Review | 2016 Kia Optima | A Car Worth Owning

[@Amagansett1680]

I never though a Kia was worthy of an Oscar-winning documentary.

[@1MotoXRacer1]

+Amagansett1680 Hyundai and Kia have come a long way.

[@advaith1]

+Fringe Colours I think it was more of a complement for a review well done (high quality). Subtlety does not translate well on the internet :)

[@mozillagenesis]

+Amagansett1680 Time to come out of 2006 and join us. Kia is not the same company nowadays and haven't been for awhile.

[@ViolettaFoxx]

+mozillagenesis Even then the 2001-2005 Hyundai Sonatas are really really solid. The V6 models have aluminum blocks and heads with FORGED steel rods, pistons, and crankshaft. The I4s are direct Mitubishi clones of the famous 4G63 engine, just without a turbo, usually. I've seen turbo Elantras with it.

[@fcg243]

I have a 2012 Kia Optima SX since new, 4 years and a couple of months of owning it and not a single problem. Still rides like day 1 with no rattles or wear, just very few rock chips on the lower bumper but not a single scratch. Our Toyotas have much more wear and tear than the Optima and have not been as reliable. Kia is making cars now like Toyota used to in its prime years. It is amazing how much better they have gotten in the last decade

[@iamme7664]

This video is the reason why I bought my 2018 Kia Optima 3 years ago ❤ I still love my car ❤❤❤

[@johntyson]

The Kia Optima always catches my eye when I see one on the road. I really like the way they look compared to the others in their class. Great review as usual. Hope everything is okay with Mr. Turbowski.

[@kriswingert1662]

I have a 2012 Optima SX-t and it is really fun to drive. This is coming from someone who drove Subaru's for 20 years ( including my SVX).

[@thisisntsergio1352]

The 2021 model will be even better.

[@OhPhuckYou]

Fusion, Optima and Mazda 6 take the cake in the midsized category. Only issue with the Optima is the 2.4 and 2.0 Theta engines. They've gotten much more reliable, but still have carbon build problems, and finicky rod bearings. That being said, my best friend has a 15 Optima and it has been flawless for 140K of abuse, neglect, dirt roads. Cosmetically it's not the best, but the mechanics of the car are holding up fine for the amount of neglect the car is subjected to. All the suspension parts are tight as the day it was built even though it's been on rutted dirt roads more than paved. The Mazda 6 is more reliable and the Fusion and Kia are equally reliable (Not the 1.5/1.6EB Fusion)

[@racso5628]

Man I hope you start getting more subs soon. Your quality of work deserves two million subs. I keep finding myself watching many of them over and over again because they're like documentaries.

[@metallica96ism]

A couple years late, but this video convinced me to pull the trigger on 2016 EX with all the bells and whistles, and I couldn't be any happier with the choice

[@rmi222]

How many miles on the odo? Still running smooth? I’m considering a 2016 EX

[@Albert-xl3nx]

How many miles?

[@metallica96ism]

@@Albert-xl3nxI just traded it in for a Honda passport. It was the worst car I ever owned lol. Constant issues, oil burning, blown gaskets and just awful

[@JustinReid]

You guys do amazing car reviews. They are TRUE, HONEST & DETAILED reviews that help the consumer get a better feel of what they may be buying. Best part is that you guys actually test the true power these cars could provide, while providing the positive and negatives to regular maintenance. Keep up the great work +savagegeese!

[@savagegeese]

Glad you appreciate it, and see so much value in it. Hope to keep it this way.

[@nphung01]

+savagegeese Love the music at the beginning.

[@loslakersjims894]

+Justin Reid Spread out the good news.

[@kiffstevenson2784]

Totally agree. I think you guys are the best (among many excellent) car review channels. Again, I really like how you examine the underside and engine bay of each car. Keep up the good work!!

[@MMC4009]

You should have over a million subscribers easy. Best car reviewer ever. It's like a TV show documentary of excellence.

[@NinoNlkkl]

best car reviewer, hands down.

[@sharviin6290]

Man, that intro music is sooo chilling~~~!!

[@FnVir]

Sharviin Sasasey what song

[@sundaresanchinnasamy3043]

Laya Project - Hailasa (Eastern Sprit remix) A Tamil language song from India 👍🏼

[@warlin16]

I've been shopping around a lot but thanks to this review I made my decision and I couldn't be happier. I got a 2017 SX-L optima and it's thanks to you Mr. Goose.

[@AndresHerrera]

LOL....the basketball scenes were hilarious!

[@knightmarel]

The SXL with Nappa leather looks really nice

[@mikeymike214]

and heard the seats are more comfortable than the sx leather seats.

[@Vencarter]

probably one of the best videos on this car ive seen. where the heck was this 2 months ago when i needed it? either way, i went with the optima and all i gotta say is that it totally blew the camry and accord out of the water for me.

[@gawdstockton483]

Vencarter how is it now?

[@Vencarter]

@@gawdstockton483 i got her when she had 12,000 miles and now almost 4 years, a handful of oil and filter changes +50,000 miles later? I'm still in love with this car. Only thing I've had to replace the tires, I enjoy long road trips that end up with a bit of driving on gravel, snow, ect. Not to mention the one SavageGeese reviewed is an SX while mine is the SXL (fully loaded af). I've gone to Vegas, Utah, Arizona, and up and down California, a fantastic "GT" type of car. Only thing missing is AWD, massage seats and a bit more power. I wish they made this car into a similar body type like the stinger or just bring the wagon version from EU over to the states but I can only dream for now.

[@julienhill6127]

@@Vencarter What are your thoughts about the speed? I'm looking at a 2019 and just wondering if they accelerate pretty fast, I've never had one.

[@Vencarter]

@@julienhill6127 speed is pretty good compared to others in 2016. After the all seasons wore out I switched it to a bit more performance tire and it actually made a difference in acceleration and handling. The key to beating almost everyone that isn’t tuned is sport mode, brake hold and hover over the pedal then press quickly but not stomp on the gas and feel 0-60 in about 5.4 sec with performance tires.

[@Vencarter]

@@julienhill6127 don’t be afraid to test drive it then walk away from the dealership so you can make a level headed decision

[@rbat115]

I'm sure you get this all the time, but your videos are very well put together. Very high quality work here and i just wanted to let you know I appreciate the effort and care you seem to put into this. :)

[@CrzyMav]

I have a 2013 Kia Optima SX Model witch is considered a sport. I love it!! It has plenty of power the paddle shifting works as you shift and the turbo just seems to give this car the power it needs. Inside and out its truly a grate car...

[@MPower396]

Great review! love the quality of the content especially the intro music

[@Flashbangs_]

Why doesn't this guy have more subscribers? I'am sharing this channel now. All of these are so brutally honest and unbiased it makes other review channels look like a joke.

[@khoaphan8490]

everything about this is literally perfect and I mean the video. Your best work so far imo.

[@Derpies]

I bought a 2015 Optima EX 2.3L GDI brand new, and I love the balance between handling and ride quality. It's not a high end luxury car, but I get 40 MPG and it handles corners very well, but is not harsh and soaks up the bigger bumps comfortably. For a $21k car, with a 10 year warranty, you get lots of room and a comfortable, fuel efficient ride.

[@rafalduda1796]

I'm watching a lots of them reviews from around the world but I have too say you guys are the best. I like when you get a car to the garage and showing us suspension and other things. Well done. Greetings from Poland!

[@sportsMike87]

Their designers know what they are doing. Very good looking car.

[@sac3528]

Their chief designer is Peter Schreyer. Peter used to work at audi, where he designed amongst other things, the TT and the R8.

[@cm6gaming259]

Please don't ever stop making these review videos. Best on KZbin. Period.Jason G.

[@dravencane258]

I was looking forward to a 2014 kia optima review from you since that was the last year they had all the power. your reviews are great and its refreshing to see someone review a car and not go out of their way to sell it to you on EVERY video.

[@MalamIbnMalam]

I'm a proud owner of a 2018 Optima SX-T with tech package.

[@JC-rm6pm]

Monsieur Africain that's nice, but you can get 2016 Optima SXT with under 30k miles for $22k right now, I guess those are 24mo. leasing cars, but I think it's a good deal, it's at least $12k less than a brand new.

[@MalamIbnMalam]

JC4 then you miss out on the upgraded headlights and foglights. But you are right, you can.

[@MalamIbnMalam]

JC4 BTW got mine for $29k

[@JC-rm6pm]

Monsieur Africain you got a good deal, what state is that?

[@MalamIbnMalam]

JC4, true, California. MSRP was $34,600. I bought it during the holiday in late November.

[@mnoble247]

I have a friend that is always Lexus or Infiniti. Lo and behold one day he pulls up in a 2016 Optima with all the trimmings grinning ear to ear. I really like that car. Just great styling, the panoramic roof is awesome.

[@boboutelama5748]

I like the opposition giving in a subtle ways. At the start, you mentionned how peoples are complaining about the power that was reduced a little bit, due to the introduction of a smaller turbo, that spools quicker. Then, during the test, you clearly point out that there is already too much power for a FWD. I believe it could be called "irony of the modern market". Peoples want HP, even if they don't have the right chassis for using it.

[@npo64]

I don't complain about the interior plastics. It's a car, not a piece of furniture. For the price and the excellent warranty plus reliability, I love this car. The style, the comfort and the value are some of the reasons why I keep buying Kia brand cars. Excellent video. So complete and knowledgeable.

[@Steven58]

Probably my next lease. I sat in one on Saturday. I noticed the soft touch was weird. It kind of crackled when I pushed on it. Your description of it explained what I felt. I have to say considering Drive quality and seat adjustments, this is the number one Contender for replacing my TDI.

[@Rynum]

Man the way the intro music was playing I was expecting Daniel Day Lewis to pop up with a tomahawk. Love the video!

[@da2ndshooter]

I like how I go back to a 5 year old review to determine if I'm going to buy a 2019 version of said car

[@Woodlandish]

Im glad that you pointed out that this is the official car of the NBA, because not too many people know that! As always, excellent attention to detail. Freakin love these reviews!

[@SoulSeeker20]

Just purchased my 2016 Kia Optima SXL!

[@rivaled]

Great video and review. I have a 2011 model (best looking imo) and there a few engine tuning options now available for the turbo models. (BTR, Lap 3, Utune). The aftermarket has grown slowly over the years. It is a lot of fun to drive. Resale value however still isn't there.

[@drumrsmith]

This car is the best!! Just bought a band new 2016 EX last saturday.

[@JRCxyz]

rahemma smith how much did it cost you?

[@aJerseyThing]

Just bought a brand new 2016 SXL today, cost me $34000 after tax.

[@a_long_strider]

Such a great review! Thinking of getting a CPO 2016 SX early next year and this just about put me over the edge

[@Jh-xs1og]

Do it I just got a cpo 16 sxl for the seats and 360 camera and the little red L badge just looks so good I can't stop driving it

[@jojo88430]

This was the video that made me buy my 2017 Optima SX last year. I wanted this to be the car I drove into the ground from owning it for as long as I could. But because of how crazy the market has been I was able to get out of my loan and make a little bit of cash. It was really hard to make that decision because it’s such a great car. My first couple cars I didn’t give a damn for when I got rid of them, this one felt like leaving my dogs to go to college.

[@hl6859]

Hi, do you have any knowledge about the reliability of the engine (turbo or NA)? I have tried to do some research but some people say the GDI is not good after ~60k miles (knocks, oil build up in the cylinders). Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

[@jojo88430]

@@hl6859 Well I can’t say anything about my specific car as I sold it before 40,000 miles. But I never had any problems. I did 2 oil changes, a battery change, and changed the air filters at the suggested time and never had to think about anything mechanical wise. However my father in law has a 2013 Optima that has basically the same engine but higher output and he’s well over 100,000 miles and doing all the scheduled maintenance. The only problems he has had was the paint peeling and something in the folding mirror wiring going nuts but everything engine and transmission wise works great. I think the goose has a fine print series on GDI engines and said that so long as you use a special cleaner every x amount miles you should avoid that build up problem but I could be misremembering. All in all, I think it’s a good engine, turbo or NA, and should be pretty reliable should you take care of it.

[@SoulSeeker20]

@@hl6859 Just know, like I soon will, as I'm getting a 2016 Kia Optima SXL, that these cars are known for engine failure. There was a class action lawsuit against Hyundai/Kia about 'faulty engines' and they had to recall like a million cars because of it. If you install the KSDS, it will give your engine a lifetime warranty. You have to be on point with your maintenance schedules, and to avoid headache in the future, only go to Kia to get those done or else they can more than likely deny any serious issue that may arise, should you wish to be compensated for it.

[@iamme7664]

Yup this is the video that made me buy my 2018 Kia Optima. I watched it 3 years and fell in love with the car. Haven’t had an issue with my Optima since I got it ❤

[@shopwithaaron]

Loving our new 2017 SXL...swift, quiet and the luxurious nappa leather interior in brown. Turbo engine really gets up and goes when prodded! Thanks for your review!

[@armandojuan64]

I'm devoted to your channel , your merciless soul precedes you , you are simply the best reviewer there is to watch . Blessings , Theo .

[@jorgenavarro8622]

I'm buying one this weekend. I'm sold. I'm getting this baby

[@sac3528]

I've often said that top gear was great for three things, and that one of them was cinematography. I got that same vibe here. Very nice work.

[@mariologuidice2109]

I just bought this car used, pre-owned certified from enterprise rent-a-cars car sales division. Ive been driving two days and have to agree with all the positive in the reviews i have seen. The more i drive it the more i like it. Well thought out, attention to detail.

[@hl6859]

Hi, do you have any knowledge about the reliability of the engine (turbo orNA)? I have tried to do some research but some people say the GDI is not good after ~60k miles (knocks, oil build up in the cylinders). Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

[@patrick7228]

Pretty sure you make some of the best videos on youtube as far as content and quality. Ridiculous you don't have more subscribers. Have you thought about blowing the cars up? Maybe fireworks in the opening segment?

[@lotterynj]

Hope all is well with Turbo....your reviews are such a welcome change. Love your reviews. The Basketball skit was hilarious I see why your wife is with you. Great work!

[@wtDrake]

I test drove a base LX model and it did not feel like a base model at all. Really comfortable ride with a solid and classy designed interior. Probably the best interior in its class in terms of ergonomics and comfort.

[@Albertolemus]

Excellent review. Mad ball skills, btw. I think KIA needs to do what Hyunday is planning on doing with the Genesis brand, it needs to set itself apart from the affordable car and get into the luxury car game. The optima might not be the car for it, but thinking of the Cadenza or the k-900? 9000? (or whatever the hell name is). And for the love of God, start offering AWD in its sedans. Also, I'd totally buy a wagon Optima. Here, take my money Kia.

[@tochjo772]

I was thinking kia can go more towards sport division direction hyundai luxury

[@banantwon]

+tochjo772 That's exactly what I was thinking as well because most people already have that mentally about the two.

[@crispinsugita9398]

+Alberto Lemus Well, Hyundai and Kia are part of the same company, so a luxury Kia division would kind of be redundant.

[@NinoNlkkl]

Alberto Lemus I've heard kia also will take apart for their lux division. they are going full speed ahead with no stoppin. "the korean style"

[@glendaly6367]

Do you remember the inarguably poorly made Kia Sephia from the late 90's to the early 2000's? I just remember how everybody that owned them had NOTHING good to say about them, and their reliability was non-existent.

[@normanrivera3836]

I have an Optima 2015 and I'm changing it for the 2016...Beautiful car!!!

[@hussali8838]

Norman Rivera that's not good for negative equity

[@normanrivera3836]

Huss Ali Well I end it up.keeping my 2015 Optima...I'm not changing it after all...They want to charge me 700 monthly for the 2016 when I'm confortably paying 348 for my 2015 and is a good car...

[@La-yt1wr]

Norman Rivera I currently own a 2014 Optima sxl I just hit 50,000 miles it’s well kept I was trying to figure out should I buy the Cadenza or stinger I want to go up a level I realized that I need a softer ride since I live in Missouri which has crappy roads

[@DieselDan09]

amazing you always seem to step up your game on every new video

[@Septemberxmusic]

Who the hell edited this, so fire bro 🔥🔥🔥

[@fortram]

Bought my Optima a year ago. Still very happy with it. Here in Russia we don't have many of them, mostly Camry. Now people started to understand that Optima is better for it's price.

[@cameronmyrick8312]

Just in case anyone sees this video and looking in the used market, I just picked up a 2016 sxl and hands down my favorite car ever. Such a fun car to drive. I work and drive in Dallas tx and flying around the interstates and loops is a joy.

[@jdavis234]

Cameron Myrick you think the sx was worth it compared to the other models ?

[@suryamp12]

Funniest review yet, you've got a real talent goose

[@detaart]

Good review. Personally, i can't say the car does much for me, but it seems to be a pretty good car overall. I just can't get excited over generic fwd 4 cyl turbo auto generic bullshit. Hope whatever happened with/to Scott isn't too bad ... hope to see him again next time.

[@detaart]

+Tristan Han Because it's in my subscriptions. A mid-sized family sedan doesn't have to be boring. I used to own an M5. That was exciting, lol. Sad that you equate mid-sized family sedan to boring generic power plants. I guess you must not be all that imaginative. So why are you responding to my comments?

[@ktg619]

Loving the cinematography

[@thesovereign4218]

I changed the tires on mine to Michelin Premiers. No more tire squeel and feels much more planted to the road.

[@edkelly145]

On my second Kia,only one problem in 5 years, a sticky gas release door. And that was with the 2011 model(first year out). The 2013 in Silver is a real looker in my opinion. Great review as always.

[@syzygysyzygy8332]

These are coming off leases now. Around 1/2 price of new with remainder of warranty, very tempting.

[@illitero]

It's great to see how far Korean manufacturers have come in just the last 5-7 years concerning design and quality. Now if only US manufacturers can pick up the pace in the same way. I've always dug the music and just noticed it's credited as in-house. Any chance they're made available outside of the videos?

[@savagegeese]

Agreed, end of the year I'll have a download for all the tracks.

[@radissimo1]

wow, such a great reviews you are doing,now I need to see them all...

[@DearMajesty]

Should've just stuck the 1.6 Turbo with the 7-speed DCT. I get to 60mph in 6.6 seconds in my Hyundai Sonata Eco now that it's fully broken in.

[@daddyeagen]

MotoBoy on a 1900 mile trip we averaged 37 mpg in our eco. Awesome car!

[@ft9kop]

They have the 7 speed and 1.6t in the EX trim now

[@jaynuck]

I’ve always thought these were great looking cars, but had the chance to drive one as a rental in the mountains, canyons and high desert of Colorado a few years ago. We drove over 1100 miles across 4 days, and I very much enjoyed the car (and it wasn’t even the turbo model).

[@kadie1414]

Those kicks make that attempted layup even more historical!!

[@NileshR12]

Here we are in 2022, & I'm strongly considering getting this car used with low miles, especially bc of the value for the $$ with the features & performance you get in this car

[@hoofixrman]

Best auto reviewer on tube.

[@AndyInLearning]

I just like this channel's review.

[@robertwilliams6218]

Another great review. I am happy to see a different color interior than black or that really easy stained white. Hope to see some VW reviews sometime.

[@apocalypznow]

Really enjoy your reviews, particularly this one. Great dialog, great personal presentation, excellent attention to detail, clear, and videography is very professional.

[@savagegeese]

Thank you, we spent plenty of time on this one.

[@ConsciousRobot]

Kia has really been stepping up their game lately, and I think they really need a new badge to help reflect that. Their badge still carries a bit of a stigma because it reminds everyone of their former reputation for crappy cars. They are a new brand now.

[@vlads2874]

This car looks so good, I want one.

[@TheBel43]

i really love to buy this car.thanks for the review.now i know whats my next vehicle.cant wait to drive this car.

[@iBJanky]

Excellent review as always. You're my favorite car reviewer on KZbin by far. Any chance of you doing a review for the new 2016 Honda Pilot Elite?

[@savagegeese]

+iBJanky Honda/Acura is a 2016 project.

[@Rockinthehill]

I concur with your assessment of the optima. I've had 5 or 6 of these now my latest is the 2017 LX (FE) used but the previous owner added some nice extra features like Homelink. They only put 6k on her and I picked this up for around 13K.

[@hl6859]

Hi, do you have any knowledge about the reliability of the 4 cylinders? I have tried to do some research but some people say the GDI is not good after ~60k miles (knocks, oil build up in the cylinders). Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

[@timbuktug3321]

I’m thinking about getting one. I currently drive a Kia Forte.

[@mariologuidice2109]

Timbuktu G i just bought it for $21,000 with 21,000 miles on it, its turning out fo be a gem. Enjoying it only for two days now. Should definitely test drive one.

[@timbuktug3321]

chris haffey will do.

[@slocavky]

My 2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.0T I had, I absolutely hated the engine and transmission. It had a ungodly loud high pressure fuel pump. Buzzed way to bad. I got rid of it 13 months later. I have a 2018 elantra sport now and LOVE it..

[@momoreh3487]

Is the elantra sport faster then ur sonata?

[@dreambigvake4243]

Just got my Kia optima 2018 SXL never saw this video but Im glad I got this car it is really nice

[@skfotograf]

I have exactly the same, KIA looks amazing in white color the same as Sorento, Santa Fe, Tucson...just looking richer and it fits so well to them.

[@scruffdaddy3000]

Thanks Scott. Good info that's to the point, as well as tight, clean production.

[@dylanw9412]

I love the stats you gave yourself during the basketball section... Hahaha

[@terrellgibbs7423]

0:15 that music is hot for a RnB track forreal. like the car too

[@ugotserved911]

Terrell Gibbs it's indian music

[@zorajohn]

What is the name of this song

[@shadmansudipto7287]

@@ugotserved911 what's the name man?

[@megaming7238]

This is my car! :-D I have it in "Remington Red"

[@PCConditioning]

OUTSTANDING video. First time commenting and I just wanted to say keep up the GREAT work. Beautiful vehicle I'll add to my 'need to test drive' list. Quick Question: You said toward the end it's one of your 'top choices overall,' so I was curious what are your other top choices in this segment? I know Mazda 6 would be one but do you have any others?

[@savagegeese]

Thanks for comment, Optima - Mazda6 - Accord V6 - Sonata - Camry. Try them be curious on your opinion.

[@edkelly145]

On my third Optima SLX....they have been bullet prove for me. Love the wireless charging in my 2016. The car is much quieter now also.

[@hl6859]

Hi, do you have any knowledge about the reliability of the engine (turbo or na)?I have tried to do some research but some people say the GDI is not good after ~60k miles (knocks, oil build up in the cylinders). Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you.

[@1969cmp]

The tan leather, black plastic with some chrome looks really good.

[@vergilwarren2403]

Cygnus Lactation Services lol, he cracks me up with the addresses he puts in on the info screens

[@mikeschroeder7703]

Looking forward to your review of the 2018 Kia Stinger GT2

[@helloandrewc]

I don't understand why he would turn traction and stability control off and then complain about torque steer and peeling the tires... i'd assume Kia has tuned those systems to help calm down the front wheels during acceleration and hard driving.

[@savagegeese]

+ac12311 The reason behind turning the aids off is to show how the actual chassis and car behaves under load. A vehicle that is better setup will be more neutral and less reliant on electronic controls to banaid issues.

[@NhatHuyNg]

Great review as always, both aesthetically and informatively. May i ask what kind of camera you used to shoot it?

[@savagegeese]

GH4 with Nocticron and other lens also use host of ND etc. Sony Action cams and Panasonics.

[@dons1643]

one of your top choices overall, nice... I'm deciding on buying a new car and stopped here, the other review from another person didn't talk to highly of this car but after watching this review I'll go out to the Kia dealer and test drive one... I'm deciding between Honda Accord, Civic and this Kia Optima and maybe a used Acura. thanks

[@Emloki]

What an excellent review. 👍👍

[@xconankunx4530]

love the editing! ^^

[@BWTECH0521]

omg the nba bit was epic!!! why am I discovering this now lmaoooo

[@kmf7515]

Boss! You are the best. Truly and inspirational too. Would you be able to give me the link of your opening music. Its very smoothly.

[@oibal60]

Superb review. Subscribed!

[@jovianlitany]

Finally someone who plays basketball as well as I do.

[@Forte_Pachino]

You gotta like once I seen you get out in the bulls jersey,and used Stacy king’s commentary lol🔥🔥

[@TassieLorenzo]

Man, that Hyundai Nurburgring centre looks a lot bigger than Honda's trusty old Nurburgring workshop.

[@werbrown]

Great review, thanks

[@camchannel88]

I really enjoyed this, I'll subscribe!

[@sriontube]

i like the disco theme to the speedometer

[@steveaustin1265]

How well are the engines holding up?

[@Hershy-pr7rp]

It's a beautiful car. But why are there no fog lights?

[@jaredshelton4718]

Hershey Sperber The headlights have a special technology eliminating the need for fog lights, but due to people complaining and still wanting fog lights, you can get them on the new 2018 model.

[@BC-cp5vr]

I know this is a year later, but here is the answer, they replaced the fog lights with the vents for 2 reasons. 1: It reduces the wind noise. 2: It cools the front brakes.

[@manny3602]

I just got a 2012 optima lx and it has fog lights.. it’s a hybrid... and boy Is it fast 💨