Review | 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor | Want vs. Need

When the chance came around to review the Ford Raptor, expectations were already high because of the hype train. But after a grounded real-world experience with the truck, things changed. We have reviewed most of the half-ton options like the Tundra, Silverado and driven the RAM off road and found modern trucks have become quite serious in terms of interior space and quality. All that means is the Raptor has some proving to do. This is not a casual short review, be prepared for a deep dive on the Raptor including pros and cons.
This vehicle is a fundraiser car designed to support a local non-profit. If you would like to donate to win this vehicle please check out Tri-Industries webpage:
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SavageGeese is:
Mr. Goose -
Scott Turbowski - V8 Seeker
Jack Singapore - Driver
Index:
00:00 - 00:35 Intro
00:35 - 1:45 Donate to Win The Raptor
1:45 - 5:40 Exterior Impressions
5:40 - 10:45 Interior Impressions
10:45 - 13:40 In the Shoppe with Turbowski - Suspension
13:40 - 15:35 Off Road Impressions
15:35 - 17:07 Shoppe - AWD and 4WD Explanation
17:07 - 20:05 Shoppe - Rear Suspension and Towing
20:05 - 24:49 Shoppe - Engine Discussion
24:49 - 32:00 Driving Impressions
32:00 - 33:40 Final Thoughts
33:40 - Donate to Win the Raptor

[@TheDarkArkhan]

"I am no small man..." goes on saying he's 5'9 and a "stealthy" 150 lbs. Well played sir, well played.

[@microtransactions2661]

Most recent video "I am small in every single aspect of my body"

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

“Stealthy.” Lol.

[@Clam73]

Spray-in bedliner is needed for this truck so those bags from Macy's don't scratch the bed.

[@ravenjames3873]

it's not needed

[@RockyTop1911]

LOL

[@pacman1789]

Raven James It is needed or did you not watch the video.

[@jerkychew899]

Have a 2017 Raptor. Can confirm.

[@pahwraith]

You mean Nordstrom. Macy's! ahahahahahaha.

[@KingKwon]

I've never owned a truck or were even remotely interested in owning a truck, until I seen the first gen Raptor. The capabilities really sold me on the first Raptor. Love driving fast and have always loved things that go fast. Never in my life did I ever consider going fast off-road. My '14 Raptor changed all that. Sold the '14 and purchased the '17 back in Feb. Second generation is a improvement in every single catergory except the sound but that's expected going from a burly V8 to a V6. I was hesitant going into the second gen because of it. However, once you get in the second gen and romp on the throttle, that V8 throatiness becomes a afterthought. Never been a size queen as I grew up with 4 cylinders back in the '90s. Always respected engines that were super efficient with creation of power (i.e. low displacement high hp). I know most superficial people rag on the new Raptor because of the lack of a V8. No idea how you can complain when the power output puts the V8 to shame WHILE getting much better gas mileage. Yeah, I went from averaging 12 mpg to 16.5 mpg in the new one and I don't pussy foot around my daily commute. To clear things up a bit, the video made it seem like the 2nd gen isn't that much faster in acceleration than the 1st gen. Completely false. 2nd is noticeably faster than the 1st. 1st gen Raptor was far from quick and as a matter of fact that was my biggest complaint coming from sports cars and sportbikes. I wasn't delusional enough to think a truck weighing over 6K lbs would be fast, but get in the 2nd gen and romp on it. It is a very quick truck.

[@fahadalshahrani7298]

King Kwon after one year I have questions for u.. What about plastic oil pan and oil plug ? Is there any oil lake

[@jericho8566]

King Kwon thank you! You get it! It was so annoying listening to him bitch about sound...SOUND! The v6 may not have sound but it is the FAR superior engine in every other way! The 2nd gen Raptor is the better truck period! And to the oil pan, yes they leak it’s a know common problem but u can either get ford to reseal the bolt (takes a couple days), or u can swap it out for a metal one.

[@dan4500]

@@fahadalshahrani7298 2nd half of 2017 that is fixed, the 1st half of 2017 they sold plastic oil pans. Now they sell metal oil pans.

[@tjk9263]

If im not mistaken, that V6 turbocharged EcoBoost they use in the Raptor is the same engine they put in the Ford GT supercar ofcourse they use a totally different transmission for the GT but i would expect the Raptor to be really quick using the same engine as the GT.

[@scottfree6479]

I disagree, sold my 2014 V8 for a 2019 v6 and it was a terrible decision. Less low end torque, bad sound, crappy turbo feel, cheaper doors, etc. 2014 raptor is the best vehicle Ford ever made. I’d gladly trade back to my old one, but it’s long gone now. They either give us a solid V8 for next gen or I’m done buying Ford. With the Rivian r1t and the Cybertruck around the corner there is no reason to put up with a crappy boosted v6.

[@cloudk2088]

Hey man its really cool of you for working with Tri Industries helping to support Veterans and Disabled! I most definitely will be donating to them.

[@ravenjames3873]

ya it's definitely a good cause.

[@tommartin1223]

Redzo79 you are an ass

[@rkalla]

LOL "I tore my ACL petting cats... at the zoo."

[@CARS_AT_100]

I never had those at all

[@cullennowell]

I know! I lost it lol

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

That's why we subscribe. The dry, non-stop wit.

[@daytonasayswhat9333]

Big cats.

[@joes.7536]

One thing I would note that this pickup is good for, riding on rough roads in Illinois and Michigan. I rode in one 6 months ago to go to the casinos in Detroit. The roads down there are in garbage condition in this truck just soaks up the bumps so well. The kind of bumps I would slam on my brakes for in my German sedan to save the rim are nothing for this truck

[@e78491]

I definitely don't need this. But I need this.

[@frankly2677]

haha, "drive over any curb to get to the front of the line" I'm 💀 2:55

[@onebreh]

and with his understanding and agreeable voice

[@jimscobie6646]

Because he knows 99% of the buyers are just going to drive it around the city to look cool.

[@roadracer247]

It's like he kinda wants to hate it, but has to admit that it's a great truck. Not perfect, but show me anything that is...

[@shaneruthven]

Be grateful you don’t get the pitiful excuse for a Raptor that is offered in Australia. What a joke with its “Ford Performance” insignia emblazoned on the rocker panel. It has an asthmatic 2.0 twin turbo 4cyl diesel that would be lucky to pull the skin off custard.

[@gvnproductions1037]

Lmaoooo “WHERES MY PROTEIN SHAKE!?”

[@Gameday2159]

"A stealthy 150 pounds" god I love you lol

[@ravenjames3873]

im 160

[@diydrivenGA]

those paddle shifters wear size 9 shoes

[@Callediceman]

I drive a Miata Daily and when one of these gets behind me i move over because i dont think they can see me. lol . Great video!

[@adamm.1367]

Optional tailgate dancing pole...lol Don't change Savagegeese👍

[@Fadic4]

It’s always a good day when savagegeese uploads any video.

[@bilalsharper1469]

Yeah I love his car reviews. All these car journalists need to take notes.

[@saulespino2510]

I love how the cars/trucks get on the lift for us to see what's under the car

[@TheCobruhAlienat0r]

11:58 You missed a perfect opportunity to throw in the famous clip of the Raptor doing that huge jump and it landing really hard and deploying the airbags.

[@savagegeese]

+TheCobruhAlienat0r Id have to get license to use it.

[@illitero]

So I went into this video with the thought of "alright, let's see if this is something Turbowski can tear down." Sure enough, he's got his grumpy pants on with his demeanor of disdain, casting those trademark contemptuous looks to-and-fro as he hangs off a control arm thicker than Nicki Minaj whilst proclaiming, "You're gonna have to give me the scoop 'cause all I see is some big shocks." I understand, Turbowski. I, too, am not allowed any semblance of happiness. When you show a smidgen of a fractional hint of joy, _they_ win.

[@ldodom]

You did a really outstanding job of reviewing this vehicle, Mark. Just enough Turbowski - without curdling the milk ("girl's truck" comment notwithstanding ... lol). Props to you for being so creative and tapping Tri-Industries for this review. Your work just gets better and better. Thank you for covering vehicles of more substance in recent months.

[@nelsonquinnell7656]

I have been watching car/truck/motorcycle review videos for more than 5 years now, and I just recently stumbled upon yours. You sir have quickly become my favorite. Thorough, entertaining, and no nonsense. Keep up the good work, and I commend you for ditching the proverbial 9 to 5 and doing what you love.

[@savagegeese]

Thanks a lot, just started doing this full time in June.

[@lalomartinez9573]

Best review I’ve ever heard, goes into detail and spits facts and pros and cons. Love it keep it up

[@botdingo]

"While you were reading this, I farted" why does that shirt fit Scott perfectly

[@jdmercard]

Well done man. This is the most in depth review I've seen and I appreciate how through you are. A +

[@MikeGravelle1]

Always great reviews and amazing quality. Love the sense of humor that comes across your videos as well.

[@ashtonmurch2142]

You're videos are so freakin good man. Highest quality out there.

[@dererce]

One of the best reviews I have seen so far. Thanks for that!

[@986C]

Love your review format. The technicals is what no one else does well.

[@Driven-Productions]

Love your reviews man. You just have a great vibe and are very detailed. Keep up the good work!

[@Thelnferno]

Out of all the Ford Raptor YT reviews, this is the absolute best one!

[@RockyTop1911]

Absolute best review I have seen on this Truck and I have watched a ton of them.

[@wraith8323]

Like banging a supermodel, I will never get 'used to' the quality of these reviews. Thank you for this channel

[@ObsessedGarage]

Well timed for me. I want one of those hats!

[@timothycc711]

As a Ford F150 owner I of course aspire to own this vehicle. Thank you Savage for your in depth details that you cant get anywhere else. Mark you are the best KZbin reviewer bar none. Turboski rubbed me the wrong way due to his propensity for Chevy but he is growing on me, lol. I have been watching all your reviews lately.

[@kyle_throws_tools]

I got to drive one of these last week. I drive a lot of nice newer cars at my job, so it's hard to impress me anymore. This truck impressed me. It's incredibly comfortable, the steering and handling is confidence-inspiring, and it's quick. I'm generally NOT a Ford fan, but I'm lusting for one of these now.

[@hunterdonnelly7422]

These are by far the most thorough car reviews I've ever seen

[@davidhobbs5807]

I've had a 5.8 litre V8 Ford Bronco for the past 20 years , 350,000 miles, original engine. Honestly I don't give two hoots about having that V8 rumble. Ill take more power over sound any day, besides I want a quiet cabin., Also the look of the new Raptor dissolves away the lack of not having V8 sound. I believe that if you put it in Baja mode the acceleration is greater than any other mode. The old 6.2 V8 Raptor was a bit of a slug compared to the new one, and fooling ones self with greater engine noise is kind of a foolish trade off. This Saturday will be the best Saturday of my life its when I pick up my new 2018 Raptor. And I have no regrets it doesn't have some sluggish rumbling engine under the hood.

[@bcab7955]

This review is a one liner gold mine! Awesome work SG.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

LOL, "dance pole"! Great video! I love your dry sense of humor.

[@MultiJebusChrist]

"That's right; it has a dance pole!" lmao

[@gvnproductions1037]

Savage upload this early? IM HYPE 😁😁😁

[@square4575]

I enjoy your look at all the vehicles you review, reality, telling the truth. This makes me want it even more!

[@frankburns8871]

God dammit, I'm so easily persuaded. I was just set on a Honda Ridgeline from the last video. Now I'm sure this insane beast is the only way to go. Couldn't be more opposite, yet there it is.

[@shaneruthven]

Concise and to the point, love the fact there is no crappy ongoing background music

[@VoIPPortland]

02:50 - HAHAHA - allow you to get into any drive thru!! The best. Mall cruisers and their 4x4s. I know cause I'm one. Had to subscribe - very funny humor here. Watched the whole video - seriously one of the best overall I've ever seen. Great channel.

[@schlagboy]

What a ridiculously great and thorough video you made for this car, I mean truck! You did your homework!

[@poot111111]

I don't even think Jeremy Clarkson could justify owning this truck, the main time I see Ford Raptors is in the drive thru of Taco Bell at 3 am

[@SurajV320]

Absolutely loved this episode!! Cheers!

[@FishingBenB]

This channel does the best car reviews on the internet!

[@nicholas5139]

Dude, you have to remember, this interior is amazing. It's not just good, it seriously amazing. Maybe that's in my opinion, but the cabin is amazing to what I see. This is one of the few pick up trucks I want to haul with and drive as a dd.

[@disinferno06]

Perfect title. I am in love with the looks of this truck, enough so that I seriously considered buying one. But when I thought about it, there wasn't ONE thing about this vehicle that I actually needed.

[@quazdh3462]

Love Turbowski's reaction to the engine XD

[@markzenzo6206]

This is the best review I have seen so far.

[@alexisamtosta]

Now this is a proper off roader.. In my personal opinion, no maker in the world beats Ford in this matter.

[@gregorys6838]

Another note of silliness. "Your are looking at the most anticipated...." and the truck is out of focus......but cool, you're focused. How clever.

[@ripfletching]

This is a very good review and very fair I had watched one other of your videos produced by this KZbin channel and it seemed very biased and I was not interested in watching any other from this channel but this video is very well done because the public knows this is a very good vehicle for those of you who have driven or ridden in this truck it’s top quality and I’m glad to see this shines through on your review thank you

[@bk138gt6]

Great review. My buddy just bought one of these and absolutely loves it

[@snazari1994]

Those bf Goodrich KO2s aren't that aggressive, they're perfectly good for the road.

[@jonasobado8524]

I’m relieved. Here I am thinking I’m the only dude who’s ever torn an ACL while petting my cat. Seriously though this is one of the most information filled reviews on a Raptor.

[@jordanb450]

Stiff in the pants lol maybe when I saw that man-step and pole, but you broke my heart when you didn't dance on it...helluva throw back to the first SG video I ever watched lmao

[@kingkong-og4qu]

hillarious as always and great reviews and yes i am watching of cars i cant buy ever in my life

[@masterwhopper414]

Lower it, give it street tires, regular cab formation... You guessed it! I WANT A RAPTOR RS, FORD, MAKE IT HAPPEN

[@splewy]

masterwhopper414 Ford basically did that with the last gen F-150. Look up the F-150 Tremor. Almost no one bought it. Their value on the used market is horrendous too. Used car dealers are practically giving them away. Turns out, there really is very little demand for single cab, street sport trucks. The vast majority people want big, tall crew cabs and big, chunky tires when shopping for a truck. Hence the truck in this video.

[@masterwhopper414]

I remember the Tremor - and no, the value is not horrendous, I can hardly find them (going rate is almost the same as base 2015+ F150) It wasn't a true sports truck like the Lightning was, Ford just stuck in the 3.5 TT in the regular cab and sold it just like that. The SVT can probably make it even better than they did before.

[@CanadianMax]

Excellent review! Hit the nail on the head with so many issues plaguing supposed high performance trucks.

[@jimscobie6646]

I was debating if this was the truck for me but, that dance pole .......I'm sold!

[@Croozer]

The Raptor is not a rock crawler, it is based on a desert racer.

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

Which so many people do.

[@devildog5354]

And, it looks really good parked next to your home... Semper Fi..

[@ghuff31]

I mean, what's next? " We took a Hellcat to an offroad rally and it had problems..."

[@MaxSupercars]

The best Raptor review I have seen... :)

[@bjmcdole6294]

I'm currently driving my 4th Raptor. No, I don't go off-road much (or at all) but I enjoy the performance, the look, the details and exclusivity of the truck.

[@austinhorne7581]

I just realized Ive been saying damping wrong as "dampening" lol thanks for the additional insight. Awesome review again, as always.

[@fraserhenderson7839]

Top center mark is practically mandatory for very "energetic" driving behaviors. This thing isn't hard core but it will effortlessly execute "hard core" if you want it. In reality, it is a very smooth operator.

[@bjmcdole6294]

Great video! I enjoyed watching, almost 3 years later...

[@dimitrimendrinos2049]

Best Raptor review out there.

[@baseballa1639]

Haha I must admit, when I started watching this video, I thought the way you were speaking was a bit odd. But after your comments (protein shake, petting cats, pole dancing) I think you are a genius at making these videos haha. Bravo

[@Volosimi]

Great review, very articulated, thanks.

[@rapopp]

Dear Mr Goose, Son!...You are F@#king Killing It!!! Hands down...No Bullshit...you have the Best KZbin auto review channel...period.

[@jessevaroz1]

I watch a lot of car reviews. great episode, and just great work overall on all your videos. Id be interested to see your review on the velar as well if you havent already done one.

[@daClaytonBigsby]

that push up smile at the end!

[@future62]

They should bring back the Lightning. An RCSB 5.0L only weighs like 4200lbs. They wouldn't even have to supercharge it; that's only 500lb more than a Mustang GT

[@ghidirayojimbo1689]

Nice to see you having fun again.

[@GeneGatech]

Exterior driving shots - nice!!

[@carcrazysammy]

Savagegeese, your reviews are by far the best. Can't wait for the next one. Please let me know how to donate to the channel. Sammy

[@ohpotatoesandmolasses]

Watch out RCR -- the Goose is coming after your brand of humor at full speed. Fuck this is so good.

[@WillMotivation]

Great review hahaha love the sense of humor. I hope to add a Raptor to my KZbin channel asap!

[@hyypersonic]

5:19 lmao wtf

[@alexshe9552]

If I move to the countryside I will buy a raptor. It’s really good.

[@SuperstarPecanbar]

Does Turbowski actually like any car?

[@aeperformance48]

camaros lol

[@KSeguraR]

He fucking hates all American cars...

[@isaiahcat3523]

GT3

[@jakehunter3434]

Porsche

[@mauricemotors8207]

@@KSeguraR I do to most of them because there junk.

[@user-li1mj1jx2j]

Can you set up a Soundcloud/Pandora/Spotify account where you and Turbowski share your favorite driving tunes? We want to judge/bash your taste.

[@Aaron-ui9tj]

I would subscribe to a Spotify playlist immediately.

[@vincentlee9638]

Plz do this

[@bradley9442]

Great review and spot on! I like this Raptor and have one on order. It's not for everybody, for sure. Do I "need" it NO...do I want it YES!! I've always had V8 trucks until my 2016 King Ranch with the 3.5 EB. EB better mileage (not by much) but with so much more torque would kick the crap out of my 2013 Platinum's 5.0. Looking forward to the HO EB power and torque...I do hope the turbo whine is noticeable like on my 2016 KR. Also, the "piped in" engine noise can be defeated with FORScan adjustment. Thanks again and also enjoyed your review of the GT350, so much I have one parked in my garage ;)

[@jeffreyjones5990]

Dude this is the best car Channel anywhere. Your videos are works for art. Great job.

[@giovannivergara94]

80% of "truck people" including myself don't need, but rather want a full size pick-up

[@steven2212]

Great video, noble cause. Thank you.

[@jamminhard]

Decent review, However, before you comment that it’s not fast enough, place it in Baja mode and put it in 2 wheel drive. My SuperCrew ran 0-60 in 5.1 seconds stock! Not many vehicles that weigh 5,800 lbs can do that stock. Also, your towing capacity numbers were off: 8,000 lbs for the SuperCrew; 6,000 for the SuperCab. As far as knocking the HO 3.5 sound, I love an old V8 grumble as much as anyone; however, I haven’t found a truck owner yet to line up beside me since I smoked my buddy’s 2014 Raptor and a 2017 Dodge Ram Rebel. I’d rather be first than eat dust any day!

[@savagegeese]

+jamminhard I fuk'd up towing specs and did not catch it. I tried all modes including baja mode and its fast for a truck but I think after getting in and out so many cars that do that or faster. The Subaru WRX I just got out of is faster the Genesis G80 which is a pig at 4500lbs is faster and the Audi A5 2.0T is about the same. Now yes the Raptor is fast for a truck but its average in terms of many vehicles. Now who cares about specs and all that. No one is buying the Raptor for that but I had to bring it up.

[@jamminhard]

You are reviewing a truck, not a car. If I wanted to know what an Audi or Hyundai car or SUV is capable of, I wouldn’t be looking to compare them to a Raptor. Just like I wouldn’t mention comparison of a motorcycle and a car...just makes no sense! Like most viewers, I want to know what, if anything, compares to the Raptor with similar capabilities on and off road.

[@2003evodave]

Agreed! I do miss my V8 sound but the power delivery on my 2017 Raptor is impressive compared to 2014 stock 6.2 raptor. However after 6 months of driving I kind wish I had kept the old truck with only 79k miles on it and freshen up the engine plus supercharged it. Ultimately the big seller for me on the 2017 was all the high tech. Wish I could afford to have both but needed a new 3500 dually diesel too sooooo.

[@RagingBad]

jamminhard STFU he's one of the best reviewers if not the best on KZbin

[@Jshawty13]

I think adding an aftermarket exhaust and downpipes would make this truck sound almost as good as a V8.... not as throaty though. It makes good power for a V6 but the NSX has it beat by 123 hp. But it also weighs 3 tons so of course the acceleration isn't going to blow you away. I think people seem to forget about the truck that dominated this performance truck segment when it was introduced, and that was the Supercharged TRD Tundra. 504 hp, 0-60 of 4.4 seconds, and 1/4 mile of just over 12 seconds. That is a ridiculous truck and still a V8 so you get the amazing sound plus supercharger whine, and acceleration thats faster than a Mustang GT and Charger/Challenger R/T. If i were to get a truck, the Tundra would be it. But, the new Raptor is definitely on my list, I love the way it looks.

[@DieselDan09]

Obsessedgarage will be all over this!

[@svt101]

DieselDan09 I think he just bought one

[@alexenns3203]

It sounds great!

[@blackstaticband]

I love your sense of humor.. lol

[@intensifier2182]

I absolutely love mine.

[@sunsetrider45]

I had a Toyota Tercel once, the exhaust sounded just like this Raptor :-)!

[@Acc0rd79]

When Clarkson used this in the Grand Tour and said it was a very good car, that's saying something!

[@mattmayden9188]

The same V8 with no power was put in the 1996 mustang gt. It was so slow, but felt so fast. Sensory overload! I have one.

[@P51]

Scott Turbo-Ski is right on the money. For 80 large, it should have a V8.

[@directorjustin]

Craig Williams I would like electric.

[@xxovoxx6053]

so when they say that they are beadlock capable does that mean that I have to buy the ring separately??

[@030604lill]

I’ve watched plenty of your vids, and by far, this was the most amusing and comedic ones yet. That dance pole and protein shake bit was funny as shit😂I’ve stopped watching for information provided and now watch for entertainment purposes lol.