bad for him. This is great fun!

[@CasanovaCuts]

Yooo starting off the video with East Flatbush-tried by 12 in the background !!!

[@AnthonyRay]

You know. That good ish

[@CasanovaCuts]

@@AnthonyRay respect fam!

[@brelandbeck9121]

The Eminem skit you were thinking of was aimed at Insane Clown Posse. Icp had a few about eminem and Dre and Em had a few of those skits aimed at them

[@AnthonyRay]

Yes!

[@brelandbeck9121]

​@@AnthonyRayStill one of my favorite beefs since nobody really lost or won and Proof himself squashed the beef. Led to a Psychiatrist Records VS D12 friendly bowling match haha

[@consentofthegoverned5145]

Ren's response is dissing with love. He owned kIng deeply and permanently! Hell, I even bought flowers for the fallen king.

[@corinnelabita]

I appreciate your tempered approach to this- giving Dotta his props. I find his music boring, and I still appreciate that this is creating lots of creativity and pushing everyone to do something interesting

[@Hexenkind1]

The remix was made by SamadSaVage. Knox pinned him in the comments.

[@deliciousficticious3150]

Audibly I love the Knox one. We also have to remember Ren is a hip hop student so he knows the battle rap score. I bet he's loving writing his response and I cant wait to hear it. Cheers AR

[@DaveSlaz]

HAHA - Whale's (Wales ref to Ren's birth place) Don't have gills !, Crap shoddy references, Dotta is a numpty x

[@Av3rageD4D]

I’m here for it!! Looks like a lot of fun, and funny as hell that Cliff is thrown into everything (must be cause he’s a great guy 🙂!) Much love and have a great day Anthony!

[@LeeannG]

Poor cliff, I was dying 😂

[@Chris-dp2jj]

cliff seems like a really good dude.

[@lynette.]

Or because they know he contractually is unable to reply.

[@jkoll42]

Dotta my man - good attempt at the double punchline with Wales/Whales but Whales have lungs not gills.

[@InsomniacsRaine]

Dotta had some great bars, but he made me feel like he was out of breath, and his beat wasn't pleasing to my ears. Enjoyed Knox's delivery. Waiting for Ren.

[@sicpuppy9500]

Hell yea, It takes some skill to rhyme the word Dog with Dog 🤔

[@aimeekeel]

People need to realize it's part of the culture of hip-hop. Don't take it seriously. It's as much about respect as anything else.

[@vmo4136]

The skit you were trying to remember was the Ken Kaniff ICP diss.

[@ckronenwetter]

Best point, and the main thing to remember, battle rap is fun

[@restlessoblivion]

He might have also meant "you missed your shot" in the sense of Dotta coming at Knox with the dis track

[@berniewatts5028]

I love what you’re saying Anthony. The disses are part of the culture. But also trying to teach people to be fair. It’s entertaining that’s it, but I’m an old great grandma, so it doesn’t influence me. You Avengers are amazing. Thanks for your opinion. We’ll see if Ren replies, I guess we’ll stay tuned. ❤️❤️Great Grandma 👵🏼

[@patcow9999]

I really enjoyed this review of the 2 "Diss" raps! From my perspective, I loved how Knox used the Stan stalker persona to deliver his diss, clever! I'm coming from an angle of only seeing battles in 8 Mile and The Voice! That is, zero expertise. I get your 50 Cents story, it truly is the game! The Money Game if you will. In non-music arena's, we see it in boxing re-matches. Even in my comfort zone music genres, UK had Blur v Oasis spat, turned out a win win for both bands. You could loosely say the same for Neil Young's Southern Man, answered by Lynyrd Skynyrd's second verse of Sweet Home Alabama dissing Neil for having the temerity to expose America's deep south links to slavery. BTW I get your "fence sitting" awaiting a Ren response, should it come!

[@darlaharrelson6487]

Knox Hill was speaking through Dotta. So that’s why Knox didn’t go off on him. Saying basically he didn’t have the skill lol. I don’t think I can wait to long to see what Knox is going to pen. One thing about Knox he’s VERY intelligent. He did just like you said. I’m dying to hear Ren now. 😅

[@joguipo]

The puppy thing is a reference to Illest

[@onnadonovan8228]

Appreciate your neutral analytics on this.

[@simonpalmer8718]

The back track is called "Toms Diner" by Susan Vega

[@kristinekarlson113]

Folks, I recognize some of those bars from a Flight of the Conchords comedic faux rap battle. I’m ready to call “use of Chat GPT” by Dotter-king.

[@Ginaarceci]

Like Ren said in Knox's comment section "how do you kill a dead man"? Asking for a friend 😂😂😂😂 knox buried him, resurrected him, and buried him again.

[@Danielle-ed9kt]

I am 100 percent ren fan but I love this track and the diss’ shows how much this guy studied RENs work and life and it’s good. Rap battles is part of the rap game I think ren likes it some of the fans are taking it to heart

[@ray_tupper]

Agreed.

[@wimvankeeken]

Every day you record … Iz a relaxed day for us bratahhhhh🙌

[@JaMbizard]

I can see "I'm the King, you're my Daughter" or something similar being in Rens track.

[@ricksurratt9034]

Brother, ask your mother what my name is!

[@thehangingparsiple5692]

Definitely his toblerbone is going to pop up

[@missgnomer9232]

Great breakdown thank you - just got distracted by your own music playing over Knox’s at the end there…

[@noggyplays2822]

I can't wait to see your reaction to Knoxs new diss. XD

[@seagull01-cp8pb]

I don’t know one seemed cruel and the other seemed clever. I let you decide which was which. Thanks for reviewing this. It’s all so exciting for us newbies.👍💕🦇

[@sistermoon1970]

Thank you so much for this unbias reaction. Respect. I have been loving this battle and the build up. It’s fun and exciting. I thought Dotta went a bit gentle on Ren but clearly I missed a lot, so this really helped to form a more educated opinion 🫶

[@Joshw264]

Not sure if it’s been clarified yet but in the beginning he is on Michelleshow ad libs say “I can’t breath Eugene”

[@celinel9750]

Thank you for breaking this all down, I'm not into rap or hip-hop culture so I defetly apreciate your neutral way of explaining all the bar. I'm defently a Ren fan and I'll be plz to listen to his response, not only can he rap but his level of knowledhe and literature is way over the top... might be some line that the Dotta won't understand ...

[@Hayzelle]

Dotta’s line about haymakers being slower that jabs would’ve been fire if any of the previous bars had actually been haymakers. They weren’t.

[@scottrettig5608]

sad part is whales don't have gills

[@no54atu]

Why would anyone diss a beautiful being like Ren, it could only be to sponge off these great artists.

[@ChrisLawton66]

Diss tracks and battle raps are a part of hip-hop culture. Ren is likely thrilled. After all he told Justin Hawkins he wanted a nemesis.

[@brianbritton3693]

Ren did a pre-emptive strike by travelling back in time a year for Murderer and figuring Dotta would come at him and doing the double on the bar get your daughter/Dotta to eat it like a Toblerone bitch lol.

[@Snarky_Tart]

Ren, a time traveller, reading an HG Wells book while simultaneously writing a double about King Daughter 😂

[@brianbritton3693]

@@Snarky_Tart haha facts ! Im just trying to figure where dotta appears in some Orwell stuff, Napoleon the pig sitting at his farm ?

[@Snarky_Tart]

@@brianbritton3693 😂

[@jenifermorgan7328]

Dotta- fairly decent rap diss. Knox-left Dotta in the burn ward. Ren-no response yet but we already know how vicous he can be to himself. All 3 are getting extra time out of this, with Knox getting some new respect for sure.

[@karencallaway1332]

This really helped a lot. I am biased as Ren and Knox are my faves. But i am open to listen to others. Dotta isn't for me, however i am all for the creative aspect this is bringing. I hope they are having fun with it and KD gets what he needs from it. Reminds me of Eminem in the early days

[@queenanastasha]

Early gang ❤️‍🔥

[@RickStonex]

Knox burned him soo good lol .. but it a good hearted battle beef ...... Maybe ha ha ha

[@christyheffernan1248]

We are waiting for #Ren. Im a know & REN fan but appreciate your views. Thx for posting

[@christyheffernan1248]

Sorty typo. Knox

[@candice3559]

WOW this dudes so talented and creative. 😂 😂

[@craiggrant8600]

Think that eminem skit was called Ken Kenneth or something like that

[@yeamagicc]

You hit it right on the nose tho I LOVE battle rap Idk who king dotta is but after I heard Knox's track I had to do some research and BUDDY'S NOT BADD. Im really excited to see where this shii goes and I hope the best for everyone involved

[@BoydOfPray]

I dont think the hospital flashbacks are about Ren's music videos, so much as a direct jab at Ren's life. If you didnt know, Ren is actively getting treatment for years of misdiagnosed diseases. Seems like a pretty low blow but that's rap I guess. I just want to know why he has beef with someone like Ren though. I mean what did he do? Ren just out here daily making people's lives better. 🤷‍♂️

[@BoydOfPray]

Ok I just saw the part where you said it ain't serious and it's just banter between rappers. I can accept that.

[@travisfuesler2285]

I can't find this song

[@raidenarashikage]

Which one? Dotta or Knox?

[@1DJTheMessenger]

Rap beefs have been tired and cliche for like twenty+ years. That said @KnoxHill is levels higher than this other dude. Also, wtf does Ren have to do with all this?

[@DaveSlaz]

Dotta needing some Ren hype by the looks of it 😂

[@laronabernathy9701]

Knox needs to be arrested for manslaughter. 😂 🔥

[@cynicalrecidivist2026]

I thought the beginning of Knox's song is referring to another reactor. I believe the name was mentioned during the...er..act

[@Proph3cy]

Knox released a new one today .

[@NixyRose72]

Couldn't get into Dotta's (never heard of him before so whatever) rap. Just the rythym feels weirdly awkward to me. I'm not much into the slow rap and he sounds like he's struggling to breathe and shoehorn relevant song titles in. Just not anything I'd ever put on a Playlist for sure. Ren and Knox now, they got that bounce and speed. It moves ya feet. Dotta's plods along like cement shoes in mud. He seems like he could be better if he tried and maybe practiced some more. A LOT more practice to get anywhere near their level. Can't wait to hear Ren's response. It's bound to be something special. I know rap battles are just culture and nothing personal, but usually there's at least two of close talent and i just don't think Dotta is bringing enough to the table. Just my opinion, and everybody's got their own. 😊

[@robmarar]

I can't wait to hear how Ren will end this 3 way battle with a hard Period on diss DOT DOT DOTTA 🤣

[@joannewilson2395]

I think Ren's video was him mixing Money Game 3 because I know it has strings in it.

[@christopherf2189]

Yeah, not feeling King Dotta flow.. Not riding the beat.. Like Anthony said, sounds more like battle than lyrical..

[@Shiroar]

Sounds more like he is trying to fight the beat and force his lyrics onto it. Mostly I just find the guy’s flow and cadence boring.

[@carmenhuyser808]

It would be epic to see the avengers in a podcast collaboration

[@pandashoots]

I cant sway from Ren and Knox,Elove the guys but first time hearing Dotta and honestly I like his old school flow, reminds me of what I grew up with, im 42 now! still Ren... I cant wait for his reply mans intellectually brutal!

[@thehangingparsiple5692]

I thought it was sound. Kind of got away from him a little towards the end though, but I enjoyed it, and the word play clever. KUDOS 🙏