Retro painting: the first Terminator from Warhammer 40,000 with Bob Naismith

[@MidwinterMinis]

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[@roelandpellis3679]

Already on Audible, because of you :) But if you have book recommendations I would love to hear them as well! Audible is awesome.

[@MidwinterMinis]

@@roelandpellis3679 I know it's a bit obvious, but Jurassic Park was awesome! The differences from the film are really interesting.

[@Jormyyy]

@@roelandpellis3679 Jurassic Park read by Scott Brick was my first audible experience. I highly recommend it, as well as it's sequel, The Lost World. Orrrrr of you want Warhammer books, well that all depends on your favorite faction! My introduction to the Black Library were the first 5 hooks of the Horus Heresy, which I would definitely reccomend. The Horus trilogy; Horus Rising, False Gods, Galaxy in Flames, followed by Flight of the Eisenstein and then Fulgrim. All great reads/ listens! My personal favorite BL book so far though is Lords of Silence, a book from the Death Guard's perspective. Wonderfully Nurgle filled read, and the narrator is also phenomenal. I have plenty of other stuff in my library too that I love to reccomend!

[@Jormyyy]

@@MidwinterMinis Are you gonna also listen to it's sequel, The Lost World? It is just as good!

[@paganshredhead599]

Is this video demonetized or why are there no ads?

[@GoobertownHobbies]

Great to put a voice with a name- thanks for this, Guy!

[@Josh24861]

Goob

[@NachoBearYeah]

Damn Goob you're always in the comment section of every wargamer's videos what a nice guy

[@nickkohlmann]

Hey if it isn't one of the nicest people in the hobby :D

[@ShutUpWesley]

But is he a free guy?

[@Kirioth]

Been saving this for a quiet moment and it was 100% worth the wait. Lovely vid dude, brilliant work.

[@oliverp3545]

Good models are always appreciated regardless of age.

[@patrickdillon500]

Guy, you are the perfect mix of legit wargamer fan, an excellent voice, great painting skills, and high production value. Im glad i started watching your work. It’s made a difference.

[@notreallydavid]

I bet Guy's made a few people think: 'What's the point of starting a channel? I'll never produce anything as good as that.' So much applaudable stuff in MMworld, not least the concrete support for CALM and the speaking up for GW employees and their cheekily underpowered salaries. Go, G+P+2!

[@Ollidol]

The new Space marine models are great. And the style of modern Warhammer looks great. But the old models have some charm to them.

[@MidwinterMinis]

SO much charm!

[@Kiyyou-253]

i agree with you, but some of the new marines models have that "tacti-cool" esthetic that i don't like, i think the first models that capture the right style were the bladeguards

[@dickbison]

@@Kiyyou-253 Agreed. What made me fall in love with 40k in the first place is how clunky everything look. Well, not everything, the Eldar were suitably sleek, but Imperial tech not so much. Really conveyed the idea of a fallen empire having technology advanced enough to go toe to toe with xenos but ancient and roughly patched together by people who don't really understand how it works and are doing their best. Modern 40k is just simply too pretty. It isn't bad, but looks a lot like many other sci-fi franchises and original 40k did not.

[@Necromancer0007]

@@dickbison And from the material side.... I don't understand this "new" trend at GW with resin and plastic.... When I was a kid and played 40k.... The metal models were the normal/good ones and the plastic ones were the shitty ones (not necessarly the sculpting quality) and no resin.... Nowadays everything plastic (which is still better than resin as i think but nowhere to metal). GW can't explain that the metal materials and molding/melting techniques aren't advanced as much that they can't keep up with the details and everything of the resin and plastic models manufacturing techniques. I wish they bring back the nearly full palette/catalog of metal miniatures (sadly i know they won't but...)

[@shadowofhawk55]

In the marines, I'm half and half. The new helmets look, mostly, bad compared to the old vox grilled ones. And my first marines were Primaris. The models I have that I love the look of more are the old school ones. That said, stuff like the Aggressors, the Reivers, and the various captains and other heroes of the Primaris line are so dope. Just need to switch out their helmets.

[@Nanowith1]

I love the chat with the designer! Please do more with other sculpters!

[@SimonClark]

This was great!

[@sterlinga.5410]

This video gave me nostalgia for a time that I wasn't even alive for.

[@MidwinterMinis]

I mean, this only came out when I was 3, so... same, pretty much!

[@sterlinga.5410]

@@MidwinterMinis The really weird part is that I've only gotten into Warhammer in the last year or so, primarily from your videos! So I really have no clue where this nostalgia came from 🤔

[@kambulwatts3309]

Now hear me out, How cool would it be if this was the design GW went with for the inevitable Primaris Terminators. An old school look on a new plastic kit. I just think it would look amazing.

[@MidwinterMinis]

Absolutely! I think there's some design aspects on the Primaris range that are already borrowed from this model, so I think it would work well!

[@afireinsidebrad]

I was legit just thinking that myself

[@doctoradventure413]

Pretty sure gravis armor is supposed to be primaris terminator armor

[@ExGemini]

@@doctoradventure413 Correct, sadly

[@vanhohenheim9249]

Maybe it could be explained as some early unit of terminators lost in time in the warp that came back a few centuries later or something

[@timbrown4928]

Great vid! Thanks so much Guy & Bob! Legends!

[@mjr543]

Bob Naismith himself. Transmitting from literally the centre of the warp as well. Amazing.

[@paulleach3612]

That smoothing out of the edge highlights is what we called feathering. (I'm old, I picked up my brushes back in 1987...) Taken to the extreme ( it was a technique I personally loved) you could blend up to 9 or 10 very thin, and subtle, layers. On the old Elder range it worked beautifully.

[@aaronbrown4275]

I love the hell out of 1st and 2nd ed 40k minis. They're so fun to paint.

[@minibob9252]

This little guy looks so amazing. Good job!

[@ArnoNoxFordSteyn]

every time I watch these Vods and I catch the references I feel SOOOOOOOOOO Old

[@Fools_Travels]

honestly i badly want to have an paint this sculpt. it looks fantastic

[@Nallenbot]

Every time I see a black and white photo of a black washed pewter mini I get the biggest nostalgia. I have the actual minis , I paint them now, but there is something about those photos that gets me.

[@ReubenAotearoa_]

Krang-anator! It'd be cool to see a slightly upscaled version of this guy which is more in line with the size of the current Terminators. All three of them, even. The "Saturnine" (Sorry, Luetin) is obviously already a super popular request for this, but they all have their own charm. I want to be able to run a 10 man squad with all different armour styles!

[@jamesfrancis7025]

Great video and thanks for using it to raise awareness of CALM and suicide, particularly in men. The positive content of channels such as yours on KZbin also really helped me during the dark times I had during the second lockdown when isolation and issues in my life took me to that edge. Thanks again for the good work on all fronts

[@coldnova]

I really love that terminator design. Honestly feels like something out of fallout.

[@roadgoeseveron7128]

great idea for the charity and awesome look into the past

[@taylorcasale680]

That's really awesome. I'm very happy this is going toward a good cause.

[@Woolfy_420]

This brings back memories

[@westkoastdogg6680]

These old model paints are the best :)

[@deviantknight7009]

Ive sat down and spoken with Bob Olley having long collected squats during their hiatus. Old school staff were so amazing and loved the fans

[@johnbastion747]

Holy shit an OG gw sculptor that is still kicking and still sculpting??? Goals man, goals.

[@frostedbutts4340]

Jes Goodwin is still working hard, though I think he mostly does design and sketches now

[@myautobiographyafanfic1413]

I wasn't feeling like watching this. But I don't regret it. Good work.

[@miniaturefun-guy]

I love how even the most recent games workshop models pay homage to the early sculpts. The buckle on the primaris marines is almost identical to the buckle on that terminator.

[@chrisdixon6689]

Great work! Nice one to give CALM a shout out.

[@Chris-lr2qb]

What a wonderful way to support a great charity. Nice work, Guy!

[@BillMakingStuff]

Forever War is a great book. This video's alright too.

[@marcwittkowski5146]

What an amazing mini, great insight from Bob, great paintjob and beautiful cause to which you donate. Love it.

[@archercolin6339]

Starship Troopers is, probably, my favourite book. I always recommend anyone who reads it follows up with The Forever War, for a different take on a similar theme. You might also like Heinlein's Moon is a Harsh Mistress...

[@dingwootsdenofpaints4432]

Mate your old hammer vids are so good, love seeing the old models and how you paint them.

[@Darkreaper1982]

I've read The Forever War. It's a fantastic book!

[@KhalainBear]

Great job, I have all 3 of those old terminators :)

[@yeoboshong]

OMG thank you for the nostalgia and the interview. Bob Naismith's Overrunners might become my next army ...

[@zalf1641]

That terminator is super rare because it's the long lost Imperial Knight Pattern terminator armor. The houses that those armors belonged to were razed to the ground during the horus' humbug. Only a single suit of armor survived and is being kept in a vault deep inside Mars where the adeptus mechanicus have been trying to uncover its secrets for the past 11.000 years. It's that or it's probably Alpharius.

[@Mechanicoid]

I dig how that model looks like the early Dreadnaughts. Thanks for sharing that cool mini with us.

[@MidwinterMinis]

Totally! You could do that "don't talk to me or my son ever again" meme really well with those two.

[@Mechanicoid]

@@MidwinterMinis that would be hilarious!

[@RedCrusader-ph2vk]

I really like the look of these old terminators! I've been looking for videos painting the "Saturnine" terminator but I can't find any!

[@NeoNaiche]

So happy this was painted to be a Crimson Fist!

[@benniemi3213]

Id love to see the come back

[@GNARGNARHEAD]

wow that's so much cooler

[@carlstanford7607]

Such a fun idea for a video. I’m getting the nostalgia feels

[@ethanevenson3855]

I love how the front of this model and really all the early terminators look. The Saturnine terminator was also really cool. I really think that an evolution of that kind of design would look more menacing than what they have now. That being said, every terminator looks really really good. It's one of the few unit types that has no really horrible looking figures.

[@grokknar]

That Trapdoor reference had me giggling.

[@MidwinterMinis]

Oh globbitz

[@grokknar]

@@MidwinterMinis ♫ Don't you open that trapdoorrrrr ♫

[@kharnifex]

You're a fool if you dare!

[@Roggor]

...I've got a headache...

[@OrakelofDeath]

Hmm... I like the Sculpt. Maybe I try to get my Hands on one of these somewhere in the future.

[@euansmith3699]

8:49 Remember the Farm! Rynn's World will rise from the ashes! For, Pedro Cantor! That is a great model; though it has a terrible case of Terminator Neck; how did the Space Marine fit in there, without some spinal surgery? The creator's narration was great, too. His new minis are tip-top. 15:56 😂😂😂😂😂 This running gag really tickles me. 16:22 That method of getting the magnets to line up was cool; and I like how the double base gives this old Terminator some extra height. I love that you are raising money for CALM. 😍😍😍

[@ARC1701A]

Now, if we could just get a character story from my Lord Storyteller Baldermort about a Crimson Fist Terminator fighting during the Horus Heresy who gets blasted by a Chaos Sorcerer, but instead of dying gets warp-buggery time-displaced to 40K, and then ends up joining Chapter Master Pedro Kantor in rebuilding the Chapter, that would be tremendous. I would be so happy. PS: Bangin job mate.

[@causerDAguv]

Back in the mid 90's when I first started my friends dad gave me these weird figures that I had never seen before. Come to find out I had Marine, Marine Guard and Heavy Laser. One got stolen at a Warhammer club that I used to go to and the other two I unfortunately sold with all my other figures :(

[@LuderSatan1]

02:56 I really hope we will see more painting-videoes with those rogue trader models in the upper right corner. Though second edition is wiedely seen as more important historically for 40k´s popularity, I always have a soft spot for the older models.

[@mekosmowski]

Subscribed for CALM.

[@benstephenson8988]

looks awsome man!

[@MrDjpaulh1982]

Just went to look at the mini on eBay and put a cheeky bid in and it’s up to 255. Wow! Great chance to own some of Guys fine work.

[@ravensco]

Guy, you sir, are a legend.

[@disposable_income_andy]

Probably not intentional, but I do like that faint blue on the skull on the shoulder. I mean it could be an error, but because it's only on one side and in one of the deepest recessed parts it just looks like the skull itself was shaded was painted on in-universe to give it a three-dimensional look.

[@RealJohnKimble]

This is a great video IMO. You even interviewed the guy who sculpted the model!

[@mk-ultraviolence1760]

"A dead Marine has no value." You know just goes show how much the lore has change with apothecaries and the importance of the gene seed.

[@Dahakra]

Damn, this vid convinced me to buy an assault terminator and terminator squad box... You never know when the legendary models will just disappear into the annals of history

[@levelate]

great paint job for a great miniature. for the paint drying on the brush, have you tried using glaze mediums?

[@modestdaniel91]

great video my guy!

[@NoobMicesters]

He also made the most recent eldar model. Sure its the exact same model and nothing has come out since, but still

[@MidwinterMinis]

Good point, haha

[@NoobMicesters]

@@MidwinterMinis jokes aside, good job, amazing video as always, amazed you managed to get him on to talk about the model

[@PaulB-justme]

I bought quite a few of those original Space Marines and definitely had the original Terminator! Unfortunately I sold them to a friend years ago. 😦

[@PigsxArexAwesome]

thumbs up and a comment for the algorithm.

[@timjupp2334]

Another great video m8

[@RainMakeR_Workshop]

Someone needs to 3d model a high quality update for this

[@Maligust_]

Sooooo guy when are those 2nd edition space marine squads gonna be painted? No rush no rush

[@derpynarwhalsjoe8505]

Hows the titan coming along?

[@AnnieAturday]

The "saturnine" terminator is a myth that the warhammer community came up with no basis in anything. That terminator armor was actually created by Vulkan, and has nothing to do with the saturnine.

[@jonridley]

I had all of them (maybe about 10nin total) and paid next to nothing for them in a GW sale where they were trying to get rid of all their old stock. I literally paid about £1 each for them . My mum chucked all my old 40k stuff away when then moved house. I also had tonnes of man o war ships (also bought for next to nothing in the same sale) talisman with every expansion, a lot for he GW board games such as rogue trooper , judge dredd etc tyranid attack too. She chucked the lot . :-(

[@Fenaughty]

Steve!

[@zackcook5123]

Honestly i really like the retro stuff and hope for necromunda

[@MidwinterMinis]

I wouldn't say no!

[@Jormyyy]

I love how *SQUART* this termie looks lol

[@paulsheldon8838]

Thank you for supporting male-focused charity!

[@Warboss_Cooper]

Four minutes after its been posted. Fastest I've ever been to a video

[@Tula-cs1ef]

If any 3d modelers see this I am willing to pay for a model of this.

[@jorkbork291]

Does this make Bob the inspiration for Loken? The original Naysmith....

[@mobilegamersunite]

What dose the plate under his feet say? Mine is blank and has no GW stamp.

[@user-demon420]

how are you always able to find these people for interviews

[@anurglingwithinternetacess4622]

Hey what is your favourite miniature that games workshop have ever made

[@archmagosbelisariuscawl1192]

BRO IF IT GETS A REDESIGN IT COULD BE A TERMINATOR PRIMARIS MARINE GW TAKE NOTES

[@jamesclarke5331]

Oh Globbits!!!!

[@oliverp3545]

Another video for the other 2 in the future?

[@Wawwior]

Theres a parallel universe where they never changed the terminator model.

[@Versidious]

Primaris Terminators incoming?

[@dickbison]

His face looks just like The Maxx from Image Comics :)

[@kharnifex]

Hell yeah

[@cailumgrantham-tibbitt8543]

I do find it kinda saddening that Bob puts himself down as a sculptor, humble as he is I think his work holds up incredibly and his influence shouldn't ever be downplayed

[@andromidius]

I think its actually a pretty cool model with only one real weakness - the helmet. Its in completely the wrong place - if you look at the arm and leg placements the 'helmet' is actually sticking out of the chest, so the Marine's head should be poking out of the top. Unless its meant to be such a big suit of armour that its actually a small mech and the Marine is actually inside the torso. Otherwise I like it - the power fist looks great in particular.

[@cailumgrantham-tibbitt8543]

@@andromidius just mind this was back when scale and proportions weren't rules, more vague guidelines it's harder to critique a piece such as this when it came from a time where space fantasy miniatures were a bold uncharted frontier

[@mobilegamersunite]

I love this model! Grampa Terminator FTW 😂 can't wait to paint mine! He's soaking in Awesome O now!

[@disposable_income_andy]

Yeah but for guys like him who're obviously at the top (I mean, he literally helped make Warhammer), I think it's a good habit to connect yourself more with fans and the little guys, it puts you down but it also can lifts others up knowing they don't *have* to be perfect or a professional. It's good to spread positivity and acceptance in a community largely about painting and modelling, everything will be completely unique anyway and it's about making it yours.

[@Ragdollcatman001]

I agree.. I have some of these Terminator models and the detail still stands up to todays stuff. Sure the castings aren't good (the metal itself is a bit meh) but the models themselves are still decent.

[@Grymbaldknight]

40k is in that perfect middle ground where the franchise is old enough for aspects of it to be considered "classic", but young enough that most of its original creators are still alive and kicking. Star Wars is in a similar position. That model looks incredible, and i'm really glad you were able to get a legendary interview with Bob Naismith!

[@MidwinterMinis]

Thanks so much! It was an absolute pleasure chatting with him, what a hero.

[@notagoodsitrep]

He paints the gauntlets in Mephiston Red and doesn't make the pun "I'll just paint Me-fist-in red." Please turn in your dad loicense at the nearest Ministry of Paternal Humor office.

[@sickelej3620]

ugh cant even read comments without being assaulted by great dad jokes lol

[@DFloyd84]

It's okay, he's got a Provisional Dad Loicense because he's a new father. He's allowed to miss a few dad jokes while he gets the hang of it.

[@countzero1136]

Nothing wrong with dad jokes - it's a nice reminder of a time when people were allowed to have a sense of humour!

[@thebryceroy6155]

@@countzero1136 Dad jokes are never intended to be humorous, they are a noogie/arm punch/wet willie/indian burn in verbal form. If it's actually funny, it's not a Dad Joke, it's just a Painless Pun.

[@countzero1136]

@@thebryceroy6155 I can see that you're really too young to appreciate proper humour :(

[@AlessandroZarrillo]

Bob's microphone quality makes it sound like he's replying to you from the past

[@euansmith3699]

Time moves strangely in the Warp.

[@Stereo_type1982]

Bonus points if it was intentional.

[@andrewt9128]

I thought the exact same thing!

[@anotherzingbo]

I originally got into Warhammer in the latter half of 1989. Even by that point the three original Terminator sculpts were weird and obscure things that only rarely made appearances in 'Eavy Metal. It's great seeing one in such detail and seeing it painted up so well. It's made even better by hearing Bob Naismith providing background and context on it and his time at Games Workshop too.

[@MidwinterMinis]

One of my friends had one when I was little, I always wanted one, but it wasn't until recently I realised what it was! Sometimes the internet is quite useful, haha

[@Senbei01]

I actually picked up all three of the variants... From GW Mail-order, just before the archive service got closed down. It may have been as late as 1999. Also picked up an Ambull at around the same time. I can't remember what inspired me to do so. They were probably a pretty good investment.

[@cams.2083]

Just found a "ground trooper" from GW 1985 in my local stores bit box... Older than me! (Afraid to paint it yet)

[@lordhamster9452]

@@cams.2083 I am considering ordering some old 2nd edition models and i am also not sure weather i can paint such relics.

[@anotherzingbo]

@@lordhamster9452 if you're worried about "doing them justice" or something like that, don't be! They were always sold to be painted and gamed with, plus if at some point down the line you decide you don't like what you've done with them it's not hard to strip the paint off and paint them again. My only specific advice about painting metal models compared to plastic ones is don't skip the priming and varnishing stages, as paint is more prone to chipping and rubbing off metal models than plastic ones.

[@TheShweeble]

Great video! The only thing that's missing is a comment from Luetin about how the terminator with the big pauldrons isn't actually Saturnine

[@MidwinterMinis]

I'm waiting, haha

[@GreenBlueWalkthrough]

And how it could/kinda was made into a salamanders pattern terme suit.

[@starnostras]

@@MidwinterMinis This whole video was a work with that goal - admit it.

[@SimonTrimby]

I believe the style of having mottos like 'kil kil kil' on figures can be traced back to the artwork of Kevin O'Neal in 2000AD. He drew a lot of Nemesis the Warlock, which is clearly part of the inspiration for the Imperium of Man in 40K. Many of Nemesis' enemies (called the Terminators!) had pithy comments such as 'Slay!" and 'Repent!' on their armour, and this habit seems to have carried over into the artwork of Rogue Trader. And yes, I'm old enough to remember all this first hand.

[@chrisgoodier6825]

“Somewhere in the dark and nasty regions, where nobody goes, stands an ancient castle. Deep within this dank and uninviting place lives Burk. Over worked servant of the thing upstairs. But that's nothing compared to the horrors that lurk beneath the trapdoor. For there's always something down there, in the dark... waiting to come out.”

[@steviebarrett]

I fully approve the decision to call the previously unnamed Terminator, Steve.

[@JonesySurvived]

"Steve Pattern" sounds like a legit name haha.

[@Coproquim]

I like how it's not named. But is clearly the direct ancestor of the indomitus pattern

[@tfan2222]

@@Coproquim Ehhh not quite, it’s helmet? Yes definitely, but the one next to the “saturnine” terminator looks far more like the indomitus.

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

One of the thing that helps with Eldar vehicles holding up is that they're not reliant on fiddly detail, and the lore basis of their tech means you're not going to see complex worky gubbinz everywhere. Yeah, the crew could use an update, but for the actual vehicle... I dunno, maybe the sprue couldbe better arranged, but that seems to be about it.

[@oliverp3545]

Only thing I'd say is that they need to be updated to be compatible with the current heavy weapons that vehicles use now since the modern ones are a pain to make fit with them.

[@f0rth3l0v30fchr15t]

@@oliverp3545 Fair point.

[@TheAceomac]

man i feel like a criminal, just started looking at these vid's, a friend and i found a box full of our old warhammer lead models from the 90's .... we melted them down for some fishing weights

[@H0kram]

HERETICS!!

[@ablacktemplar1971]

*BROTHA HOW COULD YOU!?*

[@TheAceomac]

Honestly if it makes ya feel any better, one was painted and didn't seem to melt, so being an idiot I poked it with my finger...it was like a heroic last stand lol, melted over my finger tip

[@ablacktemplar1971]

@@TheAceomac I'm crying tears of sadness Brotha

[@tomgeytenbeek2207]

Perfect thing to come back to after a shift- this is gonna be a fantastic dinner :) comments for the algorithm!

[@Mondaynightgaming23]

Knocked it out of the park guy, what a gorgeous paint job on a gorgeously nostalgic model! You've inspired me to start recording my terrain building endeavours to start my own channel. Keep it up mate

[@hyderalhassani4907]

Guy, it's videos like this one that make me glad I'm a patron. This could have easily been just a simple painting tutorial, but like with so many of your videos that little bit of extra context and personality make it just so much better. Keep 'em coming!