Renaissance Man Reaction/Analysis to The Warning - Enter Sandman (Pepsi Center CDMX) Epic=TheWarning

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IGE - Individual Group Effort - Ken Lawson

IGE - Individual Group Effort - Ken Lawson

Күн бұрын

Amazing and exceeded expectations.
Original Video : • The Warning - Enter Sa...
#thewarningreaction #thewarning #Enter Sandman
The Warning: Three Sisters from Monterrey, México, Daniela (Lead Vocal, Guitar), Paulina (Drummer, Lead Vocal), and Alejandra Villarreal (Bass, Background Vocals).
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@KansaSCaymanS
@KansaSCaymanS 2 күн бұрын
Whoever composed the string parts did a fantastic job! 😎👍
@Dr8gon1
@Dr8gon1 2 күн бұрын
I saw somewhere that the string section was an all female group.
@WaldoKitty
@WaldoKitty 2 күн бұрын
@@Dr8gon1 they were... all three nights, too... Guadalajara, Monterrey, and Mexico City...
@manuelesquivel9732
@manuelesquivel9732 2 күн бұрын
​@@WaldoKittyGuad did not have this
@jcparker500
@jcparker500 2 күн бұрын
It completely baffles me the people who watch reaction videos and get mad about pauses. If you want to watch the videos without pauses, go watch the original! It's a reaction channel for Pete's sake. Sheesh!
@kenmathis9380
@kenmathis9380 2 күн бұрын
I agree! When the reactor hears something that excites them, I want to hear about it.
@KMF_Talon
@KMF_Talon 2 күн бұрын
So much this, if you wanna watch just the video watch it, I enjoy reactors reacting in their style
@steveherman6909
@steveherman6909 2 күн бұрын
Yes, yes and yes. Also yes, we should watch the original for the band to get views. In addition to what each of you said, I'd rather a pause and rewind than the people who incessantly talk over the song. Not calling out specific channels, but there are a few out there.
@carlossaraiva8213
@carlossaraiva8213 Күн бұрын
There's a ballance. If you spend more time interrupting and chinwaging than the duration of the video itself that can be frustrating. I am not talking about a post video talking, that can be a long as a reactioneer desires. But if a reactir listens to 20 seconds of a song and spends 3 minutes talking and the cycle continues that hoes from very annoying to suspicious. It is impossible to appreciate a song from lots of small samples with long interruptions, that is not a thing and makes the reactir look less than honest. And bloody narcisistic too.
@jaredrichardson3284
@jaredrichardson3284 Күн бұрын
100% agree. I cannot stand the reactions that just bob along with an occasional "Fire!" or "Yeah!" May as well watch the original and use my own exclamations. I watch reactions for the added content, analysis and explanation.
@dalatina911
@dalatina911 2 күн бұрын
I should also mention that Dani’s vocals have matured so much since their Teatro performance, she sounds incredible! I love when you geek out on things, please don’t ever change that! ❤
@MrFjbarba
@MrFjbarba 2 күн бұрын
It is really exciting what these girls can do and their entire team that supports them. I loved the strings ladies playing their instruments and rocking along with The Warning, they were the best placed fans in the venue, and they even got paid!! Amazing!!!
@Highrider_Phil_C
@Highrider_Phil_C 2 күн бұрын
The re-invented song of the decade, this is such an iconic song that I feel will last the test of time in the world of "Rock". 😆
@bjwnashe5589
@bjwnashe5589 2 күн бұрын
The attention to detail on display here, and throughout the whole concert, is remarkable. For a young band to deliver a show of this caliber is uncommon, to say the least. The sound mix, lighting, video background, stage set-up, musicianship, vocals, stage presence… all top-notch. And now we’ve got an entire string section? It’s amazing.
@AllenMadsen-pu6th
@AllenMadsen-pu6th 2 күн бұрын
This amazing performance from Pau mere minutes after radiating her soul out to 8000 fans singing Black Holes and Beathe. She truly is Super Human.
@tehawfulestface1337
@tehawfulestface1337 2 күн бұрын
Again, an already pic song made even more epic, again at the Pepsi Center. With all the trimmings! String sections, Alessia’s background vocals and Lzzy Hale’s gift to Dany. The fans singing with them. And that you can see the three sisters in close ups. The combinations are so awesome. I am in tears!!!!
@CarlD70
@CarlD70 2 күн бұрын
Well hell!! May piss off some die-hard Metallica fans (I am one) but they simply need to just hand this one over to The Warning. Never seen or heard anything like this in many Decades and all I've got is this: ‘Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious’". Thanks Ken. WOW!!! is quite correct.
@steveherman6909
@steveherman6909 2 күн бұрын
If I were to guess, depending on your age, "Enter Sandman" probably isn't in your top five Metallica songs even prior to The Warning.
@CarlD70
@CarlD70 2 күн бұрын
@steveherman6909 You would be wrong and yes it is...seen them live 5 times.. and they played this great song each time. Have tickets to their Charlotte show near me in May 2025 at Bank of America Stadium. Love the original from Metallica, this is simply the best re-imagining of this song by anyone to date. Sorry MHO, it is better. Is what it is.
@steveherman6909
@steveherman6909 2 күн бұрын
@@CarlD70 Fair enough. I first saw them on the Damage Inc tour when they opened for Ozzy, so "Enter Sandman" didn't exist yet. I don't hate on the Black album, but it did fall a little flat for me. I also think "...And Justice For All" is often underrated, just for context. I do indeed love what The Warning did with the reimagining, and do recognize that "Enter Sandman is a Metallica classic, just not one of my favorites. Apologies for assuming, mate.
@donrichards271
@donrichards271 2 күн бұрын
Those string players were having a blast. If I'd known a violin player had a chance to do something like this I would have kept on with lessons as a kid.
@TheBigGiant_SpaceChiken
@TheBigGiant_SpaceChiken 2 күн бұрын
You have to remember that all three of them are classically trained pianists. These ladies are real musicians, not just pretty faces. I would not be surprised to learn that they (or at least one of them, probably Pau) did the string arrangement themselves.
@Arturo.H.M
@Arturo.H.M 2 күн бұрын
Piensa que ya en su primer EP, la canción que da nombre al EP ("Escape the mind"), tiene un arreglo de cuerda. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3nLZH58fZmlm9Esi=AgQ4gOSIztRkes7S
@gregoryvlchek269
@gregoryvlchek269 2 күн бұрын
As I commented for another's recent reaction video for Black Holes, prior to this show, Pau was conspicuously absent from several interviews, and people were wondering why, but Dany and Ale never addressed it. When the fan-cam videos first came out of the show and I saw that they had a string section, it hit me that, Pau may have been absent from those several interviews because she was helping to write and arrange the parts and score the charts for the strings. After all, due to her extensive formal training in classical piano etc. and stint at Berklee studying composition, we know that she can read music at a high level and more than likely write out charts as well (Early on I saw a home video showing a whiteboard with written music on it in 'The Warning Cave'). So, my point is that Pau may have played a substantial, integral part in composing the string arrangements we're hearing here as well. I don't think that it's too far-fetched to assume that. You did say that, in certain sections, the strings sound "Warningish".
@GreatOutdoors1
@GreatOutdoors1 2 күн бұрын
I have seen a man's name mentioned in another video's comments that composed the string parts, I don't remember the name though. I would not be surprised if Pau worked with someone in the arrangement.
@CraigCholar
@CraigCholar Күн бұрын
​@@GreatOutdoors1Paul McCartney didn't arrange the strongs for Eleanor Rigby, but he vocalized parts of arrangement as he heard it in his head while a classically trained arranger transcribed them into proper notation. I would guess Pau and an arranger could have collaborated in a similar way.
@arctic_haze
@arctic_haze 2 күн бұрын
This version has "with Alessia Cara" in its name. And this is no accident. Alessia was not only singing but she was also a co-author of the arrangement. This is why the sisters will never remove the Alessia backtrack as long as they sing Enter Sandman (but sadly they may now sing it very rarely).
@reactionsaccount3955
@reactionsaccount3955 2 күн бұрын
All your comments about Pau is why I am dreaming of her on Drumeo hear a song for the first time series, as I suspect that this would be extremely interesting.
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl 2 күн бұрын
I am hoping for that as well ever since I saw the first one.
@spidernose
@spidernose 2 күн бұрын
To the gentleman that don't like the way you do reactions... Buh bye. You love the girls as much as I do and that's all I need.
@keenian6164
@keenian6164 2 күн бұрын
STUNNING!!!!!!!!!!!!
@rodneyramirez603
@rodneyramirez603 2 күн бұрын
On top of it!! First on the take, luv it! You know there’s going to be mega reactions to this
@dalatina911
@dalatina911 2 күн бұрын
This was the song that introduced me to the warning - oh my gosh, the STRINGS! It’s funny you mention Pau’s interesting bass patterns, cause I just started trying to learn this song on the drums - and you’re absolutely right! She rarely uses the traditional “money beat”. It seems like she follows Ale’s bass line very close and it sounds amazing. I love it. As a fairly new drummer, Pau is so inspirational
@robertkrawitz8237
@robertkrawitz8237 2 күн бұрын
I really like that little concertmaster (principal first violin) solo leading into the song. The music itself was composed by someone who really understands string writing. It was dissonant in parts, but not bombastic like when Metallica recorded it with the San Francisco SO. You're one of the few reviewers who have noticed that the riff at the end is played differently from the original, with Pau contributing to the melodic line, not just setting the beat. During one of the fanvids, I noticed that when the strings started to leave the stage Dany stopped the concertmaster and had them all come back out on stage so she could credit them. The strings themselves were placed quite prominently, the violins and violas on the steps to the drum riser and the cellos on the floor well forward facing the audience (which probably made it a bit more difficult for them, since they couldn't easily see any cues from the concertmaster). They've dropped it altogether from their set list (the only song they're now playing not from Error or KMF is Narcisista), and I won't be entirely surprised if it doesn't come back. I suspect that if they do bring back some older work (I hope they do) it will be some of the stalwarts from QoTMS and perhaps Survive or When I'm Alone. Oh, and I *do* appreciate pauses to point out interesting things. I like analytical reviews/reactions because it's a way to learn something. If I want to listen to it through, I know exactly how to do that.
@brentcollins9727
@brentcollins9727 2 күн бұрын
Another fantastic detailed analysis. The more stops, the better.
@jamessummerlin9516
@jamessummerlin9516 2 күн бұрын
Love the strings on this. The Warning raised the bar for rock groups performing with strings, this is how it should be done. I’ve seen so many bands over the years drag a whole orchestra along on tour just so they could do their best to drown them out. The sense of fullness that was added was like a wave washing over and coloring the song.
@slayerfern
@slayerfern 2 күн бұрын
I'm totally in shock after watching this. They need to play this with Metallica now. That has to happen
@jeffbaranowski6695
@jeffbaranowski6695 2 күн бұрын
WOW! Just WOW!! Incredible.
@LostHate
@LostHate 2 күн бұрын
I'd like to say, I'm glad you pause and go back that's what I'm here for. I agree with the black and white video and OMV. Only thing I miss from the Teatro on this is the Ale falsetto. I'm sure its still there but can't really hear it in this. Or maybe she was even more under the weather than Pau. I've never noticed Dany playing that part with fingers before either. I wonder if it was to give room for all the extra instruments or if we just couldn't see before. Yeah, Pau and Ale are always so locked in especially that kick. I still want a version with Ale doing the "now I lay me down to sleep" part like they originally planned.
@pakocruz18
@pakocruz18 2 күн бұрын
They're WONDERFUL !!! as Always....I Love Them Forever.
@oregonlt3
@oregonlt3 2 күн бұрын
Fantastic! And thanks for not apologizing for pausing. It’s a reaction/review for $^&@ sake! 😂. That’s what we’re here for.
@AllenMadsen-pu6th
@AllenMadsen-pu6th 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for pointing out Pau's drumming style. Being a former drummer myself, my ear is tuned to the percussion then the bass, etc. Also now in my advanced years, it is so wonderful to hear a drummer with such varied tools to pull from. To me she is a mix of Keith Moon, Gavin Harrison and Neil Peart. Drummers that didn't just keep time, but played the song. Of course Pau has the luxury of Ale keeping time so she can focus on playing and singing.
@joenewman6494
@joenewman6494 2 күн бұрын
Excellent reaction later❤️😎🇺🇸
@kevinthetruckdriver353
@kevinthetruckdriver353 2 күн бұрын
Alessia Cara & The Warning did performed Enter Sandman live second night at The Troubadour (LA) during their Mayday US tour in 2022. Don't think both artist will perform this song live again. Since The Warning has dropped Enter Sandman from their setlist. To me. I get this *"Psycho"* vibe with the strings on Enter Sandman. Unlike the strings that accomplied *"Black Holes".* These strings added the nuisance of this nightmare of the lullaby. If only The Warning had more time & a larger budget. They might of added strings to their Blacklist cover.
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl 2 күн бұрын
I almost referenced Psycho in my comments after the "stabbing" section.
@harrybroaddus846
@harrybroaddus846 2 күн бұрын
The strings sure do add "flavor" to the song here. Damn, this show is next level. ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥🤘🤘Played Midnight Suns - yeah baby!
@davejohnston2197
@davejohnston2197 2 күн бұрын
❤️⚡🤘 we're all required to see every moment they play. TWA is about seeing anything DPA! Love ya!
@rexwave4624
@rexwave4624 Күн бұрын
Dany raises her hand to her hair to stash the pick between her fingers for the fingerpicking, then flips it out to resume picking. Pau is my goddess of drums. Her kick drives every song. The drummer this bass player always dreamed of.
@randymarple9830
@randymarple9830 2 күн бұрын
Your problem, Ken, is that you see and hear to much. And you share it with us. That's why I listen to your channel. Most of TWA has heard this song many times and haven't seen many of the things you show us. It is YOUR channel. Keep being you!!!
@mafufo
@mafufo 2 күн бұрын
Fast! Great great song!!
@jaenxantana8675
@jaenxantana8675 2 күн бұрын
It's the best version I've ever heard! 🤘
@dlblakey62
@dlblakey62 2 күн бұрын
🤘⚡️🔥Brilliant!
@spidernose
@spidernose 2 күн бұрын
There you are! First to react!!!
@CarlD70
@CarlD70 2 күн бұрын
Almost.
@romeoromo-kt5vn
@romeoromo-kt5vn 2 күн бұрын
Excellent my friend... Excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@billyholderman1691
@billyholderman1691 2 күн бұрын
THIS WAS BAD ASS ❤‍🔥🤘⚡🤘
@RikkieRokks
@RikkieRokks 2 күн бұрын
i think PAU arranged the strings. She is so talented!
@kevinthetruckdriver353
@kevinthetruckdriver353 2 күн бұрын
First time I heard The Warning was going to do The Blacklist album doing Enter Sandman. I said why. It was promoted Alessia Cara and The Warning. Great. 😮 Then I heard the trailer. My interest perked up. Couldn't wait for a audio/music video for it. Since & still only like one song from Metallica and that's *"One".*
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl 2 күн бұрын
I hate watching people react to the official video of One because of all the movie shit they put in it. It's not like it's hard to figure out what the song is about without the footage. It's just distracting to me and I feel like viewers are being robbed of hearing parts of the song. Maybe it's just me though.
@kevinthetruckdriver353
@kevinthetruckdriver353 2 күн бұрын
@@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl - I never saw the music video when that album was released. Think I saw *"And Justice for All"* CD at the library. Took it home. Listen to One. Like it. Never thought it was a war song until I saw the video years later. Didn't care for the video. Was a mess. Thank god I was around before MTV. Where the only music video is in your mind.
@a0montero0
@a0montero0 2 күн бұрын
🤘
@dirkana
@dirkana 2 күн бұрын
next time the oh oh oh can be preformed by a choir😂
@oldmanyeni1663
@oldmanyeni1663 10 сағат бұрын
Ken, I ran into a couple of the string players outside the Pepsi Center after the show. They were both grinning from ear to ear. Didn't get a chance to do more than give a thumbs up, but they sure seemed to have enjoyed themselves.
@Dave_Marks
@Dave_Marks 2 күн бұрын
Alessia Cara did ES once live with TW. It was their Troubadour concert May 23, 2022.
@KMF_Talon
@KMF_Talon 2 күн бұрын
Don't change your style, those of us that like you will stick around, the people that just wanna bob their head with someone else will find the channels that do that. The 5-7 minutes videos are what that demographic are looking for, not everyone wants that.
@wolfgangwalk337
@wolfgangwalk337 2 күн бұрын
Hate to do this to Metallica, but they are not the sole owners of the song anymore.
@steveherman6909
@steveherman6909 2 күн бұрын
I'm not one to rail on Lars Ulrich, but I do like quite a few drummers over him, including Pau of course. Same with Kirk Hammett, solid player but not spectacular. I first saw Metallica when they were opening for Ozzy in April of 1986 while Cliff Burton was still with us. To me, he and James Hetfield were why Metallica are considered among the "founding four" of Thrash Metal. This was of course prior to the "Black album" and "Enter Sandman". The Warning's retake on the track has always been quite fitting, as the 2014 cover is what drew attention to the multi talented Villareal sisters as any fan already knows. I believe this will be one track that is canon to the setlist, perhaps as long as they are performing live.
@csbsrich
@csbsrich 2 күн бұрын
I always watch the original release like I'm sure all your subs do. I tune in for your insight even as a long time supporter of the band I like other intelligent input you catch things I miss. The Drummer from Helix has a small you Tube channel he also pointed out Pau's Posture as perfect and how accurate she hits the heads. In closing if he doesn't like your videos who cares
@tomwebb8835
@tomwebb8835 2 күн бұрын
Pau's last fill is one of her signature fills. It's in Narcisista and Evolve 😉
@gill2105
@gill2105 2 күн бұрын
The Warning and their team are the best. Republic records struck diamond , platinum and gold better known as DPA. What a phenomenal show. 🤘⚡️🤘
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl 2 күн бұрын
Would the initials mean that Ale has to be aluminum? She is very flexible, if need be, yet strong and resilient.
@gill2105
@gill2105 2 күн бұрын
@@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl maybe Ambergris , when I wrote this I didn’t even realize I had correlated DPA with the minerals, but ambergris super expensive I’ll go with that 😎
@50pike
@50pike 2 күн бұрын
i like you reactinons AMIGO..real good
@NajeKim
@NajeKim 2 күн бұрын
I've started to see more covers of The Warning's version than of Metallica's original version. IMHO, DPA has taken over full ownership of "Enter Sandman."
@bdbing23
@bdbing23 2 күн бұрын
With the added strings, it sounds like it should be in a James Bond movie! I love it! ⚡️🤘
@TeemarkConvair
@TeemarkConvair 2 күн бұрын
fun to see a couple of the violinists with big smiles..,,strings in ES,, who'da thunk it?
@knirtvanakurt143
@knirtvanakurt143 Күн бұрын
Really This is very good
@Scott_Diverscott
@Scott_Diverscott 2 күн бұрын
I wonder if one of the cameramen forgot to switch their filter from B&W back to color. 😂
@nichep1
@nichep1 2 күн бұрын
The strings remind me of a Bond movie.
@carlossaraiva8213
@carlossaraiva8213 Күн бұрын
I think whoever made the orquestral.arrangement must be a fan of Ryuichi Sakamoto.
@rayrobins2696
@rayrobins2696 2 күн бұрын
DPA 🔥🔥🔥 TWA 🤘🤘🤘 UK ⚡⚡⚡
@Arturo.H.M
@Arturo.H.M 2 күн бұрын
Aquí los coros que hacen Pau y Ale en la versión del vídeo (la parte que están en las tres puertas), los hacen la sección de cuerda.
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl 2 күн бұрын
I'll have to listen again for that. Good catch.
@lupiyorro
@lupiyorro 2 күн бұрын
Wow...
@RaveEpic
@RaveEpic 2 күн бұрын
Ken, I've been going through these Pepsi Center videos and for some songs, like Dust to Dust, Paulina's vocals have been switched to the Teatro vocals. There's actually a lot of this going on in the pepsi center videos. Even though she was sick, I enjoyed her original pepsi center vocals better. Do you think bands should replace entire stems like this or from a marketing perspective, it just has to be done?
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl 2 күн бұрын
From my experience singing live, I can tell you that there are some vocals on nights where everything else went great but you were sick or had a bad night, you just can't put it out that rough (It's embarrassing). Especially with a huge project that you put a lot of money and effort into. I won't ever go back to compare because, if they did replace some of the vocals, those fan-cams are never going to be watched again now that these are out. Every band fixes glaring issues in a big release. I think it's the right choice.
@RaveEpic
@RaveEpic 2 күн бұрын
@@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl I'm always going to be mixed on these fixes, but that is the standard, for sure. Appreciate the reply.
@GreatOutdoors1
@GreatOutdoors1 2 күн бұрын
I really think you should add "In your opinion" to your statement unless you have some definitive evidence to support your claim.
@GreatOutdoors1
@GreatOutdoors1 2 күн бұрын
I just went back and listened to D2D from both concerts, and from what I hear, there is a clear difference in Pau's vocals of the same part from each performance. From 1:10 - 1:14 at Teatro you can hear a break in her voice when she sings "Now", while at the same part in the Pepsi concert which is from 1:07 - 1:11, she seems to sing it cleanly.
@RaveEpic
@RaveEpic 2 күн бұрын
@@GreatOutdoors1 It's all opinions here. There's no point in putting that disclaimer. Going through a lot of The Warning in Studio One has shown me that their big releases are altered quite a bit. All bands do this. Teatro and PC are both altered in big ways. That's just how it is. Did you notice that Ken answered my question with zero hostility? Because we both know bands do this.
@nathanriggs1125
@nathanriggs1125 Күн бұрын
Well for the one that doesn't like the way you do things, there are plenty of us that do.
@reynaldorodriguez9412
@reynaldorodriguez9412 Күн бұрын
🤘🤘
@jackchilds8322
@jackchilds8322 Күн бұрын
🤘⚡️🤘
@Enoughcrypto
@Enoughcrypto Күн бұрын
TW 🤟
@Jessicasalsera
@Jessicasalsera 2 күн бұрын
⚠️❣️⚡️❤️‍🔥
@charlielightfoot7006
@charlielightfoot7006 2 күн бұрын
I need more pauses and more redundant commentary. 😏
@charlielightfoot7006
@charlielightfoot7006 2 күн бұрын
Nobody likes my sarcastic humor? 🤷
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl 2 күн бұрын
Sarcasm is so hard to convey in a comment. I keep trying as well and it rarely goes as planned. I tend to use the full all teeth grin emoji to suggest it is just sarcasm. Works most of the time.
@charlielightfoot7006
@charlielightfoot7006 2 күн бұрын
@@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl Point well taken. I thought a smirk emoji would suffice. Some people resort to /sarc in brackets, but that lacks subtlety. 😁
@CarlD70
@CarlD70 2 күн бұрын
Oh I get it now...took a minute after listening to Ken. Clever. Sarcasm noted.
@davidrees4218
@davidrees4218 2 күн бұрын
Usually I like the addition of a string section (Black Holes was great) on this however, not so much. It starts off well enough, but for me it ends up not adding to the song. I much prefer the Teatro Metropolitan version, not that I'm saying this version is bad.
@oskarfunes2505
@oskarfunes2505 2 күн бұрын
You don't have to APOLOGIZE!!!
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl
@ige-individualgroupeffort-kenl 2 күн бұрын
Nice!
@madmex123
@madmex123 2 күн бұрын
It’s good, but I much prefer their teatro metropolitan version. I still like it, but I’m not exactly a fan of orchestral arrangements. You don’t need to apologize. You’re reacting to a song and pausing is part of it. if someone complains about you pausing too frequently, then they need to watch the original version.
@valleydairy
@valleydairy 2 күн бұрын
killed by a cello shot?!
@marcogutierrez437
@marcogutierrez437 2 күн бұрын
Metallica needs back to the school 😂
@dirkana
@dirkana 2 күн бұрын
first
@longcastle4863
@longcastle4863 Күн бұрын
Why watch a reactor who doesn’t pause to react? It’s illogical
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