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[@doneyhon4227]

The Talisman looks impressive. A bit like a french mercedes. Renault really did a great job.

[@g00dfeeling]

For me Talisman is much more appealing than Passat, Mazda 6 or Skoda Superb. I think new Insignia will be real competitor as Opel will definitely continue with approach introduced with new Astra.

[@XQUADRA1]

wow that purple i never knew i could like a purple car this color is amazing on this car good review

[@JDYTC]

I have learnt a long time ago that color completely depends on the model. Indeed purple is one of the best colors for the Talisman in my humble opinion. Very few cars look good in purple. A long time ago the BMW E34 5-series sedan and the Volvo 940/960 Estate looked great in purple too (while the E34 Touring or the E38 7-series looked best in silver).

[@amariamg9538]

funny blooper at 5:50 :) i really understand its just so hard for you guys to make videos every day as u showed us in ur seat ibiza video

[@autogefuehl]

+Amari Amg =) always a pleasure !

[@amariamg9538]

:)

[@atillaadn]

I am a fan of your channel, thank you so much for your wonderful works; I would like to ask you what you think of the high speed handling characteristics of passat, I recently purchased a B8, is it a nice handling/stable car for 170km+ highway speeds. Best regards

[@TheEddy1122]

What a wonderful review, really appreciate that you guys took your time to produce an excellent review on this car, which gives us more a perspective on how the car is positioned in the segment :)

[@autogefuehl]

+Edgar Chambon wanted to achieve exactly that, thanks =)

[@sanelbilalic3485]

You are doing a very good job at reviewing cars.One of the best, keep up the good work.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks, stay with us!

[@vlahunter]

Another great video man.Bravooo!I like the fact that although you are german you look and inspect every car individually and objectively.Now about the new renault talisman.Renault has learned the lessons from the previous sedan,Laguna,and made a whole new car from the bottom up to meet the new design signature.Great job,i hope it goes well so we ll have more of such a great manufacturer like Renault.And great job from you also man.

[@autogefuehl]

+vlahunter thanks really appreicated!

[@lasacp]

I gave a big hahahahahahaha on that missing cut edition. Excelent work Thomas, a guy is good at something everithing is a plus, even a missing edition cut.

[@autogefuehl]

+Pedro Casal haha =) at least it was useful for something then =)

[@Milen4u]

The 4control was available for Laguna GT trim as well. Now they market it better for sure.

[@Gerwet555]

The most germanly english review i ever heard/seen. But job was done well ! :)

[@raulbarsan8582]

This car is beautiful. And amazing review!

[@autogefuehl]

thanks raul!

[@raulbarsan8582]

No,we thank you! Thanks to your reviews i bought a Ford Mondeo,diesel.Very happy with it. All the best!

[@almusawyyousef6710]

the talisman more elegant from the exterior and the system 4×4 steering make it a best choice. it was a wonderful review thank you Thomas.

[@autogefuehl]

+Almusawy Yousef thanks yousef always great to hear!

[@amariamg9538]

great video as usual keep up the good work

[@autogefuehl]

+Amari Amg *clap clap*

[@amariamg9538]

yeahh!!!

[@ZacGolus]

Such a beautiful car :D Great video!

[@autogefuehl]

+Zac Golus thx!

[@V.D.22]

One of the best comparisons....and I have seen a lot. Congratulations and thank you! You helped me chose mynext car. However, your pronunciation is very difficult to understand, even with the subtitles. Maybe you can work on this a little. But the review is amazingly detailed. Thanks!

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks!

[@gibraltarik]

I've been thinking about replacing my Megane for some time now, but I wasn't sure if I wanted to stay with Renault, stay French (Peugeot) or go Japanese (Mazda) so you can imagine I have been looking forward to this review tremendously ever since I first laid eyes on the Talisman and, as usual, you have delivered an excellent review. I'll give Renault a year or two so they can iron out the usual creases that come with first model year vehicles, but I reckon I will stay with the lozenge. All that is left is a test drive and a chat with finance, so well done and thank you Thomas!

[@autogefuehl]

+Tarik El-Yabani thanks Tarik and interesting thoughts!

[@Gkoulidis]

Hello Thomas, great review as always. Just wondering....in case ESP is off is it easier to control the over steer? I mean with the 4 wheel steering and all.

[@autogefuehl]

+Gkoulidis hey, thanks! Good question. Didnt try that in those slippery conditions

[@amariamg9538]

tuning in again ;)

[@dariuszciesielski5104]

Talisman is more sporty and modern inside, Passat inside quite similar to the old model ... but the most important ... Thomas the review again and again is excellent !!! ... just the prices for dreams ..;)

[@autogefuehl]

+Dariusz Ciesielski thx dariusz!

[@bostjanredek8250]

very good review, very beautiful car, bravo Renault and Thomas .

[@autogefuehl]

+redek boštjan mille grazie!

[@bostjanredek8250]

+Autogefühl Greetings from Slovenija and happy holidays

[@autogefuehl]

+redek boštjan u too!

[@etson84]

The most wanted car review ever!! I am from South Korea and we have a car manufacturer called Renalut Samsung which basically produces the existing Renault cars with some modifications to fit the Korean market. This Talisman is going to be released in Korea next year and it is really drawing lots of attention because this is like the first all-new car in E segment in nearly a decade in Renault Samsung. Thank you again for your review!! I'm writing this comment before watching your review because I am so happy :)!

[@autogefuehl]

+Ji Sun Son very interesting with the korean market! thanks !!

[@Darkhoof]

+Ji Sun Son This car will be a D-segment, not E. Unless the segments are classified differently over there in Korea.

[@etson84]

@Darkhoof Thank you! Talisman is going to be released as SM6 as a more prestigious model with SM5 with more affordable price range car, based on Nissan Latitude. The two cars are basically of the similar size. I personally think it's better to replace the existing SM5 model with Talisman as the new SM5. It seems like it's not going to be the case.

[@petrovicdruid]

Great reiew like always :) But i think the Initiale Paris model have better sound isoulation, you should have tested that one for sound isolation.

[@autogefuehl]

+petrovicdruid wasnt available for driving but i ll try to test that at a later stage

[@worldolivier]

I really love the design of this talisman ! Very class and strong design. But the interior materials could be more high class definitely

[@mertgoktugdedeoglu236]

Thanks for the review Thomas. Even if Passat is a better car, I would go for Talisman, it is a stunner.

[@autogefuehl]

+Mert Göktuğ Dedeoğlu interesting!

[@mertgoktugdedeoglu236]

+Autogefühl Because I Don't trust VW because of Dieselgate and DSG problems.

[@JasZg]

@@mertgoktugdedeoglu236 Who can trust Germans? Mercedes calling themselves" the best or nothing "and they didn't even put anticorrosion metal protection in c klasse...

[@MrVictoor24]

brilliand video info :) thanks @autogefùhl :) the detailed information is 110% :)

[@autogefuehl]

+MrVictoor24 thanks man !

[@drifterz2578]

im VW fan but the purple talisman looks so good . way better then the passat

[@gbriank1]

Thomas, I agree with you on the exterior. It is spot on with the flowing lines and agressive front end. I especially like the rear doors that make for easier entrance and exit, plus the huge trunk is a great bonus. The interior is nice but needs a few more changes. Renault could look to the Passat and the Skoda Superb. The fold near flat passenger seat might make it easler to carry long cargo.

[@autogefuehl]

+gbriank1 sounds reasonable!

[@miiv7305]

You should also count in price comparison between these two when you talk about premium feeling ,nice review overall ...

[@autogefuehl]

+Miran Iv Have you seen the whole video? I talked about that :)

[@neohideo]

great looking car! Talisman looks better than Passat! and this stylish Initiale Paris logo

[@thruthegalaxy6660]

Renault Talisman look more nicer than passat and is more safe with environment. And 4control really imprest me, in the city is very healpful.

[@NielsGambino]

The ' secret' place in the renault talisman when you go under the mid console is a cooler. For a bottle of something else. Like a little fridge.

[@artemusje2]

Excellent review! Also a good idea to bring the Passat. I really like the look of the Talisman, inside and out. But as you pointed out, there are quite a few details in the interior that seem to let it down a bit. The digital dashboard, for example, looks a bit too 'simple' for my taste. I think it's ok for a Megane, but in this segment it should be a bit more refined. And those things would probably start to bother me after a while. I can really appreciate a really high quality interior.. Those seats seem to be very comfy though, and especially the multi-colored ones (white at the top, black at the bottom) really look great. And again this interesting four wheel steering. For those who would not be troubled by the details in the interior this would be a great choice.

[@autogefuehl]

+artemusje2 good points!

[@toXXic1975]

+legioner9 Correct, all VW look quite the same. But when comparing the Talisman to the new model of the Megane, one has to state that this now also applies to Renault. Just that Renault looks better. ;-) VW is definitely not a poor people brand, as they are more expensive. I'd say it's a brand for conservative people with too much money. ^^

[@toXXic1975]

***** I had better inserted "any more". ;-) They started with really affordable, but reliable cars in the past, therefore the name Volkswagen (~ everybody's car). But nowadays they're only trying to compete with premium manufacturers and the prices make the name Volkswagen pretty ridiculous.

[@toXXic1975]

Well, I never had a VW myself, so I cannot say much about the quality and have to believe reviews and reports. I don't like the look of them, I don't like the prices and I don't like the hype around them. But I'm no hater. They sell good, so they seem to do it right after all. Just that I don't fit in their peer group. My first car was a Renault R5, and I had much trouble with it. After some other cars, I bought a second hand Laguna (still driving it) and initially thought "Oh my, was this a good idea?" - and it was! Ok, the interior was a bit cheap in terms of materials (2008 model), but it was strong, agile, very comfortable and also reliable. So I know that modern Renault have good quality, and as I like the design, I will hold on to them with the Talisman soon.

[@loverichardson9954]

+Autogefühl will you do a review with the Talisman Sports Tourer?

[@autogefuehl]

+Love Richardson hey, basically everything from this review also accounts for the Grandtour. The loading compartment you can see here in this static review we did before this one here, as there, we also had a Grandtour estate on stage: kzbin.info/www/bejne/goecg4NpoL-lhJI

[@redhamasri]

to all of you out there who thinks that Renault got reliability issue, I am driving a Renault Laguna coupe gt 4 control since almost 5 years by now. Let me tell you I had zero problems with that car. And its 2010 model.

[@pitthepig]

I like a bit of faux leather in the doors as the talisman has, also I'm not convinced, aesthetically, about the passat seats with that two colour cloth solution. It's like they're are trying to imitate the look of the seats with cloth and leather but in a cheaper way. Regardless, I agree in what you said that the passat has a true premium feeling.

[@alexpopescu7352]

Both cars are not premium. Renault in the Initial Paris version, is better than any Passat. Renault Initial Paris is like premium, and cheaper than others. And Talisman looks very very well.

[@SteveGisthebest80]

interior quality of this talisman reminds me of my 2007 passat so renault is clearly years behind others in quality materials. A lot of plastic that eventualy will drive you mad. Exterior i like, its beatifull looking car but i would choose passat any day of the week.

[@Johnyjohny-os9cj]

SteveGisthebest80 same!

[@victorbalan8992]

For me Talisman looks more premium comparative with Passat also at the interior and exterior

[@kraenk12]

+Victor Balan are you french?!

[@Kerveros1904]

+kraenk12 are you german ?

[@eggbirdtherooster]

Get yourself a glasses, idiot

[@Kerveros1904]

+eggbirdtherooster 8-D

[@victorbalan8992]

noobs

[@edwardgeorge4881]

It's a great name!

[@illuvatar87]

Great analysis Thomas. Have you used the Talisman's navigation system at all? How does it compare to the VW navigation, which I find very intuitive. Currently deciding between a top trim Passat or Talisman, or a more basic A4 or 3-series. Can't make up my mind ;-)

[@autogefuehl]

+illuvatar87 the gps has quite ok reaction times, however the Volkswagen sat nav is the best atm as it is the most intuitive one

[@milangrozdanic3121]

+Autogefühl I wouldn't agree on that. The best nav for mainstream cars is, in my opinion, FCA's(works very well in my Giulietta QV). There are also quite a few reasons not to buy VW (DIESELGATE, DSG problems and so on). My choice in this class would be Mazda6 for mainstream and Alfa Romeo Giulia for premium. Any 500x tests soon?

[@illuvatar87]

Well, we can't say anything yet about the quality of the Guilia obviously, besides it's nice looks. And 'Dieselgate' or 'DSG problems' have nothing to do with VW's navigation system.

[@milangrozdanic3121]

Yes, you're right but VW's nav system is not intuitive at all and this is not only my opinion (take a look at some American reviews). Dieselgate and poor reliability are just a reason more for me to never even consider VW Group product(Except PORSCHE, Lamborghini, BENTLEY, DUCAATI and BUGATTI of course).

[@TheMiguelberghs]

Very nice review as always! As an owner of a Laguna (the Initiale version) I can say that it is very agile and surprisingly sporty although the sound insulation, the refinement and the quality of the materials are very poor. If I had to choose one of them I would choose the Passat. Well, that's why I own a Passat B8 ;).

[@autogefuehl]

+Miguel Berghs LOL so you own both or just kidding with the 1st? ;)

[@TheMiguelberghs]

+Autogefühl I actually own a Laguna, and this year the company I work for just gave me the Passat B8 so yes, I own both :)

[@autogefuehl]

+Miguel Berghs excellent =)

[@stamy74]

Talisman's both exterior and interior design looks way better. It really attracts the eyes within seconds while on the other hand Passat is too conservative, which of course may appeal better to certain people. In general I think that Passat has lost the game from within VW group. Skoda Superb is bigger, more handsome and cheaper to buy, without any compromise in quality or refinement. From all these 3, I would choose the Superb anytime.

[@arnaudsurribas2963]

I'd say the Talisman has a better design in most of the aspect, (front, back, seats, materials and fluid lines) exept for the central console which way is classier in the Passat, and more harmonious.

[@Darkhoof]

I really liked the exterior of the Talisman a lot more compared to the Passat. The seats in the video also seem way nicer. But the centre console should've been worked on a lot more. It's a pity because the rest of the interior looks really high class but the centre console makes the interior seem like something from an inferior segment.

[@alliancemad]

shame we are not getting this in the uk it looks awesome and would have defo been on my list for next car

[@autogefuehl]

+Ro W indeed they decided not to introduce it in the UK :/

[@alliancemad]

I like the passat aswell and no doubt overall it is the better car but the talisman has flair adn is just different, which i like

[@DriveSpot]

I actually like the Passat a bit more but if I could get a Talisman much cheaper than i would take it also. Its not a bad car in my opinion.

[@z3royal31]

I have a Renault Talisman!I love it!

[@autogefuehl]

enjoy !

[@noskyimo319]

I've been thinking if I should avoid bmw 3er and c200 Mercedes and go for renault talisman or Ford mondeo. I'm really confused

[@yakopsky1]

1:11 How did you clean the car WTF

[@toXXic1975]

Hallo, Thomas! Ich habe den Talisman als Initiale Paris Diesel probegefahren (und auch bestellt) und kann deine Eindrücke absolut bestätigen. Allen Interessenten kann ich übrigens mitteilen, dass sich auch der Diesel überaus gut macht und Vielfahrer ihn als Alternative zum von dir favorisierten Benziner zumindest in Betracht ziehen sollten. Man kann Renault zu diesem Fahrzeug wirklich nur gratulieren und mehr Erfolg wünschen als mit dem Laguna, der meiner Meinung nach zu Unrecht bei uns gefloppt ist - wir hatten mit ihm ein durchzugsstarkes, haltbares, sparsames, komfortables und trotzdem agiles Auto. Mit dem Talisman macht Renault nochmal einen ordentlichen Sprung nach vorne. Mit der Allradlenkung einen Kreisverkehr zu durchqueren, ist schon ein Erlebnis! Dass die Lane Assist nur passiv ist, stört mich persönlich nicht. Ich glaube, aktiv würde es mich sogar manchmal nerven, z.B. wenn ich ein Fahrrad überholen möchte und mich der Mittellinie nähere (nicht überquere und evtl. den Blinker daher nicht setze), und dann lenkt mir die Software dazwischen. Die Gesamtausstattung ist für den Preis enorm und das Design deutlich spektakulärer als das der Konkurrenz. Was ich (nebenbei) seltsam finde, ist die Konfiguration, in der das Fahrzeug auf Lager produziert und als Vorführfahrzeug verteilt wurde. Fast immer mit halbautomatischem Parken, aber fast nie mit dem ADAPTIVEN Tempomat (der weniger kostet). Letzteren finde ich extrem nützlich, wenn man auf der Autobahn nicht ständig die Zielgeschwindigkeit korrigieren oder gar abbremsen will. Den Parkassistenten werde ich nur selten brauchen, weil er sich auch ziemlich dumm anstellt. Auf einem praktisch leeren Parkplatz mit queren Nischen ist er so lange weitergefahren, bis er doch ein Auto gefunden hat, neben das er sich so eng quetschen konnte, dass der Beifahrer nicht rauskam. ^^

[@autogefuehl]

+Stephan Brauckmann Vielen Dank für das Feedback, sehr interessant!

[@V10PDTDI]

Hi Thomas was the purple car a pre production ? I know you don't like leather seats in cars but what about leather shoes and belt I know that it's rare now to get a 100 % real leather interior I too like a good quality fabric seats they are more comfortable and don't crack .

[@autogefuehl]

+V10PDTDI I used to buy leather products like shoes and belts etc but now as I know better how much suffering is involved i dont do that anymore

[@githirking2260]

hey thomas, when you will be able to get a test drive with the upcoming VW Tiguan? I really liked your presentation about the car, now i want see it in action. Really thinking about to get one :) greetings from austria

[@autogefuehl]

+Githir King hey, that will be spring 2016. If you havent seen the static review yet, here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aICalaigaa2Bnqc

[@decapitofamily3410]

I think this car could do well in The States but some of the features like cup holders, turn signals, material used around the infotainment screen would need changed to meet US expectations.

[@yippie6862]

Renault should try to make a come back into the North American market. The Talisman may be a little behind the Euro Passat in terms of overall quality, but it looks like it would beat the American (built) version of the Passat on those terms. The Renault could compete with the VW on price as well. It has a certain French charm and uniqueness that I like. The plush seats and softer ride would fit in well with American driving tastes and roads. The four wheel steering is also a plus in the city or the mall parking lot. For me, the Talisman probably has the most eye catching outer design of any mid-sized sedan sold here, minus the premium German brands of course.

[@autogefuehl]

Well said

[@a.lange.]

+Autogefühl :D Americans love Camry and Accord! They don't really need any charm))) They need good reliability and best price!!! Talisman won't sell good there (same as Passat in US).

[@corneliusscipio777]

Do you have this review in German? Thanks :)

[@autogefuehl]

www.autogefuehl.de/2015/12/16/renault-talisman-test-vergleich-vw-passat/

[@corneliusscipio777]

@@autogefuehl vielen Dank mein Freund ;)

[@yassineidbelaid2156]

Maybe u have to compare the talisman with skoda superd

[@a.y.s.101]

Hi Thomas, why haven't you done a review on the Renault Koleos?

[@autogefuehl]

Will be coming up in a couple of weeks!

[@a.y.s.101]

I will be looking forward to it! I need your review, so I can decide on purchasing a Tiguan or a Koleos.

[@autogefuehl]

Sure! I can launch it beginning of may. Feel free to browse our tiguan videos meanwhile

[@a.y.s.101]

Already have. I've seen each video about two-three times now, and they are the best reviews out there!

[@papinoxxx3854]

Talisman 😉❤❤

[@steveokinevo887]

The first Renault designed for international business car market , interiour looks poor and you have the same dash board and screan as in the Megane nothing more. Always your first class review Thanks

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks jean!

[@eggbirdtherooster]

Its funny. So much people like the new designs of Renault, and you know why..? Cause they look very German in my opinion :) clean horizontal lines, good proportions.. etc. You can also see it with the new Peugeot models.. And did you know that a Dutch designer named Laurens van den Acker is responsible for the latest Megane, Talisman, Clio and Espace models...

[@nsp6590]

+eggbirdtherooster Personally, I have always hated most german car designs (especially VW, Opel and Mercedes). On the other hand, the French have been launching mostly great products with the exception of Renault which has been absent for >5 years. Peugeot in particular have a style that is completely unique and untouchable by any other manufacturer. In fact it is breath taking to consider that Peugeot has pretty much single-handedly managed to keep the french car market alive until Renault finally got their shit together. But anyway I am getting side tracked. What I wanted to say is I don't think other car designers, Peugeot in particular, just wait for new German cars to come out so they can steal their ideas. I mean the VW corporation for instance just creates virtually the same cars over and over and so does Mercedes. Only recently have they spiced things up a bit with the introduction of the new Golf which I must admit looks rather cool. Then again I could just talk about how Opel and VW only use turbo engines on everything which certainly does not make the environment very happy. Lastly *cough* they cheat in tests *cough*.

[@xXxPeeeeedyxXx]

+vns P wtf?!?

[@nsp6590]

+xXxPeeeeedyxXx which part didn't you understand? I think my comment was amazing XD

[@CAR_NL]

Good to see that they have not fitting loose buttons in the interior is there isn't a function on the car. They have rearranged the buttons, as can be seen at the dashboard below the climate on the mid trim level compared to the top trim level. A big difference with German cars, paying 40k euro's and get numerous fake buttons of functions that are not available. The car exterior looks wonderful. I really like it. The interior is not my cup of tea. For example, I like the "horizontal" lay out of the new Giulia more. What do you think Thomas?

[@autogefuehl]

+skycrap I also prefer horizontal layouts as for the design. However you can argue that vertical is better for usability .. i would still go for the more horizontal one :)

[@mohrino]

The console with bluecolor look high quality and with prple or green look cheap haha

[@hugogoncalves6657]

I prefer the talisman

[@ast5515]

I have something bugging me. When turning the steering wheel, the foglights are used to light the corners of the road. We are in 2015, all right? Just... Get past the halogen lights already!

[@vitorlive12]

The passat is my dream. Perfect car.

[@didzz4275]

+Vitor Pedrosa So buy one. Silly comment.

[@vitorlive12]

is none of your business.

[@vitorlive12]

KIK San is none of your business, fins your place!

[@luisfeliperamirezwuman440]

Interior taliman, exterior talisman

[@user-ky5lh4tz3y]

Thanks for your review. My Talisman is perfect car whole my life

[@same4746]

Talisman 👍❤️

[@ayounireda7394]

i think that renault guys are trying to back at the bussines with this car ..but the peugeot 508 it is a little bit forgotten ..right

[@caslav78]

Excellent and very detailed review, as allways, good job Thomas! It seems that Renault did quite good job, althaugh they will allways bee one step behind German manufacturers. It would be more interesting to compare it with Opel Insignia. :-)

[@autogefuehl]

+Časlav Ivanović thanks m8 !

[@kobbetop]

The sides of the touch screen are already schmutzig...small thing but annoying! I like the rear lights a lot, front end needs time so get used to I think.

[@DavidDeblaere]

How big is that logo in the front?!

[@autogefuehl]

+David Deblaere huuuuuuge

[@engvolkanogut]

I was so confused between these 2 cars but I went for Passat. In my opinion Talisman is more stylish and attractive. However, Renault Talisman second hand is really poor in Polish market and it’s important when you want to renew your car. Passat is way better car to preserve its value.

[@wilcekyo]

A kogo interesuje polski rynek 😂😂😂

[@MoizAudio]

4 wheel controll enough said

[@MarioDallaRiva]

Hi Thomas! Just started watching... I had a laugh as I once owned a pair of disco platform shoes in the late 70s that were the exact colour of the Talisman 💃🏻 Exact style I wanted but only available in that wAcky purple. Don't worry - I had team immediately dyed black. You are correct - Talisman is rather weak name 👎🏼 Ps look up disco on Wikipedia 😝

[@MarioDallaRiva]

Great body style on the Renault! Front logo wayyy too big as you noted 👍🏻 They should have it detailed as there's way too many scratches in the finish visible under the lights 👎🏼

[@autogefuehl]

+Mario Dalla Riva =)

[@Krychol]

Great test as usual :) But still I will go for VW :) Greetings from Warsaw :)

[@keeszoutzeling]

Great review! Nice to see Renault's improvement, but the Passat is just more premium and more practical as you shown. It will definitely have its sales increased in comparison to the Laguna.

[@autogefuehl]

+Kees Zoutzeling yep!

[@independentwith1]

WTF, the Passat already had scratches on the plastic near the Start Stop button. min 35:39. They didn't fix the problem, and it's 15 years old. And then :))) look at the finger prints on the Talisman's Navi controls :)))) bad bad bad Shame

[@XIIICorinthians]

In my opinion the Passat looks a bit ridiculous next to the Renault- its very generic and uninspired.

[@MrStaatenlos]

Gibt es das Video auch in deutsch damit man die Details versteht sonst kann ich gleich den Ton weg lassen.

[@autogefuehl]

Als Service für Deutsche Zuschauer, die lieber (auch) auf Deutsch schauen möchten, haben wir hier nun angefangen, auch deutsche Videos zu produzieren: youtube.com/@AutogefuhlDeutsch-qp1ze?sub_confirmation=1

[@johnnby]

I got feeling that somebody tries to mislead us by comparison of rear seats leg room. If you carefully look at the front seats position by doing comparison you can see that in Talisman driver seat is adjusted more to the very rear position 36:36 than in Passat 36:08 comparing position of driver and passenger front seat. Form my point of view this comparison was not objectively performed.

[@autogefuehl]

+Jan Bencura The seat was in a position so that I can drive well, of course that is different from car to car

[@johnnby]

OK But generally, there is no evidence how you seated the front seat and I cannot consider this comparison as objective and fair. I have personally chance to drive both of this cars, and there was no such a big difference about rear leg room as you presented. I have to admit that there was gently more space in Passat than in Talisman but not so big. This comparison that you shown could be true for Skoda Superb vs. Talisman. Because Superb is most spacious in this class.

[@marko_jack_]

You are always finding disadvantages in Renault but in Passat you are hiding them,you are so subjective it is noticeable,for you Passat doesnt have any bad,it is a perfection... Very disappointing...

[@cosminbardan]

+Marko Max really happy i wasn't the only one to think that. In the end, when he is showing the interior of the doors for the two cars, he actually has to say something positive about the passat in a comparison. They look extremely cheap in comparison. The seats as well. Hands down for the VW when it comes to the strong points it has, but when it comes to design (minus the central console and the ugly car front) he pretty much loses anywhere else.

[@autogefuehl]

+Marko Max I am not brand biased and not country-biased. Just stating my experience

[@Jaysondk]

i love that you dislike real animal leather Thomas :)

[@autogefuehl]

+Jaramos keep supporting us on that issue !

[@Jaysondk]

I'll sure do!

[@toXXic1975]

+Jaramos I have great respect for ideals, and I love animals, but I must admit when Thomas comes to this terms I tend to grin a bit. Let's say I drive such a car for 10 years - thinking of how many cows I EAT in this time, I guess they could produce a soccer field full of Talismans from their skins.

[@MrCommodoreAtari]

That dislike for real leather is pretty boring. I want leather seats in my car and dead animals on my barbecue grill!

[@myloft5633]

Small vote people! Would you buy the Talisman (thumbs up my comment) or the Passat (thumbs down my comment)?

[@autogefuehl]

I think the thumbs in the comments wont show the numbers of thumbs down :)

[@myloft5633]

***** True! :) I though they'd display both but they're incremental. :) I really like your review. I work in sales, that's why I never take French cars anymore. Most of them either have technical issues or the sound quality is bad for phone calls. When I had a Megane, some customers thought I was riding in a train with open windows... :)

[@MorningCoffeeDaily]

I got sea sick with camera sliding one side to side..

[@forstfodd]

+Gustavo Arzich da Gama haha same here, those wiggling stills :)

[@ancientmedicos5709]

Renault Talisman looks more eligent

[@dagripreaper1816]

the passat looks like a Chinese replica compared to the Talisman.

[@tolomeiu]

I don`t like the central console at the Talisman in comparison to the Passat. I think the climate buttons should have been separated in a different plastic block than together with the LCD. It`s to flat! But from outside, the Talisman looks much better and the Passat looks really stupid in white, I like the control button near the armrest and I don`t care about rear space - too many reviewers stress on the rear space which many people don`t care when they buy a car. Many people never drive 4 adults in a car all > 1.80m

[@hundra14kronor67]

interior talisman, exterior passat

[@z3royal31]

Talisman is better!I preffer Talisman over Passat 100%!☺

[@lordmarcell]

Renault muss den Talisman gemacht worden

[@MrCommodoreAtari]

+Marcell Szutor Und du gemacht willst gut Talisman.

[@a.lange.]

Talisman is much more better looking) i don't like all VW models because they're really boring for me... But i have a question about reliability of Renault. The time will show us is it worth that money.

[@Gloubful]

+Vitalii Gladun My 2002 Renault Scenic is still running like a charm :)

[@gibraltarik]

+Vitalii Gladun I have a 2010 Megane Sports Tourer 1.5 dCi and have enjoyed over 90,000 trouble-free kilometers.

[@a.lange.]

For me a realiable car is that has 300+ k trouble-free km :) That's why I love Toyota and Lexus so much))))

[@myloft5633]

+Vitalii Gladun I've had a 2010 Renault Megane. I drive over 40kkm per year for work. However during the first few hundred kilometers a sensor failed, and they also had to replace the gearbox (not related but they did notice it when I took it to replace the sensor they waited for Renault's HQ to agree to tell me about it). One time I dropped a pen between my seat and the central console: tried to get it back: a sharp metal piece of the seat left my finger bleeding (good thing I always keep a first aid kit in the trunk). In mountain roads the brakes overheat easily after a few kilometers. The mobile BT was a piece of junk (my contacts thought I was calling them while windows opened in the highway). Other that that the handling was good. My father had an older megane he spent quite a lot in it. It's less than 150kkm and he had to replace the turbocharger. Most people who didn't have any problem often bought used cars with everything "solved"/replaced. French cars are known to be very expensive to maintain. So you're paying less when you buy, but at the end maintenance + lower sell price you end up buying it much more than a German car. But this new Talisman looks good. I switched to German cars. They suit best my driving needs. However French cars are really great for city trips. If you're looking also for a bargain and if you can afford it: the new Jaguar XE isn't bad and also comes with GPS/infotainement as standard along with other options. The handling is also miles away from the Talisman or Passat. And it'll sell good too.

[@a.lange.]

Thanks for your coment :) By the way i hate Jags. For me Volvo and BMW will be 100 times better. But if i have to buy car for a long time (5-10 years) it won't be european brand. Japanese cars with naturally aspirated engines much more reliable (Toyota, Honda, Subaru, Mazda and Suzuki will be my choice).

[@predatorpsycho8625]

Tallisman is better.

[@TVMENGAART]

Talisman is an eye-catcher, so for the first look it looks definitelly better. The beauty of Passat is more hidden, so you need the second and third look to reveal it. I am sure though, after 5 years, the Passat will be still looking very well, the Renault obsolete though. I am going for the Passat....

[@PTZOUTZ]

Cloth seats in the Passat are a bit underwhelming to be honest, it’s always the case in VW cars unfortunately..

[@autogefuehl]

Fabric is best choice for climate comfort

[@ayhanb5547]

Talisman exactly look like jaguar xf and a bit ford mondeo

[@xXxPeeeeedyxXx]

+Aryan B not realy...

[@JasZg]

Everything is better and more quality then German products.After c klasse Mercedes,I will never buy any German car again.It costed me at least one extra more for repairs!

[@sonunath6109]

passat looks nicer and classic than talisman

[@Entoris19]

I prefer the Passat

[@MarioDallaRiva]

The Passat (VW in general) interior design I find to be emotionally pleasing the moment my eyes glance the interior surfaces and shapes of the car. Quite the opposite for the interior of the Renault. The head unit area appears to be an afterthought and possibly a result of time and/or budget constraints. Instrument cluster very uninspiring. Show stopper for me. Remember, as the driver you spend all your time looking and interacting with the cockpit space. Critical to have it give positive feedback to your senses. My opinion, of course! And that logo on the front! Compare the two fronts in the side by side shot. VW badge is the perfect proportion to the rest of the exterior. Btw, Mercedes is also guilty of an oversized front badge, purtroppo... Nice job, Thomas & Co. Btw is it now a job requirement to be named Thomas in order to be on the Autogefühl team?!? 😉

[@autogefuehl]

+Mario Dalla Riva haha =) it seems just like it =)

[@a.lange.]

+Mario Dalla Riva 100% agree with you! Big badges are shame :D

[@jedlaidlaw6792]

The VW is so boring and the tail lights look like blinds yet the Renault is perfect great design all the way around