My Favorite $40 Controller (BIGBIG Won Elitist S)

[@Sinnertwin01]

That Removable back is to put a piece of pasta, for when you're needing a carb fix while gaming. But only one piece. Anymore and it would be gluttony. Such a good company thinking of both gaming and health needs. A 5/7 for sure.

[@BIGBIGWON]

Great idea bro😂

[@swololikesolo1625]

@@BIGBIGWON lmao, coolest company ever.

[@bluupbrr286]

I’ll have what you were on while writing this comment.

[@Adam5boro]

I was about to pick up an 8bitdo pro 2 UNTIL I watched this review. The function to wake the switch is a HUGE plus for me. I just ordered one, thanks for the extremely detailed review 👍🏼

[@coxxycabee]

This is the best review of this product that I've seen. Loved the comparison between the way the grips.The d-pad details were what I was looking for. Thank you!

[@zombee38]

The best controller that I have seen so far...plenty of features...I'm now considering to get one!

[@hantke1989]

Nice review!! I would also love to see a review for the 8bitdo Pro 2

[@RetroGameCorps]

Coming soon! :D

[@UrDeedMeatMarra]

For years I used a huge, funky looking controller for the original Xbox called the FPS Master Controller until there was no longer any decent workarounds to use it on modern systems. It was programmable and had face buttons on the top and some replicated on the bottom of the controller.

[@GangityBirdity]

Try the 8bitdo Pro 2. It has versatility and comfortability

[@nickoflynn6151]

I hadn't heard of this controller until now (I'd mostly been using my SN30, with the replacement silicone thumb sticks). I'll have to give it a shot. Thanks, mate!

[@GangityBirdity]

There's also the 8bitdo pro 2 as well

[@nickoflynn6151]

@@GangityBirdity Ordering that, too :) Looks an amazing piece of kit. I was lucky enough to get one of the SN30 controllers with the SNES-colour buttons before Nintendo stamped on that, so I'm quite fond of it.

[@captaintim9039]

Got one with 10% off coupon, really love it. Amazing grip feeling, amazing back paddle function. I think it's better than the switch pro controller in some way!

[@coolperson4283]

Hi, I had some questions if you could answer: 1. does the dpad have a pivot at the centre 2. do the sticks have any deadzone issues, it could be central deadzone, axial deadzone or even outer deadzone. 2. do the sticks have any recentering issues or does it jitter 3. how is the input lag particularly in bluetooth vs 2.4GHz connection. also, can you cannect the 2.4 GHz dongle to an android device with an otg cable, in order to get potentially a little less lag 4. battery life/capacity im sorry if I missed something that you mentioned in the video. I understand that this is not a full review, but I appreciate all the details I can take while making a purchase. thanks alot and appreciate the video.

[@GangityBirdity]

8bitdo Pro 2 is also around

[@RetroGameCorps]

Hi, I'll try to answer these to the best of my ability! 1. Yes, the center pivots just slightly when I push on it. 2. I tested it on my Android phone using Gamepad Tester and there are no deadzone issues, and no recentering/jittering issues. 3. There is a discernable lag with Bluetooth, it's very slight. 2.4GHz seems better to me. I tested Android with an OTG cable and it worked perfectly. Battery capacity is 800mAh, and the spec sheet says it lasts for 30 hours. Hope that helps!

[@coolperson4283]

@@RetroGameCorps Thanks so much. Yes, it helped quite a lot. This seems to be a great alternative to the pro2.

[@Juiceycan]

This controller seems to be using the same design as the PDP licensed Switch Pro controller

[@RetroGameCorps]

Good point!

[@nyjay]

If they make a plain looking one (without that awful name and design) with a usb-c, this would’ve been perfect.

[@adariepennant3389]

I believe Microsoft + Nintendo + Google + SNK Playmore + Sony + sega / should just joint forces team up and make a ultimate console together it would be awesome 🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝

[@GangityBirdity]

Why not try the 8bitdo pro 2. It's only 5 more dollars and it's just as versatile and even more

[@GangityBirdity]

And it goes usb-c as well

[@GangityBirdity]

I'm surprised it wasn't featured in this video

[@RetroGameCorps]

It may or may not be in a video coming very soon 😎

[@gamersview8]

I remember the steam controller has a removable back as well. And it's like a compartment to store the 2.4g usb dongle. Maybe in this case, it's a storage for the usb dongle as well. Can you try to see if it fits?

[@RetroGameCorps]

It doesn’t, that would have been nice though.

[@gamersview8]

@@RetroGameCorps Darn, that's too bad. Perhaps the usb is too thick XD

[@Kevin-du5vf]

Cool controller, I got a Big Big Won too. just not a controller ;)

[@wes2268]

Just the joystick

[@ruffierniert]

I hope they will make a version with analog trigger in the future. I really need a 8bitdo allrounder style gamepad with asymmetric sticks.

[@Iskanzar]

I wonder why they aren't any premium controllers for Switch from the likes of Razer, Scuf or even Hori ?

[@youzernejm]

So it's easy to pear it with apple. Sorry, but I couldn't not say it. I like the controller, but the name, oh boy. If I saw it in the shop, I'd expect a piece of junk.

[@RetroGameCorps]

Haha, nice one. I agree, the name doesn't give this controller justice.

[@Ivy_Mike]

Having trouble finding a site that still sells this controller. Any suggestions?

[@speedracerxtreme]

Looks like the company dropped that in favor of some gaudy clear controller that comes wired or wireless......

[@tdata545]

THANK YOU CONTROLLER MAKERS who put the "start" and "select" in the RIGHT place, and move the "HOME" and "SCREENSHOT" keys out of the way. That's usually the first thing I look for in a third party controller.

[@mamory3791]

No news about the RGB10 MAX?

[@LuigiToby]

This is the perfect competition to the sn30 pro 2, wonder if this have motion controls

[@RetroGameCorps]

It does have gyroscopic controls, but I didn’t test them myself. My understanding is that they only work for Switch.

[@MrDusuke]

I have a Chinese controller called mobapad pro... I think it's very similar to this, with some differences for better of for worse. It has usb type C, a huge battery, turbo function for every button if you need, 4 programmable back buttons and macro support ... The triggers feels different, they have a lot of travel but activates as soon as you start pressing it (it's weird but feels ok, sometimes I accidentally activate them by just resting my fingers there, it's something to get used to). Very good build quality, adjustable vibration and some other stuff. Works fine with android, PC and Nintendo switch, and it wakes up your switch (something that indeed we don't see very often). You should take a look. Just type Mobapad pro on Aliexpress.

[@SimonNeilScott]

I would love to hear your opinions on the 8bitdo Pro 2, in a vid. I'm very tempted to get one as my replacement Switch controller, for when the battery dies.

[@jacorachan]

Yep. I have also preorderes one pro 2. Same price range, but other reviews got me into buying the 8bito. Maybe just good marketing, but I really hope that's a good buy.

[@RetroGameCorps]

I will be testing that one out this week :)

[@Nindira]

i being having troubles sinking my pro controller to make it work with xbox game pass, does anyone know if this would be a good alternative?, awesome video btw

[@gamergod9182]

are you talking about using the Switch Pro controller on PC? if so, try using DS4Windows by ryochan. it will emulate it as a standard Xbox 360 pad.

[@Nindira]

@@gamergod9182 yes to place on PC, ohi will try this. Thank you

[@gumbyx84]

Looks like it's a really good controller. I suggest looking into the SN30 Pro 2.

[@RetroGameCorps]

I have a review of that one coming later this week!

[@shaunbowen]

I managed to order one of these at a great discount (£27) based on this review. First impressions were great as it felt amazing to hold - just the right size and shape. Sadly I have to return it as Bluetooth and dongle connection to my HP laptop just don't work. It connects okay but no inputs seem to do anything. Works fine with Android. Also the L1 and R1 triggers don't seem to be analogue, just a click, so not for me I'm afraid.

[@MayhemTheKid]

Best description of the Switch Procon I've heard ever: "It's kinda like holding a sandwich, that happens to have grips in it" 🤣

[@jaysonkemper1525]

Does the usb dongle not fit in the back compartment?

[@helentran204]

That removable back panel reminds me of this PDP controller I had that had back buttons set up similarly. Personally, I prefer my 8BitDo Pro 2 because of the PlayStation style and how the D-pad feels, and I found that I grew to dislike how the +, -, home, and capture buttons are placed on other pro controllers. I just wish the Pro 2 could wake the Switch up (whereas this can), but that's just a nitpick for me, since my Pro 2 isn't just another Switch controller for my usage. If I didn't already have the Pro 2, I'd probably have my eye on this!

[@jesseboy7951]

Loved the video, Russ, thank you. I wonder how his dude would compare to 8bitdo Pro 2, I heard a lot of great things about it.

[@RetroGameCorps]

We'll find out later this week :)

[@Edwinschuur]

Will you do a comparison between the two in that review?

[@jesseboy7951]

@@Edwinschuur I think that goes without saying ;D

[@yesnyrandy5268]

Can you use it with the Xbox one? I'm looking for something that widths query Android,pc, such, and PC,,. Please let me know your review is awesome

[@starwarsmaster]

I might actually pick this up! I need a cheap yet good controller for my consoles that are not the “mainline ones”

[@servetturgut09]

I have a hk1 rbox x4s device I need a gamepad to play ppsspp emulator games I tried many gamepads but it didn't work, do you have any suggestions to play?

[@RealziesCuts]

So this controller doesn’t exist anymore none of the links work 🤦‍♂️🦍

[@mvid86]

Have you had any luck with games on Emuelec? The controller operates the menue screen on Emuelec but when I select a game, the controller doesn't work. Any thoughts?

[@ginyuTV]

cant store the dongle in that removable back plate?

[@RetroGameCorps]

Unfortunately no, it doesn't fit.

[@bysaturnplay]

Sad triggers are digital (

[@BlakaD]

talking about controllers, have u seen that "ps5" controller bootleg that isactually a handheld console? It appeared in my recomended on aliexpress some days ago and i had to got one, i still wating for it at the moment but i think its an interesting weird device (i know u normally do just some really solid and good devices but i think its a silly little thing that couuld be great for its value y'know)

[@RetroGameCorps]

I haven’t seen it. Please let me know what you think of it when you get it!

[@kill_repeat8491]

It's $19. Retrododo has a video about it.

[@BlakaD]

@@kill_repeat8491 oh thanks, he was the First person to make a video about it, im not gonna watch yet, i want to have a little bit of surprise to test games and the emulation by myself

[@kill_repeat8491]

@@BlakaD for that price, you can't lose

[@joserobertocastellon]

Does this controller work with iOS? Not sure if I missed it in the video

[@tactical7601]

Is this Linux (Ubuntu) compatible? Thanks!

[@eb9340]

it seems like it doesnt have a mobile/phone mount, that could make it a no go for some people.

[@MaYouDoTube]

I bought one of these controllers thanks to your video. I hope I will like it 😁

[@alenrojas4063]

I mostly got it to play BotW to run and use the camera at the same time, but after i assign a bottom to the back , and then leave the back bottom pressed for more than 5 seconds, it seems to reset on its own. Am I the only one having this issue? Or is this and actual flaw in the design? Can someone corroborate? I would really appreciate it. Thank you.

[@VegitoBlackityBlack]

U did a macro by accident

[@lakshayasood2197]

why didn;t you made a video 1 year back while I was look for a all system controller. ~Nice work

[@RetroGameCorps]

Well, a year ago I didn't have a YT channel. So that might be it! :)

[@murmursixtyfour]

I just got to know this great controller. Spread the word!

[@estebanalfaroorozco9289]

Do you know if the controller could work with windows 8.1?

[@100Bucks]

Huge money saver. I'm buying the stick version and this. The only 2 devices you need.

[@TEDdotcom]

Controller no longer available on Amazon

[@herbertsoares2205]

You mislead me into buy an RG351P handheld device therefore I no longer trust you reviews.... That device screen is so small...wow what a piece of junk... Luck me I bought from amazon which is easy to return

[@Edwinschuur]

I know a lot of people like that device including myself. But not everyone can likenthe same things Doesn't mean that it's junk. Maybe try some reading glasses.

[@RetroGameCorps]

Hi Herbert, if the 3.5" screen is too small, maybe consider the ODROID Go Super or the upcoming PowKiddy RGB10 Max, they have 5" screens (the same size as the PS Vita and close to the Switch Lite's size).

[@John-pw8is]

Any idea if it can.be used with the Shield TV pro?

[@DeepDiveDevin]

Bought this a few months ago and the B button is sticking now very regularly. Any advice?

[@RetroGameCorps]

If you're brave enough to take it apart, I bet there is a little piece of plastic stuck to the button, you can probably shave that off and improve the experience.

[@DeepDiveDevin]

@@RetroGameCorps I tried swabbing some rubbing alcohol down between the button and the rest of the controller, and while it doesn't feel perfect, it was a big improvement. I'm a little terrified of taking apart my electronics, so I'm thankful that cleaning it helped.

[@fancyesquire8888]

Amazing controller, feels very high quality for the money. It actually feels better once the face buttons wear in. The programmable back buttons are so useful. In open world games or shooters, I map the run button from the analog stick to the back. It's the little things.

[@beejsonw]

Damn i was looking for something for the ps4

[@anderson9244MLG]

What about the gyro function? Is it good?

[@MusxafaDabale-yd7um]

❤❤❤❤❤Good morning dear friend how are you doing

[@trickyrat483]

8bitdo SN30Pro+. Love mine. Does everything. Easily available locally and with warrantee. EDIT: And for only slightly more, the Pro2 in the next couple of weeks.

[@jensdeclerck592]

Would you recommend this for a wiiu?

[@harrylee1223]

I've always been confused as to how people are surprised as to how cheap these third party controllers are. If you're getting an off brand controller, doesn't $10-20 cheaper sound about right? You can get a brand name controller for just a bit more, and most of these controllers seem like cheaper versions of the real deal (except the 8bitDo controllers those are cool).

[@RetroGameCorps]

I guess that's what surprised me about it -- it doesn't feel cheaper than the first-party controllers. In some respects it felt better.

[@PizzaNinja71]

I bought one based on your review thx :)

[@RetroGameCorps]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@iqratheblueman8144]

Ello m8! Was wondering if you're gonna give a review on the Powkiddy Q60 and no not the Q90. It's looks like an RG300 or an RG99 so please tell me if it's either of those

[@dani_214]

does it work wirelessly on pc and will it be recognize as xbox controller?

[@RetroGameCorps]

It connects to the PC wirelessly no problem, I'm not sure if it's recognized as an Xbox controller though.

[@juniorhxcx9]

Could you test the same on Switch emulators (Yuzu and Ryujinx), especially the motion sensors part, please?

[@XXsupervisor]

Can't beat 8bitdo Pro 2 for $50!

[@TontonGahu]

That might be a stupid question but is it possible to press both paddles at the same time? (I'm pretty sure it's a yes but we never know)

[@RetroGameCorps]

Yes you can!

[@TontonGahu]

@@RetroGameCorps Nice, I just ordered one, got the pro 2 and it is a great controller but it suffers from everything I hate about the dualshock controller personally. I hope this one will be a better bet for me =)

[@redloropickachu5180]

i got it yesterday and i love it

[@Metaphor9696]

I'm a fan of that Steel Series controller you have there

[@RetroGameCorps]

It is nice, but I wish it had dedicated START/SELECT buttons.

[@hugosteps77]

Thanks for the review. Just grabbed myself one of these off Amazon for £26

[@JadedBeast]

How was it?

[@hugosteps77]

@@JadedBeast it’s really good to be honest. Nice & comfy to hold. Sticks are in the right place. Wireless dongle with pc works great (treats it as an Xbox controller). And bluetooth works well with my Switch, tablet & phone. For the price it was well worth it.

[@JadedBeast]

@@hugosteps77 Great good to hear, enjoy it

[@Hallinwar]

It is like Steam Controller (back panel) and a Pro controller had a baby, which connects to everything

[@ChuckLucky]

Was planning to buy an 8bitdo pro 2 but after seeing this one, i mean the price and functionality just changed my mind

[@WickedGamerCollector]

This does looks really interesting 😅

[@RetroGameCorps]

It's a nice little controller - great for testing :)

[@WickedGamerCollector]

@@RetroGameCorps I do get some of these company's asking me to review controllers. Don't know i did see many crappy ones this one looks awesome with the back buttons 👌

[@alanw6042]

Even try any of the Flydigi ?

[@MrBrandonbarlow]

Everyone says 8bitdo pro 2 is the best for everything.

[@RetroGameCorps]

I have a review of that one coming this week :)

[@TeamArepasTV]

Sirve para ps5 ?

[@joshuacanaan9779]

Pro 2 review?

[@RetroGameCorps]

Coming later this week :)

[@joshuacanaan9779]

Thanks

[@alphardestur5784]

Does it have gyro control?

[@NeoTechni]

Rule 1 of controllers: No sharp corners/edges! No PS3/PS4 support? Lame.

[@100Bucks]

You can get a magic NS adapter and pair it with the BigBigWon controller. Wired or wireless. It's up to you.

[@jornalx]

Please, subtitles in english!

[@thenameisuppercase]

This looks pretty nice, but like most other controllers, it seems to have the minor quirk that when holding the controller, your left thumb is on the left joystick at an angle, and not straight up. This isn't really an issue for most games, because most either have 8-way navigation or 360-degree navigation, but it does irk me when I play smash in my free time. Since my brain assumes that 'up' is pushing my thumb forward, I usually end up pushing north-northeast, and given that there's a difference between up-left and up-right when using a special attack, it can often be a punishing mistake. The other thing I'm wondering is - is there a sound that plays when you push the function button long enough to start the mapping process? It looks like it lights up when it's ready, but since your finger is over the button, you can't really see.

[@RetroGameCorps]

Good point on the angle. It doesn't make a sound, but it pulses orange. You're right that it's tricky, because my thumb covers it!

[@Noieter]

Someone has done a calibration test on the sticks? To see if they are as precise as the pro controller.

[@MeleeKirby]

How good is the D-Pad exactly? I ask because as much as I enjoy the Pro Controller, the D-Pad on it has the tendency to register up/down presses when pressing left/right and vice-versa. That kind of design flaw is fatal as someone who enjoys retro or 2D style games where digital directional input is more appropriate.

[@RetroGameCorps]

I've been using it for retro gaming for a few weeks now and I have no complaints. D-pads are very subjective, but I like the feel of this one: tactile and precise.

[@CodeLikeHell]

@@RetroGameCorps The D-Pad on the Pro Controller is objectively bad, there are already tons of fixing videos on the web, had to send mine back 2d platformers were unplayable with these faulty inputs. So Elitist S doesn't have these input problems?

[@calebb7012]

Was this a sponsored video?

[@AnotherGuyPT]

Have a few questions, if you help me out: can I swap ABXY buttons to Xbox style? Can save macros for later use? Any mapping software available? Gyroscope works on PC? Thanks!

[@VegitoBlackityBlack]

Just on switch

[@vorkosigan-p6f]

hi RGC, I have been inhaling your videos over the last 2 days. I was wondering if you would make a video or post or your website about "the classic" or "must try" or simply your favourite games for the various retro consoles? I was a kid right around when gameboy color came out, so the consoles/platforms and games you talk are overwhelming to me - I just have no history with them. But as younger guy, I'd really appreciate some guidance on where to start with retro games. Thanks for videos!

[@duckhead014]

Try out Shovel Knight if you like 2D platformer older games!

[@igorR061]

Like many other comments I´d like to know how it compares to the new 8bitDo SN30 Pro 2. I really like the SN Pro+ and was thinking about buying the new version, but this Elitist seems a very interesting optiom.

[@RetroGameCorps]

I'll post the SN30 video later this week!

[@alexgonzalez9053]

Poor Russ, after the emulation handheld Purgatory he's entering the 3rd party controller Hell... Run away, before you get into Arcade Sticks!

[@RetroGameCorps]

Haha, I don’t have the room for arcade sticks...otherwise it’d be game on 😻

[@browse79]

Which controller would you recommend for tight platformers on the Switch?

[@marekkedzierski8237]

Wouldn't SN30 Pro 2 fit all your boxes with great quality and pretty good price ($50)? I use older model (SN30 Pro plus) and it is really good.

[@RetroGameCorps]

More to come on that one :)

[@Mlock76]

Thanks for the awesome review! Am considering buying myself a retro gaming console in the near future and pairing this controller with it. Just to confirm, it uses a USB micro B type connection?

[@100Bucks]

It's a great purchase, I used it for a week now. Best controller I ever used. By yourself a magic NS adapter as well. Pairing this controller to a PC. You will not have rumble. Using a magic NS adapter you gain rumble support, but you lose gyro support. To gain rumble. Set the magic ns adapter to Nintendo Switch pro controller. Then on the BigBigWon controller hold pair and B then let go. You're PC will read it Nintendo Switch pro controller. Getting magic NS adapter gives your more chances to connect just in case. But remember using magic ns, it doesn't read the gyro feature.

[@nach0x]

Does the 2.4G adapter fit inside the battery cover??

[@RetroGameCorps]

Unfortunately it doesn't :(

[@nach0x]

@@RetroGameCorps awww man.... *desires of modding intensifies*

[@mvanalst2003]

How well and how easily would this controller work with the Powkiddy A13?

[@teeawgo]

gamesir t4 pro controller has all these features for $35

[@RetroGameCorps]

I considered that one, but I didn’t like the look of those analog sticks, and the relatively small (600mAh) battery. Do you have one, how do you like it?

[@teeawgo]

@@RetroGameCorps I've had mine since January and it's been my primary PC controller since. Before it was the 8bitdo sn30 pro +, but after about a year the analog sticks on that started drifting like crazy and none of the fixes I tried worked. T4 has been a perfect replacement on PCso far. And yeah its analog sticks doesn't seem to be as grippy as this bigbig controller looks to be, but my fingers don't slip off them while playing or anything. It also comes with a phone clip and worked fine on Android through Bluetooth. Amazon store page said this phone clip had different adjustable angles though which is not true. You're locked in on its one angle. I tried playing with the controller a single time on Switch just because and there was noticeable input lag though... It was on Warframe with gyro controls and moving the camera just wasn't as smooth as it was with the 8bitdo. I can't speak much on the battery since I usually charge my controllers after each game session regardless

[@RetroGameCorps]

@@teeawgo thanks for the insight!

[@chrisgodoy2548]

Would love to see a shootout. Best 2.4ghz, best Bluetooth, and best wired .

[@javiesgmar]

Thank you! Does it have rumble and gyro support?

[@yadspi]

The most important for Switch and never tested it.

[@yadspi]

The amazon listing says it has gyro and rumble on Switch.

[@RetroGameCorps]

It does have rumble, and it says it has gyro, but I didn't test that portion. To me it wasn't a feature I expected to use.

[@RyanParreno]

Try the Gulikit King Kong Pro controller

[@RetroGameCorps]

I'll check it out, thanks Ryan.

[@euphoria_7477]

is this a sponsorship?

[@KyleRuggles]

Does this have analog shoulder buttons?? I can't find where you talked about them. I like to play racing games.

[@RetroGameCorps]

Good point, so I just did some digging. I tested it with Windows 10 test settings, and it does look like it is a digital input. So not great for racing games. Analog triggers isn't something I usually think about, so I appreciate you asking.

[@FabioSpelta]

What about Linux/SteamOs?

[@RetroGameCorps]

I'm not sure. If the OS accepts x-input (either BT or 2.4GHz) or d-input signals, then it should work fine.

[@clumaster]

maybe you can store the 2.4 ghz dongle in the compartment in the back maybe that why the panel comes off..

[@RetroGameCorps]

I wish, unfortunately it doesn't fit ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@cossakrose]

Hmmmm... Now I'm a loss as to what to order. I'd been considering getting a full size controller for PC gaming but now I'm stuck between this one, the 8BitDo SN30 Pro+, and the 8BitDo Pro 2. All of them look gorgeous but unfortunately the last two weren't mentioned here. Reaching for your expertise, what would you recommend? The price ranges are pretty similar so that's not a problem.

[@RetroGameCorps]

I have the Pro 2, and I'll do a review of it later this week.

[@cossakrose]

@@RetroGameCorps Yes! Fantastic! From what I've read the Pro 2 and this one are very similar. So with your discount code this one might be the better option. Of course, I'll wait for your review to get further confirmation on which is better for me. THANK YOU!