Restoring a 50 year old Machinist Vice

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[@bengrogan9710]

Only really one additional comment of somethings you can add to the vice to make it more useful 1. The unused large screw location on the side of the vice - That is used to fabricate a work-piece stop: Very useful with the DRO on the machine for repeatability 2. If you look under the vice again you will see several slots - They are the same width as your T-slots: You can bolt in a pair of pieces of ground toolsteel - shape a taper on the lower slide and they will be fixed in the T-slot and aligned almost perfectly with the machine bed - That allows you to make notes of the fixed vice location with the DRO so you don't have to clock the vice for every job

[@simonwoodworks8840]

There are very few more satisfying things in life than restoring mechanical components and putting it all back together again! Great job 👏

[@webbryan1]

9:20 the vice looks unhappy even terrified getting the filler treatment

[@lorenacejaayala8178]

ryan webb kmHey Siri

[@BurntSquirrel]

No Grease during reassembly? I'm Triggered..

[@Cole-xq2tl]

Easy there My Mechanics

[@dann_craig]

@@Cole-xq2tl my very first thought...

[@j.w.perkins6004]

Kudos on this project! There are foundry employees, manufacturering personnel, industrial reps, setting up in their graves applauding the product that they manufactured a century ago that sits proudly on your milling table. Beautiful remanufacturing job.

[@SharkyMoto]

pro tip: polished stone tiles from a store (like the 3-5cm thick ones) are usually astonishingly flat, much flatter than any piece of particle board could ever be, so those make the perfect surface for sanding something flat on a budget. (sure its not as good as a proper flat stone but still)

[@jthewelshwarlord6331]

You could have skimmed the ways and machined surfaces with your mill, it'd be faster and more accurate. That vice probably is out of square on all axes now.

[@drmalenko]

Im not a machinist, but that is exactly what I was thinking...

[@jordantheallmighty]

I think the only reference surface on that type of vice is the removable jaws. When its mounted all he has to do is tram that surface in and lock it down.

[@stathisbikos6563]

Like jordan said, only the fixed jaw of a vice is to be taken as a reference surface. If you tram that in you are done. The only association that needs to be perfect is the angle between the vertical of the fixed jaw and the axis of the spindle which need to be parallel. Then the x axis is trammed in and that's it. No other part if the vice needs to be square to anything.

[@dalekify]

@@stathisbikos6563 In a way you're right. If the bottom of the vice was true, it's not now. So, anything else he does with it won't matter. It will be out.

[@Mtaalas]

@@stathisbikos6563 except if the thing is warped since he sanded the bottom and it's probably not flat anymore and when you mount non flat surface to a falt one, you'll twist it. You can't tram a warp out easily or not at all. Then he'd have to shim that bottom surface and that would ruin the contact surface area and cause other issues with stability etc... so umm...

[@Psychlist1972]

I like your videos, but the music was louder than your voice in some parts of ths, like when you were talking about refinishing the machine screws.

[@julianlech8505]

Nothing better than using a tool or machine that you have restored. Well done.

[@lizjohnson1174]

This was so oddly satisfying! I love how much work you put into restoring such a beautiful and useful machine. Such a labor of love!! Great job!!

[@SirCatsal0t]

Discovered this channel pretty much right after deciding to make a custom desk, funny coincidence.

[@woogaloo]

That turned out sharp! That paint/filler job is crazy.

[@salloune]

Great job! Very inspiring. I discovered your channel a couple of weeks ago and i love your videos. One thing that can be improved is the different sound level between moments when you talk and moments of music. I always need to play with the volume :) Keep up!

[@tony69peaches]

Love that restoration. That old clamp is a sexy bit of kit for the shop. So much better than something from Harbor Freight!

[@LatteDZ]

Nice to see someone that is not using nitrile cloves all the time.

[@ruudable]

Recently 'discovered' your channel. Great content and skilled restauration. Besides that, also the editing and quality of the video is very high. You deserve much more subscribers! Won't take long before your channel takes a flight... 💪👍

[@Pruemedia]

Spends a day removing rust. Primes it in rust color. Haha! Turned out great. Well done.

[@lyon666]

it's called cold blue because traditional blueing is done by heating the metal to cherry red then quenching in oil, resulting in a black rust protective coating :) cheers from Sverige, love your channel

[@masweet11]

When I saw him sand the base of the vise I wanted to cry! Not a precision vise anymore

[@bucknaked31]

Matthew Sweet With a belt sander, no less!

[@coolfrost6]

@@bucknaked31 He used a vibrating sander with a Scotch-Brite pad on. is it's not ideal if you want ultimate precision but the amount of material removed is very small mostly it's rust the surface rust being removed.

[@bucknaked31]

Frost I get that after reading other comments... it’s when I first saw it my reaction was to walk out into the shop from the office and fire him! Lol

[@vladimirkalashnikov1067]

@@coolfrost6 He just killed his vice, sliding parts should be fitted each other with scraping process and vice itself should be fitted with the milling machine table. This is the example of how the scraping process should look: www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/general/scraping-my-chinese-vise-170478/

[@Psychlist1972]

I felt the same way, but then stepped back a little. For the way he's likely to use this vise, it's almost certainly no worse than the cheap vises folks buy new these days. Not sure we'll ever see a test indicator around there :)

[@freebird7284]

congrats on finding the hardest way to refinish it

[@RogierHoogmolen]

damn that lathe makes a lot of metal clanking noises, your sure there is enough oil in the gearbox? or are the bearings f*ck*d up?

[@JMartin2006]

An outstanding job with deepest attention for details. 👏👏👏 It looks more like a miracle than a restoration! 😮

[@warbirdwf]

I enjoyed your video and really appreciate your efforts and hard work in restoring that vise correctly. It turned out great! One suggestion? The music was really tough to listen to and I ended up muting the video. Just an opinion and I'm not trying to be critical but rather, give you some feedback. Again, you did a great job restoring that vise. Well done!

[@telemangreek]

I 've had the same thought.

[@MJS-3000]

11:15 when a vice has a better paint job than my car.

[@ScoutCrafter]

One of my subscribers told me to check out this video... Glad he did! Awesome job! Thanks!

[@torinhalsey6313]

Wow! Great video. Huge variety of angles, great close-ups and well edited. That's a lot of work. Cool vise, too.

[@aliamri1289]

Nice restoration mate!

[@k4kfh]

Great video! But tbh...I wouldn't sand those jaws on a piece of MDF like that, especially with such coarse paper. Those are typically ground and you can get the rust off with chemicals, and polish it with a very fine fiber wheel or something.

[@coolfrost6]

But then again vice jaws are more or less a consumable item so it's not the end of the world. And since he remembered to alternate sanding directions I would be surprised if its much out of true.

[@oslogutt80]

Well jaws are the least problem of any vice...since it's replaceble.

[@CraigsWorkshop]

@@oslogutt80 Jaws for a 50 year old vise are not generally available off the shelf, so that means making some. To make some you need some tool steel (not cheap), a mill, a heat treatment oven for hardening and tempering (and the skills to go with that), and a surface grinder (and the skills to go with that). Those jaws were in pretty good condition and just needed cleaning. Now they're not usable for the purpose the vise was made for.

[@dalekify]

@@oslogutt80 HE didn't replace them, did he?

[@dalekify]

@@CraigsWorkshop Yes. But he has messed up the whole thing anyway. The moment he started to sand the bottom.

[@daveawb]

Loved the video and the result, it's a really beautiful addition to the mill. I don't mind the music so much, but when you're speaking, I'd rather hear you talking! Either way, you've got a new sub from me, keep up the great work.

[@d6c10k4]

Looks nice to go with your mill but.....If you plan on using a vise I'd get an angle-loc style. I had to use those old style vises years ago and hated them. The problem is the jaw trys to lift when you tighten it down. Makes it very frustrating trying to get your work tapped down tight on a pair of parallels. Restoring it as a "period" vise to match your mill is fine but in my opinion they serve better as a boat anchor.

[@Gantzz321]

the lack of grease used during assemble was a bit concerning.

[@Tsamokie]

Among many, many, other faults.

[@Tsamokie]

@_ David _ Here's a couple: Using a power hand sander w/ abrasive pad on the vise base-machine table interface. Hand dressing the jaws tops and bottoms in a back and forth motion, when he should be making figure-eight strokes.

[@overyonderjustapiece]

Maybe he needs to watch more My Mechanics videos???

[@swimcube4680]

@@Tsamokie he was doing figure eights

[@gavin4157]

@_ David _ My question is who tf puts body filler on tools that need to withstand abuse???

[@jayammons3834]

Can’t wait to see this vice used in a new video!

[@MF175mp]

They made beautiful vises back in the day.

[@RossTheGenMan]

Found your channel last weekend and watched a whole bunch of your videos since then. Your awesome. Love the channel.

[@azimpetra]

When taping the parts, instead of using knife to cut the edges, use sandpaper. When paint stripping, wrap the whole thing in cling film, this way, when you unwrap it..most of the stripped paint will carry over with the film, less & faster clean up.

[@jimronchetto8592]

Nice restoration! One thing: I didn't see any lube during assembly. IMO, every metal to metal surface should be lubed during assembly, including screws.

[@hockeygoalie94]

Jim Ronchetto totally agree. Never put a dry screw in a dry hole

[@ytwos1]

Yes, and, that goes for flesh to flesh surfaces as well.

[@floridaed91]

@@ytwos1 LOL

[@borko8325]

ytwos1 i gotta be honest wasnt expecting that joke

[@richardm3366]

Ort M @@ytwos1 pools

[@keithspencersr.6806]

Outstanding work, great video

[@gwendohshidt]

loved the choice of music. great restoration

[@Rappe1967]

Great video! Thanks for taking your time and showing how you work.

[@macedindu829]

Admirable job. Bravo!

[@julioalvarez6294]

Awesome video the difference is definitely in the details you put in.

[@maximiliankrug1011]

man, that's the best vise restoration video I've ever seen. Easy to watch the whole video without skipping 👌👌

[@foofourtyone]

Just a little tip for the next time you're using filler of some kind. If you've applied the filler, just spray some matt color lacker lightly over it, while it's still wet. So, while sanding you can see all the little bumbs and scratches, that you want to sand down. Makes sanding filler quite a lot easier. Besides that... very nice video!

[@rcworxshop]

Fantastic result!! Great work this is the 4th video in a row on your channel, great content 👍🏻

[@ladiandmargaret]

Very nice result, we have exactly the same one in our videos 🤩

[@ShotgunAU]

Only 21.5K subs? Feels like this channel should be 20X that amount, great vids dude.

[@David-hm9ic]

Greetings and hallo from Texas. Your patience is admirable and the key to your success. I just found your channel today and watched the Bridgeport and vise restorations. Could you tell more about the cleaner you used on the Bridgeport? It's not available in the US. I recently sold my milling machine due to the cost of moving it 700 miles (over 1100 km). Your videos will help me make the replacement look good. Beautiful job on the vise! Subscribed. Skål.

[@BLBlackDragon]

Now you need to refinish the rest of the Bridgeport to match that gorgeous blue. ;) (LOL)

[@wozzle68]

Nice a very detailed resto! I can't help but think doing it in hammertone paint again would have looked better.

[@connerhetrick4059]

This video is so satisfying

[@austint19]

Awesome resto. 2 things though: you should get a wire wheel for the rust inside the jaws, and you should always use grease any time there is metal touching metal!

[@dariushmilani6760]

Great restoration job Alexandre. Enjoyed every minute of it. Liked and subscribed.👍

[@johnpipe3188]

Very nice work!

[@FlokrollProjects]

Great vide, and the vice turned out awesome (even better in real life :D ) keep up the good work buddy

[@achappel]

Flokroll Projects thanks man ✌️ can't wait for your next video to come out 🔥

[@watahyahknow]

the hole through the base of the vice is not only there to mount the vice but allso to stick a screwdriver through to loosen those screws you used the extremely short angled screwdriver for

[@achappel]

watahyahknow sure, that worked for two of the screws, but not the back two.

[@watahyahknow]

@@achappel there must be a way to get straight access , i doubt that the factory is putting the vices together with handtools , they wouldnt make a profit so they need to be able to get to the screws some way , a hole through the base or a place where the base is narrower seems to be most logical

[@Michie1391]

Instead of vinegar for rust removal try citric acid in some hot water. Works much faster.

[@restoreandmake]

Absolutely brilliant, your work is a great inspiration for my own videos😊👍

[@NRGv6]

Just randomly found your channel and can't belive that you only have 12.7k subs?! You're amazing and your sense of detail and creativity is through the roof! Saw you had some Biltema products too so I googled you and found out you're from Norway(?) Your English is on point and I can't hear a bit of Norwegian dialect! I'm from Sweden so it's awsome to see a neighbor :D

[@bobbyw9046]

You did an EXCELLENT job!! The only one thing I would have done in addition is to repair the chips on the Vise Jaws by welding and then dressing them. Other than that - it's spectacular!

[@shedmanx3640]

I actually subscribed before you finished. Love your attention to detail. Thanks mate. 🇦🇺👍

[@pietersloft2318]

That looks so good it makes me wanna cry thinking that you have to use it

[@AlphaMachina]

Beautiful work, man. That thing is swanky, now.

[@toolrestoration]

after watching this , im going to have to restore mine !! great restore

[@stevep19561]

nice job well done mate

[@Anmobgoccult20]

Bravo, bravo, bravo, awesome..., Well done, you are an artist, unique and perfectly work, master done, It's a pleasure to watch this work! respect from the old BG. sori for my english.

[@RonakDhakan]

What about those mounting brackets?

[@cablecallen]

What an awesome restoration! Just discovered your channel and subbed. Don’t pay any attention to the ridiculous comments here about your sanding, painting or other techniques you used. It’s your equipment and you took the time to share with us what you did with it and I, for one, am thankful for that. People have nothing better to do then criticize and complain about the hard work and free content that you and other content creators provide. They love to nitpick and find fault with everything you do. I always find it interesting that the ones who complain are the ones who have zero videos to share. What difference does it make that you used Bondo, or sanded the surfaces? It’s your vise, you can do whatever you want to with it. In the end, it is better looking and more functional than when you started. I appreciate the work and the video. Thank you!! 👍🏻😃

[@CraigsWorkshop]

The vise just needed a clean (And possibly a paint). Sanding the jaws though stopped it from being a usable machinists vise. Not just for him (current caretaker) but also the next machinist that comes along and ends up with it. That's what people are complaining about. It's actually less functional than when he started. It was a brilliantly filmed and edited piece though, and the vise looks beautiful now - but it's just not as good as it was, with regards being a precise (useful) vise.

[@dalekify]

@@CraigsWorkshop Yes. It's a very nice looking pile of junk. He was better of with a dirty looking vice that was accurate.

[@eatenkate]

Awesome job, and also the best blue color!

[@SKTWoodDesign]

Great work there. Well done!

[@akquicksilver]

So when is the next custom machine vice show in your area?

[@aac9258]

I loved the video! The music's a bit overkill, but it's ok for the great machine sounds and seeing the restoration, step by step!

[@phillipweaver]

I bet it was a lot lighter after all that work . A very good video

[@freddychang4100]

Great video! 1 question: why apply paddy after red primer? , can’t you just apply the final color on to the red primer?

[@tomakatre3615]

wow nice work, it is old Czechoslovak made, it has no competitor, wery solid vice, widely used in hobby workshops... :)

[@Zachary3DPrints]

This looks amazing! I love the shine on that!

[@restorecreate]

Great restoration my friend,great job and color,keep up the good work !!!!

[@EvoKeremidarov]

Hi... the correct way for surface preparation would be, 1st goes on the body filler which is sanded smooth.. you can apply b/f as many time as you like in till you get a surface that you are happy with... next is 1k etch primer which is an adhesion promoter and rust inhibitor... you don't sand 1k primer.. next is 2k filler primer which you will sand with 600 grit water paper... and last is your top coat.. Otherwise it turned out great

[@haydenyeap2818]

thats one way of doing it then theres also 2k epoxy primer first and then body filler as many times and spot putty then finally filler primer, sand and paint.

[@oslogutt80]

That is how YOU would like to do it. Just accept there are other ways aswell.

[@EvoKeremidarov]

@@oslogutt80 nah mate.. when it comes to surface preparation especially in a panel shop there are strict guidelines that should be followed in order to achieve best long term results as well as save on cost in material... it's not about what I like or I don't.. just industry standards... just like someone else commented before you there are 2k epoxy primers that can go on first but that I s not what he is using here... if you have any knowledge of the automotive repair/refinish industry please share something constructive like I did in my original post instead of just just jumping on the let's-bash-bandwagon without having any knowledge of what are you talking about.

[@livemoreraw2875]

you should have wayyy more subs this was awesome

[@luikausvuoon1939]

14:49 Its called cold blue, because its done cold, without boiling. Real bluings are done with a hot bluing methods, including boiling acids and salts. Also in most cases I wont suggest any kind a like diluting when using those solutions.

[@ag2wardable]

What products were used as the primer and filler? Are they just standard auto body products? Also curious on the product to remove the old rust and paint. The end result looks great!

[@jadeedwards9732]

You should mount the vice in your mill and fly cut the bearing surface to bring it into parallelism

[@thomasthompson6799]

Beautiful restoration of the old vise...maybe too pretty. I must ask how well the body filler will work on a vise. Very nice work!

[@Exypno]

there's no way that this thing is square

[@Cole-xq2tl]

That's what i was thinking. Those jaws have to be .015 out or more now. He'll learn

[@toQCicitte]

im my self a machinist and i cringe so hard watching this

[@MrGaici]

sooooo satisfying to watch)

[@Salvolama]

Color very cool 😎!! Good boy 👍

[@Mr666samuel666]

Нельзя шлифовать рабочие поверхности тисков, теперь это не фрезерные тиски,а металлолом красивый. Чтобы вернуть им точность, необходимо шабрить поверхности с применением поверочных плит и другой точной оснастки

[@Lissopen]

тоже подумал, что станочные тиски превратились в слесарные. а ведь на первых кадрах фрезер, ожидал, что он как минимум на нем "обкатает" и профрезерует все базовые и рабочие плоскости.

[@Mr666samuel666]

Lissopen там скорее всего они калёные и с фрезеровкой будут танцы с бубном, я недавно советские тиски станочные реставрировал, за не имением плоскошлифа и поверочного инструмента, губки шлифовал вручную на стекле с применением воды и листового образива, заусенцы убрал, конечно ни о какой точности и речи не может быть но более менее можно делать не ответственные вещи

[@fabiandaroca]

Beautiful Restoration!!!!!!!!

[@mjdegraaff86]

Awesome restoration!

[@lifestylemodificatio]

Quality work 👍

[@albertlu8407]

This color is beautiful!

[@TheGrainDoctor]

Beautiful restoration (also the Bridgeport). Subscribed, looking forward to more!

[@korsez]

I enjoy watching him making this wise even more precise than it was out of the factory:D

[@vladimirkalashnikov1067]

Unfortunately no, this vice is now ruined, it is not a machine vice anymore. If you need more information then google for scraping process and dial gauges.

[@morganfreeman5171]

I must say this one was maybe over the top.... And the less you take of machined surfaces the better ;)

[@matyasmayer]

you deserve so much more views

[@charlesdefrancisco5056]

Very nice job...you are a craftsman

[@ThePatrickmayr]

Nice Job!

[@KennyPhases]

This is awesome! Love the color you chose too! And as for the people worried about the levelness and eveness after he sanded it, there are ways around this, you can adjust the machine to counter whatever is off about the new VICE, so yeah, everybody chill, this guy clearly knows what he is doing. Also, why would anybody ever down-vote this? I'm starting to think that the down-vote button is just a jealousy button. You guys wish you had this dude's shop. If I could add TWO upvotes, i WOULD. Cheers Alex, keep up the awesome work!

[@excitedbox5705]

He clearly doesn`t or he wouldn´t have sanded precision surfacs on a mdf board. MDF is pressed saw dust that shit is more warped per inch than a banana.

[@KennyPhases]

@@excitedbox5705 While you make a great point, the machine he's using can surely be adjusted to make up for any errors. I have no doubts that his milling machine can still get the job done with that vice so long as it's leveled first or the machine is adjusted to make the first passes level.

[@excitedbox5705]

@@KennyPhases No, that is really not the case. You could spend about 5-10 minutes for every single item you mount in that vise to use an indicator and make sure it is level/square and do that for every time you turn or readjust it but that will take you an extra hour for every item you make on that mill. If you don´t do that your errors multiply very quickly. Even wiping dust off a surface makes a difference in accuracy. By the time you get to the 3rd side the part is unusable for anything but looking pretty. Also keep in mind he is showing other people how to do this and if someone is looking up how to clean up or repair a mill and follows his steps they will destroy their equipment as well. These tools are VERY expensive and run into the hundreds if not thousands of dollars. I feel you have a responsibility to spread accurate information. What he is doing is not as dangerous as working with electricity but imagine someone showing how to put in cabling without circuit breakers. A while ago some 12, 13 year old girls saw a video of how to make popcorn with a rubbing alcohol burner and soda can on youtube and tried to imitate it. 1 died and the other burned over 80% of her body.

[@bengrogan9710]

@@excitedbox5705 The amount of rubbing he did on these amounts to around a thou at most - The parts you are worried about are largely inconsequential as any new slack is adjusted out by the gibbs of the dovetails, not the machine itself which are the main element other than that the only concern that holds marginal merit is the base of the vice itself The fixation on the idea of "oh its not square" in comments is mostly a sign of people repeating info without context - What he did here is at worst going to change that vice by a thou - for real scale that is 0.025mm or a half a sheet of typical A4 paper He is unlikely to ever need to machine to that resolution which makes the discussion academic only

[@andresmelcas]

te ha quedado de cine

[@Core2]

Amazing restoration, it's a different kind of restoration video and i like it, subscribed!

[@joshmellon390]

You got lucky peeling that tape after the paint dried lol. Beautiful vise.