Review | 2017 Honda Civic | Character Included

[@Flakey86]

My lord, the Turbowski montage was everything I hoped it could be.

[@kaidendax9992]

sorry to be offtopic but does anybody know a way to log back into an instagram account?? I was stupid forgot my password. I would love any assistance you can give me!

[@troycallan4776]

@Kaiden Dax instablaster ;)

[@rmirabelle]

I can corroborate this car's drive-ability. It instills confidence. Its sportiness and agility make it an experience wholly different than any Honda I've ever driven. Quite frankly, I'm blown away. Amazing value.

[@rkalla]

LOL I love the idea that Scott has no idea how you are introducing him and his segment in these reviews. Great fun touch.

[@maximus9401]

Honda did make it a point that they're listening to the owners by bringing back the volume knob starting with the new CRV

[@HunterDugasVideos]

This might sound weird, but I love the side mirror design. It actually looks good and it's not just a standard mirror lol

[@mattmolloy636]

Hunter Dugas I agree, the attention to detail is apparent with this car.

[@MisakiLeasim]

you need an award for that Turbowski intro alone

[@FasterThanSoup]

Oh my God, that Turbowski introduction!! Bahahaha! Please loop that that on a separate video!

[@HemiLyfestyle]

FasterThanSoup that was hella funny dude, his intro was freaking hilarious

[@scottieray]

I was actually hoping "Turbowski" would be picked up for another season. I smell an Emmy.

[@BikerJim74]

That Turbowski intro Ahahahahahah

[@ju348a]

I hope the uses it for all the videos going forward!

[@andrewreyes986]

ju348a agreed!!!

[@rickhaak5256]

Andrew Reyes eb43

[@juliussmith4001]

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[@thesqaanalyst]

I had to immediately replay the Turbow intro....LOL

[@rowsdower12]

I love how you go over the mechanics, I don't know much of it but I love learning

[@Dowlphin]

He not only goes over the mechanics, he also quizzes one.

[@xchazz86]

One of the most thoughtful and useful car reviews I've ever seen.

[@DK-fv2zj]

That was a very honest and comprehensive review. Thank you! I hope Honda is watching because you have definitely given them some food for thought.

[@Sandbar3D]

I actually quite like the looks of this generation Civic.

[@dbear6148]

I really like the new look of the Civic, and I like the color, which reminds me of the green on my old Mazda 2, although this is a bit lighter. I don't care if it looks strange because it's different. It would certainly be easy to find in a parking lot. That being said, if I was in the market for a compact car I would still probably pick a Mazda 3 over this, especially the Mazda 3 hatchback with the 2.5L engine. I would get that great Mazda handling, around the same HP as this car with probably better long term reliability, a better transmission than a CVT, and an infotainment system that is actually user friendly, all at around a similar price. Still, I applaud Honda for actually trying to be different instead of just making another econ-o-box. With some more refinement this car could be the best compact.

[@mattmolloy636]

D Bear yeah, a lot of us would still go for the Mazda 3. This car did a great job, but I think the customer base that prefers function over fashion is definitely going to go for the Mazda 3 every time.

[@dannydeleney2810]

matt molloy It's the other way around. No offense, but the Mazda 3 has the edge in two things: driving dynamics and styling (subjective). Yes, those two are important, but the car loses to its competition in other areas as well. Take the newest Civic for example, it offers way more space and functionality, better NVH mitigation (i.e. refinement), and better fuel economy. The trade-off is that it only has about 85% of the "fun-to-drive" feeling of the Mazda 3. After that, the competitors are offering better connectivity; though I don't see it as important as the aforementioned features. Anyway, your assertion of Mazda 3 being function over fashion is incorrect. The 2017 refresh was commendable, but the Mazda 3 is half a generation behind in aspects other than being "fun to drive" (plus the competition is catching up).

[@t.k.morris]

What I like so much about the Mazda3 is that you get the naturally aspirated 2.5L motor and the body style. I am currently driving the 2006 Mazda3 5sp sedan and wanted to buy a new Mazda this year but they are not offering the manual in either the 3 or 6 sedan!!! Really pissed me off! I don't know if I will take the 5sp hatchback or the automatic sedan or neither one! My 2006 has been very reliable and I still enjoy driving it even though it only has the 2.0L motor. It is still very enjoyable to drive.

[@werbrown]

Another great review, you're one of the best on KZbin. I always enjoy your reviews.

[@marctut]

I love how the last Navigation search was for local Gentleman's Clubs. Hahahaha.

[@savell234]

Love how the speed gets censored as it goes up.

[@Dwdrummer1995]

he doesn't want video evidence of him committing a crime lol

[@therealpickleahoy]

OMG that Turbowski intro tickled me just the right way!I want more!!!!

[@ihodl4real15]

Scott's intro is something else haha. Great review!

[@georgiaguardian4696]

This review is amazingly detailed. Every car review should be like this. Even I may not be buying this car, I enjoy the narrative and description of the review.

[@Ratdaddy752]

It's all about the 6 speed for the base model!!! You made so many great points. Fantastic review

[@riley1733]

Got the 2018 LX Coupe model a couple weeks ago. Black colour and 6 speed standard. Absolutely love that car. I recommend it to anyone who's looking for a new car. Definitely worth the money and it's crazy fun to drive. Probably gonna stick with Honda when it comes to vehicles. My old car was a Honda Civic as well. CRV's are nice too but don't think they come with a manual transmission. It's too bad because if they did, I would've maybe gotten one someday. Drove a CRV before as well and loved it.

[@Xezthos]

why didn’t you just get the Si ?

[@riley1733]

@@Xezthos I wanted to get one but none was available at the time and my old car had problems and it was an automatic (I wanted a standard too which is one of the other reasons I got rid of my old car). I finally did get an Si though in March. I love it.

[@cruzer6181]

Holy crap, this is the best video yet! I don't even care about the car, but you just next-leveled it with the Turbowski intro. HO LEE COW that was brilliant. Civic is impressive and thanks for the balanced review- but is really worth almost $30K?! I remember when Civics were half that. They give you more now, but damn... CVT and turbo.. this is not the bulletproof Hondas that will last forever like the old days...

[@foehammerone]

Car journalists have to say what the MSRP of the car is. You can get a 16/17 Touring for around 26k out-the-door in most places. I paid 24,100 OTD for my 2016 EX-L Sedan with a few accessories.

[@cruzer6181]

Nice, thanks. Yes it seems the prices topping in the low to mid 20s seems reasonable for the Civic.

[@markavera9184]

Absolutely love your reviews. I know you put a lot into them and it shows. please keep up the stellar work.

[@ctsfiddler]

These reviews have everything, humor included, just great.

[@Fadic4]

Yessss thank god you started reviewing Honda's

[@BernonCars]

**Thank god Honda started giving him cars** lol

[@TheDustyaman]

ThatGearHead True

[@lawrencelei8267]

gentlemen's club had me cracking up

[@socalpipedude]

I bought this car for my daughter yesterday based solely on your review. Honda should pay you a commission! Keep up the great vids. Can't wait to see your review of the "R" when it comes out.

[@savagegeese]

+Big Wave Glad it helped, does she like it?

[@socalpipedude]

She loves it! I went with black instead of the margarita green. She asked why it says "earth dreams" on the engine. I didn't have the heart to give her the entire F1 back story....

[@aspitola]

I've seen many many review, and this is indeed the best. In fact, it's so good that I bothered to write my comment for the first time. Great job bro

[@tohara8215]

Oh, geez, I really don't know how you handled all the power in the Civic after you had the Hellcat. That 1.5 and CVT combo is insane, let me tell you.

[@TheDustyaman]

Tim O'Hara You can definitely tell in his face that he wasnt impressed lol.

[@Daniel-tv9tb]

The civic will last 20 years... Good luck with a Chrysler made dodge. Lol

[@ldodom]

Turbowski polishing his tool to 80's bee-bop! LMAO x 10!

[@fhowland]

Most thorough review I’ve ever seen of the Civic!

[@fatboy19831]

Back in 1987 I looked underneath my 1986 Integra when the oil was being changed. It was a thing of beauty. Still today wonderful job on the underside of this car. this is one thing Honda does very well.

[@ATrain11809]

ROFLMAO @ Turbowski section. Handling that screw driver like a BOSS Turbowski! Great review as always!

[@Gazellegazellegazelle]

I love every aspect of their new designs!!! Its futuristic in the best ways oh man its glorious!

[@fraxonthefurry21]

the 1.5 is great and all but I like the base motor for simplicity.

[@erichaynes7502]

Savagegeese, I'm impressed that you are totally honest with the handling aspects of the civic. Trust me, you are one of the very few who drive the car and tell it like it truly is. Based on your review, it looks like the new Civic is a great car that probably needs some of the minor-medium flaws worked out. Honda has made such a major change to this car I'm definitely curious to see if they fix them in the next year or two. My take: If you're buying new just get the LX hatchback in Manual, buy and install your own 7 inch car stereo. This keeps the cost around 20K. I see no reason to pay more than that for these Civic's.

[@deathtollwrx]

Love your reviews, I just discovered you today watching the why I dumped a Mazda 3i review! Having the mechanic guy look at the bottom and comment is also really fun to watch.

[@hammer86_]

LOL my ribs hurt from that Turbowski intro.

[@Dowlphin]

Because your heart cannot hold all that love? 😆

[@cloudk2088]

Honestly this turbowski intro should be in all videos he's in

[@clairekennedy8767]

My friend recently bought a civic coupe turbo with manual in the electric green color and he loves it so far. The turbo kicks in at such a low RPM that there's no need to leave 6th gear on the highway to pass.

[@jaquatics]

Want to say thanks for your video. It really helped me decide on this car for my next new vehicle.

[@dragonsystems5973]

Absolutely fascinating.... I fell out of love with my 2017 Touring soooooo fast... I still have it... maybe it feels like too much of a "grown up" car for my 30 years.... so I mostly drive my 08 coupe

[@NewMatrix7]

another solid review savagegeese! thanks!

[@brussell328]

Turbowski's theme goes perfectly with his shop stance.

[@zollotech]

Is your oil light on?

[@savagegeese]

+zollotech no just the oil change reminder

[@kevinabraham2029]

was waiting for this episode- thank God it's here!

[@Master-of-None-88]

about damn time! great review as always :)

[@jasonyoung6420]

That Turbowski Time Transition.. freaking priceless

[@Amanda2o12]

I have the 2016 EX-T model in this color. This is the MOST accurate review. I've said 99% of the things he touched on.

[@geosh10]

Scott sure knows how to lube my chassis! He keeps my old girl running!

[@BATMAN_1]

Thank you for excellent review in-depth, I own Civic Touring 2018, no issues.

[@flivverj7934]

i never noticed the body gap until i owned one. the car is such a breath of fresh air you dont notice the body gap in the trunk

[@swaxtastic]

I've had a Civic for 2 years. No volume knob is no problem. The buttons on the steering wheel work fine. I like how uncluttered the center console is.

[@michaelnobles2643]

Loved the Turbowski intro, lol! I can’t even! Made my freaking day! 😛

[@Dowlphin]

Finally an interesting paint color! (Remember how no one wants to buy a Kawasaki because of that obnoxious green? ... Me neither.) 1:40 Green paint, orange peel. ... Magic! 😏 1:52 Rear design by ProLaps™. 4:-17 That's not quite neon green, but a relatively un-vivid version of light green. (Lime green is a legit description.) 6:53 I am still waiting for you to remove the floor paneling to see what's behind them. 11:20 I suspect they didn't put an engine cover on it because of heat trapping, considering it's a turbo with little space left in the bay and they watercooled the exhaust manifold. 17:28 I would never want the car to tuck at the steering wheel because it thinks I crossed the line. That's what shotgunning stepmothers do before they walk. I consider a driver's aid system not ready for the market if it sometimes screws up. 21:094 I find silver plastic giving a very cold vibe and totally screaming that it is cheap plastic. Yes, even what I see there. Not having that stuff would feel higher quality to me. (Dual color artificial leather interior is great, though.)

[@boozer74]

OMG!!! That Turbowskl intro was HILARIOUS!!!!

[@foehammerone]

Great review, glad to see you guys finally got a Honda to review! I picked up the 2016 Civic EXL sedan. It's a fantastic daily driver.

[@foehammerone]

I replaced my Firestone FT140 all seasons with BFGoodRich Ultra High Performance All Seasons (Comp2 AS), it makes a massive difference. Turn in and grip throughout is much better. Can't wait for the 2017 Si. Might have to trade it up

[@Michael_NV]

That a review! Very well gents.I commend you for your performance.

[@importcarenthusiast]

Go into the audio settings and turn volume gestures off. this turns off the "swipe" function on the steering wheel volume control, so you're not accidentally touching it all the time lol.

[@savagegeese]

+Import Car Enthusiast I cut that part out as its enabled by default.

[@stuffnthings4106]

holy hell, thank you for this comment! I didn't realize I could turn that off, it's incredibly annoying.

[@acoruna5421]

savagegeese, ohh so you cry about the volume control when you know you can disable the "swipe" function 🙄. I don't need a volume knob. You just like to complain about little things like those old men magazine car reviewers!

[@wenkunliu9984]

Hey man, I recently found out how to disable the touch sensitive volume slider on the steering wheel. I believe it's somewhere in the settings but unfortunately, I forget where exactly it is. That definitely saves my civic experience a lot.

[@JustinKelly]

Another great review!

[@TheDustyaman]

Justin Kelly agreed

[@leesonneville1817]

You would say that, your car is also neon green!

[@youknowimwhite]

how is this all the subscribers you have?

[@sebastianquilt]

Engaging review; I'm only 9:00 minutes in and subscribing. Nice work!

[@chenguo8019]

LOVE the new and improved Turbowski!

[@TheDustyaman]

Looked foward to this one. Alot of your points is the reason why i moved away from buying this.

[@xoclegin]

l have been waiting for a review of this car for a real long time. Thanks for taking your time to express your thoughts about the vehicle. ln the 2017 crv they finally put a volume knob. l cannot wait for your review of the new Mazda cx 5.

[@3xl382]

Excellent Review... I am now a loyal fan and I want to say that SavageGeese is such a breath of fresh air in the car review industry... I used to think that Doug Demuro was cool, but he's mediocre compared to you! Keep up the good work!

[@jfazzuoli3813]

In short, I went from a 9th gen (2014) Si to a 10th Gen "lowly" LX (manual trans) and feel like I stepped up in terms of overall performance. The 10th gen really is that good . The upcoming Si and Type R is going to be amazing.

[@savagegeese]

+J Fazzuoli The 9th gen is like a kmart car compared to 10th gen glad you made the switch.

[@miinyoo]

That's interesting to hear. I still cling to my 20 year old LS Teg that keeps on trucking totally stock. I am gentle to it but when I want 7k+ to 2nd or 4th gear muckracking around like an ass I can get it. This is 20 years however. I prefer primitive but if I can have more fun... Does Honda keep its acronym namesake with post modern Civics -- "Hold on, not done accelerating"? 90's NSX is still on the table though. It's such a dream to be in and drive. One day there will be a car to rule them all... mostly because you aren't driving it and instead programming parameters. A weird feeling to consider. At some point cars driven by the meat limbs of people will not be street legal.

[@MrKgomer28]

OH MY GAWD TURBOWSKI INTRO IS EVERYTHING!!!!!!

[@alexander1485]

i wonder how fast he was going 13:17.... surely he was going legal speeds :D

[@Adrian913af]

I was wondering why it was blurred. I guess that makes sense lol

[@zemarsafi7935]

The best civic for sure and one of the best coupes under 40k these days. I should've bought one but I went and got a cuv, FML

[@FreakMeat74]

LOVED the Turbowski intro, I would have subscribed just based off that if I wasn't already subscribed.

[@DearMajesty]

Maybe it's just me, but I'm sensing a more positive spin on things?

[@savagegeese]

+MotoBoy Maybe, but I think its more how message gets delivered. This is a very popular mainstream car, so I could probably make a standalone 15 minute video complaining about the CVT, understeer, infotainment, no more NA, but well that would end badly.

[@DearMajesty]

savagegeese Haha yup, just evaluating it for what it is. It's no sportscar, but they put all this effort into making it look aggressive/different and yet it lacks any sport and thus character imo...just another good commuter. The interior is genuinely nice though. The understeer you're talking about is something that's going to be present in all cars from the latest M3 to my Sonata. It's all in the name of safety...understeer is far safer than oversteer and it's just something that you have to accept nowadays.. Fuck that piece of shit CVT though. My Sonata comes with a fucking DCT (it's almost sporty!) and I bought that car for 17.5k before taxes. I know what you mean by the delayed throttle response....seems to be a common problem in many modern cars. Very annoying.

[@battosaijenkins946]

@savagegeese, and the worst part? The rear.. =(

[@KPopsicleSNSD]

This is so much better than the previous civics.

[@daddyeagen]

Turbowski's intro is a 10/10

[@10tenman10]

I think this car is designed a divorced woman mid-level government administrative clerk working at the IRS. Sort of sporty looking but reliable with a bit of flash.

[@HemiLyfestyle]

10tenman10 LMAO

[@beatsByZlaja]

and she stinks

[@deep.6228]

10tenman10 🤣🤣

[@Dowlphin]

IRS employees have to choose their cars based on how easily paint scratches can be fixed. 😄

[@Alexd3498]

you need to release all of your instrumentals for the reviews I'd buy that album any day

[@brandonjames1606]

PLEASE KEEP UP WITH THE TURBOWSKI INTRO MUSIC!!! It's fantastic

[@txmoney]

I've watched dozens of reviews of the 10th gen Civic. This is the best. When I bought my 2018 Civic EX-T, I was expecting the under steer. But, surprisingly I found the handling to be tight and responsive. Perhaps I drove at a fairly conservatively pace. As for the turbo lag, yes that was noticeable but expected with the CVT. For the money, the Civic with Turbo is nearly best in class if not best in class.

[@mrx9844]

txmoney honestly, I feel the same about my touring coupe. I enjoy it more than my V6 Altima coupe that I traded in.

[@10tenman10]

I tried to buy a Civic sedan with the tech package (for my sister) in May this year. The dealer would not drop the price below list! He suggested that I get the non tech package car. Bought a Camry instead (bigger more comfortable non CVT safer, albeit boring). The tech package on the Civic is fantastic.

[@Tripp55]

Love this color! If I got a Civic, it would HAVE to be this!

[@jwardTLS]

Honda definitely has a history of being more "Driver-centric" compared other economy cars in the class. I'm glad to see that remains true here from a handling standpoint. Also I think you make a good point focusing on the attention to detail and variety in the interior. It seems to be fluid without coming off as "too busy". Nooks and crannies too. My wife's Honda Pilot has the most functional space I've ever seen in a car. Honda does an incredibly good job with maximizing the usefulness of interior space.

[@wtDrake]

Thank you for being one of the few reviewers for admitting this design is way too over the top and tryhard

[@alexander1485]

rear end is terrible

[@omgyest2]

yeah the rear end is ugly, everything else is fine

[@DearMajesty]

yeah, it's too weird

[@CroutonsRawk]

im glad there's people that agree with me, this new civic is terrible and overdesigned

[@wtDrake]

***** What's your point? People bought the totally redesigned Corolla in droves and hardly anyone bought the all new Dodge Dart (which is now becoming defunct). Nobody is buying based on looks, rather past reliability reputation.

[@Libra8410]

😂 the Turbowski montage was great. Love him

[@argoneonoble]

My second vid with this guy. He seems like a slightly negative person; he always see in the negative in things. Real joy to be around.

[@savagegeese]

I talked about this in a video explaining the past two years of doing these reviews . cars are consumer products and to talk about them without addressing some of the negatives is dishonest I'm not making commercials or sales pitches to buy cars. There is more than enough of that out there.

[@JesusEsDios007]

keep doing what you do savage

[@Cervan]

the "simulated" shifting is two fold, its one to emulate a shift, obviously. and secondly it helps prevent wear on the belt/chain in the trans by closing the throttlebody and shifting the belt position while not under full load making it last longer.

[@JourneyDrummer1972]

We just bought a 2017 Civic Touring Sedan. Less than 11,000mi for 17K. Let me say this..UFB! The feel is automatically..Luxury Sport Car. I agree on some points..disable all vehicle controlled assists, they're obtrusive. Cruise control with Collision Warning at longest distance..picks up vehicles in opposite lane and auto slows vehicles "While Passing!" Unsafe. Disagree with interior media and driver control. This vehicle is 100% digital control from steering wheel, voice activation for calls and even texts! Audio controls again, while driving, very simple and 100% controllable on the wheel. Only downside.."No Mute in Drive-Thru's!" But with Bluetooth audio, pause and play easy tap when audio display on. Handling: First off, we're averaging 42.7mpg after 3 weeks and 2,000 miles added. When was the last time a tank of premium cost you less than $30? Drop the mic..

[@greggieo]

I just picked up a 2016 couple touring with only 17k km on it. I love it

[@shirakawanaoya]

OMG I LOLed so hard at that turbowsky intro. Man you made my day.

[@franciscocarrera6188]

Gotta love the speedo blurring.. 😂 nice review!

[@Dowlphin]

It's blurring because the car is approaching light speed.

[@playtimewithcl4431]

The turbowski intro was hilarious

[@eliotsalandybrown]

Excellent analysis and production

[@cranixten2620]

I love the intro for Turbowski

[@pchae1]

Such an honest, well-spoken review. Keep up the videos!

[@flytrapcan]

"Duals... that are hidden." What the fudge! Dual hidden exhaust on a 1.5 litre. I just don't get it.

[@BoissonMedia]

That montage, needs to happen every time!

[@stuna101a]

Almost $30K for a standard Civic....I thought I'd never see the day. For another $6-7K you can get the Type R and the super dope stylin that comes with it. Oh yea this is one of the best YT creators out there, quirks and features be damned.

[@LosEquis]

Overall a very fair and honest review! I own a 2016 Civic Sedan Touring and I think it's one of the best cars people can buy at this price. Hands down. With this being a complete re-design, they are leaving a really poorly made 9th generation Civic behind, so a hic-up or two with flaws in the info-taiment and driver assist features were kind of expected. Considering these features are unsurpassed in this 10th gen Civic. I do disagree with your opinions on this vehicles CVT. It's the best on the market from what I've gathered, but to each their own, right? Teh car gets off the line pretty quick and passing people and sustaining power on the road is impressive... And people complaining about the ass end of this car, consider this... Most cars on the road are basic as f and A LOT of car-makers copy each other's design. We all know this. But I would rather think of this design as a big middle finger to car designers who are lacking in the originality department.

[@InstinctiveFirearmReviews]

Carlos Equis Well said, love my 16 Civic LX 2.0 manual

[@SplashyLaflare]

Carlos Equis safe to say you'd recommend the 16 over this one?

[@ryanlittleton5615]

Carlos Equis How's it holding up?

[@lastpally]

Ryan Littleton well I have a 2017 Coupe for close to 2 years. Not a issue except from the shit tires. No stupid check engine light or warning lights. Been a excellent car.

[@ryanlittleton5615]

@@lastpally That's good to hear.

[@thebritish910]

excellent review; appreciate the detailed breakdown. Thank you my good man!