Lat Pulldown Flaws and Better Back Exercises to Consider

[@matthewobrien6802]

Thank you Dr. Mike for helping get my back blown out!

[@maxduckie9067]

i'd word that differently

[@pedrocarvalho6609]

​@@maxduckie9067i wouldn't

[@yabrielrivera1162]

​@@maxduckie9067😂😂

[@LHB_liak]

@@maxduckie9067 Thank you Dr. Mike for telling me to lean over and blowing my back out!

[@Last_Respecter]

I wouldn’t

[@Sixdramaticsystemsfromamemory]

I dont understand how greg doucette thinks that what your saying is too hard for lifters. Maybe its target audiences or smth, but i find your content very direct and easy to understand.

[@marzoval9551]

Greg Doucette simply isn't credible.

[@aduantas]

he thinks the average viewer is a dumbass, and given his audience, it makes sense

[@SuperheroRockstar]

Because there is no shilling for one of his random suppliments.

[@zacwilson1251]

Because Greg Doucette is an idiot

[@GOAT-rl2uq]

If Doucette thinks this is too hard for lifters, he must have a very low opinion of his audience.

[@williamgandre6211]

I was just questioning today whether lat pulldowns were working for me. Effectively summarized every issue I've noticed with it. Must be a sign from the universe. Thanks Dr. Mike!

[@fk9277]

Same. It's wild

[@droman2]

Reverse closer grip has done wonders for my pull downs. Give them a shot

[@Will_Reyes4]

Slowing down every lift and focusing more on the stretch has worked for me the most.

[@Dlo831SC]

@@Will_Reyes4Absolutely brother, that’s all there is to it.

[@artemisia2002us]

Same here.

[@luizalex.7424]

15:57 Ignoring air resistance, classic teacher move!

[@yvyneath]

Hahahahahha

[@Ryush806]

“Assume the body builder is a sphere”

[@kuzev]

nah, air resistance works both ways

[@biggunsnum123]

​@@kuzevBut you're moving faster on the way up therefore adding additional resistance.

[@kuzev]

@@biggunsnum123 But for a shorter time :D

[@collinmeans8864]

I seriously can’t get enough of Dr. Mike. I’ve learned more from Dr Mike than I did in 5 years of public school weight lifting and working out with multiple people bigger than me. Nobody taught me as much as Dr Mike, and my gains are greater than they’ve ever been.

[@ericmalitz]

Not saying much. Nearly any of the current science based fitness influencers with at least some understanding of range of motion make years of mainstream gym culture archaic indeed.

[@OptimalGluteHypertrophy]

That’s great but Dr Mike is basically a bro scientist with half the stuff he says. Dumbbell pullovers are pretty shit for the Lats. Stretch mediated hypertrophy is very limited especially with a muscle like the Lats which has low activation at those joint angles. Also the whole thing about the “eccentric causing more growth than the concentric” might be one of the greatest misunderstandings of science ever. Yes, eccentric overload training will cause more growth than a regular set of concentric reps to failure, mainly because of the force velocity curve meaning more cross bridges will form on an eccentric contraction than concentric. But that’s only true for eccentric OVERLOAD, meaning you can’t do a concentric rep and the weight involuntarily is lowered. On a regular set, the eccentric is building pretty much no muscle because obviously there is very low mechanical tension if you are lowering a weight that you are able to lift 🤦‍♂️

[@collinmeans8864]

@ no offense or anything, but I generally take the advice of the guy who is putting his government name on the internet, his credentials are on every single video, he’s fugging enormous, and also has millions of subscribers, over the anonymous commenter on his video. I’m seeing gains better than I ever have from following Dr Mike’s advice. So I’ll stick with what I’m doing.

[@OptimalGluteHypertrophy]

@ ye that’s fair but what I’m saying is based on the scientific literature, it’s not a matter of just “who you believe”

[@Edge1234101]

Pull ups + Machine assisted pull ups followed by lat prayers have been a game changer for me. Couldn’t feel as good of a stretch doing pulldowns. This video confirmed my decisions, thanks Mike!

[@Drsavation]

And im confirming, your problem is other...

[@michaell3128]

​@@Drsavation wt do u mean sir

[@Caffeinated_Acrobat]

Love the machine-assisted pullups. Much better mind-muscle connection for me, especially with holds/partials at the top.

[@JMylesGardner]

Idk where this vid is going yet, but as someone with a weak back, im excited for it.

[@K-rypto]

Title?

[@ReizokoRyu]

Weak back reporting. I'm excited too

[@gariejoyce5263]

Saw it, it went no where, still better than pull ups

[@Kerithanos]

Pardon me! When did you get a weak back?

[@RealClintCapela]

Get ready to have it bent over and blown out 🤤🫡🫠

[@JohnPyle]

For years i thought i was broken or messed up for pull-down. Never worked for me the way the other exercises your mention do. Thank you for giving me the permission i needed to focus on what works for ME.

[@petesilva9648]

Saw the Jared shirt and failed to pay attention to what was being said lol

[@dankcik09]

jared without a mohawk might be better.

[@techariah]

Wait, he was talking?

[@kevinnistor1954]

Who? The shirt?​@@techariah

[@mzninja1862]

😂😂the J Feather shirt is kinda distracting, he’s talking but Im just starring at the shirt😂😂

[@claudvigilante]

@@dankcik09 That's not a mohawk. That's poop.

[@Mogsreturn]

This channel and more specifically the RP hypertrophy app has changed my life. I worked out for 2 or 3 years just trying to get in shape and I never had much to show for the effort. I've been using the RP hypertrophy app inconsistently for about a year and I have noticeable muscle growth (still working on losing weight), to the point that family has asked what I'm doing different and people I work with have started commenting on my physical strength (they ask me to move the heavy stuff). I'm not where I want to be but I'm a lot closer thanks to RP.

[@KelceyRichard-t1b]

Please make a whole series about your preferred exercises for all muscles similar to Jeff Nippard- I would watch the entire series for sure and I think it would benefit a lot of others too!

[@avgytuser_]

Dr. Mike! I'm doing my physics homework with you in the background and your whole thing about the frictional force of the machine absolutely blew my mind. I would love it if you made an introductory video about exercise biomechanics. I know most of your videos are about biomechanics in general but it would be awesome to have a more in depth lesson on it. You're the best and I love gooning to your voice!

[@LegDayEnjoyer-496]

the last paragraph 💀💀💀

[@ILoveWeightedPullups]

Looking forward to this. I don’t feel my lats getting cooked on the pulldowns the way I feel with weighted pull-ups.

[@claybowman1242]

Consider only doing pull-downs after pullups, when you're already fatigued the extra stability feels so good and let's you milk the last bit out of your lats.

[@juliano9566]

Well, but then again, you do love you some weighted pulled ups, Mr Loves Weighted Pullups.

[@tankissu954]

I saw so many comments about lat pulldowns feeling bad. They didn't get me sore too initially, but one day I saw this random reel that said to hold the bar in such a way that my knuckles are directly on top of the bar, and for some reason, I could instantly feel my lats working like never before. Been doing lat pulldowns ever since.

[@devindoesvidoes3677]

this works in a pullup too, just wrap your hand further over the bar and then as you relax into stretched your hand will automatically relax into the most tightened position for your lats

[@akiasura]

Been doing pull-ups for like 2 years now consistently. Can contest that they give the most pump on the back when done properly. A lot of people don’t go all the way down stretched and then they use their forearms to do most of the pulling and round their back at the top. Consider keeping elbows forward, back arched slightly, and squeeze the elbows to the lats when pulling up and then do as Dr. Mike says and engage your lats on the eccentric and go slow.

[@matiyolo3630]

visit channel KBoges on youtube and you will see what you can do with just basic calisthenics. no bullshit no 40 min videos just straight facts

[@scotchandsquats]

Honestly, once I learned not to use my biceps/forearms even at full ROM was using my arms; and started to use lats, etc to pull myself up, I have a lot better mind muscle connection.

[@Chibears1523]

Wtf is the eccentric? Lol

[@scotchandsquats]

@@Chibears1523 The eccentric portion of a strength training exercise is when the muscle group you're working out is being lengthened despite exerting force versus concentric where the working muscles are shortening

[@999rocky6]

i tried those prayers a couple weeks ago, gotta say i was impressed by the way it just rips your back apart

[@7Karl1Hungus0]

That’s what I end my back days with and it always fucks my shit up (in the best way possible). Jarrod does a good video with Nick Walker and Tristen explaining how to do em as proper as possible

[@autobface]

I tried prayers the day after this video came out and I'm definitely using them to end my back days now. The stretch is amazing.

[@peterblum613]

This is why I watch Mike (not just for the jokes). I’ve lifted off and on for almost 50 years and never did lat prayers until I saw Mike doing them. Wow they feel great.

[@dethbefodisco3221]

I am 54 years old I have been working out since April. 2 years prior I lost over a hundred pounds I've never been able to do a pull-up I just started doing them I'm able to get three the first set 2 it's actually really awesome. I like being the old guy that can do pull-ups

[@MenacedAssassin]

54 is not old.. 84 is old

[@DaughterDater]

Hell yeah. In my opinion, the best muscle stretch is on my lats doing pull ups to failure

[@rizmark5522]

58 and doing same

[@prod.bygygahurts304]

This comes at a good time, my pulldowns have been getting stale for a bit. Appreciate it mike 🫡

[@moist603]

Same, my shoulders and biceps get cooked trying to control the negative. Been considering replacing them with prayers but I might give assisted pull ups a go.

[@SnarfsBalls]

@@moist603I just got strong enough to do 5x3 unassisted pull ups. I’ve gotten visibly bigger in 3 weeks of switching out pull downs. You should definitely switch

[@altname4742]

This video came on the right time! Been wanting to switch my pulldowns for something more taxing on the lats and less on the biceps

[@mrsonicsound160]

This video is so spot on. I wasted years doing pulldowns and wondering why my lats werent developed. If anyones curious, I started doing cat back dumbell d/l's a while back with really great results

[@RonnieJamesOsbourne]

10:38 The; "Unless You Fuck The Bar On Its Way In" part had me rolling 💀

[@Mr.GitOps]

What about single hand kneeling lat pulldowns. Where you cause a bigger stretch by leaning to the side as you go up and leaning in as you contract. I never see you mention it in any of your lat series. To me, it was the best lat exercise in my toolbelt that hits all the metrics you list of having a deep stretch & being harder at the stretch. The stretch was even deeper because of the oblique lean to the side than any two handed exercises for the lats. It gave me the best mind muscle connection which I lacked for so long with assisted pull ups, prayers and lat pulldowns. It helped pave my way to doing pull ups as my main. For this reason I still use it even with pull ups being my main as I cant get that same stretch on the lats with any other exercise.

[@adityaverma9265]

The way you address lat pull down problem is very geniune, idk other youtuber try to emphasize to do full range of motion but they forget how light the weights are when you do full range of motion in that, I find pull ups more effective than that, as I light weight person and basic calisthenics skill that's much more better option for me. But Thanks to Mike for atleast being honest with the problem of Lat pulldown and addressing it to us

[@nedrezap3379]

You mean “as a small person” pull-ups are better for me

[@HerneyReyesGutierrez-oq8ef]

Literally i conclued this yesterday, if we stretch and flex very well the muscle with a very good rythm of movement our back will grow like a monster

[@Solairethedarksoul]

The hammer strength high row is amazing.

[@ricklathem4210]

I used assist pull ups to get to pull ups, and soon after stop doing the lat pull downs. Its been years now for both exersices. My pullups are very good. I will explore adding them both back into program. This was spot on timing. Thanks

[@RevereShin]

I came to a similar conclusion after about 2 years of alternating between assisted pullups and lat pulldowns for my primary lat exercise, but I could never put it into words. This helped tremendously. Thank you, Dr. Mike.

[@kramhy252]

Dr.mike explaining what i have been thinking for a year now, about the advantages of SA pulldowns over pulldowns. Thank you dr.mike for existing. RP nerds

[@spoilerman8975]

This is excellent. And I know this to be true.With over forty years of experience I have learned the truth. Mike is absolutely correct on these.

[@SWISS-1337]

Love this advice, I recently got rid of lat pull downs in favour of laying down banded pull overs, pull ups and assisted pull ups. I'd purchase the RP monthly membership, but I am paying a lot of debt off from medical related expenses, so maybe in 1 year when I finally should have paid it back lol

[@malmonti]

Hype for this as my current meso is ending and excited to try something new hopefully.

[@G3ML1NGZ]

No idea of this reaches you but THANK YOU. I've been seeing improvements in both comfort while training and seeing new pr's after being pretty much plateau'd for years. Going back to slowly loading hams to eliminate suboptimal loading of hams during larger exercises (deads/squats.) Lat activation by doing partial scapula tensions reps before pulls has done a lot to help my uneven tension during pull exercises and emphasis on slowly unloading every rep and feeling the stretch is helping me grow more and feel the muscle better. Watching your vids revitalised my gym progress

[@jrussino]

9:15 I was worried this was going to be the recommendation. For whatever reason I find I don't get a great stimulus on the target muscle with bent-over exercises like this. My back/hips/core/whatever is doing too much work trying to keep me stable in that position, and so those stabilizing muscles end up being the limiting factor. I have the same issue with bent-over rows.

[@jjtt2760]

Thanks Dr. Mike. Your videos have really been helping me the past year.

[@iamraymondyip]

“I love you but I’m not ‘in love’ with you if you know what I mean..?” That’s it, video of the year. 😂 20:57

[@epsilon2fye]

I’m so grateful this video came out today on my back and bis day. Last week doing pull downs I felt stale just as explained and it didn’t feel good. The SFR on that was probably the worst I’ve felt before. I’ve been doing prayers with single arm and both arms for a while, but im going to make this my more used exercise

[@TheMamed]

Like a good father, Mike always support's his son❤❤❤

[@omgvulpix]

muscle growth for the form for pullups was so helpful. thank you Dr. Mike!!

[@RaijinSeme]

I started working out a month ago and for some reason lat pulldowns don't feel right for me and this video just came out of nowhere! thank you dr mike

[@Indriyal]

It’s so nice to see a father that is so proud of his son that he’s wearing a T-shirt with his name and picture on it !

[@johnstevens5722]

I do my DB pullovers perpendicular on the bench in a slight decline. Using this variation gives me not only an insane pump on the lats, but also my inner pecs It is my absolute #1 exercise. If I stopped doing ever other movement, I would do these

[@sancamilobad]

The stretch with the decline is unmatched

[@blackrhino44]

How do you get this into a decline?

[@Aili-kx3kj]

​@@blackrhino44 plate under bench

[@AKarcticmallard]

That feeling when you're already doing everything Dr. Mike is saying AND today was back day. 💪

[@irfuel]

There is always one under every video, LOOL

[@kharma6310]

Please please please Dr.Mike, I speak for everyone when I ask please next time you do lat prayers put the camera behind you (oil up (optional))

[@kartikayrai5774]

Oil up is necessary

[@acc2mdk1]

Ignorant question... What is this oil up quote about ? (What does it mean)

[@kharma6310]

@@acc2mdk1 It's a kink that us, full ROM, slow eccentric, lengthened partial chads have. Wanting to see Dr.Mike shirtless covered in oil. Doesn't get more manly than that.

[@alaaentabi7879]

@@acc2mdk1 social nmedia trend where fans asked jacked ppl to oil up and do some moves

[@leobaron9417]

​@@acc2mdk1 there's an old video explaining it, check "darude sandstorm"

[@elie_d7334]

i used to do wide and narrow grip pulldowns on back day. but ever since i started to do pullups instead of wide grip pulldowns with noarrow grip pulldowns i've been noticing impressive gains in my back. very happy. been only 2 months on this program.

[@cjlewis5455]

Solid straightforward advice 💯💪🦸‍♂️

[@StayCURIOUSWithUs]

My new favourite go-2-channel for training.

[@PrincessDogeBRUH]

I’ve been working on controlling my shoulder blades a lot more and it has made all the difference in my back training. I didn’t even realize my shoulder blades were barely moving at all. Hopefully this helps someone like me

[@Blaisem]

What are you doing with the shoulder blades?

[@PrincessDogeBRUH]

@@Blaisem just actually moving them, may seem common sense (it is) but my shoulders tend to stay totally stiff unless I consciously warm them up and rotate them.

[@Owensontchi17]

@@Blaisempretty sure he means at the stretch roll shoulders forward and when pulling move shoulders back by retracting scapula.

[@nationiron]

Hi Dr Mike, how do you rate the pullover machine? The one Dorian Yates used to use…

[@normd81]

Dumbbell pullovers are the single most underrated exercise in existence. John Meadows got me into a few years ago, absolutely destroy my lats.

[@lovelybtches]

decent lengthened stretch horrible contraction. i prefer doing laying pullovers on cable

[@Johnpdf]

They arent a lat exercise they are a chest exercise, chest has far more leverage to produce force also gets stretched etc its a chest exercise with lat assistance

[@normd81]

​@@Johnpdfkeep arms straight and don't squeeze the dumbell. There are multiple variables include body shape. I'm not interested in arguing, I've growth my lats exclusively from this movement. I don't do seated pulldowns. I know it works.

[@Li0nHearted]

I just added lat prayers to my program because I got tired of pull downs!! So happy to see this in a video confirming what I’m doing is right

[@MariaTyler-gj1ll]

You always know how to make good content!

[@matthewlock888]

Glad you’ve expanded on this because you mentioned them on your exercise choice video the other day

[@sandwichdispenser6778]

I've started doing stretch emphasis single arm pulldowns recently and it's absolutely amazing

[@benjscar1540]

I've been trying to quantify cable Friction my entire life: thank you for finally contextualizing this 🙌

[@DeBedschbacher]

Thanks Doc!

[@bryantwright6234]

Now that’s how you explain a recipe, best on KZbin

[@Annamihajlova551ko-nt2bd]

You're so talented, don't stop creating videos!

[@BaronLaneKing]

😂

[@BaronLaneKing]

hypertrophy bots

[@drsselvidge]

Great video! Would love to see something similar for leg extensions particularly for home gym with limited machines.

[@andrewramirez3332]

that’s an amazing shirt

[@albertgao7256]

5min in, not even finish watching, I can feel DOMS on my back already!!! Wonderful! Really great recommendation! Thanks Dr.Mike!

[@dabj9546]

Why is nobody doing pullovers with a cable and an incline bench facing away from the cable? Seems like the kinda perfect exercise Eric Janecki would do.

[@silverjackaI]

I actually have a ez curl bar with my functional trainer. Definitely gonna give it a try today.

[@dabj9546]

@@silverjackaI Awesome! Please let me know if you like it, I totally made this up so I have no idea about actual use.

[@silverjackaI]

@@dabj9546 i hated it lol I stuck with pull ups and lat prayers instead. Let me know what you think when you try it

[@dabj9546]

@@silverjackaI alright sometimes that's how it goes...

[@todd7696]

I think your head/bench would get in the way at the top of the lift no matter the position. Maybe could work.

[@nyty6032]

15:32 i dont understand how friction can act in the same direction and help the motion, i mean frictional force always opposes the motion, right? can someone please explain

[@joelortizjimenez1057]

Kanye west

[@DoomCookie]

You’re right about friction always counteracting the motion. And that’s exactly why there is a difference between the concentric and eccentric motion, the motions have different directions. You just have to look how the forces apply. On the concentric you pull the weight stack up against gravity and the friction of the machine. You have to overcome both forces to get the stack moving in the direction you’re pulling. On the eccentric the gravitational force is pulling the weight down against you resisting the weight going down and the friction of the machine. So the force you put in while resisting the weight going down has to be lower than when you pull the weight up. Otherwise the weight stack would not be moving down but up.

[@nyty6032]

@@DoomCookie thanks brother, got it

[@shattered2137]

Pullovers are fking amazing, they are as good tricpes exercise as lats exercise for me' depending on how I perform them. Great stimulus fatigue ratio, always get my muscles sore after. Nothing but good stuff I can say about this exercise.

[@ZinoAmare]

I did the pullovers yesterday and yeah I am feeling my back real good, thank you :D

[@alpenjodel24]

Lat Prayers and Pullovers are always limited by my Triceps tho.

[@Randomunsername]

Try going for a pronated grip on the prayers. Using a straight bar, for example. It won't be no Triceps. I don't think you can exclude the long head entirely. It should get those other two heads out of the picture though, so long as you avoid any elbow flexion throughout.

[@claybowman1242]

Consider using bent arms and just keeping them bent the whole time, you'll need a little more weight but your triceps probably won't be what gives out

[@SickplayaM]

Try to bend your arm a bit more.

[@lesliedsouza929]

Your timing is impeccable Dr. Mike. I was just wondering whether I should really do Pulldowns instead of other variations. I’ve never really been a fan of the exercise if I’m honest! 😊

[@dafundz4108]

Going to gym in 40mins, planned some lat pulldowns for wider back, then this shows up in my notifications. The universe is speaking to me 😂

[@luispapeleira8791]

I was young 15 years old 2008 and already workout, and even without these informtions pull- overs always was one of my favourites, e feel good with the movement, defenitly real challenging at the stretched part, and without knowing i was trying to stretched at my max, even touch the dumbell in the ground eventually and i say it was the most noticeble lats improvment exercise with pull ups and dumbell rows with suported chest for me! Always learning more

[@ephraim1995]

I love doing dumbell pullovers on a very slight incline for even more stretch!

[@kamranhussain3159]

Have you tried laying your shoulders across the bench and lowering your hips when at the bottom? Insane stretch.

[@crostermiller]

Would a slight decline give the back a better stimulus? Doesn't the higher the incline target the back less?

[@ephraim1995]

@kamranhussain3159 yes I love doing that

[@Zachafinackus]

I hope that the lat prayer can be added to the RP down the line! I went to replace one of my pulldown sets and saw it wasn't there, so I had to make it a custom exercise. Thanks for all the work you do!

[@isak737]

00:32 liam payne was there

[@SoySolSolecito]

Crazyyy comment 💀

[@isak737]

@@SoySolSolecitohow

[@newyorknole2225]

This video made me feel really good about my back workout. I do all those lifts during my back day and I'll sometime cut out Lat pull downs entirely. Thank Mike!

[@maximolopardo]

I used to do lat prayers but idk why always my triceps get engaged a lot and that does not help me to really focus on my back

[@adityanair8670]

The long head of the triceps is under a lot of tension during lat prayers. Some cues that could help are : 1. Keep the hand position straight or with slight bend and maintain that throughout the motion. 2. During the stretch position, pull back for more stretch, during the opposite position, move up a bit to emphasize the lat contraction

[@spiritusanto9688]

Always a learning and informative experience as well entertaining. Thank you for all that you do especially the amount research that has to be done it's greatly appreciated and has helped me a lot with my progress.

[@wellscraft]

Lat prayers hit my triceps long head as much if not more than my lats. I've tried various grips. It never changes.

[@chrisoman87]

The primary function of the long head is to pull the elbow "down" to your side so this makes sense, it is probably weaker than your lats due to the size imbalance, I would be surprised this would not be the case for a pulldown as well, as the mechanism is the same. I would say the difference would be your grip-width and amount of pronation/supination compared to the pulldowns. Try varying the grip to find a way that the leverage of your lats is worse so it becomes the primary driver.

[@soots-stayingoutofthespotl5495]

Are you keeping your arms absolutely straight on the swimmer rows/ straight-arm pulldowns? Even a slight bend starts to turn it into a Tricep pushdown. Perhaps you'll find it easier to emphasise your back by using a bar instead of a rope (either a short one or the Lat pulldown bar, the latter making the exercise easier), and/or leaning over more and pulling down so that your arms stop when they're vertical, and not pulling all the way to your thighs. It might be worth experimenting a bit more?

[@andytheguitarist472]

Just came back from the gym with this frustrating feeling that im not doing my lat pulldowns correct and im not getting any real progress from this exercise, so this is just pefect!

[@esembee7717]

I'm a big fan of lat prayers. It took a bit of playing around with form, attachments and grip to stop the triceps being the limiting factor, but now they are a staple lat exercise for me.

[@sarahkramer8954]

Very helpful. My personal trainer prescribes pull-ups and pull-downs in the same workout, which didn't make sense to me. You've helped me understand why it's important to do both. (For context, this is a woman being trained by a woman, so the emphasis is more on toning and endurance rather than bulking).

[@comingverysoon]

Pullups and straight-arm pulldowns are a dynamic duo for my lats. I might give pullovers a try after watching this. I've never seen the movement broken down and explained so thoroughly.

[@harrydennis6854]

This is next level for getting high tension at long muscle lengths. You should do more of these for other muscles!

[@TheNoddyone]

Good video. Would appreciate a demonstration on the side as you describe the exercise to better get an understanding how it should look.

[@mikameininki8465]

My man (and everyone involved), thanks for all the motivation and the push to grind. Add little teasers to the parts where you show a movement as (as seen in App) ;) All the best, hope to meet you in person one day

[@mikameininki8465]

All the best for Jared in the grind as well. This sport needs a lot of motivation to keep in track. Best wishes from Finland

[@neeeriooo]

This vid is so frkn awesome. I find pull downs such a waste of time coz I rarely feel anything in my back and my forearms give out before I feel anything in my back (because slowing down on the eccentric strains my forearms a lot regardless of grip). This is precisely the reason I've been doing rows and single lat pulls since I can feel my back better. I'll be trying the alternatives from the vid and see if these do wonders.

[@nerdexproject]

Perfect video! Really needed this bc lat pulldowns are really doing nothing for my lats for some reason

[@MikkasMusic]

Great video, Mike! Just planned my new program for the next couple of months, and wanted to do pulldowns because they are a “bread and butter” exercise but they have never really been my favorite and you made me realize why - it’s because they suck the ever living shit out of you at that bottom part. The energy consumption for that last bottom part is simply not worth it. I’ve been doing assisted pull-ups before and not only do they not fatigue you like pulldowns do, I get a way better contraction in the lats.

[@GOAT-rl2uq]

See this gels with my personal experience. No matter what I do, I can't seem to get much of a pump or really even sore from rows or pulldowns, but pullovers and lat prayers just absolutely slaughter my lats.

[@allenallen4810]

Damn Dr. Mike…this was OUTSTANDING!!!! Please do one for DB Rows.

[@erickestrada1212]

Ive learned alot on this channel. Do these lat prayers on a incline bench on cables and its amazing. Gets a better stretch amd better mind to muscle connection. 100 percent recommend these instead of the pullovers and lat prayers

[@Hashama]

Scott the video guy is a LEGEND!

[@Ultraw]

Interesting about friction helping you with the eccentric on machines Never thought about it like that

[@stefanpotberg-oy7jv]

Hey Dr. Mike how about a video on bodybuilding Poses and how to properly do them

[@chonkbadonk]

I'm a swimmer and I do like a single arm lat prayer with a little bit of upper body rotation through the movement, feels like it's good for building power on freestyle.

[@williammoore1980]

Years ago I randomly got an idea to cross my grip over for the V-bar lat pulldown. Feel it all the way into the serratus. No data behind it that I know of, but it worked well.

[@oscar0346]

This is the information I needed to start lat prayers, thanks Dr.

[@JakeLetson]

I recently added lat prayers to my routine... I get more stimulus from an 80 pound prayer than I do full stacking the pulldowns. So glad to see my choice to add them justified by Dr. Mike!

[@michaelswanepoel7706]

Thank you for this!!! Still quite new to bodybuilding, but I've not had great experiences on the lat pull down machines, seems to always hit my biceps instead of my back I've tried different positions on the grip, different versions of the machine, no dice Did one set on an isolated row machine and felt immediate muscle stimulus

[@kendaddy316]

Dr Mike is who Michael Chiklis prays to be one day. Thanks for the great suggestions!

[@jellistorfs6525]

Phenomenal head shape as usual. Also great video :)

[@ryanmahoney1672]

Lat prayers is an exercise I kind of discovered on my own (at the time thought I was "making it up") and makes a lot of sense and always feels good. It's nice and validating to see people recommending this - confirms I was on the right track even though I didn't really know what I was doing. Similarly, what about a movement where you do each arm independently, and pull down to the SIDE instead of front? basically like the reverse of a dumbbell lateral raise, where you take a pulley and pull down to the side toward your waist with a straight arm - like a jumping jack type movement with your arms but with weight? I've felt like this is even more of a pure lat (and maybe some oblique) isolation, and is a nice way to hit that muscle from the side at a different angle to mix things up and something that requires a little less weight to get good activation. Haven't gone looking for it but can't say I've ever seen anyone doing this. Is this a thing?

[@MrSakoolig]

Thank you, Doc for another awesome and entertaining video.