Ren - KUJO BEAT DOWN | Psychology Reaction

[@DaisyKmua]

This is Ren taking his earrings off 😁

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

Haha yes!!

[@phylbrey1121]

his rings too… THIS time

[@staceyjayneplatt9527]

This is like taking Slim shady from Eminem and that’s Kujo taking Sick Boi from Ren ❤🙏🇬🇧🇺🇸

[@ahem27]

Watching this, I remembered what Ren said in his 1 Million sub video: “If you’re watching this and there’s a knot tied up in your stomach with bitterness, anger, or hatred for your fellow human being, be with it. Feel it. Understand it. Express it, and then let it go.” I saw this song as Ren practicing what he preached. He vented (artistically via fiction), now he can let it go and move forward.

[@JulieAiken]

I love this! And I'm annoyed that I didn't catch it myself.LOL

[@markwoodhead3551]

Yeah that was a good catch, I think you nailed it

[@Little_Alien_Lost]

@@ahem27 ~ Very well said! I agree with you, completely. 💐

[@Lou-xq9br]

💯

[@WitsEndGirl]

my take about the choir is that it represents the bulgarian choir witnessing Ren's response to finding out he was sold something stolen from them.

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

very good point!!

[@BellalunaGames]

Someone said it represents Ren’s team

[@jamesh2401]

Yeah it's absolutely that, they even drop dead on the line he says about how he makes his own stuff legally - referencing the legal issue of Kujo using the sample.

[@Sylfa]

Not only that, but the choir has been "bled" and lost out on this whole situation as well. Hence the slaughtered choir.

[@Mentalelffishing]

Is literally is the original artists the sample was stolen from

[@cathywethington5913]

I think this is cathartic for us fans, too. I've watched it five times already and cheered all the way through. Art is the healthiest way to vent

[@michaellavella2377]

For sure! So many fans are missing Sick Boi. It was important to many people, so they are also frustrated and upset. If you're a fan of someone you don't like seeing them in pain or going through struggle. So it feels good to see him let loose and say the things we want to say.

[@josephdaughtry1371]

Agreed.

[@joreilly3354]

Nothing uncomfortable about witnessing righteous rage channeled through creative catharsis ❤

[@DocHogan]

"A harmless man is not a good man. A good man is a very, very dangerous man who has that under voluntary control."

[@finnmccool6613]

JBP club

[@DocHogan]

@@finnmccool6613 kinda. Not a fan, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[@Little_Alien_Lost]

@DocHogan ~ Perfectly said. I feel like I always knew that Ren would be terrifying when angered. Someone who so clearly works hard to walk the right path is capable of darkness the likes of which most people never give them credit for keeping under wraps. Kujo should be extremely thankful that Ren has found an outlet to channel his anger through and that he chooses to use it.

[@Whitewolf1827]

Thats exactly why i feel like hes my brother im exactly like him

[@brooketomblin7897]

A sick Boi, is a good man with potentially dangerous tendencies.

[@Little_Alien_Lost]

I don't think people were as ready as they thought, for Ren's shadow self to speak with his full chest. Scared the sh*t out of me and I already know how it works. I knew going into this that he was going to vent but, I saw a kind of rage that I recognize and I didn't expect him to let people see it. I am super proud of him for doing it, though. We are not just one thing. The kindest people can be the most deadly when they need to be. Ren has been tested and he needed to draw a line that no one will dare to cross again. Congratulations to Kujo. He's immortal now, the dumbass. The first real villain in the Reniverse. Hope it was worth it. No one will ever forget. 😂

[@dontcarebear4455]

So true Little_Alien. I love Ren's honesty even when it's brutal. I also like the idea of Kujo now being an immortal dumbass😁

[@Little_Alien_Lost]

@@dontcarebear4455 ~ Single worst business decision in the history of independent music is to turn down guaranteed future work with an artist on a meteoric rise in his career. He's officially the biggest dumbass in history. History lives forever. Music lives forever. Hence, immortal dumbass. 🤣

[@Little_Alien_Lost]

@@dontcarebear4455 ~ His name will never be spoken without this shame attached to it. Music lives forever...and more than 1M views in a weekend. This will always be a legendary weekend in the history of Ren's body of work.

[@katilynnsteele2627]

People looking up kujo beat will see this song first before seeing information on the actual person. People have tested this 😂

[@sprinvntrdd]

People are hungry for Justice in this day and age, and they know the old society is broken. The court system is currupt. Lawyers usually represent only Admiralty Law of commerce, law of the sea. As opposed to Common Law, moral law, or law of the land. So, if people loose their moral compass and go after people for a quick buck, using lawyers, media company hidden clauses, industry grifts to take from creative people who just want to contribute to culture. Then, a genius type like Ren takes it back to "common law" and uses the court of public opinion to judge the matter. He created one piece "Sick Boi" from the bottom of his souls anguish and was rewarded with money, for his artestry. Then comes a greedy couple plus a greedy lawyer and get unreasonable. So, Ren did the absolutely right thing: self-defence on the "land", in the "street", where the ancient cults gaming of us, commoditizing everything, got hoisted by their own pattard. Ren got millions of views on "Kujo Beat Down" in a blink of an eye. Prooving that he was the better man, having extended an olive branch with his "collaboration solution proposal", which was rejected. Now, Kujo and company are forced to eat crow, settle for nothing, and watch the master of dark wit make money without them. Justice is served! Case closed. It can't go further because all the information is out in public, and the people decided. Not old babalonian cult judges still trying to game us for profit. That's what it is! I fully agree with you for the reasons above. He gamed the whole system.

[@kerrydevine8630]

Ren’s dark side finds his role here, rather than turning inward against his light side, it finds purpose in protecting all sides of Ren by lashing out at an external threat. Brilliant

[@serendipity1237]

Which actually reinforces the message of “Hi Ren”. So many misinterpret that song as being about “good” Ren meeting “bad” Ren… …when in fact, the point was the pendulum….the give and take of the dark and light learning to dance together.

[@kerrydevine8630]

@@serendipity1237Bada Bing!

[@sherrieshaver848]

Agreed

[@sherrieshaver848]

Better in a song so true

[@sherrieshaver848]

I wished I would have bought the CD instead of the streaming rights to that album then I'd still have it

[@joshuacraig6447]

I mean, even Jesus threw some tables...

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

hahahha! YES!!! touché

[@Emilie-one]

Ha! I love this comment

[@raymondduncil5786]

This !!!! Love ya man😂🎉

[@markwilson7013]

True, though 'turn the other cheek' and 'an eye for an eye...' are not opposing positions, mainly because an eye for an eye is probably one of the most misquoted sayings from the Bible, as I believe the full quote is 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth solves nothing'! Conveniently, people miss off the 'solves nothing' part, presumably so they can say they have a God-given right to retaliate... which even given my limited knowledge of the Bible seems an odd thing for it to say 🤔😅

[@christiang208]

​@@markwilson7013 To my knowledge no, a lot of the old testament law is built on it, even thou there are passages wher you can offer money instead. "nd a man who injures his countryman - as he has done, so it shall be done to him [namely,] fracture under/for fracture, eye under/for eye, tooth under/for tooth. Just as another person has received injury from him, so it will be given to him." (Lev. 24:19-21)." in Mathew he argues against this wich is more what you probably are refering to.

[@MegsD79]

This was amazing and I'm so proud of Ren! This isn't just a message to 2 people, this is a warning to anyone that thinks they can take advantage of Ren because he's so humble and kind and generous. 💙💙💙🔥🔥🔥

[@daminox]

I like the relationship ren has with the reactor community. He's smart and he isn't afraid of critique!

[@panchomcsporran2083]

Watched Ren's insta, he's back to the sweetheart we all know and love, throwing olive branches, he admitted he was angry when he wrote this, but he's got it out his system🎉

[@Deadman7782]

The choir in the background. Nod to the bulgarian choir who he stole the beat sample off. Chef's kiss..

[@miguelhontecillas2531]

I think he should get them to sing in the remake

[@oopsdidItypethatoutloud]

Aye, I've posted the same on another video, but understandably, most comments get lost in the mass. So I'm glad I found someone posting the same because we have a chance to highlight it, and maybe the message will get back to Ren. ❤ from Northeast England ❤️

[@phil1500]

@@oopsdidItypethatoutloud it'd be a good look for them, they are caught in a bit of crossfire here with a bit of ambiguity on how hard they are specifically going after Ren over Kujo for the stolen sample. Obviously they can make a lot more money that way, but the justice of it would be a normal agreement they'd have with a beatstar artist over what they'd take from ren post-popularity (which the law would let them claim for the theft). I'd like to see them come out conclusively on the right side of the situation and grouping up can help them remake that money in a more honorable way, but my guess is the ongoing conflict may prevent that.

[@oopsdidItypethatoutloud]

I meant to add... As you said... He could ask one to make a tune similar, and there is no way this guy can claim he stole a sound or structure as it's how these choirs sound. But I don't know how the industry works, so that might make no difference

[@oopsdidItypethatoutloud]

I wonder if he knows. Maybe Rosalie could get get a message to him and check

[@SunshineSolice]

Haha he said this isn’t no Dotta Diss😂😂😂😂 He let out the beast with this one! And IM LOVING IT!! Never mistake niceness for weakness ! He will always have the best heart, as well as the best mind for artistic creativity!!! This is just a reminder that he is human with raw human emotions! I love that he uses his music as an additional form of therapy in ALL aspects lol ! He “ felt like he needed to let it out some how” and honeyyyyyy he did! 💛🐷🌻🤗 #Renagade

[@Mariomatters1984]

It's better to be a worrier in a garden than a gardener in a war. Ren is only nice because he has the capability to do harm but chooses not to. Here's the proof that he has the capability.

[@esmepoms]

Even Jesus flipped tables when pushed too far.

[@MrGhostTube]

I have to say that I never thought of Ren as 'nice'. Tbh 'nice' is a pejorative in my head. 😂

[@thumper1273]

@@MrGhostTubeconcur! I prefer the term righteous (not self righteous) rather than the term nice😂 Nice is a southern person saying bless your heart😂

[@Mariomatters1984]

@@MrGhostTube replace nice with good, or any other descriptive that best suits his positive personality... The analogy still holds. You can only be good if you have the capability to do evil and choose not to.

[@debrashrider4062]

​@@esmepoms Same thought popped into my brain. Wasnt Jesus also attacking Greedy Money Changers at Temple?

[@NicoleymiHere1111]

IMO this is a great example of artistic healthy emotional processing. He released all the stress & negative emotions in a brutal but effective beautiful gush. It’s these emotions/feelings if we don’t process & release cause illness & dis-ease.

[@zennonapieronn3734]

Exactly my thoughts. We all know Ren is a very gentle, humble and kind human being. And he was to them as well, and they chipped him down bit by bit. Most of us would break into rage sooner, but he tried to be kind to them, help them. But they crossed the line, even for Ren, and that's not an easy feat to achieve. And what did he do? He made music. Yes, brutal, savage, raw rage. And he got it out artistically, and he is done with it. I was honestly shocked by the sheer brutality, but he said it himself, he needed to get it out, so he got it out somehow. Being aggressive is not good, holding it in is not good. Both extremes are unhealty. And getting rid of frustration artistically and creatively is one of the healthiest ways I can think of. Yes, it is brutal, yes, I feel both good and bad when I hear it, and there will be people who will take it as a call to arms to spit hate. But vast majority of Ren's fans are going to just say "nice beat, stay strong" and that's it. And for someone who has violence in his songs, it speaks volumes to attract such a fanbase. Ren is one of the nicest person I know, his fanbase is nice as well, he is a good example for us. And this is a good example as well. Be kind, but don't let people take advantage of your kindness. And be true to your principles. As he said, this song is angry, but I don't think that his fanbase will now go after Kujo. We move on, waiting for Sick Boi to be reborn. And I think Ren gave them a pretty good spanking in the song, I think that's more than enough for them, no need to go any further. (And I sincerely hope that they themselves won't go any further, nobody wants part two, they tried, they lied, they played the money game and they lost, now let bygones be bygones and move on.)

[@jorice5528]

👍🏻 yes 💯

[@REN4eva]

Here is my take on this song. Ren again shows how we should deal with emotions, in this case righteous anger. Just like in Hi Ren, he has an inner dialogue, which shows his thinking when dealing with this situation. For a long time he maintained his positive attitude that everything would be resolved in a way that both could be satisfied with. So many olive branches he offered to no avail. In the process, his frustration and anger naturally grew and thus also the dark side of his personality. But notice that he has always had that side under control! When the time was right, that side asked for permission to take over, the light side gave permission and they both merged into one. "So cower at the man I've become, when I sing from the top of my lungs That I won't retire, I'll stand in your fire, inspire the weak to be strong". And he does inspire me to dare to show my anger instead of letting it eat me up inside and to stand up for myself when someone has wronged me. I only wish I got to know Ren when I was much younger. So many times in my past life I had benefited greatly from his example. My admiration and respect for this man has only grown stronger over the 18 months I've followed him. He is not only intelligent, he is also incredibly wise. The fact that he can also be both playful and silly only makes him even more lovable.

[@Muzak2283]

The double tap to the back of the head at the end always gets me. 🤣 The full explainer vid(if ppl have not yet, check it out) does the real damage to Kujo, this video is just therapy for Ren getting it out and having fun at the same time. Plus we fans all get to enjoy the fun as well. Watching the reactors have a blast with this diss theater is everything. I still can not believe Kujo put himself down as a songwriter on sick boi under his beat reference on Beat Stars.

[@horsnpony365]

Someone at Beat Stars should take that off Kujo’s discography. It is a blatant lie. He was not involved in any part of the song writing process of Sick Boi. Claiming that he was a songwriter on his Beat Stars account is just another example of his utter lack of integrity and cognitive skills. Like no one in the Reniverse would ever see that and call him out?! Knox Hill was so mad that he show’s a screenshot of Kujo claiming to be a songwriter on Sick Boi. “Kujo” may become a new age descriptive adjective for Compulsive Liar. 🤥

[@angelapursley2811]

"This is how the Sickboi works; you feelin' me"!!!!!!❤❤

[@TRPLD]

What I needed to learn through years of therapy is, it is very healthy to express your anger. You need to do it otherwise you boil over at some point. You just need to find the right way to vent. And Ren truly found it. He got out all his feelings of anger, now he can focus on what needs to be done from the legal/real life side.

[@Cvusmo]

"Art from the start, see what I did there." LOL that was awesome Edit 1: 13:33 hands down the best reaction I've seen on youtube. The way you just explained anger and how it's viewed by society was wonderful. I'm a veteran with PTSD and it took me a very long time to understand this. I'd get stuck in that loop of getting angry, feeling guilty for being angry, then being angry that I feel guilty. Once I understood it's okay to feel angry and ways to express my anger in a healthy way, things balanced out and I feel healthier as a man. Probably add more as I watch your reaction. Edit 2: 13:50 What do the people in the choir represent? I think that's an incredible question you brought up. What I think of the choir represents the damage greed causes to others. One persons greed, steals and kills life out of others. I think thats why we see the choir dead to represent the damage that Kujo and Ren's situation has created. You also see how Ren was in the chair tied up and enslaved himself. It doesn't single out Kujo as the prime evil in the situation. It takes shots at Kujo and holds him accountable for things he said as well as the things his girlfriend said. But the deeper shot taken is at the heart of the issue which is greed. 19:31 Freedom of speech is inherent in all cultures and societies. The culture decides that it is not what you say, but how you say what you say that determines consequence of action. If you're willing to accept that what you say will be judged by others and interpreted by the culture you live in, and you may face consequences for it, then you truly can say whatever you want to say. Ren's song and video "Kujo Beat Down" is the perfect example of this in action. He takes his emotions from this situation, expresses it in an artistic and healthy way, then releases it publicly. He says exactly what he wants to say. He's accepted there's consequences due to the culture he lives in which is why in his disclaimer he says that he will handle things personally. There's far too much fear in society surrounding being able to say something you believe or want to say. Much like you discussed earlier, the pendulum of society has shifted to the extreme of self-interest and what feels good. The more others are told they are not able to express themselves and say what they want to say, the more things get worse. I'd rather someone get things off their chest and communicate in a healthy albeit messy way than let it fester and choose to take an action to remedy some issue. Far better to talk it out and confront those feelings than to take an action of which you cannot take back. Again, absolutely loved your reaction and really enjoyed the questions you posed. 10/10!

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

Love this comment!! eloquently and beautifully summarized key points that stood out to you. Thank you also for the kind feedback. It really encourages me. You worded your points very well. I agree w you. That is indeed the better way and is becoming a lost art.

[@Cvusmo]

@rosalieelliottofficial thank you for the reaction! Glad I could be encouraging! Look forward to more awesome insight and reactions!

[@nyokaphillips5920]

Nope... THEY crossed a line that went too far!! Ren has always been kind, gracious, and forgiving. Sometimes, this becomes necessary!!

[@angelapursley2811]

That was beyond BRILLIANT❤❤REN IS MORE OF A GENIUS THAN I PERCEIVED❤❤❤❤

[@amandaglasscock9328]

This is quite possibly the best, most correct use of anger, I have ever witnessed. Ren processed this and created a brilliant piece of art that showcases the process, purpose, and power of anger. Extraordinary.

[@Jinxy44]

Someone called it new ‘Diss Theatre’ 👌🏼 Enjoyed your reaction. Thanks ❤

[@janegill8990]

I think this is a perfect expression of that pendulum. Eternally swaying from the dark to the light. The brighter the light shines the darker the shadiw it casts. Ren is dancing and swaying with that pendulum. It swung all the way to the dark for this, but he's still dancing and alllowing the darkness to have its moment. Because to deny it interupts its rhythm and its harder to get back to the light. That's how i see it anyway. 😊

[@yinunit]

Because Ren forewarned us that he was about to bear his true feelings about this situation and that his darker side would be expressed. I applaud this piece because Ren is in control of his feelings and actions and part of that must surely involve acting something out in a creative piece rather than doing it in real life (not that I'm suggesting he would) He is letting his demons out before they take hold. I feel protective towards him and feel like I am holding space for him. I feel many of his fans are doing the same. Big Love to Ren

[@notasheep4255]

Yes, well said!!! He had to “get it out somehow” so that he, and we, with our righteous Renegade anger, would not get it out in a more destructive way. I am a peaceful person, but glory in the theatrical expression of REN’s justified frustration and rage!💟🦅

[@justicerachel]

Rosalie, I was wondering if the figures in the white robes represented the Bulgarian choir who originated the stolen sample.

[@mstewart109]

Sick boi back up on utube today!!! Ren met with utube big wig and explained and also they discussed better ways for artists to navigate utube better and have better outcomes at times etc. go see his post this am!!! So happy for Ren!!!

[@k1k2voyer]

How he has been treated, there is no too far. So long as it is safe and violence free Ren was more than fair I think.

[@paulwalker4117]

Literally came straight to you to see your thoughts! Love you Rosalie, thanks for having our brothers back. Much love xx

[@chaigallop9583]

You already said it all. There is a time for everything. There's a time to turn the other cheek, and there is a time for the brutality of eye for an eye. Society, globally, are in a deranged " feel good all the time" addiction. Many people are denying the full range of their own emotions. They want to only feel "positive", and they judge anyone who expresses a fuller range of the emotional spectrum as "sick" or "deranged". Ren has had lived experiences that have created a man who is determined to no longer be silenced.

[@joshuacraig6447]

First reactor I'm watching on this one. I know you were mad when reacting to Ren's announcement, so I've been eager to watch this.

[@Well-in-the-garden]

The first time I listened to this track and watched the video I think I was in shock; like it was like a whiplash shock. I mean I am a Christian and it is shocking - however - the second time I watched it I internalised it mor I ingested it more and the third time I was just really impressed by the artistry of the whole piece. Yes it’s angry. Yes it goes there in terms of shock value and basically telling Kujo and his girlfriend exactly how he feels about the whole taking it public fiasco, but it’s still REN’s views, his raw emotional response and he uses his skills as an artist to meld his art and his artistic past pieces, like Sick Boi, Hi Ren and Money Game to blend together this little masterpiece dis track. Kujo - wow! Ren says it true, you gotta give him that. But he says it how it was; he tried to be reasonable. He tried to let the lawyers deal with it legally and he did everything right . Even now. He hasn’t done anything illegal - but did he go to far? It’s a really good piece of art, I’m just saying!?

[@Well-in-the-garden]

You definitely need to listen to this track a few times!

[@lindemama]

I saw the choir as the Bulgarian choir haunting him bc he stole their music and sold at his which is started all of it.

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

oh yes!! good point

[@sarag1521]

Yes, when they lay dead, it's a reminder that they are victims here to haunt Cujo. They also give me a little The Shining vibe, which is fun bc Cujo

[@christiang208]

@@sarag1521 As they were kinda consoling Kujo right before they 'died', they might more represent Kujos Fans or all the victims of greed..

[@notthatdrew5818]

I think you may mean 'bc kujo stole' and 'sold as his own work'. I see the choirs death as a result of kujo harming them as well.

[@mantasjoniskis]

The good Ren said, "f**k it" 😅

[@angelapursley2811]

😂😂😂 I was like oh shite, it IS ON NOW!!!!

[@LostHate]

I feel like Ren handled all this in the healthiest way possible.

[@haleyobermier7154]

Exactly. He tried other methods and when that didn't work, he wrote it out and got it out of his system while making it known he won't be taken advantage of.

[@Michaeldanson]

I can say he just gets better and better

[@MichaelHaynes-bx4vm]

I think this is the most theatrical and the only musical revenge to those two people who were horrible to him I have ever seen! I was abused verbally, physically and sexually, but no I won’t do anything physically to those two guys who drugged me and did unspoken things to me. I think he is still nice and I will completely love him for the kindness! I am keep reliving those moments from the past but my the best revenge is? To get better. Get over PTSD etc. I won’t be violent to anyone, never, even still not having the whole picture in my brain what they did to me? Nah, I won’t never ever do things like them, I am not a pr1ck. Love you Ren! Keep on going! ❤

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

I'm so sorry for what you went through. and proud of you for fighting for your healing.

[@MichaelHaynes-bx4vm]

@@rosalieelliottofficial bless you, I have never thought you would read it. Thank you. Keep going to do the great work you doing! I am keep checking your channel! You’re a star and cure to my broken soul x

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

@@MichaelHaynes-bx4vm I am glad that you saw my reply. Want you to know you are seen. you matter!

[@richardspencer5862]

We need to remember as well that he was “being held hostage” with the taking down of sick boi. He then “escaped” and now has then “hostage” by removing sick boi from being put back up at all. I think that’s the reference here. Not just that he’s angry and is showing them as hostages for the purposes of the video. There is reason to it.

[@FatFibroMama]

The aggressive nature of this is that other side of Ren, that we know lives inside him and he keeps a hold on. This man has battled himself long enough to have control but also has a medium to let that other truth be known. As for the expletives - he's from the UK, it's a natural form of expression for us here to use words like that

[@Tokin420]

1st reaction of many many more to watch of this killer song. Loved it. Love how much u support Ren. Been a subscriber for a about a yr now when u did Hi Ren. When he went to his dark side. I smiled so fuckin big!!

[@aixmhros]

as a person with 'anger issues' when therapists don't have answers, this is how real therapy works! we are human beings

[@schuhschrank947]

I learned from this video and before from the Dotta video that Ren shows his vulnerability, his pain, his grief and tears, his empathy and helpfulness but when someone hurts him he is strong and fights back in an intelligent and artistic way. And I love it. ❤

[@Chellistan]

Fellow therapist here…big fan of people embracing anger in this way. It’s healthy.

[@RiceyBhoy89]

Ren just showing us another side of his art. We all have emotions and I think Ren nailed this. Shock value ✅️ How pissed off he was ✅️

[@satyasunshine9737]

Ren's anger/ rage is COMPLETELY justified!!!!!!🙏🥰🫶💖🫂☮️

[@cassyviele3373]

If you feel up to it and it doesnt cross lines. Check out Knox reaction to the beatdown. He was with Ren while dealing with all this and explains things from Rens perspective. I felt uncomfortable at first but its the same discomfort i get from some of his other songs. Its just Ren. He tells us about this side of himself. We know it exists. It plays into Duiality like always.

[@serendipity1237]

I was uncomfortable too, but REN’s lyrics and imagery have often made me uncomfortable. And he has said that he actually enjoys pushing those kinds of boundaries, as long as they inspire reflection and conversation. And let’s face it, he also just gets a kick out of being shocking. ☝️😮😉

[@Sdt526]

My heart was pumping in my chest watching it

[@Laura-hx6yt]

I think what makes this so uncomfortable for me, as someone who does her best to take the "high road", sometimes not so successfully, what the implication and consequences of "f*** it" would look like to me. Knowing myself, dark and light, as well as i do, i couldn't help but cheer at the freedom of those words and, at the same time, be terrified of them. Like Ren has said, it's a dance. Thank God i am older and my steps are softer.

[@PChuu22]

Ren has made it very clear multiple times that he doesn't condone violence. He even had a disclaimer at the end of this video. If we're going to assume Kujo Beat Down is meant to convince people to get violent, then what is Murderer about? I'm glad he got it out. Now he can move forward with a clearer head.

[@michaeljohnscott7989]

Kujo, reap what you sow 😮 & Consider yourself Ren-negated 😊

[@perryrush6563]

Does anyone else get joy from when he almost skips around with his hands behind his back while the lyrical tune plays?

[@kennethmichael5404]

I LOVE when someone can artistically relay that taking one's kindness for weakness is worthy of aggressive correction, especially when a peace offering has been refused and the moral high ground spat upon. Ren's response was not "too far", it was required.

[@KristinPedemonti]

As a Narrative Therapy Practitioner, in my view this diss track was an incredible cathartic release through therapeutic art in form of brilliant lyrics, orchestration, production and visuals! Ren's entire career is built on lifting others up and being in service to the voiceless. to me Ren demonstrated how to take one's power back when it was stolen!

[@soundslike1life]

I think the people in white gown slaughtered represent the people who connected and got strength from the song Sick Boi, all the people that song helped... and this whole ordeal now taking that song and hope and feeling seen and heard away from those people.

[@sarah_n_dippity]

They represent the Bulgarian Choir who were illegally sampled, and are presumably killed out of any future versions of Sick Boi. Or maybe their death symbolizes the fact that Kujo did not deal legally with them, and killed their rights.

[@Bowdos]

A choir that sings for the people, especially songs that resonate with the Bulgarian community-be it folk or anthem-holds a deep cultural significance. This mirrors the connection Rens fans felt with the song "Sick Boi," a powerful anthem that spoke to their struggles. The removal of "Sick Boi," a song that gave hope to many and potentially even saved lives, feels like a silencing of those voices. The death of "Sick Boi" has symbolically erased the innocence it represented, with Kujo and his girlfriend bearing responsibility. Just as killing/silencing a choir erases the spirit of a nation, taking away "Sick Boi" feels like an attack on Rens fanbase.

[@annegreen9499]

I think he’s perfectly entitled as an artist, & an individual, to express himself, & to use his creativity as a cathartic release. It’s unfair of us as fans to place him on a pedestal & expect him to never show “negative” emotions as we might perceive them. All along he’s shown us a dichotomy within his psyche, which is what made Hi Ren such an authentic, visceral piece, & why I think so many people relate to him. He demonstrated that duality of the -ve inner voice we all have so well. While it’s uplifting to see him reach an inner balance in Hi Ren & for “hope to prevail” he very specifically said that this song is not Hi Ren 2, in fact it’s quite the opposite. I respect him for turning this -ve experience into something +ve by exercising creativity as an outlet; more so since he’s been very clear that he’ll not tolerate any bullying from his fans. I thinks it’s quite obvious that there’s a lot of symbolism in the video, which was great & so well done. The choir is a reference to the Bulgarian choir, who were illegally sampled. They are singing the word “sample” but I can’t make out their other words. They are killed off during the song because Sick Boi was pulled & he said he’ll not use the sample. So he metaphorically “killed them off” to show that part’s finished with. At one point you see Ren & Kujo switch places & Ren is tied up right before the pig mask makes an appearance. I think he’s trying to show that although in the song he has Kujo tied up, he was also being held to ransom because they were trying to use his song as leverage. I think in general REN’s fans respect him for his authenticity & transparency. He seems to be a lovely bloke & it appears that he tried everything he could to resolve this situation amicably. It’s really unfortunate that this happened. Perhaps Kujo was poorly advised as you suggest, but the more I see I really don’t think that that’s the case. He’s even claiming songwriting credits for Sick Boi on his BeatStars profile & all the behind the scenes nonsense in comments etc was done without lawyers. I think this song was Ren dealing with the experience in a very creative, mentally healthy way. Sometimes anger is justified but it’s how you express it that demonstrates whether you’re a balanced individual. Great song Ren. I enjoyed your reaction as always Rosalie. Much love xx

[@caladonn2659]

The more I hear from Ren the more I realize his Solution is to be a Teacher Opening the Eyes of Millions with his Art and his Heart! And I think Ren's message is Crystal Clear. Ambition and Passion Without Compassion Will Cause the World To Burn! But Ambition and Passion WITH Compassion Can Save It! But When Compassion Becomes a Target for Other's Greed, then the Truly Compassionate Must Stand Up and Acknowledge that Injustice and Greed Must be Confronted and Addressed!

[@RenxChilla]

You are my 1st :DDD Loved how you accepted your bias in previous reaction to Ren's account of this lol

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

thank you :) gotta keep it real w that projecting and transference stuff and all, right?

[@chrisdoyle8393]

Also worth noting that on Ren's video his first pinned comment from himself is to say do not teach out to Kujo or his +1, he can fight his own battles 👍

[@edwardhudson9851]

There's this Ren & fair play to him.for this MASTERPIECE,and there's the Ren doing flawless covers of Bob Marleys I Shot The Sherrif & Stings An Englishman In New York

[@chantibergwerff4251]

No, he didn't cross the line for me. Music is a way to express and deal with emotions. It's like talking to a therapist or writing in a diary. I relate and think it's amazing how Ren shows what reall emotions are. That doesn't mean he acts on them in that way, but he can still feel this way on the inside. Ren shows the emotions he went through. We all have them but not everybody wants to admid that that is what's going on inside our heads in public but It's part of being human. It doesn't mean your a bad person. It's the dance of dark and light, excepting that both exist in us and that both sides are needed for protecting your sense of self. I'm proud of Ren because he is not afraid to show what it's like to be human in the most honest way I've ever seen. It's beautifull. It's also inspiring to see how he was handeling this situation in reall life inspite of how it made him feel on the inside. Btw. I wouldn't call this a diss track. Diss tracks are about competition. Who writes the smartest insults. This track isn't about competition, like with Dotta. This is about letting the air out. 😘😘

[@spitwicked6188]

Watching my sixth reaction video. This channel always has great reactions. On to number 7.

[@willeymiller4760]

Wow loved your reaction and breakdown, Ren stayed true to his self here he has been transparent with everything from his lifes journey and all that he has been through good or bad he shows it all he has never strayed away from his belief that there is no place for greed and how people can get with the money game he had every right to be angry he puts everything into his music and for someone to take that for greed I can see that he should be angry and then to gaslight him in the process is even worse. Kujo took Rens kindness for weakness and Ren is showing that was a mistake on his part. As always your ride or die forever Eyyyyy Oooooo

[@Goodtide]

She's fast because her earings were off 😂 Love you lady! 🌻🤍⚖️🎼

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

hahahahah :D I keep laughing at this comment! Facts, Sis! big hug!!!

[@angelapursley2811]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@garycoombes844]

🎉Thanks for airing Rens kujo Beat Down ... so well .. we hear you . But hey the Vid was Hard 😮.. I look forward to part 2 ❤ bring it on . Rens an Artist.. hos work is very raw thats why we love him . ❤

[@Broken__Reality]

Part two is very clearly talking about a law suit of they keep lying. In his previous video talking about the whole situation he said at the end he would sue if they didn't stop spreading lies and defaming him. The line at the end "If I ever read another fucking comment from you then this is only part one, it's even worse in part two". This is in line with the end of his explanation video where he said a very similar thing that if they posted again he would sue.

[@jackieherber1095]

Ren is AMAZING!

[@TanyaQueen182]

I think I like this side of Ren...

[@lilgit9969]

That's Kujos career up in flames. Nice one Ren!!!

[@citizenxxxxx]

Sick Boi is a part of Ren. I’m an artist as well, and if a very personal piece that I poured myself into was being threatened into oblivion I would die a little inside. That song is REN’S!! Can you imagine how devastating it must have been for him to take it offline? His own personal piece of work, and others want to use it as a tool to push his hand for $$$. F*ck that. Sick Boi will always be out there and it will always be Ren’s.

[@kirsten3112]

Came for your reaction sister... I'm trying to adopt the ethos that everyone is my sister/brother... Esp when they take off their earrings for our brother ❤ This response from Ren was so emotional, so visceral. I cried happy tears. It feels like there is a movement, a change in how things can be done. And it brings hope ✨ Long live Ren. Long live his reactors. Long live his fans. Long live love... Ironic take from an epic diss track, but something I feel in my soul 💯

[@panchomcsporran2083]

What I do when I'm furious is write my furious rage in a letter and sleep on it, then in the morning I read it once then rip it up and burn it. It works for me.

[@christophervisavati8983]

This is one of the best videos his done. He explains everything in his 30 minute video. He has all the “receipts” so to speak. He is very transparent.

[@oopsdidItypethatoutloud]

It's how he feels inside that's all, which is cathartic I'm sure. He doesn't shy away from expressing his genuine feelings. But wise enough to say, it's not advocating aggression. So much rap glorifies violence in the real world, almost advocating for it. Ren expressing his inner rage, people would have to deliberately take it as advocating violence of any kind. The Renegades know different... obviously. ❤ from Northeast England ❤️

[@cristarose503]

I love whenever someone is nice but can also defend their own boundaries.

[@potterb39]

11:42 I appreciate what you are saying here and continue to explain it, thank you 🙏 it resonates and helps heal

[@har478]

This is hate in ART. A sublimation if this is the right word.

[@AnotherFacelessDigitalNoOne]

I love your husband dropping by. More of him ❤😊 if you have the ability to vent artistically, its the best use of your artistry. We dont even have to imagine the other avenues. We see them on the news most days. You "can" say whatever you want... But theres wisdom in understanding the consequences

[@spiritofhonuguidanceforlife]

The intro was him giving into his shadow side and allowing himself to become karma.

[@queensurvivor]

There's no better way then to use music to get the frustration out. So proud of Ren and the restraint and composure he showed through this. When it goes too far is when goes into "real life". That's the beauty/ugliness of rap. Can be both. Just because I may not be comfortable with it, not my prefernce, but that is also my choice to listen or not. Looking forward to the all Ren SickBoi!

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

Agreed. Music is def a powerful way to express emotion

[@Milkgirl21]

Are you a top fan too?

[@PamweChete2503]

This song track reminds me of the psychopath from the movie Conair. In the movie, the perspective is that the psycho is so dangerous that even the most hardened criminals are scared of him. This makes them look more human than they really are. Then at the end of the movie, he is sat down playing with the little girl. It is at that moment you realise he is not the dangerous one…it is us, the judgemental ones, who are dangerous.

[@ShellyZorEl]

My first of many reactions to this video!!! I love your reactions. Thank you for showing up

[@davidpearson6785]

Beast mode ren

[@sabinemeurer2972]

Hi Rosalie, first I love your humor from minute 28:57 until 29:13 - it was so funny and adorable! Then I would like to recommend to you Knox Hill's reaction, because he was with Ren during a certain time when all of this happened. He explains very well some of the references with profound background knowledge. Last but not least your honest, psychological analysis are great for educating the public conscience in why and how emotions affect our behaviour as also how important it is, to take the responsibility for our actions.

[@silentwhisp4r670]

Awesome reaction. I respect Ren ending with that message and pinning a comment on his video expressing that people shouldn't bully or harass anyone for this. I have seen a lot of Dis Tracks and never see anyone but Ren do that.

[@karenkruger3690]

After what Kujo did to Ren, understandably he is pissed off and mad as hell! REN is HUMAN and putting him in a box of "Mr Nice guy" only is not fair nor rational! The Kujo Beatdown is a masterpiece of Ren's strenght and tolerance to Kujo's greed. It's rap music, and there will be anger due to situations after all...it's ART! Demographic/regional factors are definitely visible with this analysis! WoW this reaction was overboard in wild ways 🤯.

[@carlahelin5203]

Raw truth in art. Go Ren!

[@chuiduma]

I think Ren was kinder to them than many others would have been. He also made it clear that, wvwn when giving into his rage, words would be his weapon and not actual violence: "let me cut this worm with my razor blade pen." I also think he had darker, much more angry ideas in mind and deliberately held back so as to not cross a line. Hence his reference to part 2 being worse. Looking at the entire situation, and even giving Kujo the benefit of the doubt as far as the legalities, so many of his actions were unwarranted and he should have known better. He failed to disclose the sample in the beat he sold and represented it as his own. He violated the KZbin ToS and issued a false copyright strike against Ren's channel. Even if there was an issue with the publishing and properly crediting the beat for that short time, giving him claim for a violation of contract, that isn't something that should be handled by issuing a copyright strike, and it's illegal to issue a false strike. Then his girldlfriend falsely represents the contract, defaming Ren. Ren went above and beyond in trying to work something out with Kujo and make sure everything was right, and Kujo refused. I don't blame Ren for being angry, and I think handling it through his art, expressing raw emotions the way he does, is admirable. He has shown a level of maturity that many people twice his age never will, and his openness and the self-reflection that is so clearly evident in his art speaks to people because his emotions are a symptom of the human condition. He shows us it's okay to _feel,_ and to feel so deeply. And instead of lashing out in true violence, he directs those emotions into his art. He's an incredible artist, and I am thankful that he is willing to share his experiences. His art has literally saved lives and given people hope that things will get better. I really think his lyrics are incredibly deliberate, and have much more meaning than you might think on a first listen. For instance, when he warns Kujo not to talk about him again, "out in public then it's public you don't want that again." It's a reference to what Ren said about them accusing him of taking the entire issue public and sending his fans to harass them, when they were already posting publicly before Ren knew what was going on.

[@jackpeyton9225]

Fantastic reaction. Really good objective discussion

[@mrsv221]

Bringing the girlfriend out had me😂 I wasn't expecting that🔥 epic.

[@Lemonbees]

Reminiscent piano, beautiful...echo 🎉

[@PippaHinchleyComedy]

Brilliant reaction! Insightful and fair. I feel if anyone watched Ren's explanation it is very clear that this IS him getting the anger out and also that he tried multiple ways of resolving the conflict - all of which were rejected and met with publically stated lies and misrepresentation. Yes, I think Kujo had v bad advice and not sure how old he is or how savvy about the industry but he blanked or was utterly silent after all the offers of calm resolution, collaborating, making much more money than he could ever have from Sickboi, raising him up, and even friendship. He had no other options left and was then, after all that, being defamed/slandered/libelled by Kujo and girlfriend. Ren is letting off the steam here and is now clear of it, I think. Cannot be underestimated what this did to him - that particular track as the title song of his no 1 album has affected his livelihood, his mental and physical health (just as he'd returned from 18 months of treatment) and the all important streaming numbers for it - LOWERING the status of the ENTIRE ALBUM in terms of plays/rankings/it's position in the world and more. The repercussions go way beyond just the track itself. And I believe that because one is in the spotlight - and we know Ren holds himself super accountable and accepts his responsibilty so much as public figure with platform - it should not mean you lose your freedom to express any emotion in art; that you are morally obliged to be the better person, though Ren so often is, and was indeed trying to follow his own strong ethical principles here too but was not met with like minds and the attempts failed. People do not have to watch and are actively asked NOT to join in his personal fight. My 10 pence worth! Anyway - Great response, woman! Pippa (in the UK).

[@Fraxxxi]

There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man.

[@AndrewinAus]

This was a great deep dive Rosalie, I watched the release a little late (4am for the live was a bit of a stretch). Ren chose a constructive outlet for his anger and frustration here I think. He is justifiably upset, annoyed, angry. As are many of the RENegades I think. But his response to this entire mess has been reasonable I think, I loved the reference to the Bulgarian choir too who were also dragged into all this as well. As he said this was different to the whole King Dotta situation, this one I think really really hurt so an equal response was required.

[@RippedPixels]

This song is FIRE!!!!!!!🔥

[@briankejlberg7563]

Thanks for your objectivity, I found your words very appealing and I nod along with a lot of your perspectives. I might not agree with everything you're saying but I very much respect your perspectives, and I follow a lot of how you're interpret/analyze both the song and the legal situation. Thanks - I appreciate your content.

[@beaperdomo6305]

Defend with words and music.

[@robingayle68]

Ren mentions Jimmy the cookies 🍪 and the jar (mg3 reference)❤ I am reminded of another maxim: something about poking sleeping bears 🐻? Yeah- should be on everybody's do not do list. Hippy dippy doozah❤😂 love it

[@melaniebrimhall2280]

The only threat I feel like he made was saying there would be a part 2 if they don't quit.