Resin 3D Printing: SLA vs. MSLA vs. FDM - Elegoo Mars Review and Setup

[@SuperMakeSomething]

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[@jaymonkey382]

Just got mine last Friday and it's been a blast! Had only ever dabbled in FDM printing, but this machine has been incredibly easy to learn on. Fantastic job on this video as well! Very well spoken and paced. I'll definitely recommend this to some friends looking to get into printing just so they can get a quick grasp of the concepts.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you so much! I’m happy that you like the video and found it helpful! Also glad that you are enjoying the printer! It’s an awesome little machine!

[@alaksmcgregor3358]

Very nicely made video man. You should be proud. Well done.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you!

[@mikegrant8031]

That usb port looks a bit rough.

[@thebeststooge]

Plus it is damn inconveniently placed.

[@reyjedi3586]

It looks like poor manufacturing. Not sure how long this printer will last.

[@brandong.8494]

Easily solved with a USB extension cable though.

[@thomashrev]

@@brandong.8494 Nothing is solved by an USB cable

[@brandong.8494]

@thomashrev uh...why not?

[@thegallery]

After watching numerous videos today it's great to see somebody do it right! . This includes a great intro to the different types of home 3D printers; I wish I'd seen this video first! I really appreciated the graphics with the explanations. And thank you for no silly 30 second - 2 minute channel introduction, and no cuts for effects and micro drama!

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm happy to hear that you like the video and that you found it useful!

[@cmdrhunt]

Excellent amount of detail presented for the length of video, so very helpful especially the breakdown between SLA and MSLA. I am new to 3-d resin printing and this is the video I'm going to share to show how great it is for 3-d resin printing!

[@elevate32767]

5:25 hey guys what's the most awkward and user unfriendliest place we can put the USB port in lol

On the resin printer at 11:59 we can see that the print has shifted at ear level. What may have caused this displacement?

[@ElTurbinado]

Fernando França wow good eye. I wonder what happened? Maybe the base plate alignment joint shifted? Hopefully it wasn't a shift in the lcd position. Huh. Or maybe the table got bumped and something moved.

[@drnda2007]

probably z-axis; moving parts on Mars are good but for the price not the best; before using printer one should test how smooth the head movement is by hand; sometimes rollers are to tight and need to be readjusted; sometimes precision is not superb and with rolling parts even the slightest inaccuracy will make a "bump"; stepper motor here is small and may not have enough power to overcome all the forces caused by those minor imperfections; I've used number of roiling elements from china and you just cannot compare linear slide costing $30 with a high precision one costing 10x more; when you slide those by hand you can feel occasional resistance as balls and roiling surfaces may not be highly precise; Elegoo Mars is cheap and you just don't have highest quality moving parts including rollers and lead screw; doing test by hand and using proper lubrication and sometimes adjustment can help improve z-axis movement; in other cases it could be something else but usually it is mechanics

[@miremaker]

@@drnda2007 Can you install a backlash nut on the Z to help? Or also, use a T8 2mm pitch lead screw?

[@BrickThunder]

11:19 I just cringed when he didn’t hollow out the model, that’s a big waste of resin!

[@DangerFreak1966]

the white printed plastic thing included is to hold the build plate at an angle, so the resin can flow back in the basin . just remove the plate and put the plastic tool on the holder. After that the plate on the tool... Nice Idea from Elegoo.. Every drip Resin is it worth ^^

[@dumbcat]

put rainx on both sides of the FEP. prevents resin from sticking to the FEP. prevents vacuum between the FEP and LCD. does not leave residue like 3in1 oil. you really don't want tape on the LCD because you want the FEP as close to the LCD as possible. however, you can put kapton tape around the edges of your LCD. kapton tape is very thin and can also prevent spilled resin from getting into the cracks around your LCD

[@paulliuzzo1320]

Now that was an excellent Review. I have been trying to decide between this and the other similarly priced resin printers. Based on this video I have decided on the elegoo mars. I'm a model railroader and will be using this to make a lot of small parts, 1/87th scale, for my building interiors and exteriors and detail parts for the rolling stock. Thank you so much for the informative and well done review. elegoo made a good investment when they sent you that machine. ps. I have subscribed to your chan and look forward to other videos.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Paul Liuzzo Thank you so much! I’m happy to hear that you found the video useful! I think that you will really enjoy the printer! Have fun and wishing you good results!

[@eurisko2810]

Very well done. You packed a ton of information in a 14 minute video and made it a joy to watch.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you very much!

[@BrickThunder]

Other than teaching people to waste a ton of resin by not hollowing it...

[@ikomu8907]

that USB port :) P.s Superb Video Thanks ....

[@YousefB]

This video explained EVERYTHING I was curious about. Thanks!

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Yousef B Thank you so much! Glad you found the video helpful!

[@TheFlamingMantra]

Great review! I would recommend using Nitrile gloves over Latex because of their durability and resistance to puncturing which is important if your going to be handling uncured resin.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you! That is a great tip!

[@BrenzMarie]

Yes, absolutely! In addition, one of the reasons that nitrile (a synthetic copolymer) started to be used in making disposable gloves was the high incidence of latex sensitization and allergy that was occurring in healthcare professionals who had been using latex exam and procedure gloves for years. The nitrile exam glove industry was formed as a result and latex gloves have been all but totally phased-out in hospitals. As a consequence, the other desirable features of nitrile gloves have become recognized (ruggedness, allergy-free, impervious to most chemicals) and they've found their way into many different industries as a form of PPE (personal protective equipment). Harbor Freight has nitrile glove in boxes of 50 or 100 at reasonable prices.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

@@BrenzMarie That's really good info, I did not know that about Nitrile! Thank you for sharing!

[@NikolajLepka]

"additional latex gloves" *shows nitrile gloves*

[@nunyabizness1342]

Very good video, I like how you went carefully thru every step.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you!

[@mrfoameruk]

Mines coming tomorrow. This is an excellent video explaining how to do the setup (which I will be following), cleaning and printing your own designs. Most KZbinrs have just rushed and only briefly mentioned setup etc focusing more on the end result and not how they got there. Again great video.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you! Good luck with your printer and setup. I hope this video will help you get up and running quickly!

[@mrfoameruk]

@@SuperMakeSomething There was a difference which left me a bit baffled about (as it did not follow the pamphlet) the levelling paper sheet rather than the fep container. Makes sense as ususlly in further prints the tank will have resin in it so it can be done with the paper.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Round Tuit This is a difference between the included manual and the official Elegoo videos. I believe both would work, however I went with the paper in order to minimize the chance of damaging the FEP film during leveling just in case. Not sure if one works better than the other - I just figured less mechanical wear on the film = longer life.

[@Valentino-ok2hss]

Super interesting video. Thank you for sharing

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you!

[@Archer-bc6cv]

I had a general idea of how resin 3D printers worked but I didn’t know much. However I feel like I know so much more now. Thank you for making this video. It seemed like you put a lot of effort into the graphics and they turned out amazing.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Excellent! I’m happy that you found this video useful and that you learned something new. Thank you!

[@ArleneA]

Would I be able to keep this and run it in the same room I sleep? I don't have any other space besides my bedroom.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Hi Arlene! I actually made a video about comparing particle emissions and air quality of the original Elegoo Mars to the Mars Pro, which may help to decide whether you are comfortable running the printer in the same room that you are sleeping in. You can check this video out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGGlh6x8nJyXmq8

[@QuebecoisSti]

Awesome review, it looks awesome for the price. Why MSLA and SLA build volume are still that small ??? However it said in description it's available but on Amazon it's saying currently unavailable for both USA and CANADA ....

[@SuperMakeSomething]

QuebecoisSti They estimate that it will be back in stock on Wednesday, but it supposedly has been back throughout the day, so be sure to keep checking back!

[@DisgruntledPigumon]

Small because in order to keep costs down, they all use cheaply available smartphone LCD screens. So you're limited to the size of a smartphone. You could always build your own using a tablet screen. OR get higher resolution by switching to a 4K LCD screen.

[@johnbon7449]

But your Mars print is squashed in the Z axis. You should print a 1x1x1 cube and measure it.

[@BenJaminLongTime]

a different review I watched the guy had that problem too, it is just because there is a little button that is kinda hidden where you can select your printer manufacture in the slicer software. Once you do that the squished Z goes away. The built in test print (the rooks) come out perfect with no squished Z, showing that the printer is not the issue but rather the slicer. Also that white residue on his print the other review guy said was due to not letting the alcohol evaporate off the surface before setting in light to finish curing. This printer is looking pretty good, I have wanted SLA for a long time but it has been just a bit too pricy but I am thinking maybe not so much any more.

[@octapc]

John Bon exactly

[@thebarefoothobbit]

Can you explain what you mean by this? I would like to make sure my prints turn out good :)

[@selvalss]

@@thebarefoothobbit Sometime its steps are wrong, instead of printing 10mm, it's printing 9,5mm. The test would be printing a cube of 10x10x10mm and measure it and see how different it is from the 10mm it was supposed to be. Then there's calculations to make about the step settings of the machine to correct it. Lets use the example I gave, you print a 10x10x10mm cube and the z axis measured is only 9,5 mm it means that it is wrong. You then proceed to the config file to see how many steps it is for the theoretical 10mm and it's writen 200 steps per 10mm, but since you are getting only 9,5 mm you correct it by (10/9,5)x200=210 steps. Now you can overwrite the settings of the machine from 200 steps /10 mm to 210 steps/10mm. This works also with cm or inches. Now you "stretched" the printings to be corrected. Cheers

[@jasonbenyeda1476]

Instead of masking tape, you should seal all the edges of the LCD with Kapton tape. This prevents the FEP from sticking and in case you have a tear in the FEP during a print, prevents resin from seeping down into the LCD/printer.

[@anthonymullings8539]

Thank you kind stranger

[@ElTurbinado]

this is a nice looking printer; tbh though i just bought a form 3 and it automates almost all of this stuff; filling the resin tank, homing, all the software is spot on, remote job uploading, and i got the optional automated washing and curing units that take care of all that stuff too. it's sla not msla though.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

The Form 3 looks like an awesome printer! Unfortunately it is a bit out of my price range, but I would love to be able to try it out one of these days!

[@FlameBot]

WRONG! STOP! DON'T user ever latex gloves. NEVER! use nitril gloves for resin usage! and NEVER calibrate Z axis like shown! the paper has to be movable!

[@s34nvideos]

How long was that print running? You grew a beard! 11:45

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Haha that's hilarious! :P

[@mrfoameruk]

maybe a video on failures and how to overcome them in SLA prints would be a good video to make.

[@marcoz6269]

It seems like a wonderful machine. The only question is if the resin smells a lot during and after a print. Can you use it at home, and if so, do you need to have a well-ventilated area set out for it?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Sherab Zangpo I’m currently working on a video that addresses this topic. Stay tuned!

[@jamessawyer1331]

That is the most informative product review I don't own.

[@BrenzMarie]

Except for the inclusion of the music track, your video is a master class in how to make instructional KZbin videos. I appreciate that you kept the music track level low, but seriously, for these kinds of vids, music is only appropriate at the beginning and end, and occasionally for transitions. But what I really wanted to say is that, unlike so many of the amateur hacks on KZbin, you obviously know your stuff and are multi-talented. You apparently took the time to script out what you wanted to say. You said it clearly, succinctly, and quickly. You moved through your material in a logical manner. You had great graphics, superb editing, and the equipment and procedure vids with the voice-overs were shot skillfully. In its totality, this was a very well-done presentation. Henceforth, whenever I encounter one of those painful KZbin videos with some mumbling, bumbling fool as the star of the show, I am going to send a link to your video with the suggestion that this is how it should be done. That said, my Elegoo Mars arrived earlier today so I watched your presentation before unpacking and proceeding with my first print. All turned out well, which I attribute to Elegoo's product and the training and instruction I received from you video. Thank you for your efforts.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you! I really appreciate the detailed feedback and am happy to hear that you like the video! While my approach makes the video turnaround time for me a bit longer than others who upload more frequently, my hope is that the extra attention to detail makes it worth it. Happy to hear that it is being noticed and seems to be paying off! :)

[@matrixarsmusicworkshop561]

I didnt even notice the music at all lol

[@Styles5311]

I want the SLA print not MSLA. Which Mars printer does the SLA from this video?

[@JeremyCook]

Thanks so much for the good explanation. I was thinking all SLA printers used the method that is actually MSLA. Is laser (or standard, it seems) SLA common in the maker space? Love the resolution capability, but the chemicals/work environment concerns just seems like such a barrier to entry.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

The most common “maker”-ish level SLA printers would probably be those from Formlabs, though I have not used them myself. Resin printing is definitely a bit more involved compared to FDM printing, so I typically decide which one to use depending on the intended application of the part.

[@AdrenalineTheory]

That crooked ass usb port hurt to see, especially after you plugged the drive in.

[@vaibhavgaikwad1938]

Thanks, this really sounds and looks promising, any idea on the life of the printer? Also, I am more into 1/12 size collectibles so would you give me some advice if this one can help in printing custom heads in that 1/12 scale? (as this scales are smaller and resolution is a key)

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Vaibhav Gaikwad So far, the printer is used regularly and still going strong without any issues! The build volume of this machine is 120x68x155, so if these numbers x12 are larger than the heads you are trying to print, you should be good to go!

[@vaibhavgaikwad1938]

@@SuperMakeSomething Thanks the 1/12 scale heads are really small, so I am sure the print size can be handled, just wanted to know the minimum resolution that it can print the details. Like the 1/12 head is almost 1.2 inch tall and 9 cms in width.

[@chandandhar6897]

Sir how much time takes to print 1 ring and if 10 ring how much time takes to finish print

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Chandan Dhar The print time would depend on the Z-dimension of the ring, but printing 10 should take the same amount of time as printing 1 if they are all on the same build plate.

[@chandandhar6897]

@@SuperMakeSomething but there is no specific time for one ring then i would get little idea

[@Desmo904]

As someone who is a total noob to 3D printing and is looking to get into it I did indeed find something new in your video! The in depth look at the slicing software (including the details on time to model, cost per model etc) was really informative and something I haven't yet seen from other videos on the printer. Thanks! (I agree with some of the other comments on the USB port though. Not only is it in the wrong place (on the back?) but that one in particular looked like it was ready to fall inside the machine. Not very impressive build quality.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Awesome! Glad that you enjoyed the video! Thankfully the USB quality and placement have improved in subsequent releases of the machine, as this was from the first production run. They are much more solid now!

[@cls63fromoc8]

The problem I have experienced with low cost resin printers such as the Mars and Photon S is poor dimensional accuracy. They are great for things like figurines due to the high level of detail. However, I have not been able to get them to print parts that are dimensionally accurate for prototyping functional parts. I recently calibrated one so that the print was accurate to within 0.002" of the CAD model. But when I printed the other half of the model it was off again and did not match up to the first half I printed. Is this pretty much the case with all lower cost resin printers? I also experienced "puffing" on the side with supports where the area near the supports tended to grown and be thicker than they should be with both the Mars and Photon printers. I have a Prusa MK2 and MK3 and found that both of them have dimensional accuracy that is more consistent and repeatable compared to the resin printers. I have been rather frustrated not being able to achieve good dimensional accuracy on the resin printers that I have been able to achieve with my FDM printers. Not sure what to do short of spending 15x the money on a higher end resin printer. Help!

[@octapc]

CLS63 from OC I don’t have the answer but I appreciate the info you have given

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Interesting -- I have not yet made any parts on the printer that require 0.002" dimensional accuracy, but I will definitely be on the lookout for this in future prints! One of the issues I have with some FDM printers is that there is some variation in my printed part dimensions from variations in the bed height, which sometimes leads to some "smoosh" in the first few layers. The auto-leveling is one of the things I like best about this particular printer, since this has helped me to avoid this issue. Maybe it is time for me to install a bed leveling probe in my FDM machines...

[@spinnetti]

These really print great and are a great value, but they do have a few weaknesses. The "Pro" version just about to be released looks to address those gaps. Even as-is, I've been well happy with it.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Spinnetti The Pro version should be out by the end of the month, so stay tuned! I will post an Amazon link to the Pro version in the video description as soon as it is available.

[@scofah]

Your content speaks for itself - the music doesn't add anything enjoyable - maybe a little at the beginning or the end...but during the whole vid - not so pleasant. Thanks for your info though. Subbed.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you and thanks also for the feedback about the music! I will consider this for upcoming videos.

[@octapc]

Super Make Something maybe reduce the volume by half

[@brandong.8494]

I didn't mind the music

[@KernCountyTransparency]

Does it actually takes 4 hrs to print?

[@merlepatterson]

I suggest buying a cheap "Burn Computer" that you don't normally use for personal business. This way you can run all the Chinese malware peripheral device software you want without worry.

[@hob976]

How bad is the smell...? If I set it up in a large office (where I sometimes eat my lunch at my desk), will it be too noxious...?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

hob976 Overall, the smell wasn’t too bad, though this largely depends on the resin you use. A large office should be fine as long as there is sufficient air flow. If you are concerned about health effects, the Elegoo Mars Pro is another good option, because it includes an integrated air filter. I compare the two units, which you can check out here if you are interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGGlh6x8nJyXmq8

[@BuchananBrandon]

Very good video, thank you. I especially like how you showed the tape trick and took us through how you did your first printing and slicing. As someone who has never 3D printed before and is about to get my Elegoo Mars in a few days, this was one of the best videos I've seen.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you so much! Happy to hear that you liked the video!

[@chadashton7029]

Printer like this appropriate for a first time user? Looking to print miniatures and terrain for gaming mostly. Probably also some r/c parts and just other bits and bobs as needed.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Chad Ashton Absolutely! I think this printer is perfect for miniatures. The only thing to be aware of is the additional clean-up materials/steps involved compared to an FDM printer.

[@absolutegenerique]

I'm wondering what the difference is between Silver-Orange model and Black-Red model ?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

absolutegenerique There is no functional difference between these units - merely aesthetics for whatever fits your space the best!

[@jamesdonnelly8888]

I learned some good stuff, but came here wanting to know how build speed compared. Did I miss that bit?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thanks! You’re right - I did not call out the overall print time. In general, resin printing is faster for larger models (that use the whole build area), because you are exposing an entire layer at once. This is especially true for new printers that use “mono” LCD screens. A video about this technology and how it differs from the tech in the original Mars is coming soon, so stay tuned!

[@kksmith244]

It's good to know adding the tape before bed leveling didn't mess up the Z zero. Adjusting the bed on my Ender 3 was harder than tramming an actual manual milling machine. 🙃

[@resinart2098]

Can I make molds for resin in this machine. Is $500 a good price?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Resin Art 20 I am not sure how cast resin would react to cured resin, but I know that people have used this printer for jewelry casting. The price of the printer is only ~$250, which I think is a great price!

[@chrislannon]

Hi Alex, do you have a contact email you can share? Would like to discuss some Amazon products with you. Thanks. -Chris

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Christopher Lannon You bet! Please see the “About” section of my KZbin channel for a contact email.

[@chrislannon]

Super Make Something Thanks. Must have missed it.

[@michaeldamon7500]

Incredibly informative video. Thank you very much :)

[@SuperMakeSomething]

You’re welcome! Glad you liked the video!

[@orhanyor]

good comparison, difference in quality is huge.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you!

[@nurmenaine]

What do you think, is it good to make lego technic look alike blocks?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

In terms is resolution, this could definitely work! Standard UV resin is a bit brittle once cured though, so you would want to use something like a “tough resin” for parts like this.

[@jan_franzke]

Your print bed is crooked!

[@SuperMakeSomething]

🙃

[@Ebonyqwe]

Surely sticking that tape affects the zeroing of the printer? Also the print plate rotated when you did auto levelling. Do you think that is a problem?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

The tape may affect leveling a bit, but the effect was negligible based on my experience -- the FEP film still made a "popping" sound with every layer, indicating good layer adhesion/clearance between the film and the printing surface. Regarding the build plate rotation -- the build plate seems to be slightly smaller than the exposure area of the screen in order to account for this, though it would certainly be best to try to keep rotation to a minimum when printing modes that use up a lot of the x-y area.

[@Ebonyqwe]

Super Make Something 🖖

[@Godzilla-yc2ku]

Hi!! Im new here so are the 3d models that are made for fdm are still compatible with the sla?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Stoppy chopper All 3D printing models generally start out as STL files, which are then sliced in their respective software (e.g. Cura for FDM and Chitubox for MSLA) in order to allow them to be printed on a specific machine. Therefore you can print the same models on both types of printers, as long as they are sliced with the correct software and settings for that printer.

[@chlordk]

Very annoying background music. I couldn't take more than 5 minutes of the video.

[@2Infinit2]

How about the smell? I want a resin printer.. but I'm worried about the smell because I live in a small place. I dont mind about the mess, just the smell

[@berathan5569]

It smells bad. It's nearly unbearable to breathe in the same room. If you have a garage or balcony it would be better.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

I have not had the experience that Berat has had, but we may be using different printers. Personally, I do not think that the Mars has a particularly strong odor. My unit is located near the window in my office -- if I have the window open while it is printing, I have no issues with the smell and can work in the same room.

[@scottwillis5434]

1. Wear a half-mask respirator with organic vapor cartridges. 2. Exhaust fan (small, 4" range?) running when working with this stuff 3. I would expect different resins to vary in volatiles / odor, and for Chinese resins to vary lot-to-lot

[@santiagolozoya4940]

@@berathan5569 it barely smells

[@freebird285]

I’ve heard it claimed that you can buy this printer for $229 but I can’t find it for that price. If true could someone link me to where?

[@slipscustoms7992]

I'm really stuck on what to get, I hear that the resin printers require a lot of extra effort whereas the filament printers dont require anything besides maybe sanding. Do you hav ed any recommendations on an affordable FDM printer?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

FDM printers are definitely another good option depending on what you are looking to do. They definitely have less of a cleanup complexity compared to resin printers, though the resolution won’t be as high. For an immediate recommendation, I would point to either the Creality Ender 5 or the Lotmaxx SC-10, as these have a good trade off between build volume and size. (Check out my videos on both of these printers for more info + affiliate links if you are interested.) I will be live-streaming about the JGAurora A5S this weekend, which has a massive build volume, so that might be a good choice as well. I am currently in the process of reviewing a dual extrusion printer as well, which can be used to print with dissolvable supports, so this overcomes issues related to support removal. Hopefully this will be up in the next month or two, so stay tuned!

[@gbresaleking]

I can't find the stormtrooper skull stl anywhere , anyone have a link ?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Gage Bohner Check out the “Deathtrooper” link in the video description. It will take you to the MyMiniFactory download page for the model.

[@gbresaleking]

@@SuperMakeSomething tyvm!

[@debvoz]

This was a very interesting video and you presented a great deal of information in an easy to understand form. I do have a question about hardening the resin in the sun. Could you use one of the UV units that are created for UV hardening gel nail polish? They are small, self contained plug in units that are designed to have someone put their finger tips inside so the UV lights harden the polish on their nails. It seems like it should work and be much more reliable than taking it outside and hoping it is sunny.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Debbie Vozniak Hi Debbie! Thank you for your kind words! Absolutely - using one of those units work very well. I actually use something similar in my follow up video where I review the Elegoo Mars Pro. In that video, I bought a small UV LED lamp and a turntable, which allows for the curing process to be controlled more than simply placing the unit in the sun. If you are interested, you can check out this video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGGlh6x8nJyXmq8

[@RobBob555]

STOP putting background music to videos with *narration* .. it ONLY makes it HARDER to hear what you are saying and is VERY distracting ... EVERYONE STOP DOING THIS.. we are NOT here to listen to music !!

[@VeganRashad]

Before the thing-omatic there was the Cupcake CNC. After Bre Pettis sold close to 3k cupcakes they upgraded to The Thing-Omatic. I have Makerbot #790 which I personally purchased from the founder.

[@xxxxzorroxxxx]

Thank u for the info. Now I want one and my wife is happy beacause amazon is out of Stock. I can’t wait! Question is this Machine very loud...

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Elegoo estimates that they should be back in stock very soon! It looks like they make it available whenever they get the chance, so keep checking back! This is my first resin printer, so I can’t comment about other printers from first-hand experience. However, it does seem quieter compared to other printers based on KZbin videos I’ve seen. I was working next to the printer while it was making the pieces in this video and did not find it distracting. 🙂

[@patrickduguay8]

Very good introduction to Resin 3D printing. Now I understand the process. While I am happy with my FDM printer for buildings and terrains, printing figurines has been hit and miss. My main concern is the potential for toxic fumes. I have limited space so I need to have a method of venting those fumes. Also, I am thinking a 'cure box' with a UV light would be more practical than putting the objects outside in the sunlight, particularly in the middle of winter! I have to do some more research as I am also interested in strength and durability of resin printing as I make items that need to be strong, flexible and durable.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you! I'm glad that you liked the video! Resin printing is definitely great for highly detailed prints, though there are some trade-offs in terms of clean-up, etc. compared to FDM printing like you indicate. I made another video about the Mars Pro that covers emissions and air quality, so please be sure to check that one out as well!

[@raughboy188]

I also check out the price and it did suprise me. It's fair. Elegoo is great because you also get a software for him.

[@kenbessemer4913]

I am ready to buy my first resin printer. I am choosing resin because I create jewelry and they have the resin casting wax. Could you do a side by side of the few resin printers you have with casting wax and some jewelry models like rings with prongs so we can see if the claims that these will work are real? My hope is to print a casting tree whole on the sprue so I can eliminate molds, wax injecting and treeing by hand. When you think about small links for a bracelet (10 to 20 components) being done one by one compared to this it is going to make it possible to turn out more than one finished product in a week. If you can get a model of a casting tree with several jewelry items on it that would be the ultimate. Try asking Stuller as they make the software (rhino gold) to design these items. The other software is 3-design and Matrix they may want to promote theirs as well. Could be could source for a model file.

[@raykent3211]

In case you haven't come across him, VOG, vegetable oil guy, has done some videos on metal casting from models in specialist uv resin.

[@d3tach3d]

Cant wait till they release their 4k 10" to 12" tablet version for larger prints. *Please do this!* these beds are just too small

[@OwenWithAHammer]

the N7 is 300mm

[@d3tach3d]

@@OwenWithAHammer yeah but it isnt really affordable. Im hoping something like I mentioned would be at 400$ or so

[@Carlos_Arete]

I just ordered my first 3D printer and this explanation was absolutely perfect, I know 10x more than I did 14 minutes ago THANK YOU!

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you so much Carlos! Happy to hear that you liked the video and that you found it useful! Enjoy your new 3D printer - it is a lot of fun!

[@Dennis-E-Sebastian]

Excellent review! Will now save up for the Elegoo Mars. Sorry Ender 3, you're a real pain to use. You'll soon be just an expensive paper weight.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Dennis E. Sebastian Thanks! I’m happy to hear that you like the video!

[@thegallery]

@Super Make Something Hey SMS, I have the question you probably get all the time! I'm after an affordable 3D printer with the ability to print smooth geometric type items (not characters or sculpture) as accurately as possible, in both firm and flexible (silicone-esque) type material. I love the smoothness of the Resin but does it shrink or do anything strange? I'm after close tolerances. Obviously I'm not expecting miracles with a $500 machine! But I think the Mars might be a good place to start, especially if it can do a flexible resin too and be somewhat accurate. Any suggestions appreciated. Tks.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

I believe that there is some shrinkage with resin, but I have not quantified it. I also unfortunately do not have any experience with flexible resins, but I can say that the Mars is definitely a good choice as a resin printer based on my experience if you decide to go that route. In terms of other options for flexible filament, I've heard that the Ender 3 Pro is good for printing NinjaFlex. At this time, I do not have any hands-on time with this printer, but I may very soon and there may be a few social media posts on the way about this style of machine, so stay tuned... ;-) The Ender 3 Pro can be purchased here in case you are interested in going that route: amzn.to/35Rp9US

[@YourLocalRaccoon]

This video is a bit old sure, but even back in 2019 I'm pretty sure there were 0.2mm nozzles, and hardware/firmware/software for FDM printers that would enable a 0.05mm layer height with said nozzles.

[@williamforbes6919]

A couple of comments. The comparison showed a supports failure on the MSLA print, with a deformed model. How common is this, because that is potentially a showstopper, and it could cause disconnected geometry to become permentantly bonded to the FEP layer. That could mean damaging the LCD as well if not inspected for. Obviously there are dozens of reasons this could have happened, most of which have nothing to do with the printer itself, but it is worth addressing since it was shown in the video. Also pointing out that the MP Mini Delta officially supports 0.05mm layer heights as well, so that is not particularly a good point to use for differentiation. Minimum feature size is something you could compare them with, as well as the surface finish and especially print time for high resolutions. You can also point out the ability to print actually transparent items, something that is only barely possible in FFF printers. Materials cost is worth addressing, and compatibility with different sensitivity resins. There seems to be an impression in the comments section that this is a replacement for common FFF printing, which it isn't. MSLA is a complimentary printing technology to FFF, and is capable of many things FFF cannot practically do (I have a 5mm tall benchy, so you can do crazy high res with FFF, it is just very painful). FFF is there for large mechanical items, and can produce inexpensive large items with closed cavities. MSLA can print at high resolutions without an exponential increase in print time, is entirely homogeneous across the part, and is far more suited to organic shapes than FFF. I think your editing and presentation was solid. The video was extremely watchable and had a consistent professional tone. If you went a bit more into technical details of why this printer might or might not be perfect for the viewer I believe your content would be among the best.

[@RalphSchaefer77]

Flaming Mantis already recommended Nitrile Gloves over the Latex ones, because of durability. But the much more important reason to use Nitrile gloves is, that the resin can go THROUGH the latex ones. So there is effectivly no protection. Btw. the blue ones that came with the printer are made of Nitrile.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Good catch! To be honest, the "latex" statement was a narration mistake that I didn't notice until after I uploaded the video (d'oh)! That being said, it's actually led me to learn a lot about Nitrile as a material and its use in industrial/medical applications from the comments, so I'd say it's an overall win! :)

[@3DModelsToys]

That look very smooth for the size, i might consider that printer, im using an Ender 3 which is a 3d printer that makes a lot of noise but so far is doing the job well, i wonder how Ellego Mars is about noise reduction comparing to PLA printers?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

From what I’ve heard the Ender 3 is quite noisy - however I do not have any experience with this printer. However I can say that I do not find the noise of the Mars overly distracting. Since the motor does not use an x-y carriage to move a print head, he only sound coming from the printer is the fan.

[@cutty02]

.1mm for FDM is an absolute myth. Any CR10 type printer can easily print at .05mm nowadays lead screw plus stepper accuracy is the limiting factor. Also you didn't mention the fact that resin printers cant use such a wide variety of materials like FDM

[@baldurkuhn1]

Great vid, congrats! Total newbie here, I guess you can't print colored models with this. What kind of machine would take in order to print let's say a head, and have the hair as one color, skin as another, the white of the eyes, etc? Many thanks!

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thanks! Unfortunately doing multicolored prints is impossible with MSLA machines, because resin gets hardened one layer at a time. Therefore, it is not possible to "section off" parts of a print to print different areas in different colors. Your best bet for this would be a dual/multi-extruder FDM machine. I am currently reviewing the QIDI Tech X-Pro, which has two extruders, so it can print in two different colors, so definitely stay tuned for that! Other options exist to allow multiple colors, like the "Palette" add-on from Prusa for example, which might be a good option, though I have not had the chance to try it yet. Hope this helps!

[@aspenyoung2914]

what about the lcds needing to be replaced frequently?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Aspen Young I have personally not needed to swap out my screens yet, but you are correct that they are consumable. At least for the Elegoo, replacement screens are very cheap and available on Amazon.

[@aspenyoung2914]

Super Make Something nice

[@stewartross1233]

It's a competition between the god awful music and his voice, why do video makers always add music to something being narrated. Seriously why? I'm not here to see or hear music, what does it add?

[@arcadeland5836]

Thank you for taking the time with your video, being completely new it helped hugely...top man !!

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you so much!

[@raizend1]

And how resistant/hard is the resin pieces? Like for replacing cogs/gears on small electronics?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Francisco Pérez The pieces are hard, but the resin is brittle. I would not recommend it for high-torque applications, but for small electronics it is probably fine.

[@UncleJessy]

Wow awesome video man! A ton of awesome info packed into 1 video!

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Uncle Jessy Thank you so much!

[@limpfinger12]

I love that all these elegoo sponsored videos have ads for other resin printers

[@scottwillis5434]

Seems like a case of 'go where your market is'.

[@BardoczAdam]

FDM minimum layer hight is 0.1mm? Whaaat? :D Dude. It should be a why not to buy eleegoo Mars video.

[@Frostfly]

FDM is a computer controlled Glue gun. MSLA is the Inkjet of the 3d printing.

[@MartinFutter70]

Super useful video, good clear animations, nice comparisons and easy to understand...cheers

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you Martin!

[@r00yce]

Great video, but I missed the points of cleaning the printer after a print (cleaning the reservoir and putting unused resin back into the bottle.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Paul Arnold Thank you Paul! You are right - I neglected to put the clean-up portion into this video, but will definitely include this section in the next project where I use this printer. Stay tuned!

[@artinatlihan4526]

We can use for jewelery castable or no

[@SuperMakeSomething]

I have not tried this myself, but the answer looks to be yes based on things I’ve seen online.

[@Powerofproperties]

3dm files can also work with this printer? and is this can be used for jewelry making purpose?

[@ottojarvonnen2455]

Yeah cool, but do I need a damn hobby room or can I have a 3D printer at home without damaging my lungs?

[@charliewaters5289]

0:04 Anyone else looking at the shelf behind him, thinking "maybe we shouldn't trust this guy?"

[@perseus996]

Im into jewelry. Do yoy thing i can use this 3d printer with castable wax resin?

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Yes you should be able to use this printer with castable wax resin, though the exposure and layer height settings will likely need to be adjusted compared to “standard” resin.

[@3D_Printing]

2:27 Waiting for 4 K MSLA :)

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Protomaker Black Sprint Original 3D Printer I would love that - great way to have a bigger build volume!

[@3D_Printing]

​@@SuperMakeSomething Plus ready find details: Now they are developing a SLA type printer that works much, much quicker 100 times faster news.umich.edu/3d-printing-100-times-faster-with-light/ www.kickstarter.com/projects/kudo3d/titan-1-fastest-tallest-print-high-res-sla-3d-prin

[@williamforbes6919]

Now imagine when we finally get to use a resin inkjet technology without being sued by Stratasys. Actually the best of all world's. Minus resin price of course.

[@AmusingAnimalAdventures]

Awesome video!! Very informative.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Michael Varanelli Thank you!

[@josephlangford3045]

Since it has a similar designed Z axis, is this susceptible to the Z "wobble" that the Anycubic Photon is?

[@mikecyberey3586]

It is likely an exact clone of the anycubic photon, with some changes to reduce manufacturing costs, clearly apparent by the cheap cover, and incorrectly assembled USB port. You would think they would send review units with at least 1 QC check; so it is likely suspect to all similar flaws.

[@Robbo1900]

A box of latex gloves, then shows a box of nitrile gloves!!! Fickin funny!!

[@leecook7672]

Your video was very informative. I am looking to start printing my own pen blanks that I can fill with epoxy resin and turn on a lathe. Will this print a blank that is 5 in long x 3/4 high x 3/4 wide. will this do that? Lee

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Hi Lee -- thanks! Glad that you enjoyed the video. The Mars' build volume is 4.7 x 2.6 x 6.1 in, so this should be able to print the pen blanks in the size you are looking for. Cheers!

[@leecook7672]

@@SuperMakeSomething Thank you for the information. I am just starting out. Trying to teach an old dog new tricks.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

@@leecook7672 I would be very interested to see how the pens turn out! If you are able to share a picture with me after you give it a try, that would be great! Good luck and happy printing!

[@leecook7672]

I sure will. I'm looking at ordering very soon. What would be the best way to share with you.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Hi Lee! Either here or on Instagram would work. I just checked out your pens on your IG account - they look awesome!

[@AHOYCaptain]

Please lower your backgroung music its to energetic!

[@Seal9382]

Very clear video. Well done. Explains the different ways of printing very well.

[@SuperMakeSomething]

Thank you!