Is Dragon Ball Z: Sagas REALLY That Bad?!

[@8thFromTheSun_]

The power trip of playing as Broly was cool for about 5 minutes. Also, playing as one armed Future Gohan was neat.

[@Vulpas]

Ah, a fellow Broly and one-armed Future Gohan appreciator.

[@Jackraiden500]

Yeah and that 5 minutes of thinking how cool it was abruptly ended the moment you realized he played pretty much exactly the same way as every other character right?

[@mattmcgrouary1195]

@@Jackraiden500 I’m pretty sure a part of me died

[@lambdpro3982]

​@@Jackraiden500 going in as Broly and thinking "Hell yeah, I'm going to beat the shit out of Raditz". just for Broly to play exactly the same as any other character. same combos, they look way worse on him, and it becomes bland after you beat your first boss as Raditz.

[@Chronoflation]

Lol, and the power trip ending when you realize his SSJ doesn't actually give him the SSJ boost in speed and damage that other characters who can transform get since his is permanent. Still, I always give some respect to any game that lets you play as 1 armed Future Gohan. Definitely best Gohan in DB.

[@SkyAeria]

Playing co-op was where this game shined. It was a little bland and repetitive but there's no other DBZ game quite like this. Had a lot of fun playing this one with friends

[@warrendavis8207]

I was just going to say that it's almost meant to be played co-op.

[@TheBigBlueBugofJustice]

Well, most of it is... some of the boss battles (the final one against Cell in particular) are EXTREMELY poorly optimized for co-op 😬

[@SolidSnake240]

Still a horrible game

[@JagoShogun]

No other game like it for the better. You'll get more mileage off of xenoverse or other co-op titles.

[@Dekomata]

i remember playing this game co-op from beginning to end with my brother. by frieza saga, i felt my mind slipping because of the poor game desgin. i mean, more power to those that like this game i guess. but i'm sorry, your favorite game isn't very good.

[@CT-4819]

My cousin sunny and I would play this all the time and beat it over and over again so we could play as Broly

[@Est-dh2go]

Wow never knew you could play as Broly my brother and I loved this game too

[@Kdawg4859]

Broly was Op in this game. 1 hit king fr.

[@Buddergolem2525]

Me too

[@blazilfrazil2]

Didn't even know broly was in here

[@tonytonychoppas]

@@Est-dh2go him and bardock were both secret characters I think

[@dblsomeday]

I loved this game as a kid. To me it was the perfect DBZ game. I bought it again a few years back, mainly to just have in my collection, but it was not as great as I remembered it lol.

[@HeroGetsu]

Man for real

[@TheBigBlueBugofJustice]

I played it when it came out in 2005 when I was 12. I remember thinking then that it was really bad, but I bought it again last year to try again as a 29 year old adult. Long story short... my opinion on the game has NOT changed lmao

[@vijaz5559]

the small kid you has tolerance for bad game lmao. me too

[@whitebwoi]

it was so much fun, I'd be glitching through the map all the time

[@lloydirving6209]

As a kid most people will play just about anything and have a good time because you don't know any better, but this was the only game I remember playing from my childhood that made me think "huh, video games can be bad I guess."

[@thrice2565]

haha

[@SeviathTheHumanDrago]

Same dude. Same. I kept it for a while purely because my mom wouldn't take me back to gamestop the week after since I had beat it lol. When I did go I got DB Budokai Tenkaichi 2.

[@lloydirving6209]

@@SeviathTheHumanDrago much better game

[@SeviathTheHumanDrago]

@@lloydirving6209 Most definitely. And I kept that game all the way up until my PS2 broke. Guess which one as a kid I thought was better? Yeah exactly lmfao.

[@BigBoss-lp9yi]

Eh, I knew better, still like it now for what it is, just in a different way. We just naturally get more cynical as life goes on, I suppose 😌

[@bushidobrown3952]

I’m 22 now. I remember when I was in elementary school my mom showed me this game and said if I behaved in school she would give it to me. I still have it upstairs lol I used to be addicted to this game

[@Attackazach]

At 22? Goodlord, i was 29 when it came out for me x.x

[@KryptoKnightmare]

Well, now I feel old.

[@soufgxtti]

It’s actually unfortunate not to play this one as a kid. Bc when you play it with somebody as a kid it’s actually really fun. As an adult it sucks

[@BrianAwesome]

I always disliked how we were in the Buu - Gt era timeframe in the anime, But new games released would only go up to the Cell Era 😒🙄

[@Mika-Fresh]

Finally, some respect gets put on DBZ: Sagas. At the time, it was a gem. Every other game was a fighter, rather than this open-area brawler.

[@jackson633]

No it wasn't, Sagas was a stinker.

[@jackson633]

Still is.

[@anarchochristian1910]

It definitely wasn't a bad idea they just didn't expand upon it enough. Honestly you can see sagas direction in alot of the dbz games that came after.

[@hkyomah]

Sagas is goated

[@michellepatino8733]

@@jackson633Ah you just suck at it, bet you probably never got past Frieza.

[@josechamu240]

I reallyyyyyy like how u cover the physical and other aspects of the game such as the box art, back of the box writing, the disc art and manual. Love that! Never seem that in a review!

[@kanight1]

Was anyone else shook for a sec at how good Matty can emulate perfect cells voice?? 😂😭🤣👌🏾

[@CanadianDude]

lol I enjoyed that

[@Pokemonmasters4ever]

😊

[@KaiKrimson56]

He kind of also sounded like Yami Yugi from Yugioh Abridged.

[@YouDeer9521]

I actually didn't know this game was hated lol. I remember me and my brother having a blast with it when I was a kid.

[@AbeelSiddiqui]

It's funny how sagas was the first dragonball game I ever played and what gave me my first exposure of dragonball and what got me into dragonball. My father got this for me when I got my PS2 and i didn't knew what to expect. But hey, since them am a dragonball fan. The whole cutscenes from anime helped me understand dragonball story. And i was shocked that there was buu saga after the cell saga, because I thought the anime ended after cell saga.

[@Travis7060312]

Sagas was exactly what I was asking for at the time. It could have been better, and I even remember thinking that then, but it was still super fun to finally get to go all around as these characters

[@viscountrainbows2857]

At the time, I made due but the drag of the hitsponge enemies sucked a lot of enjoyment out of it. the co-op, whenever I could convince my friend to play, was at least good for a little goof. We made up our combos in a way that truly felt DBZ, clunky as it was.

[@rasamasala]

Lmao, they straight up gave Vegeta a reverse donkey kick in his combo at 1:26

[@arunabhmahanta]

Yooo this was my “FIRST” PS2 game and my “FIRST” video game I ever played that I fell in love with. I loved this game to death because I didn’t have any prior experience with “better” DBZ games.

[@JMZxChannel]

Me too! wow I can't believe there is another person who bought his first console (ps2) and this game at the same time like me

[@mattmcgrouary1195]

Duuuude Matty, I sincerely appreciate you and your videos! Your energy had me in stitches this episode. This WAS the dragon all game of the year for me. I got it just because it was multiplayer, and me and my big bro got through it quickly. What a chore to get through too. It’s hilarious hearing you pick apart what I thought was very jarring as a kid. UR NOT DAT GUY, sagas

[@Irritated_Ninja]

I was honestly surprised to learn this game was hated when I was younger. I definitely knew it wasn't perfect, but I remember having a blast playing through all of it in like 2013

[@robyhughes91]

I remember playing this on the original Xbox and having such a blast. I haven't played it recently to see if it still holds up, but I am highly tempted to go play it again

[@michellepatino8733]

Did you ever end up replaying it?

[@icetr3y488]

Funnily enough. This game taught me a lot of general game mechanics, it being one of the very first games ive ever played. I mostly remember struggling trying to follow instructions but then when i got past all of that, it turned into probably my most played game. I look back on it fondly

[@ramrampersaud8415]

LOL this game 😂 Honestly I really liked this game growing up. Had tons of fun with it even owning budokai 1 and 2. My favorite for GameCube was budokai 2 but also enjoyed sagas

[@roshinn4068]

2 was a classic shame they won't ever port it over to current gen.

[@adamboose784]

it's funny as a kid I absolutely loved this game played it a lot. now as an Adult I won't even touch it just goes to show that when you can't afford video games as a kid you deal with what you have. kids today will never know what it was like to not get a new video game every day and to appreciate what you did have.

[@revolverocelot49]

It was fun as a kid but really short, glad I rented it lol

[@SP-ie6nq]

Good old Blockbuster/Hollywood Video days

[@dragonblood510]

I’m going to honest this game it’s worse than ultimate tenkaichi at least that game had some good stuff about it. Like the music,the graphics,make your own hero and the destructive environment.

[@KUPSMusic]

Glad you are checking this out, played it as a kid and had my fun with it. It sure was a flawed game though. Great video!

[@KaoruMzk]

Well, at least Sagas isn’t the worst Dragon Ball console game anymore. That honor now goes to The Breakers.

[@TyandOnGoing]

Dragon ball fusions is in a HEAVY NEED FOR A sequel on the switch.

[@miked3018]

I loved this game as a kid! This game and the Legacy of Goku series fueled my DBZ love. Great video Matty!

[@brandonroth3972]

I played this game, rented it from a hollywood video and beat the entire thing within the 3 day rental period. I remember giving it back and forgetting about it.....until now. Thanks for the memories mate

[@shortyg1018]

That Vegeta boss fight is for the birds.

[@tyreseperrin223]

This was actually one of my favorite games growing up

[@vrtillinfinity]

Man I remember playing this as a kid and I really loved it, I would even play with my brother and we had so much fun. I didn’t know everybody else hated this game 😂

[@kcjc]

This was a game I always saw on the shelves growing up but never bought for whatever reason, as I got older I realized I unintentionally dodged a bullet

[@coolkid1597]

Love these videos on more obscure, less than perfect games! They're super interesting to learn about. I played this one as a kid and remember really wanting to like it, but couldn't do it.

[@DavidLucian]

The really hidden gem that a lot of DBZ fans missed from PS2 Era of DBZ games is "Super Dragon Ball Z" which is also a real Unique and DBZ game, especially for the different gameplay aspects perspective and much more.. ✌☯️

[@toffiees6193]

I tried this game not too long ago because I remembered it being really cool! I was little when I played it and I was soooo hype to replay it only to find out it was actually pretty bad… literally everything your saying it’s facts. It’s the classic run thru through the first sagas and this game had major potential but it just didn’t execute how we wanted it too.

[@davidsterling7570]

The biggest contribution this game made was the way Broly calls out his name when you select him.

[@Rellxotwod]

Me and cousin still laugh about this

[@diogobarao9992]

I thought about that game not 2 minutes ago. Impeccable timing

[@onilao]

its a pity how bad it was because i still would love a game like this with local and online co-op...but better! :D

[@PhilTalksSports]

Just popping in to say I LOVED this game. Way ahead of it’s time

[@Doxsein]

That was a pretty good Cell impression! 2:46

[@supersaiyanjedi3930]

I agree with pretty much everything, yet you forgot to mention how insanely tough it is to go Super Saiyan. Don't even get me started on SSJ2 Gohan vs. Cell.

[@luispalapa2927]

This game definitely has its flaws but when I was a kid I had a blast playing it with friends and it was the game that introduced me to DBZ and anime as a whole so it has a special place in my heart.

[@robertlee9602]

I remember buying this game very excited. My friend and I played through the coop and while it had some slight fun it was just poorly made beat em up.

[@redmetroid743]

That cell impression like "don't come near here Gohan" had me dead lol

[@Blakkberry7]

I used to play this with my brother and friends all the time and never had a bad memory of it. I honestly feel like I could play it now and still feel the same love I did then

[@Rutawind]

11:21 Nappa mixing in that handstand front kick threw me off guard. When did he learn capoeira? lol

[@damainmane4765]

It was this game and Shaolin Monks that blew me away ...I always respected those 2 games for being so different from what we've grown accustomed too around that time ...

[@SolidSnake240]

This game blew you away? Even back then there were much better and unique games released lol

[@johnstamos5948]

shaolin monks could get a remaster

[@damainmane4765]

@@SolidSnake240 Yeah it did ,at the time I never thought Dragonball and Mortal Kombat games would go as far as to make a "beat em up" style games when there best known for 2D Fighting ...The execution could've been better I know but games like this birth groundbreaking ideas 💡 just wished they would've went full throttle on those series ...I feel Sagas and Shaolin Monks would've had better memories if they had sequels ,but that's a kids dream now lol

[@damainmane4765]

@@johnstamos5948 🤞

[@andrewcamacho3364]

I remember being so hyped for this game when it came out. Might've even bought it on release. I remember picking that up, along with Xenosaga Episode 1....One of those games was returned about 48 hours later. I'll let you guess as to which one.

[@stevendefeo8424]

This game looks awesome. I just bought it and can’t wait to play it. You are way way to critical of games.

[@warrenlondon2426]

This is on the one game out of the entire DBZ franchise that I would happily skip.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

Using cheats to unlock all moves made it super fun, also was a fun little adventure game with epic show edits and narration

[@richyrichthemovieplug3990]

That cell impersonation threw me off it was actually really good 😂

[@dancloud6744]

I remember beating this game in less than 24 hrs. There's not much to do post game but replay the story as Broly and kill everything in your path

[@sprite1015]

So in context for when this game came out, every other DBZ game was a fighter, and to me, that never delivered on the power fantasy that was DBZ. I wanted to explore, I wanted co-op, and this game was the closest ever to delivering on that promise until Xenoverse (at least, from my memory, and as a staunch Nintendo fanboy). So my sister and I played the ever loving crap out of this game and I have an extremely positive memory associated with it. That being said, I booted it up today (before watching this video) and holy crap you're right. Its so clumsy.

[@sprite1015]

The next closes thing to what I really wanted out of this game (from what I remember) were the shitty half life mods.

[@sprite1015]

I have the same problem with Naruto games. Every last one that I have seen has been some kind of fighting game, and I would love to play a Naruto adventure.

[@shushmebro3845]

I was a huge dbz nerd, this came out when I was 12 and I played the heck out of it. I loved everything about it.

[@Aenima308]

I was 11 years old and just purchased this. As we were walking out of Target, I opened the game and was reading the manual when I dropped the game and it slid far away from me and a car backing out of its spot ran over it.

[@revengenerd1]

The amount of hits to beat Nappa was, OVER 9000!!!!

[@idrispower]

Man, i was and am a huge Dragonball Fan and i remember that i allways wanted to play this as a child but couldn't afford it, glad that i didn't missed anything and instead replayed Budokai 1&2 thousand Times 👌

[@mediumsyllables]

I rented this game as a kid, but I remember absolutely loving it. Nostalgia glasses are a hell of a thing.

[@christhegreatdotgov]

This brings me back when I was kid in Mexico and at my house we had a store attached to it, and it had an arcade machine and this title was one of em I always played

[@willzayas3239]

Loved this game, wasn’t bad. Just short.. Probably one of my favorite DBZ games ever!

[@onlygoodgamesofficial]

As a kid this game was pretty realistic for its time and back then I loved it👍 haven't played it in forever but yeah it hasn't aged the best. I remember it being pretty repetitive and hard towards the end. I think playing as Bardock and Broly in a somewhat open world at the time was some of the best things I think the game offered

[@Adobo809]

Realistic?

[@onlygoodgamesofficial]

@@Adobo809 at the time it was

[@Adobo809]

@@onlygoodgamesofficial realistic how though? I'm honestly not trying to be an asshole, just trying to understand your interpretation of realistic for a DBZ game

[@onlygoodgamesofficial]

@@Adobo809 back then the graphics were decent, the gameplay was decent & it was the only game at the time to my knowledge where you could somewhat use bardock and broly In a story mode type of way at the time. So at the time it was a realistic dbz game outside of budokai 3s open world & which ever tenkaichi had the open world. Obviously now it looks dated and some could argue it was dated at the time but in my opinion I think most people found it to be a solid game at the time now not so much but back then we didn't have much

[@TheReZisTLust]

One armed Gohan, damage to walls, damage increase with ss, float up. In terms of db it was k.​ @@Adobo809

[@1ktharris]

This was one of my fav DBZ games when I was younger used to spend hours playing it I liked it for how different it was from DBZ games before it

[@Cetra29]

The Cell picture on the backcover is literally from another picture that is also on for example Legendary Super Warriors and they just changed his mouth.

[@juanluizgaming305]

Best part of this game was playing as one armed future gohan. To this day there has been no game where you can play as him that I know of.

[@lucidmind9676]

This game was actually fun af when I was a kid, if you had a friend/sibling to play co-op with but solo it does suck

[@bobjeezorham7658]

As a kid this game was so fun, but man this game is...NOT good lmao I will say I think its pretty cool that it got to have an entirely original character that has never appeared since. That's the Yardrat boss guy, Soba. Put my guy Soba in Budokai Tenkaichi 4 lmao

[@rmartinez1993]

Coming from someone who owned an xbox at the time and was literally 12 or so, i was happy with this game since i didnt know how to get the budokai games i saw at blockbuster :(

[@ModNTech]

I really enjoyed this as a kid, it was a nice change from the budokai series which were all really good. I completed this with 3 different friends on CO OP. It was not 'amazing' but I have allot of fun memories. Future Gohan having 1 arm, the way the rocks rise wheen you power up, playing as Goku in Yardrat, unlocking moves and characters were really fun for me. I did not often play this game on single player so that probably gave me a more positive experience

[@305Independent]

I actually really enjoyed this game. My only 2 problems were the laggy attacks and that it was wayyyy too short.

[@americangizmopied]

I absolutely loved this game as a kid. It was so exciting to me to play a DBZ game with couch coop that wasn't just a fighting game. It was cool to fly around as goku and kill saibamen. Went back and tried it again as an adult a few years ago, holy shit it's bad. 9 year old me loved it though, I have very fond memories playing this with cousins and friends. I'll just keep it in my memories. At least Buu's Fury is still as good as I remember.

[@rick.james.]

I remember when I got this game… it was the only dragon ball game on the OG xbox console and I had played budokai 3 on a friends console so I was itching for some dragon ball content like that, you can imagine my dissapointment when I popped that bad boy in and seeing the gameplay on the first level, even the music was soo passive and I remember it cost like 40 dollars so not even cheap, I played it over and over just trying to like it and get my parents money worth 😅

[@delldolo9048]

This was the first game to let you play the history of trunks with one arm gohan 🔥 it was good for me, still got this in my collection

[@F14koFreegun]

Yes I was just telling my buddy about this haha

[@AkiraStrix94]

Hot take: This game is not nearly as awful as reviews make it sound. I get everyone has their preferences, but I say those reviews are unfairly biased. I didn't grow up with this game as a kid, I didn't even play it until I was an adult. It's no masterpiece, but I wouldn't be so quick to throw it in the same corner as other Dragon Ball games that ARE legit awful: GT Final Bout, Ultimate Battle 22, Legacy of Goku 1, Taiketsu, Dragon Power (yes, this one counts too), etc. It's not as bad as reviews online will make the game sound, again, unfairly biased. Though, there are things about the game I personally don't like, but still not enough to make me hate it. I do think it could have been better, but if I had to pick between this or the nearly endless supply of fighting games, Sagas would get my vote.

[@sikevillain]

Ha i remember me and my brother playing this mess of a game so much and saying man this is pretty terrible but being huge fans of the game we kept playing it. we ended up unlocking hidden characters like broly, tien etc turned off friendly fire and start fighting each other in the most clunkiest combat I've seen lol 😂

[@cubansupreme]

Hey some Dragon Ball Fusions recognition during this video, thank you. Here's hoping that you might possibly do a future video on it, especially with the 3DS (and Wii U) going to be on its way out eShop-wise in early 2023. I believe the game is still on the 3ds eShop (that's where I got it when it was released at the time). And don't forget about Super Dragon Ball Heroes World Mission as well (As of me posting this comment, it's currently on sale for $8.99 on the Nintendo Switch eShop, that's a steal at that kind of price. Please don't sleep on this game everyone.).

[@notbart3145]

I played this with my best friend back when we were in elementary school, and that game rocked!

[@spunkflunk]

It was not a bad game, why did everyone hate it so much! Me and my brother rented it and were so addicted to the co op gameplay that my parents got worreid that we were too much into video games and took away the ps2 for 3 months so we would play outside during summer.

[@AliFOJ5]

Played this game on my PS2 solo and man the last fight with SS2 Gohan vs Cell was so hard and annoying. You literally couldn’t get into SS2 because the ki recharge was so slow. I felt like the best gamer in the world ending this game solo back in the day.

[@gabemapes4396]

Craziest thing to me is that I remember liking the game. Just because you could move around in a 3D space, unlike the bodukai games. Oh boy how I miss the bodukai games now.

[@stevendefeo8424]

Playing against Vegeta in the first part of the game is just unfair. He is so OP it’s ridiculous

[@loudone7944]

This is in my top 3 all time favorite DBZ games have so many memories with it

[@Chronoflation]

I always loved this game growing up. It may be mediocre, but I always enjoyed going for all the collectibles and stuff. The only thing that actually annoyed me is that Pendulum mode nerfs every character's damage down to base for the levels, so you can't actually tear through levels as Broly, despite him being the only permanent super saiyan. Speaking of which, you actually can do decent damage to bosses when transformed, it's just reaching that super saiyan transformation that's so difficult and they're basically half dead at that point anyhow, and that's when that option is available. Fighting Cell with Gohan where you can only hurt him as SSJ2 also sucked since the transformation only had half of the SSJ bar and they didn't actually extend it to have a full second bar and SSJ drains it while you're trying to fill it all the way, and you can't fill above SSJ1 without doing that transformation. I still enjoyed going through the levels though and all ths different types of saibamen, even if the boss fights were pretty trash. Knocking them into the rocks in the background was fun too. I actually wish it went harder on the power level scaling so that you took less damage against enemies who you were canonically stronger than and strong bosses who won their fights, like Nappa vs not Goku, should've only had the player fight til they were at half health or maybe even only done 1/4 before switching to play as Goku who could wipe the guy out. There's a lot of ways the game could be better, but maybe that was a part of the fun. It's also possible to glitch underground in a few places like one of the Future Trunks levels when you're climbing over a partially collapsed highway (or maybe I should say partially standing considering how little is not total rubble)

[@RamirezR]

I loved this game as a kid, I played when I was a kid with my little brother, it is so nostalgic for me

[@CrossOutBryce]

Bro, you're about to make me dig up and dust off my 3DS just to play Fusions. I got into it just as I was starting college and only put in 10 hours, but I could tell it was an AMAZING game

[@marcelomunhozdarocha5358]

I remember being hyped for this game back in 2005. Man what a bummer

[@MegaPandaGaming]

I remember the only reason I wanted this game was because you could actually walk around lol, I was really tired of always floating and flying around in dbz games

[@alexbenjaminlubbers]

Back in the day, this game was kinda fun, but at like 14, I never made it past Freeza

[@tybigman3]

matt quick question how do you get your GameCube and older game footage to look so clean and HD. av to hdmi converter component cables. please and thank you

[@TruuJones]

I remember wanting to play this game so badly when it first came out but I didn't have a current gen console to play it.

[@FunkyPunk1995]

That cell voice was top notch

[@Lukja08]

I don't remember it looking THIS BAD

[@ryantheanimator1156]

This was my first PS2 game that was included with the brand new PS2 console my dad bought for me and my brother.

[@cruelwraith2games926]

I like it though I always felt that Dragon Ball sagas was like the precursor to Dragon Ball Z Xenoverse

[@mattneal4309]

How lol

[@cobymacdonald5704]

First dbz game I ever had, it was what taught me what dbz was and made me fall in love with the series

[@kevinegannn]

i had fun as a kid tbh but once i beat it i didnt wanna replay it, replayed it with a homie years later he was like this wack lmao i had some nostalgia fun

[@Dominus_Augustus]

I always liked the soundtrack and the scouter-like menu interface. Always had a cool vibe to me despite the abysmal gameplay and graphics

[@kim9god607]

Lol " they make you fight one enemy at a time" *litterally shows Gohan hitting multiple characters at once*

[@XYGamingRemedyG]

I vaguely remember playing this quite a bit. Isn't it like Kakarot but worse?

[@danganwrecker3862]

Bro how the hell did I not know you were mattyplays I was like this guy looks familiar until I realized today