Retired Too Early ? Modernized F-14 Tomcat Vs Su-35 Flanker-E | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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[@berryfox710]

Fokker dr1 vs ngad please

[@steveclarke1857]

GS - great vid. Would love to see the modernised F-14 in a 9X/archer fight with the SU-35.

[@ohmydog9171]

could you make some videos with the apache? or any helicopter would be super dope!

[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The F-4 Phantom VS A-4 Skyhawk Please fly The AV-8B VS F-35B Please fly The Rafale VS Typhoon

[@FreakinMexiRican86]

I don’t play DCS. I don’t have a PC. But I appreciate quality content. Especially when it’s consistent quality content! I look forward to these videos everyday!

[@andrewszot3094]

Same!

[@bret9741]

Dittos

[@Baptistbowhunter]

Same here but

[@gorillagrip27]

Same!!!!

[@RSAgility]

Not to mention all the training needed to fly well, dogfight, and have fun with it, if you do have it.

[@bitmanagent67]

Tomcat videos are ALWAYS welcome. If this became a F-14 exclusive channel, I would not be upset. 😆

[@dvaritek434]

F14, supersonic, firing a missile and hitting the crank has to be one of the most gorgeous visual sequences in aviation history.

[@terminusarms113]

Phenomenal video as always. That snippet of the Su-35 blasting past the ship at supersonic speeds as the ship shot was the most beautiful thing I've seen all month. Keep up the good work GS, love your content.

[@jasonforsyth5015]

The F14 sounds like it's on life support.

[@benn454]

It's OK. The RWR is just having a seizure from all the missiles in the air.

[@dreaminknight]

But it survived - unlike the SU35😂

[@jasonforsyth5015]

@@dreaminknight that's because he split the throttles. Duh.

[@yecto1332]

It's the matter of life and death for that f14 what else do u expect 😅

[@thystaff742]

If the F14 airframe was integrated with modern technology it would be a major force to recon with.

[@RushZ3r]

Tomcat videos are ALWAYS welcome man. Love your channel.

[@joubinzargarbashi6545]

Thanks for creating content with this quality almost every day!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank YOU for watching. Much love.

[@gilraine1225]

Tomcat has to fly much better without the weight of phoenix and its launchers. Ammram and launcher has to be easily 1200 pounds lighter per pylon.

[@Redssracer-de5de]

7:38 GS has more faith in a missile than he does in Jester...🤣🤣🤣

[@AlwaysGrowing0]

It is going to be awesome when DCS eventually gets the F14D. I look forward to seeing how the F14D performs against other aircraft in DCS.

[@protege6305]

Is the F-14D the best of the F-14 models?

[@Thorn19774]

​@protege6305 the F14D was a modern tomcat with UFC's, apg 71 which was the stike eagle radar with some changes the GE f110 engines, an IRST and LANTIRN

[@elnach3240]

@@protege6305 Yes the F-14D Super Tomcat had many upgrades over the F-14B.

[@traviswalker8933]

There aren't many F-14Ds around and I doubt any developer will be given access to the aircraft.

[@Thorn19774]

@@notsureyou yeah, unfortunately, the platform never got the software upgrades to accept even AMRAAM, which has a way better seeker and kinematics than the pheonix. The F14 was already almost out the door and the navy had to pay for LANTIRN somehow.

[@bret9741]

In this scenario. The destroyer of cruiser below would have already launched a anti aircraft missile at the enemy unless he maintains a low altitude below horizon.

[@dapanda2068]

The more i dive into the jet fighter community the more i agree that the tomcat should've never been retired

[@heyviper1238]

ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

[@christurner2853]

I agrre but wasntone of the biggest problems with the tomcat was extreme Maintenace needs?

[@heyviper1238]

@@christurner2853 like the richest military on the planet cares.

[@dvaritek434]

She was a maintenance queen for her time. Nothing compared to f35c.

[@nitonono4143]

@@heyviper1238 the congress does, they want reasons to cut it off so they can procure more costlier replacement to it.

[@abot4694]

This mission was wicked! Very nice seeing the Tomcat perform this well.

[@JonBrase]

I think the reason that you lost lock almost immediately after that one launch is that the enemy was low and possibly diving and you were incredibly nose high, so he ended up exceeding the downward gimbal limit of your radar.

[@squid0013]

Also the ammram should fit in the conformal slots for the sparrow saving weight of the pallets

[@mwdouglas3794]

After you buzzed that ship and pulled up in the distance, I was half expecting you to blow up. It was almost perfect recreation of the F-14A exploding after buzzing the ship while supersonic.

[@Iceose]

So, to the question. Was the Tomcat retired too early? Mmmmm Yes! Yes it was.

[@assertivecitizen]

Turn the F14 into a missile truck like the F15EX…

[@PavewayJDAM]

It's dead Jim, cheaper to design a new fighter. They got their asses flown off bombing Afghanistan, no life left in any of them sitting in the desert.

[@mikeyplayz8438]

​@@PavewayJDAMF-14E *"The Super Duper Tomcat"*

[@blshouse]

The F15EX exists because there was still a production line active, pumping out F-15s for foreign sales. Making new F-14s would require a new production line and all new tooling to be recreated. Literally cheaper to make more F-35s.

[@MaverickCulp]

I would be awesome to see that theoretical 10v10 air superiority fight over the island. Especially with a point system that values returning to base more than getting kills, something like 5 points per kill but 10 points for making it home.

[@dclark1980]

I've always wondered if the Tomcat could be configured to carry eight AMRAAMs plus two Sidewinders by using the centerline hard points in the tunnel as well as the four primary Phoenix positions. So it would have six AIM-120s in the center and two on the wing pylons with the two AIM-9s on the shoulder rails. Just a theory based on the AMRAAM being smaller than both the Sparrow and the Phoenix.

[@99bimmer]

I would imagine you could since they used to carry Sparrows on there when the Phoenix wasn't viable

[@donakahorse]

Tomcat still putting in the work.

[@sam.daniyali5350]

Iran

[@pbdye1607]

What would be nice is if someone were to model a new rack that would enable carrying two AMRAAMs per station on the underside of the fuselage, so you could carry up to ten plus the Fox-2s.

[@rohesilmnelohe]

Tbf, tomcat should've been able to carry 12+2

[@brownzerg]

SU-35 is no joke! Interesting scenario with the naval battle beneath, those ships were really going at it. F-14 looks good slinging 120s and it seemed smooth, but it could just have been the pilot. Great video as always.

[@manofchaitea6904]

It probably the plane...

[@alaingironacci5241]

Today i saw more than a fight, a competition between an F-14 and a SU-35 on who can get the best flyby to the side of a warship. Epic.

[@evilrooster9960]

Still a viable Modern BVR platform if upgraded radars were put on them and compatibility with new and upcoming missiles

[@rajaydon1893]

Something needs to be done about its rcs if it wants to survive today, 4.5 gen aircraft have a considerable advantage over this thing.

[@ariq4209]

@@rajaydon1893 F-15s and Flankers are gen 4.5s with RCS of a city block, so RCS isn't really a problem

[@evilrooster9960]

@@ariq4209 Even so if they replaced the tomcat panels and stuff with stealth composites and stealth coat on top of software, hardware, and hardpoint upgrades, they'd actually be pretty good as low vis long range missile trucks

[@ariq4209]

@@evilrooster9960 There's Eagle which is better than Tomcat in every way, except for carrier use. F-15EX has 13 more hardpoints and twice the payload capacity

[@evilrooster9960]

@@ariq4209 No duh, it's still a viable option.

[@musman9853]

That lock can only mean one thing: an invasion

[@alexchmil797]

the missile pow and slow mo splash were great shots, well done

[@JimmieReese01]

Gawd!! You played this so well GS. Awesome video!!

[@svenschwingel8632]

It's ironic. The Tomcat upgrade program only had limited funds so they decided to give her the TARPS instead of the AMRAAM. Snort did a pretty good explanation about that in the Tomcat Tales documentary.

[@manuairborne]

LANTIRN, not TARPS. 😉

[@svenschwingel8632]

@@manuairborne yeah, yeah. It's a targeting pod 😝🤣

[@ericx777]

At 4:15 ... pretty sure the whole crew on that ship below shit themselves when they saw those dropped tanks coming toward them. XD

[@kujoujima7303]

I always day dream about the mythical Super Tomcat 21 and how it would do or interpreted in DCS.

[@Dusther210]

I’ve been wanting to see this SO LONG!! Thank you!

[@mbarnlund]

The F-14 is such a beautiful sleek assassin ❤

[@FireflyMyLife]

That was a beautiful shot of the ejection!

[@Aquascape_Dreaming]

Top shelf stuff as usual. You remain the number 1 DCS ambassador!

[@nathaniellazo5912]

I may be an F-15 guy, alongside various other aircraft that are at the top of my list... the F-14 was gone too soon...

[@Anarchy_420]

1:10 I think you should have kept Two AIM-54C's for range against his R-37M's ;)👍 4:15 Yo GS have you ever seen a missile go for tanks being dropped?? Love the added cinematic aspect!👍👍

[@iangoodsell]

Damn I wish they had modernized the Tomcat. Great video as always GS

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you for watching brother much love.

[@localracer]

Nice work out there. Philosophy from Air Combat 1995. Wingman also never stops talking. Bingo!

[@willierhone6244]

Excellent video, love this type of mission videos.

[@Trig0r]

I wonder, if the Hornet was retired, and we got the Super Tomcat, how many would be asking if the Hornet was retired too early.... Oh yeah, none...

[@slartybarfastb3648]

There are nearly a dozen reasons why flight decks are entirely Super Hornets now. It replaced every other fighter/attack type in the fleet because it's variants may fill every role from refueler to interceptor. It's the most phenomenal naval aircraft ever built. That's a fact, whether it has a fan club or not.

[@zilla2086]

It would have been awesome to see the Tomcat upgraded to the ST-21 tomcat with stealth and more powerful engines.

[@stephenwilliams6103]

The pilot, combined with a Tomcat F14, is a leathal weapon of mass destruction

[@murphynuglene3714]

11:50 I was kinda expecting to hear, "the missile knows where it is"

[@Cybernaut76]

Retired too early? ABSOLUTELY! Despite being expensive and difficult to maintain, that plane is for those who do not play games and therefore need REAL hardware instead of a mere deterrent.

[@dreaminknight]

I always love Tomcat contents! You have mastered the cat on DCS like nonone else!! 👏👏👏

[@Edwilliamjr]

Great video with excellent quality, a F-14 video is always awesome!

[@umair103pk]

It's time heatblur comes up with F-14D Super Tomcat

[@kevinwhitehead6076]

I don’t play DCS, but I do love watching these videos!

[@MrNoobed]

So much could be done for the f14 if the tv camera was just upgraded so it didn't need the lantirn pod. Computers these days are so good now it could even be useful a2a like it wad originally supposed to be. Then of course modern radar and navigation... ahhhh

[@NotMathis]

Tomcat with stealth coating would go crazyy

[@RockMountainYJ]

Tomcat with Eagle radar and stealth coating

[@jporter504]

Yeah, that is all it takes to make an aircraft stealthy, a coating.

[@manofchaitea6904]

@@jporter504 well yeah, the F35 is a perfect example of that. Stealth coating, powerful radar.

[@majesticface3631]

@@manofchaitea6904no, it’s shape is conducive to reflect radar waves away from the source. The f14 has giant exposed 😊engine fans

[@mikeyplayz8438]

​@@majesticface3631That's why we need the F-14E

[@elnach3240]

The Super Tomcat should have been upgraded. It is a much better fleet defender and long range interceptor than a Super Hornet.

[@kamingleung3792]

so, who's paying the taxes?

[@uberschnilthegreat22]

Ballin to catch this one early enough to be within the sub-1000 initial viewers

[@user-pw9zm1ig1y]

In a BVR engagement, super-maneuverability doesn't mean a thing, but a powerful radar does!

[@marS3l]

most satisfying sound 3:44, honestly a Tomcat could still be a powerhouse, with the capability to upgrade now, stealth tomcat when? :D

[@red94mr28]

Love it when you fight the Tomcat especially in a mission instead of the usual 2 plane dogfight.

[@ajaxmaintenance5104]

Canada: “Sooo…heh, heh…how many of those F-14s do you have for sale cheap?”

[@mictest12]

Kept expecting a triage unit of doctors and nurses to break into that cockpit and try to save that patient.

[@mbmann3892]

2:10 When you forgot your hypersonic missile , and your opponent didn't Imagine the F-14 still being around to have it's tactick be used against it. Sad day to be an F-14

[@mikejohnson280]

The Cat strikes again!!

[@worldbreaker1023]

The drop tanks almost hit the water that time. So close

[@muratbozkurt5967]

Awesome uploads as always

[@dhooter]

Good thing we have Ludicrous Sonic missiles as a counter to the hypersonic missiles. 👍

[@ImamacFilms]

I'm a simple man. I see F14, I watch F14.

[@hoilst265]

"I have faith in that AMRAAM." Unspoken: "More so than I have in Jester."

[@jwagner1993]

..and the F14D still has classified AWG9 modes, and performance details....what a plane!

[@99bimmer]

It didn't have the AWG 9 in the D. Only thee A and B had it

[@Vernonu9]

Jetfire! More than meets the eye!

[@marcg6575]

Props to 2-3 Golf, one of the unsung heroes of this channel!

[@Krazyabe]

A fully developed modern f14 would still be ine hell of an interceptor. The navy definitely lost a few capabilities with its retirement.

[@dreaminknight]

Note that the F-14 wad never designed as interceptor only. It was an air dominator with A2G capabilities later.

[@Omnighoul31]

Any time you post a Tomcat video, I’ve got to watch

[@constitutionalist6817]

the song Mighty Wings comes to mind

[@alderwolf7687]

A lot of older airframes are still very viable and should be revisited instead of chucked away by engineers as old school garbage.

[@teddylegroux1298]

It's more an issue of logistics and personnel./ If you can only afford to supply and maintain XXX Airframes, and hire, train and house XXXXX personnels, and you need XXX airframes to perform your missions against modern threats, it makes more sense to throw the old ones and shift everyone to the new stuff, rather than keep training, supplying, housing and maintaining a fleet of obsolete platforms, even if they can still do 90% of the new jobs. It's like a sport team. You can only 53 players, you take the 53 best, wich means letting go the old players, even if they're still in the top 100.

[@lylewalker5681]

@@teddylegroux1298 Defense secrets, too. Updated avionics that other countries haven’t figured out with espionage, or been able to uncover technical aspects via spying. That’s why the F-14s with the updated avionics were binned as opposed to given to some ally. Because the chances of the technology getting into the hands of Russia/China or some other adversary were too high. Or, more correctly, there was ANY chance it would happen.

[@GG-yr5ix]

@@teddylegroux1298 yeah, and the F14 was a maintenance hog. F14 took a lot of hours maintenance for each flight hour. One of it's big advantages (especially the newer F14s) was the data link. Hawkeye, or Aegis Ship and F14 are extremely powerful combo. F14 could stay cold, launch and next thing Russian knows is that he's in the smoking section of hell.

[@birbdad1842]

People much more clever then you or me are making these decisions. The Tomcat is one exception.

[@alderwolf7687]

@@teddylegroux1298 I was thinking more along the lines of reusing the concept and airframe design. The problem with the F-14 was that it was way ahead of it's time resulting in many compromises that ended up being costly. Now that powerplant, avionics and material science has progressed considerably, a reliable cost effective F-14 that could very well hold its own against all 5th gen aircraft including the F-22 is possible. The only issue it would have would be stealth.

[@D-Ruys]

Some more tacview debrief would be awesome!

[@chrisharris8778]

Given the looming potential for conflict in the Indo-Pacific can you put together a strike package illustrating the capabilites of the F35 and the JASSM / JASSM ER ? Wondering about anti ship capabilities with smaller F35 vice a B2 etc.

[@nonyanks2510]

Like the Cat says "Anytime Baby" !

[@chrismaverick9828]

Imagine how many -120's you could cram onto that thing with a revised set of missile pallets. I bet you could cram six or eight in the tunnel.

[@callsigndopey1159]

Love the videos man 😁

[@bowloflight2201]

Video idea: [caught off guard] F22 gets ambushed scenarios

[@abbaerfani9007]

They should never put F14 away. Thanks for making this great video

[@creep4it]

Did someone has the name of the sound at the end ? Pretty nice video by the way, love to see BVR engagement with GS

[@mganzer]

Be cool if it had the new F-18 Super Hornet glove vanes, but that would be quite a remodel.

[@coachwilson5967]

With new costs of new planes, we should have kept 20-30 Super Tomcats. Imagine a sortie of four F-14's (multirole) and two F-22's close by on the prowl....

[@notJkun]

6:42 is that the audio from that one A-10 video?

[@vonpredator]

AV-8B vs F-35B

[@stefanonapoli7282]

Thanks for the video! How can you distinguish an old missle warning from a new one, expecially in a chaotic environment?

[@ricusmate]

To answer the question you would have to put 2 Super Hornets against one SU35.

[@JoRoWi83]

2-3 Golf 100 bucks he was a Marine as that was my Unit in KBay

[@jamesd4013]

Can you imagine a Tomcat with the engines, thrust vectoring and radar XC of a Raptor....!!!!

[@foracal5608]

The surprise su 57... That gets shot down by its own friendly forces

[@michaeldelosreyes9213]

GS, how about a BVR fight between the Flanker and Gripen over the Pacific? I know the Gripen carries less missiles...so it could be a handicap fight.

[@QuiteSBR556]

Awesome video Tomcat is my favorite fighter of all time!

[@DaBoM1337]

Now I'm no expert, but I think in the event of a hot war with Russia, seeing a flanker crash into the ocean while a tomcat does a flyby would be quite the morale boost for your average navy sailor

[@themenbehindyourcamera5550]

This Tones in the F14 reminds me on a old Telephone ring tone^^

[@Churt97]

Love the videos! Keep em coming! After watching your videos nearly everyday for the past year I’m looking at starting dcs myself.. anyone have recommendations on a decent enough set up for a complete beginner?😬 thanks!

[@cyrilpanshine3945]

Thrustmaster 16000M HOTAS is quite good for start. You can also have pedals with it.

[@petermills3814]

Next ideas up... modernized F14 super tomcat 21 & 22 vs 👇 F 22 Super Raptor = when more is known about its upgrades later on in the future years F35 block 4... could the super tomcat 21 or 22 have a chance against it from afar? Su 57 = could Maverick in a super tomcat 21 or 22 with all we know in modern feature upgrades perform better than what we originally saw... all three? & the mission before that? Super tomcat 21 & 22 vs F15EX + F18 Super Hornet, + J20 and others? Would the modern super tomcat still be relevant for today's world in support roles at best?

[@boonamai8926]

Very cinematic as always

[@tomas7158]

F14 is such a beast. The other guy did a good job dodging those amrams. And Gs never lost saw.

[@mafiosomemer3730]

AMRAAMs on Tomcats were criticized by Navy pilots for being a *Diet Phoenix.* It never happened since the Phoenix is much better in BVR role in that time.

[@mfish9374]

Good to hear you got faith in the AIM-120 cause no one has faith in Jester