Star Wars vs Eve Online - Star Destroyer Attacked by Machariel Battleship!

After the Battle of Endor the Star Destroyer makes an emergency jump and ends up in the New Eden star cluster where it must defend itself against a capsuleer pirate in a Machariel Battleship!
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[@resurrectedstarships]

Due to popular demand, working on part 2 now. ETA september 9th or 10th depending on progress. Stay tuned! :) Thanks for all the comments!

[@FiauraTheTankGirlGamer]

Hi there! I'm a Fleet Commander in Eve Online and if you want to do these videos we have potential do a collaboration with you having the knowledge of Star Wars and My knowledge of Eve Online. Contact me if you are interested my email is pretty public.

[@christiandauz3742]

I wonder what would happen if EVE Online (32 years in the past) made contact with Star Wars during the first movie? (Disney Cannon) No way Palpatine and Plaguise's plans are going to work this time around What advantages would there be for the Five EVE Empires and minor factions to use and integrate SW tech into their own? Would Naboo plead with the EVE Factions for assistance in exchange for something? Would the Clone and Droid Armies still exist? How would the Jedi react to all of this? Especially the slavery of the Amarr and the very liberal (understatement) lives of the Gallente? The cybernetic transformation of the Jovian people? Capsulers? EVE Cloning and Droid development? How popular would the life-extending and 'immortality' EVE technology be in Star Wars? Would the Galente, Minnitauri, and/or Caldari attempt to join the Old Republic? Subvert it to join one of them? Would the Amarr Empire be an ally of the Separatist or become its new leader? Would neutral nations in Star Wars join one of the Five Empires? If so, which neutral faction joins which EVE Empire? Would the Jovians attempt to use SW tech to cure them of their depression-inducing sickness? Would there be a massive population explosion due to massive interbreeding? Intensive colonization of both Universes? Would the criminal organizations of Star Wars be subjugated by the EVE Outlaw Factions? How would the storyline of both franchises change? Force User Capsulers would be very dangerous combatants Imagine how deadly Thrawn would be as a Capsuler! Wouldn't surprised me if the Amarr, Caldari and Jovians attempt to turn their people into Force Users! (Possible in both Disney Cannon and Legends EU) Can Capsulers have children?

[@scottaskinazi7229]

@Resurrected Starship it doesn't seem well-balanced. Your narrative is too controlled. You have Capital ships from Star Wars; the largest, and some of the largest ships from Star Wars against battleships from Eve Online. Not a fair match don't you think? Eve Online has much more than, and stronger ships then battleships. If you're going to limit this to Eve Online battleships then limit Star Wars ships as well.

[@Lucinda666]

Resurrected Starships WTF WHY WITH FUCKEN STAR WARS!!!💩💩💩

[@haomingxia2109]

@@christiandauz3742 In New Eden, they use cloning vats. Also capsuleers are infertile.

[@RyanShaw-z8u]

"Titan tactics" involve dropping in as many of them as you can with a support fleet and DDing your target into oblivion.

[@JulesR963]

I died when they flew to wormhole space and thought: "We'll be safe here, there's no stargate and no one in local"

[@darkhorse13golfgaming]

As a wormholer with an aggressive streak I will say that J-Space is not safe for other wormholers, let alone....outsiders 🤣

[@zeehero7280]

@@darkhorse13golfgaming Wormhole gang 4 life

[@goofytycooner5519]

“Interstellar empires thrived that could rival those of the Star Wars universe” Last I checked the Empire didnt throw 250 SSDs at the enemy fleet to protect a station

[@spookyyy3]

Why am I always finding your ass on every comment section. And by every comment section I mean 3 that I can't remember.

[@Abdukctkaz]

Ah, the legendary Cloaky Proteus is now watching the Star Destroyer now, sitting a scant few KM from it... And is of course, currently calling the rest of his WH buddies to shoot this "Weird ass Hurricane"

[@resurrectedstarships]

Hurricane with umm White Knight skin from concord! Available for 900 million isk!

[@NorBdelta]

"Weird ass hurricane" I like it

[@Dredi]

Laser hurricane? 10/10 comedy killmail incoming

[@RsCombe1990]

isk? just 900 plex

[@luskarian4055]

FC can I bring my Star Destroyer

[@GenesisAria]

"Looks like a bastardized hurricane" Sounds like poor star destroyer landed in Jove space . . . time to get atomized.

[@DoctorWrecks]

"too high on boosters to assist him" i cackled.

[@roadraider6266]

Realistic since the Capsuleer starts shooting before understanding what he actually shoots at...

[@MidnightSt]

"What the hell kinda ship is that? Looks like a bastardized hurricane." Yeah, that kind of reaction from a capsuleer sounds about right =D Note to whoever might be in charge: Never let us lead actual first contact =D

[@Spartan135]

knowing how the galactic empire treated their own population and how brutally they destroyed,enlaved and decimated planets and people for no reason... agression is totally justified.

[@MidnightSt]

@@Spartan135 knowing how in the context of the video, nobody knows anything about galactic empire, therefore all they're acting on is just disliking how the ship looks... ...aggression is totally unjustified and dumb.

[@thorveim1174]

@@MidnightSt Its not a dislike. Its more that EvE players are loot goblins, and will absolutely murder any ship thats not aligned with their own alliance for shits, giggles, and bragging about having killed something potentially rare and valuable. And you BET the prospect of killing a ship no one has ever seen would make most eve players salivate with envy. capsuleers do this among eachotehr on a daily basis, so you bet an outsider would see no mercy given. Overall, you gotta remember that the player behaviour in the game IS canon to EvE online, and these people need no other justification for war than "because its fun"

[@carlomolina7858]

This could possibly start a series about the Avenger's exploits in Eve online's universe.

[@TheFirstLanx]

Let's face it, everyone and their mother would hotdrop it eventually XD

[@ocelotmadness6287]

Yeah or until a keepstar ddomsdays it xD

[@P.G13]

Aaron88 not sure I’m late but which star destroyer you want

[@sen8301]

In my experience, as both a Machariel pilot in the past as well as many times a victim, once a Mach decides to ruin your day, they're going to succeed. It's just going to happen, may as well bend over and get it over with.

[@sen8301]

A fully trained Mach pilot can fly that thing so fast that your guns have no time to aim, meanwhile it's hammering your ship with top of the line weaponry. Good luck.

[@ShadowareCo]

​@@sen8301 what about L sized blasters, like on Megathrone or Vindicator? 😀

[@thorveim1174]

@@ShadowareCo these can win the DPS race.... issue is, they are really short range, and sicne those ships are so slow compared to a machariel, getting in range is unlikely to happen without help

[@danielsteen1594]

SAFE? in W-space??? ROFL

[@anupew3276]

hush, they don't know... Yet. :D

[@rookonzo1436]

Daniel Steen cloaked proteus just off his bow already.

[@TheFirstLanx]

I lived in WH space for a while, never felt more safe! You should come over some time, it's very relaxing!

[@fightingtypegymleadermicha1539]

it's safe so long as you have a plan to kill everyone you meet

[@nomangreybeard535]

Police force used to protect victims

[@Amber-vn2le]

"an unusual amount of nebula" gotta love that eve bagground

[@nailboard6492]

I'm the CEO of Carolingian "Congress of Imperial Knights" under the "Almost Underdogs" Alliance. Love this channel, I love Star Wars and I love EVE. It would be awesome if you could bring EVE into some of these match ups more! There's not enough EVE theory-like content on KZbin! *****

[@fortkavanagh]

will you be doing an episode 2 of Star Wars vs Eve Online - Star Destroyer Attacked by Machariel Battleship, I'd love to hear more?

[@thedubstepaddict3675]

This was beautiful! Lovely story - oriented versus! Slowly getting tired of the stats - comparing stuff.

[@WarbirdPhoenix]

The only thing this story needs now is a groovy 60's style star wars theme and slap on the title. Star Wars:Lost in EVE CCP Games,potential April fools probe scanner result gag,hint,hint,lol

[@shadxw_hunter]

"what the hell kind of ship is that? it looks like a bastardized hurricane"

[@resurrectedstarships]

This one ended up being MUCH longer than intended - oh well. Im still learning this stuff lol!

[@krimsonfel3676]

Resurrected Starships Part 2 please!

[@psoma_brufd]

It was good though, I wanted the Avenger to win because I hate those damned pirates! And it is one loss of life against thousands, plus the Avenger crew have just fled from the disaster and are light years out and away (literally) from their people and time.

[@VainerCactus0]

Well, now the Avenger is stuck in a Wormhole with scary Wormhole people. Part 2 would be very short.

[@venumV2]

please do another of these this is awesome i want him to go to jita and get scammed xD oh and some mission running and null sec ofc

[@angeltensey]

See how it gonna be: they will fight one vs one for the first 20 seconds, then some mach's frinds will join the fight and will literally alpha the avenger.

[@rookonzo1436]

Great stuff. Star Wars eve overlap is a great idea! I don't think the Empire is ready for the salt or our Reddit super weapons.

[@sammo2207]

You missed out the part where the star destroyer corp gets wardecced by 15 grief corps instantly while 100 code catalyst destroyers gank and destroy it as it exited its travel and inform them that they didn't purchase a mining permit and should have for 50 million isk. Just to make sure it goes down, they call in a cyno beacon and 20 titans land on top of the star destroyer just to make sure.

[@christiandauz3742]

Assuming this is post-Endor Legends: -Yes, the EVE factions gang up on the Imperial Remnants on EVE space, destroy or capture them and then reverse-engineer their tech -Then they invade Star Wars -The Rebels/New Republic allies with the Gallente -The Imperial Remnants are wiped out within a few weeks, survivors join the New Republic or the EVE factions -Yuuzhan Vong are found out and immediately exterminated with the few survivors joining the EVE factions -The Gallente-New Republic Alliance attacks the Caldari and is winning -Expect Han Solo and other people to instigate Slave Rebellions in the Amarr Empire -The Mandalorians and Chiss become client states of the Minntauri Republic and attack the weakened Amarr -Out of desparation, the Amarr and Caldari form an alliance -The Gallente, Minntauri and their allies also work together -Eventually the Gallente-Minntauri Confederation crushes the Amarr and Caldari and takes most of their territories -Unfortunately, relations between the Gallente and Minntauri sore and their break up their alliance -Meanwhile, the Jovians manage to cure themselves and start peacefully assimilating many minor factions in Star Wars

[@GovGenMarcusKerensky]

This. o7

[@haomingxia2109]

@@christiandauz3742 the Calidari and Amar are already allied. If you remove CONCORD from the equation you will get Amar single handedly crushing the Minmatar, and judging by how Calidari is winning in Factional Warfare against the Gallente, you can say the same for the Calidari.

[@christiandauz3742]

@@haomingxia2109 Wouldn't the Jovians interfere and give support to the Galente and Minmatars? Star Wars is not a war sci-fi compared to other universes Heck, EVE Online is not a bad place to live

[@haomingxia2109]

@@christiandauz3742 Well, the Jovians goal is to have all 4 empires at the same level of technology so they don't have an interstarcluster war. My guess is that they will probably do something like invite them to CONCORD.

[@Gaaaaaaabrrrrrrriel]

ok this need a part 2

[@CaptPatrick01]

Have them stumble on one of those wormhole systems, filled with those endless legions of sleeper drones?

[@uethuegiegjtreriopjg]

Lol, have them stumble on Hard Knocks C6

[@derlars3685]

uethuegiegjtreriopjg their home is a c5

[@kerbodynamicx472]

Star destroyer -Relies on shield for defense -Uses plasma-based weaponry, like the blasters commonly used by Gallente

[@titaniummechsx3324]

So it makes it like a combination of Gallente and Caldari

[@GabbieTheFox]

How this would really go down... Star Destroyer exits hyperspace uncloaked (since in EVE whenever you use a jump-gate there is a mechanic in the game where residual energy cloaks your ship for 1 minute or until you start moving under your own power, whichever comes first. A hyperspace jump would not provide this benefit.) and gets suicide ganked immediately. XD

[@richcole2314]

Star destroyer exits hyper space in Tama 12km off Nourvukaiken gate, the end

[@karkkosvolfe]

Correction, wrt lore, Eve Online ships can FTL between systems under their own power. However, it is considered not as efficient compared to jumpgates. Additionally, from a tactical and strategic standpoint there is an advantage to using jumpgates. Specifically, all your ships arrive simultaneously rather than strung out due to differences in mass, FTL speed, etc.

[@Tonydjjokerit]

Just wait until it meets a Drifter Battleship! The Star Destroyer will be toast!!!!

[@sunytis123]

indead

[@cormack6349]

a super star destroyer would get shat on if it attacked the drifters.

[@loganmontgomery2597]

Tonydjjokerit no the Star destroyer should have won

[@potatusvicious9734]

LOL, no.

[@loganmontgomery2597]

Potatus Vicious lol yes

[@bladeclanhalo3]

the only issue i have is that, is a star destroyer tractor beam able to pull in a ship, that is effectively the same size as the destroyer itself

[@WhiteWeaseI]

0:50 I can't emphasize how much I praise you for that decision. Most numbers listed are arbitrary or poorly researched anyways, so I feel comparing them based on what they can do "on screen" makes what-if battles more interesting.

[@ddddddd5425]

I liked the story very much and decided to look up the numbers. Star wars ships can shoot thousands of km hahahah, aside from that its surprisingly equivalent. edit: apparently in some of the books they have special long range turbo lasers that can shoot 1.3 au lol

[@draxx85]

Hope u continue this story of the star destroyer lost in New Eden :)

[@randomtvninja]

I found this cause I was trying to find a video that was the roci from the expanse in comparison to eve online.. if you still make videos like this that would be awesome.

[@Rickymcdd]

Tbh the star Destoryer would Vaporize the Machariel in seconds, the fire power on it would out class any ship or fleet of ships in the game. The common belief is that a ISDs carry 60 turbolasers (some say upto 200) each can average around 8 million terawatts of firepower, that is comperable to detonation of a 1900 Megaton nuclear bomb every second.

[@croskerk]

Objection! There is a lot of shield types and defense, I do not know fully on both types of universes capabilities, but to be honest, going underneath the ship should be a better strategy, and if point blank, there is a huge weakeness if they are broadsiding, and that is targeting the external command structrue, since obviously that is the weakest thing on the ship, even not penning it, it will give enough shock effect to knock out all of the officers within the bridge

[@jacobnunya808]

This is probably the case. The odds that they would be near evenly matched is extremely slim in any case.

[@PsychoSubSandwich]

Battleship sized guns in EVE are magnitudes larger than the ones found on most Star Wars vessels, on average. Even so, one of the Imperial-class Star Destroyer's turbolaser batteries would probably have the same dps as a medium blaster turret in EVE. Considering it canonically has sixty (60) heavy turbolaser batteries, a Star Destroyer could probably mulch most battleships in EVE if it actually had a tackler to hold down the target lmao.

[@duranpredur1098]

"Would probably have"?

[@sethkolias7701]

If we were talking about Star Wars legends numbers, any ship in EVE would be obliterated

[@christiandauz3742]

@@sethkolias7701 Has EVE ships actually hit and destroy planets with stray shots? How effective are EVE ships when going through asteroid fields?

[@scotcheggtheguyguy8009]

@@christiandauz3742 In the EVE lore, Titan-class ships passing close to planets cause extinction level events just by passing close to them. Asteroid fields are easy to navigate and cause no damage, but are annoying. If we're getting nitpicky, EVE ships could go on the underside of the Star Destroyer, since there are no guns on that side (at least not shown). Though, thats less of a failing of Star Wars and more of one on whoever designed the Star Destroyer to be vulnerable on one side

[@christiandauz3742]

@@scotcheggtheguyguy8009 Then why hasn't one side won in EVE by blowing up the main planets of their enemies? Surely the destruction of a Capital Planet would make the entire faction surrender?

[@BreadApologist]

OMG ive wanted to see a video like this for freaking ages!

[@jestahead]

I was wondering when someone would do something like this! Very enjoyable video and you've earned yourself a sub mate :) If Star Wars ships and weapons can be quantified then it should be pretty easy to do a direct comparison as CCP give us a lot of information. That said, these two ships are designed for very different purposes and this is reflected in their armament. The mach is for shooting other big ships and the SD seems to be more for space superiority with its fighters and smaller but more numerous guns. Not a huge SW buff but I recall that in the films the turbolasers are capable of hitting fighters as they whizz by less than a kilometer away, good luck doing that with any of the turrets available in EVE. I'd love to see your take on the old republic or empire being invaded by a large alliance. Hell, maybe the story could be that gigX gets so angry that he collapses into a wormhole, sucking the entire region of Impass into the outer rim, along with many confused pilots.

[@th3comb1ne13]

Leviathan Titan vs Executor Super Star Destroyer

[@priestsofsyrinx3071]

Would have lived if it was a shield titan?

[@th3comb1ne13]

Priests of Syrinx I don't know much about eve but I know the Caldari like to shield tank.

[@th3comb1ne13]

Ben M Personally The Leviathan is the best looking Titan in my opinion.

[@Tesskr95]

Pretty sure the doomsday weapon on any titan would cut that ship in half, but maybe that's just me.

[@potatusvicious9734]

Caldari caps are lame, Erebus FTW.

[@MeUngaBungaButYouAreWorst]

I have strongly liked all the three part of this wonderful story since i love the two universes thank you for this wonderful content

[@grimairbrush1047]

The star destoryer would be heavily ganked and destroyed within no time

[@zxzxjameszxzx]

*connects to local chat* *everyone in system collectively shits as several hundred thousand people flood the channel*

[@fightingtypegymleadermicha1539]

prompting a cyno to be lit and a few dozen titans to enter system

[@cezary150199]

And now random Astero comes. And destroy star Destroyer. End of the story.

[@andrewx8888]

Cirind and then the avatar Titan shows up, and everything is gone.

[@cezary150199]

And than CCP comes and delete it all.

[@rikilamaru]

@ressurected starships you should have eve-scout/signal cartel rescue them :D

[@fightingtypegymleadermicha1539]

blow up those annoying cans whenever I see them in corp we have a 100m bounty for whoever screenshots themself blowing it up in our hole

[@memotype]

This was a fun video, thanks for making it. The only correction I would make is that J-space is not just unmapped star systems without jump gates in New Eden, they are actually in a separate but nearby galaxy called Anoikis. Anyways, I enjoyed the video.

[@resurrectedstarships]

Ah very interesting. So I wonder...is the new Eden Cluster hanging out in intergalactic space separate from a galaxy, kind of like a megellanic cloud? And could Anoikis actually maybe BE the star wars galaxy only at a different time! :)

[@memotype]

Resurrected Starships no, I'm pretty sure New Eden is just a normal galaxy, and Anoikis is just a different galaxy nearby.

[@KaneinEncanto]

More likely the Imperials would have made a poor choice and landed themselves in Jove space, no stargates connecting to the larger part of the cluster but still internal stargate connections between a dozen or so systems... if they bumped into Jovian who was in the final stages of the dreaded Jovian Disease... they probably wouldn't last more than a few minutes... Jovian ships & weaponry make the rest of New Eden look like we're playing with children's toys...

[@Rschaltegger]

Anoikis is the sleeper name for WH systems...they are in the area of the new eden cluster.

[@fightingtypegymleadermicha1539]

KaneinEncanto jove are like the dark age of technology humans on 40k they would decimate imperium of man shit let alone galactic empite shit

[@NCThomas821]

I found a hole in this scenario. As soon as word of the ISD appearing in lowsec, capsuleers from all over the cluster would arrive to blow it up for fun.

[@michaeltech7506]

You could create a whole series about this ship.

[@scipug3048]

a 1v1? everybody knows that star destroyers first encounter would have been a 1v20 vs a gank.

[@RiffDevin]

I've always loved the concept of Eve but I find it really difficult to get into even in a little bit.

[@vadymvolodko7252]

It's so good to see that, this year I'll also using CinemaVariety to watching that

[@icfr0st78]

heheh Of course EVE would win. i'd love to see an imperial fleet vs a massive EVE Online capital fleet

[@platiuscyndar9017]

Capsuleers probably have as many titans as the empire has star destroyers

[@kerbodynamicx472]

Normal ISD would qualify as a battleship, And SSD would qualify as titans.

[@matt-2203]

hurricane using energy weapons that kill report would be comedy gold

[@Korraganitar]

Rewatching this, a question occurs to me... If the Mach was neuting enough to turn of modules, how did the Avenger have enough Cap left to activate it's hyperdrive?

[@Awulf]

Loved the story line of this. Excellent job. Been thinking of directing my videos in a more story line approach. This gives me hope. :) Thumbs up and subbed.

[@SD78]

Mach bumps Star Destroyer off the undock then alpha's it with 1400mm arty.

[@flyingpharoah4867]

Nope! The Avenger can't use it's hyperdrive in the EVE universe because there aren't any known hyperdrive lanes. Moreover, Star Wars star destroyers lack shielding, except in certain Star Wars Legends comics.

[@Hawkeyes6400]

Nice video, Max. Im an eve-online veteran playing on my 8th year and my money was definately on the Mach.

[@priestsofsyrinx3071]

It would be interesting to see Darth Vaders's flagship and my Avatar.

[@AnomalyVoid]

Based on the fact that EVE is an MMO with ever evolving gear. I'm pretty sure EVE wins every conceptional battle that's relatively fair.

[@kinjiru731]

A solid attempt at trying to balance sides in a completely imbalanced premise. Unfortunately, there's so much more freedom in abilities and technology on EVE's side, so it's a bit like pitting two boxers in a match, but one is allowed to use magic as well.

[@anjhindul]

Very interesting take here Max, I honestly don't know for sure that the star destroyer could really even hurt the Mach, But hey, I run a corp called Freedom 101, we don't like pirates to much though :) but we do run with the Mordus Angels :) Fly safe, and remember, if it moves shoot it. If it doesn't move shoot it anyway, it might move later. If it starts to move, jam it and call for backup :)

[@ssgbeowulf6350]

You completely forgot about the ships size, mass, etc,.. relative to light speed after the black hole. Unless there is a field separating the ship from space time; the ship is not going to survive light speed.

[@suzumiyaharuhi3438]

The modern day aircraft carriers are only 300 or so meters long, and they carry more fighters than those 5km-long SDs do.

[@whipkerm]

I would have loved to see the ISD go against a Kronos to be honest, but Mach's are still decent

[@jameshanlon5689]

Imagine if Darth Sidious was able to have his own version of the Capsuleer for the empire and the equipment that went with them. How much death and destruction could he wreak on the Star Wars Galaxy. What say you all?

[@mill2712]

I'd imagine that he would discover that the capsuleeer tech from EVE would work perfectly as was described but with one small issue... If he uses it, he permanently cuts himself off from the force.

[@jameshanlon5689]

@@mill2712 : Who said that he would use it. Maybe he would make some poor clone or some other shmuck of a storm trooper do it and see how he can manipulate him.

[@jordanheeren1424]

the eve ship is screwed if not supported by a massive fleet , as the mach, can only deploy 5 drones, as the starwars ship can deploy over 50, the drones strength alone would be the equalivant to assault of catalysts in swarm attacking freighters..., granted the guns tracking issues is nearly none -existant since the sig radius of the starwars ship is so massive, while the mach is tiny on comparison, one must also consider the sheer number and selection of weapons a starwars ship of that size has. range and tracking would not be an issue, as it can simply select what weapon to use, while also taking into consideration, the mach can only sport 7 guns, while the starwars ship can easily support over 5 times that. plus, the starwars ship has "expendable" assests, while the mach does not. simply put, there is no eve ship that fights mid to close range that can stand up to starwars ship of that type, but a titan could easily take it, as the doomsday weapons can literally break the ship inhalf with a single hit. but a mach...pff...its not a match in anyway, the interceptors sheer collective firepower and speed easily take the mach, kinda like a large number of eve fregits would if they that high a number

[@ShionWinkler]

A more realistic version of this battle, A few moments after it locks on the ISD, scrams and webs it, it lights a cyno and 40 of the Machariel's buddies hot drop in and blap the ISD into scrap. Welcome to Eve Online 😎

[@nzlhunta3730]

Awesome Vid.. I'm new to Eve but i am finding it very in depth and there is a lot to learn

[@hiroki_rinn]

The Mach should rock the SW boat.

[@elenplays]

"Looks like a bastardized hurricane", I laughed.

[@obdo32]

Thought this was going to be a terrible comparison video. Shit Fit Mach shulda plugged his holes but this video turned out awesome. Loved your story with it and thought the capsuleer was very representative of both the playerbase and the actual lore, although no mention of the hotdrop meta. Dank solo frags.

[@InvokeZero]

I really enjoyed this video. As an EVE Online player since 2008, I'm pretty familiar with the Machariel. After watching this, I have to disagree with your verdict. As much as I love EVE and its ships, I actually have to hand this victory to the Avenger. I go into some further nitty-gritty details, but they are - in my opinion - enough to flip the scrip of this pretty heavily the other direction. The 72 Tie Fighters is pretty severely underestimated. Given each ship is capable of three classes of drone/fighter support, I'll base each tie fighter on a drone type for comparison using your Tie Bomber to Heavy Drone as a benchmark: - Tie Interceptor = Acolyte I - Light Scout Drone - Tie LN = Infiltrator I - Medium Scout Drone - Tie Bomber = Praetor I - Heavy Combat Drone I based the comparison off of the Amarr drones since their damage types would most likely be the same EM/Thermal variation. It's also important to consider the potential damage output. A perfectly-skilled pilot using the above mentioned drones, without any ship mods, can hit the following DPS amounts: - 24 Acolyte I's - 312 dps - 24 Infiltrator I's - 504 dps - 24 Praetor I's - 1,008 dps Combined, that is 1,824 total damage per second with just Tie Fighter support alone. Relative to EVE's combat numbers... that is a lot of damage. That is A LOT of damage. For comparison, that particular Machariel fit, with perfect skills, in the absolute best possible range/transversal scenario is capable of a maximum of 960 dps with its guns alone using the higher damage ammo mentioned in the video (Republic Fleet Phased Plasma, because PVP never uses T1 ammo). It can go up to 1,104 dps if the guns are 'overheated' pushing them beyond their normal specs at the cost of damaging them, but only for a VERY short period of time before the guns burn out and stop working. This damage drops off to 765dps when switched to Barrage - again, in an absolute best case scenario. The DPS you see in the video would be taking into consideration the Mach's Hammerhead drone damage on top of its guns. So effectively, the Tie fighter support alone is ~1.5x the Machariel's best dps. This is before the Avenger even fires its first salvo. Also, the Machariel only has 125m3 drone capacity, meaning it can - at best - house 15 light drones, and 5 medium drones, or 10 medium drones and 5 light drones. Either of which would be fully-dispatched by 72 fighters. Even if we consider 36 of them - the Tie Bombers - are focusing on the Machariel, 36 Tie Fighters would absolutely swarm and kill the Machariel's drones, especially considering Hobgoblin and Hammerhead drones are the slowest drones of their size class. However, all of this stops mattering if the fight lasts long enough for the Machariel to activate the MWD. The Tie fighter's maximum speeds are ~350m/s, which is faster than the Machariel, until it uses the MWD which accelerates it up to 1,828 m/s. At that point the Tie Fighters would only matter after the Avenger managed to Tractor Beam it back into close combat range. In the end, the way I would see the fight going - realistically - is that the Machariel would immediately warp off if it saw SEVENTY TWO 'drones' launch from a Battleship sized vessel. However, if it stayed, it's safe to assume given the suggested output of damage - the Mach would lose all of its shields in the first minute or two of fighting, kite to range where the Avenger uses the Tractor Beam to pull it back in. However it would still have at least some of its fighter support remaining, and instead of it warping off, it would have enough damage support on field to force the Machariel pilot to warp off. However - after that I absolutely envision - because it's lowsec - that the Avenger would shortly be introduced to what we in EVE refer to as a 'Hot Drop' where a ship would decloak a few kilometers off of the Avenger's bow, light a beacon and a dozen Capital Class Carriers and Dreadoughts would appear from their own Jump Drives. Assuming the Avenger takes longer than 5-10 seconds to spool up and enter a warp... it would likely be volleyed off the field in the first one to two salvo's of Dreadnought fire. After which the surviving crew would be met with various 'GF' symbols in their communicators.

[@michaeljohnmclean1268]

I have done maths but to escape blackhole You must travel faster than the speed of light which would mean writing going back in time not forwards

[@KaneinEncanto]

Only if you passed inside the Schwarzschild Radius, if you kept outside of that you could still escape under the speed of light... but you'd still be pushing a good fraction of it.

[@leeleavelle716]

You forgot where it gets jumped by bombers bar and torpedoed into oblivion

[@ShionWinkler]

"looks like a bastardized Hurricane" Hey, in rust we trust! 🤣

[@VaImorian]

Being a fan of both Star Wars and EVE online, that Star Destroyer would wipe the floor with that Mach LOL no sweat But in a "Real EVE scenario" cyno would be green and it would be hot dropped by like everything....

[@elgatoburgues809]

Any Eve faction would outproduce the SW galaxy. a ISD takes more than a decade to be constructed, while a Titan 10 times larger takes just 2 months. Gathering info would be easier considering every time a capsuleer dies he gets all his memories and can be ready to pilot the next ship.

[@larryfoullke219]

the simple fact is when this guy tells his mates everyone is going to go hunting destroyers.

[@zereimu]

lol Would be funny to see it fight an eve dread with high angle guns. Although technically a Machariel could destroy the star destroyer, EVE technology surpasses starwars by quite a bit.

[@mrcuddle3261]

6:15 I miss my captains quarters :(

[@lukson981]

Cool video. but there are few mistakes you have made. The way physics in eve work, is that it's all connected to gravity wells(reason why ships can't go faster than selected speed, even tho they are in space). EVE Ships use gravity for everything, capacitors, movement, jumps ect. So every utility that they have (neuts, webs, scrams) are to work against ships built specifically in New Eden(as every ship uses same type of technology). However, Star Destroyer was not built in New Eden, It doesn't have PEGs(which is thing that connects eve ships to gravity power to use everything), so things such as webifiers and grapplers or neutralizers won't work on it P.S Waiting for part 2!

[@resurrectedstarships]

If you would write an article for that on imperium new network or evenews24 i would give that a read. Theoretical physics for scifi is really interesting.

[@zoranhome]

This is rhe best vs video I have ever watched. If i wasn't already involved with the best corp and alliance i would beg for membership in IBH.

[@davepflepsen2450]

Very cool, well thought out. Unfortunately, I am now looking at him 4000m away and a fleet of strategic cruisers will be landing in 45 sec to burn the "Weird Hurricane" out of my sky!

[@kendog84bsc]

Such a nice episode! Had a great fun watching

[@ThroatSore]

But then, as the story goes on, I am strangely won over. Gah, this is fun, I have to admit it :)

[@noahbirdrevolution]

Not bad. Good work with the nuance!

[@ThroatSore]

These ships are in no way comparable. A star destroyer v a Super carrier or titan would me more like it.

[@fightingtypegymleadermicha1539]

ssd vs titan would be not that fair since I don't think an ssd would survive a doomsday, let alone a regular ISD

[@SupCom78]

Great Video we Need a Part 2 from it. I am courious what happens if a Abas BS or a T3 Cruiser Encounter the Avenger. Be be from a another empire Caldari or Amar ? btw Thumps up from me. ;)

[@Langermar]

1 vs 1 in EVE? I don't believe, there is a carrier somewhere ready for hotdrop

[@verios44]

Jumps to J space just to find a sleeper swarm, or straight into range of a keepstar

[@jashanpreet8638]

Na very less wh have keepstar

[@friendlytargets1522]

The sheer story and effort put into the video is wonderful! Good work :)

[@c0278x]

LMFAO! The mach would just hotdrop a couple caps on te SD and OMGWTFPWNBBQ the damn thing! 😂

[@duranpredur1098]

Well, it seemed that he didnt had Cyno, as most pilots do!

[@loganmontgomery2597]

There's a new Star Wars short film that mentions it but I don't know what the name would be I'll look it up

[@GlidingChiller]

Inb4 the Avenger gets popped by 12 gate campiong suicide Catalysts.

[@kivakorkoskold]

But like, why the shitfit on the Machariel? Scram, Grappler, SHIELD BUFFER TANK, Duel Nanofibers... PICK A FIT, EITHER BRAWL OR KITE BUT STOP DOING THIS.

[@resurrectedstarships]

I'll explain. Shield Machariels are VERY viable. You can get a machariel to fly far faster than most cruisers, overtake, and blap! You need nanfoibers and shields to get the speed up. You can make an argument for x-large shield booster if ya like, but oterh than that there is nothing wrong with shield machariel. Also barrage ammo for t2 guns has a very nice optimal - damage not always good but great optimal, its one of the reason autocannons are the most versatile turrets in the game due to all the ammo types - switching to barrage in order to reach out and touch is done all the time. Machariels can be armor or shield fit. Look into it! ;)

[@kivakorkoskold]

That's all well and good, but why does it have a scram, the thing about shield machariels is that unless you are exclusively killing squishy cruisers and immediately running away from anything that can fight back you're going to die, that goes double if you have a buffer fit, shield machariels are very squishy and very good at kiting because you can still apply excellently with close range ammo at around 25-30km which is where you want to be, you'll be applying fully, neuting fully, and taking much less damage with a much higher chance to escape if shit hits the fan, your fit is going to die to anything that puts up more of a fight than a baby seal would.

[@thealmanac_4935]

i too noticed the mach fit was aweful

[@loyalist3484]

I wanna play eve again now!

[@Daskellhounds]

Why not the hurricane, space pizza verse space pizza?

[@omertrnk5397]

If capsuleers are immortal, sw has no chance xd

[@shiijin]

A shadow ship shows up and both the machariel and the star destroyer die in about 2 seconds.

[@revolver2750]

Eve wins hands down in star wars i never see big ship turn and when they do it so slowly.

[@pulzzz]

Can you tell the story of what happend when the star wars ship accidently jumped into 1DQ

[@gundam2jimmy]

Given the fact Minmatar ships use projectile, and Caldari ships use missiles, and GE ships shields block neither.....combined with the fact that Minmatar, Caldari and Gallente throw nukes and anti-matter around like it is nothing. And the fact range is a gargantuan difference between the two.....A Thrasher destroyer from EVE could probably take down a Star Destroyer. A Drake Battlecruiser could take down a dozen Star Destroyers. A Machariel could take on 30+.

[@heydj6857]

pretty cool stuff, just one thing missing, cyno up, hot drop o clock, 5 supers land, Star Destroyer goes pop! lol

[@TheGamingProjectUnit]

fun fact this was made as a joke now it might be real, i mean we did get doctor who event