I don’t understand why Tesla does not buy a company like Zero and rebrand it Tesla Zero and produce superior electric motors and battery packs for their motorcycles and just sell and distribute from the same web site and distribution centers that they use for their cars. They could do the same thing with Electric Bicycles.
@AV8R_15 жыл бұрын
Tesla is who they are because of innovation, not rebranding. I’ll take real innovation.
@cooliipie5 жыл бұрын
They're too busy already
@iakona235 жыл бұрын
@@AV8R_1 It is innovation to put more resources into the Zero team and to give them access to superior electric motors and battery packs from Tesla and to give them an entirely new distribution channel to sell the Zero motorcycle products. Besides, when Tesla acquires existing companies like Solar City and Maxwell Technology, they do so to speed up innovation, not merely to add the Tela name to it.
@TatersFPV5 жыл бұрын
@@cooliipie Your so right. Elon has his hands full right now with projects
@pastorgoof5 жыл бұрын
Elon doesn't like a motorcycle he or someone he knows got hurt real bad on a motorcycles and if tesla was going to make a motorcycles it would be 10 time better then this and it would cheaper
@TheCrazyFinn5 жыл бұрын
Zero FXS given.
@loudermusic5 жыл бұрын
thank you
@Erin-Thor5 жыл бұрын
Leandro E. Louder - I don’t think TheCrazyFinn meant that as a compliment. 🤣
@TheCrazyFinn5 жыл бұрын
@@Erin-Thor I like the bike, didn't mean the quip as a compliment or a diss, just an observation. ;)
@denniscoles94615 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@noybiznatch5 жыл бұрын
The hero we need, but not the hero we deserve
@jltrack5 жыл бұрын
Rationalizing $8,500+ for an electric motorcycle that has less than 100mile range is quite stupid. Do I want one, hell yeah, but at that price, I can get a lot of motorcycle.
@wistfulherbz5 жыл бұрын
We're still somewhat in the early adoption phase, give it 6 years and the price will come way down.
@emmcey5 жыл бұрын
@@wistfulherbz no it won’t, have electric cars come down? the problem all bikes both electric and ice have gotten really expensive.
@nimblybimbly40025 жыл бұрын
@@emmcey To answer your question: Yes, electric cars have come down. In 2014 a 200 mile EV cost $70k. Now they cost $40k.
@wistfulherbz5 жыл бұрын
@@emmcey They have come down in price a little bit, but we're still in the early adoption phase and it still like 6 years off until we see any real drop in price. It's like when HD TVs first came out and it took them years to drop in price, but now you can get a boss TV on the cheap. Also with the upcoming breakthroughs in Battery tech(Solid State Batteries) and the shift away from Lithium, that will defiantly start to drop prices on electric vehicles.
@jamescarlin5695 жыл бұрын
Agreed..
@Xyrer4 жыл бұрын
I will have an ACTUAL affordable electric bike when I'm 80 at this pace
@user-md3is4dq2d4 жыл бұрын
10 years tops.
@jayski23784 жыл бұрын
Substitute price for pace and thats where I'm at
@captainglitterfingers62134 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for something that is pretty fast and way cheaper, you should check out the Sur-Ron X ebike.
@quidestnunc92384 жыл бұрын
I am 76 and am expecting affordable (as in Benelli by way of Chinese backing). Also, look for Polaris to purchase Zero Moto.
@quidestnunc92384 жыл бұрын
@@captainglitterfingers6213 And the identical but more expensive Segway E-bike, owned by the same Chinese company and re-branded. )(Eric of Luna Cycles is a hoot !)
@wooferjr1695 жыл бұрын
If it cost 5k I would consider buying it. Especially since it will be a perfect starter bike, but I just don't have the budget to drop $8k on a toy. A used cbr300 will do just fine with me.
@ninjaguysith5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, in time, the price will come down as more electric bikes get made.
@leoanderberg35535 жыл бұрын
WooferJr are you gay?
@doices2nd5 жыл бұрын
I think they've been out for at least 5 years now so there should be some used one's that is more affordable.
@cooliipie5 жыл бұрын
Same. So close
@wed3k5 жыл бұрын
Make more money
@tangocharlie92915 жыл бұрын
A couple clothespins and playing cards, and you’ve got yourself a badass sounding machine.
@Shitbird32495 жыл бұрын
Tango Charlie Yessir my double spade ♠️ sure rips.
@chuckhembree61015 жыл бұрын
Tango Charlie , thanks for bring back some pleasing youthful thoughts with the playing card idea. 😜
@cyborgbadger10155 жыл бұрын
I used a Flora margarine lid, best sound ever.
@christopherhuggins32125 жыл бұрын
I preferred a can on the tire
@denniscoles94615 жыл бұрын
Old school
@ToumalRakesh5 жыл бұрын
That intro shot was just perfect.
@Electrek5 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it, I woke up at 4AM to get that shot!
@dtbasd55145 жыл бұрын
Good Video
@jspr2k55 жыл бұрын
Omg a Toumal
@carlsitler90715 жыл бұрын
My new Ninja 400 was $3150. That is affordable.
@rightwingsafetysquad98725 жыл бұрын
@Universal Sticker is $4,250 for brand new with ABS. Buy an overstock unit from the previous model year without ABS and it comes down.
@cinilaknedalm5 жыл бұрын
Any idea how much is the maintenance and fuel over a period of 5 years? Genuinely interested.
@tiagodumont44225 жыл бұрын
@@cinilaknedalm That really depends on how many millage you put in during those years.
@daedalusknives5 жыл бұрын
New tech vs old tech. There isn't anything innovate or new about the 400 which is produced by a Motorsport giant. Zero is new to the game in comparison to red, green and blue. With zero you're still paying for R&D on new tech, R&D for the rainbow teams has been covered for 20 years and they're just taking in profit. The people that buy Zeros bikes now will be paving the way for the lower cost "ninja 400" model that comes out years from now.
@stevenhorsefield29095 жыл бұрын
Ninja 400 is a joke... I would be bored on that bike in under a minute.
@Campbellteaching5 жыл бұрын
Good to see the pillion footpads on the lower shining arm, gives passengers some leg room.
@curtmcd5 жыл бұрын
I've ridden an FX every day for nearly 3 years now. I can't stand to ride my other ICE bikes, even my formerly prized 500 EXC. This is not for weekend joyrides or commutes over 10-15 miles. It's a utilitarian daily driver that turns the most mundane errands into huge fun.
@flowmastaflam5 жыл бұрын
Do you feel that there is an increased danger due to being quiet?
@curtmcd5 жыл бұрын
@@flowmastaflam I consider it a bike for more advanced riders because you're like a stealth ninja, silently appearing and disappearing. You bother nobody, whether you're parking in the middle of a crowd or arriving home at 2am. But one must ride accordingly, as if completely invisible. Arguably one should ride a deafening Harley the same way, so I take the stealth as mostly upside. Ah, the stuff one can get away with!
@kugangles98605 жыл бұрын
It sounds like a fun bike but most people don't have or want to spend 8-10K on just a low mileage commuter toy.
@andreykostikov82305 жыл бұрын
@@kugangles9860 Low milege is not a problem until it covers your every day ride
@tylerandleahcanadian38885 жыл бұрын
@@kugangles9860 check out the bikes on my channel they are 4000 cad and 2500 cad and electric
@SudeepC19735 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful sounding motor. Reminds me of a jet engine idling before take off. Real good job with the mic
@broddr5 жыл бұрын
And it makes you wonder why the Harley Davidson LiveWire sounds like ice in a blender.
@trendyniro5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the time spent on producing this video. High quality I say!
@norsefalconer5 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on an e-bike with a swappable battery pack. If manufacturers standardized a system, then there could be battery exchange "stations" like the ones for propane tanks.
@rodrick7225 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure this is the only model from zero that has a swappable battery! I only bought one a couple years ago and thought I read that on their site.
@norsefalconer5 жыл бұрын
@@rodrick722 Thanks for the reply. I know of a couple of bike models with swappable batteries. I guess what I really meant was e-bike companies establishing an industry standard for swappable batteries. Enjoy your bike!
@junyong125 жыл бұрын
gogoro in Taiwan have a system like that
@norsefalconer5 жыл бұрын
@@junyong12 That's cool! Thanks.
@RaghunandanReddyC5 жыл бұрын
Check out Ultraviolette f77. Its not available to buy yet. But looks very promising and much cheaper.
@abbaby5555 жыл бұрын
This would be great for park rangers, they can roll up on vandal's
@ShadowRaptor85 жыл бұрын
You should watch this then; a police department in CA has switched to EV bikes kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGrSiIODm7lghqc
@maybeso15475 жыл бұрын
And Game Wardens.
@ShadowRaptor85 жыл бұрын
@#1 TRACKRECORD what-a-JOKE The EV bikes they got as a fleet purchase are cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, and cheaper to run than their Harleys, and have gotten great praise from their community. Would you rather their taxpayers pay more for less?
@kennethblocher61105 жыл бұрын
...or Dregs and Archon Priests, especially Randall the Vandal. (Destiny things)
@markfox15455 жыл бұрын
abbaby555 - one vandal, two vandals. One vandal's hammer, two vandals' hammers. See how apostrophes work now?
@fringestream9905 жыл бұрын
Next 10 years we’ll see more development and better prices
@ornn61774 жыл бұрын
3000usd for a bike of the same caliber called "super soco" here in australia this thing in the video is close to 12k aud and thats for stock
@fringestream9904 жыл бұрын
@@ornn6177 wow I looked it up, that thing is pretty 😍
@someguy50353 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. All the big makers could make this bike for $5-7K. But they aren't...because they are still trying to figure out how to make money instead of just giving people what they want.
@user-uz4gh7sm9l5 жыл бұрын
Revolt intellicorp has launched electric bikes in India. The base model RV300 is priced at $1553, and the amount is to be deposited in 37 installments of around $42 each. Just pay $42 and take your bike, no hidden costs and nothing. The bike can run approx 156km in full charge in economy mode (speed restricted to 45km/hr), and 80km in Nitro mode (speed locked to 85km/hr). Battery takes just 4.5hrs to charge from 0 to 100%. Even comes with a speaker which can produce 3 types of different superb bike sounds. The best thing is, they're providing ZERO cost of running for 3 years, anything from tyre replacement to battery replacement will be done free cost. And there is also a feature of battery swapping, where the user can simply swap the battery from the nearest Revolt bike store, while on ride, when he is unable to charge the battery. That too at zero price. I wish brands could enter the market with same strategy, so that more people could afford it and our environment could be saved.
@maddiel68975 жыл бұрын
Is the battery of the india brand better than zero?
@user-uz4gh7sm9l5 жыл бұрын
@@maddiel6897 I think, both the brands must be having Chinese batteries. Though the Indian brand is also providing 8 years battery warranty.
@maddiel68975 жыл бұрын
@@user-uz4gh7sm9l hope the batteries live out the 8yrs warranty coz some people are hardcore bikers and longrides(which fuel based bikes takes the throne) are really awesome.
@user-uz4gh7sm9l5 жыл бұрын
@@maddiel6897 well, 8 years is a long period. If it fails during that time or malfunctions, the company will be providing free replacement. So, it's not something to worry about.
@maddiel68975 жыл бұрын
@@user-uz4gh7sm9l are they planning to expand on neighboring countries?
@MysticNessly5 жыл бұрын
that's badass. I love how you showed you can ride it on the trails. that opens up a lot of possibilities
@thomashughes_teh5 жыл бұрын
He didn't see the pedestrians only sign on the fence post at the start of that trail. I don't know of any trail anywhere that has information panels that invite pedestrians to crowd around and read that also allow motor vehicles. It looks like even bicycles are not allowed there. If you are going to ride a motorcycle you need situational awareness. Ride safe. Ride courteous.
@stablestoic14915 жыл бұрын
When graphene batteries go mainstream and replace these lithium ions, itll be a whole new game. That's when I buy. For now, I save.
@Shun4345 жыл бұрын
True that
@machrider23335 жыл бұрын
google John Goodenough and solid state battery
@alleyway4 жыл бұрын
doesn't scale to production level
@superwilcox90264 жыл бұрын
Electric motor good. Batteries no such much. Gas still produces much more energy per unit. 15 times as much or so.
@brainmind40704 жыл бұрын
SSFTW
@usual.5 жыл бұрын
Simple and direct to the point review. I have never seen a better review for any vehicle.
@Mike-In-O-Town4 жыл бұрын
Dang I love this thing! Right up until the price tag. Get this down into the $4500/$5000 range, give me another 25 or so miles of range, and it would sell like hotcakes. I ride a Suzuki DRZ-400SM some of the time (terrific bike), and it has similar handling dynamics and good fuel economy, but I picked it up pre-owned for ~$4000. I love the idea of an electric bike to replace the DRZ, but at current pricing, I just don't have the coin to make that jump.
@jpslaym09362 жыл бұрын
With tax rebate in federal and CA, price is down to 7000 new
@user-qr6zh9ev8k2 жыл бұрын
Check out the kolter
@nick_john5 жыл бұрын
As much as I love the idea of this bike, I just can't bring myself to ride on the road. I ride MTB bikes, strictly off-road (I know 5 people who have been hit by cars on bicycles, one dead). If I were a road rider, I'd certainly buy one.
@Ariel475 жыл бұрын
I want to get into a bike but I'm in the same boat as you, so many distracted drivers and no respect for motorcycles at least in South Florida, guess I'll stick with MTB.
@merryequipment5 жыл бұрын
ZERO makes a sweet product. I’d buy one in a heartbeat if my moto season were longer and the price came down quite a bit. In ten years these EVs will be cheap and highly refined.
@aaronholiday38015 жыл бұрын
Everything that was said makes me not want to buy this. 60mile range, 9 hour charge time, 85 mph top speed. Smh
@MatthewN8OHU5 жыл бұрын
Like he said, it's not for everyone. As nice as it is, I'm not keen on riding one at night, which is when 50% of my commute to/from work is.
@aaronholiday38015 жыл бұрын
@@MatthewN8OHU you're right. It's for commuters only. Not for us that actually enjoy riding.
@MatthewN8OHU5 жыл бұрын
@@aaronholiday3801 Most EV enthusiasts won't acknowledge that we exist, even when we point out how limited range is on most EVs. They seem to think that their concept of normal use is the only thing that should drive the market.
@DeiHarper93615 жыл бұрын
The top speed isn't bad for commuting back & forth but the 60 mile range....nah. I guess you could charge it while you were at work since most shifts are between 5-12 hours.
@Mason-is4mr5 жыл бұрын
Aaron Holiday I hope you’re being sarcastic lol if you need to drive over 60 miles a day to enjoy riding, I’m sorry.
@lunamaria10485 жыл бұрын
I just got my bike license because my husband really wants me to ride with him.. I told him I want an electric bike.. This seems perfect!.. I want fun but not crazy.. Excellent review!
@ravirajyaguru59055 жыл бұрын
Lunamaria Go for KTM duke 390 or 790 if you want real fun.
@Tb0n35 жыл бұрын
@@ravirajyaguru5905 Or a 250cc for $250 for just as much fun.
@stevefisher25535 жыл бұрын
Go for it. No shifting! Be careful out there.
@lunamaria10485 жыл бұрын
Yeay i don't need a big engine.. I actually just bought a Kawasaki Versys x300 2 days ago and it is absolutely amazing and 300cc is more than enough fun for me lol
@sandydennylives13925 жыл бұрын
@@ravirajyaguru5905 This is faster to 70 than a 790.
@bgjr23045 жыл бұрын
is there a VERY LOUD horn? You certainly would want to be heard when riding public roads and highways.
@MrUnder243 жыл бұрын
You don't need a very loud horn... You just need a horn loud enough to be heard. With electric vehicles we can get rid of or at least reduce noise pollution.. We don't need to maintain or increase it for everyone unfortunate enough to live near busy roads.
@bgjr23043 жыл бұрын
@@MrUnder24 I disagree. If you're already driving electric, you've reduced your noise levels. Would you say the same about your headlamp? 'You don't need it to be very bright because of light pollution'? A very loud horn is a safety feature to protect you from people in their vehicles/semi trucks who often have windshields up, road & engine noise and music playing. You're flesh and bones on 2 wheels, moving fast and silently.. be heard, be seen 📯
@KTMcaptain5 жыл бұрын
Call me when it has 100mph, 100 miles of freeway range at 80mph, 60 HP (torque is already excellent), and weights in at 250 lbs or less. The 250lbs model has 27hp and the 290lbs model has 46. Honestly, pretty impressive already. But I'm going to wait for the next iteration that is just that much better.
@thunderofgr5 жыл бұрын
The horsepower is essentially meaningless here since the torque is so high. Every Zero is ridiculously fast off the line, and they all have plenty of power left even at high speeds.
@KTMcaptain5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Storms you have that backwards. Torque is meaningless. Torque is a static force devoid of time. Written as foot pounds. HP is a measure of work. Written as foot pounds per second. More torque means more HP at a lower rpm. hence the quick off the line acceleration. Once the engine is wound up it has little power.
@ritwikreddy56705 жыл бұрын
@@KTMcaptain yes, but I would prefer torque over hp at any time as I don't cross 100mph. So anything over a 50 hp is useless. But if you increase torque, hp also increases GENERALLY. Electric motors provide high torque without high hp, perfect for me. But I prefer gears.
@KTMcaptain5 жыл бұрын
@@ritwikreddy5670 I don't think you understand the dichotomy of torque and horsepower. Horsepower is a measure of work. It is how much weight you can move in a given period of time. Torque doesn't describe how long it took to build up the force. It could take 10 years or 10 seconds to build 1,000,000 ft lbs. One has 0.00004 HP, and the other has 1,142 HP. So you can take a long stick and generate more torque than a semi-tractor engine, yet cannot move the load anywhere near as fast. 80 ft lbs at 1000 rpm is only 15HP. You need 3,000 rpm in order to make 46 hp. ((46/80)*5252 algebraically change rpm to X and rewrite HP=(RPM*TQ)/5252 in order to find what rpm it takes to make 46HP with 80ft lbs). So when you look at road speed vs engine/motor speed, you'd need to be doing about 51mph in order to make the 46hp ((85/5000)*3000=51). But, the motor makes 46hp at 4,300 rpm per Zero's website, which means you don't have full power until 72.5mph ((85/5000)*4300). Furthermore, guestimating utilizing my statistical software to create interpolated data, the motor makes 68 ft lbs of torque at 2,500 rpm which is 32hp at 42mph. (At 85 mph, 124.7 feet per second, with a tire circumference of 6.68 feet, the wheel must rotate 18.7 times per second or 84 revolutions per second of the motor considering the gear reduction. That is 5000 rpm @ 85mph) You're also missing a vastly important fact. Gearing can increase or decrease the torque at the wheel. An electric single speed bike is stuck in a high gear ratio. Compared to my previous 55hp 35 ft lbs bike, First gear is 2.43:1 gear ratio and 3.7:1 FD (9.03:1 total reduction). Zero FX is a 4.5:1 reduction. So 80 ft lbs in at 4.5:1 yields 360 ft lbs while a 35 ft lbs engine with a lower gear reduction generates 316 ft lbs. So a 129% torque advantage is reduced to 14%. Ultimately you want good torque, as it yields more HP at a lower RPM and generally reflects a higher average (not peak) HP across gear ratios. But what matters is your average HP, as Horsepower is 550 pounds moved a foot every second. It is torque within a defined interval.
@martinobrien41644 жыл бұрын
@@KTMcaptain 👍. Everyone else - get your coat!
@paulipock32415 жыл бұрын
I would consider this with a fast charging capacity and 200 miles on that charge.
@dirkdiggler77274 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX2UeY1onNZnr6M Dyson electric superbike. 200 mile range and charges in a half hour. Oh yea 200hp and 200mph!
@19hundoc475 жыл бұрын
Some of us like to ride motorcycles because we enjoy motorcycles. Not to commute in ECO mode. You can't cruise around for long on a nice Friday evening on 60-90 miles of range.
@N3m3sls5 жыл бұрын
8k for a reasonable priced motorcycle..... get out of here.
@gurutrips94405 жыл бұрын
8k ?!?!?!
@Erin-Thor5 жыл бұрын
Skrill - SWEET looking bike, cool concept. I would LOVE one, $8k is high, true, but for me it’s not a deal breaker. What is a dealbreaker are No larger battery options to increase the range and No ability to swap out the batteries, so no way to charge one or two others while you play, then return to base to swap batteries and repeat. This is a ride 40 miles and... and... and... well that’s it.
@TRICHOMETRIST5 жыл бұрын
The batteries have to be replaced if they dont explode first!
@Bryanbkk5 жыл бұрын
Come back and make a video when this bike is $2k.
@tedsell14555 жыл бұрын
But you buy NO GAS. ⛽ !
@garykennedy48565 жыл бұрын
Congrats, that review is one of if not the best reviews I have seen. Very informative and easy to follow.
@HolmesHobbies5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review sir! I've been wanting a Zero for a while , have a few Sur Rons at the moment because the lower price point was easier to save for.
@kirh38575 жыл бұрын
I've been riding electric bikes for 6 years in Shanghai. you can get a 60v 1200W motor bike/scooter for 1800 CNY. That's 250 USD. These can go up to 55 km/h stock, without any motor or controller upgrades, but in the city, even when you're racing past the cars and traffic, you'd only average around 35-40km/h. Now, you can get much faster ones with 3-5k watt motors, and 144v batteries. These will go over 120km/h. Those prices will be 7k CNY+ which is only $976. Finally, they have big bikes/scooters that will have a range of 200-300 km, depending on how you ride, and these will colst 25k CNY+, but they require special chargers, whereas the former ones i mentioned could just be plugged into any outlet. I wonder why this FXS costs so much, when you can literally get like 8 bikes which are just as fast for that price
@dannyboots2 жыл бұрын
How's it do riding in the rain or snow?
@jigsaw33345 жыл бұрын
Sweet. Gimme a sec to climb off my golden throne and I'll take 2 of em...
@projectalucard24834 жыл бұрын
Poor thing .. die 😻
@chriss17725 жыл бұрын
I also was looking into getting a bike like this for work and city jumping. The price ran me off. I bought a brand new Enduro for $1500 and it gets around 110 miles with 1.3 gallons of fuel. I like knowing that all my bike needs is gas and it starts every time. No need to charge it for 9 hours. Once prices come down on e-bikes $5000 for brand new is ok. Then I will get one. But $8k for a small bike that I can't forget to plug in is very expensive. And repair cost.... Gas powered 250cc are very cheap. How much is a battery or even the controller ?
@emmcey5 жыл бұрын
what enduro did you buy for $1500 new? must be some chinese POS
@ron1martens5 жыл бұрын
You missed out in listening to the detail. You can drop down the charge using auxiliary charger.
@Erin-Thor5 жыл бұрын
Chris S - Clearly you did not buy a Suzuki, which does NOT start every time. 🤬
@austincolt19555 жыл бұрын
$1,500 sounds like a Chinese enduro I do not think any of them go anywhere near 85 mph I am looking at the Tao Tao or Hawk
@Red13m1k35 жыл бұрын
How loud is the horn? I've gotta feeling I'd be using it often cuz the other drivers won't hear me coming.... 👍😎🏍🏍
@will4may1754 жыл бұрын
60miles is nothing to a biker, it's fine for commuting, but bikers like to go for ride-outs or coastal/mountain runs, especially here in Europe with the mountain roads, UK has some great twisty roads (much to the delight of traffic cops looking to catch a speedy biker having too much fun) and you can easily do 100-200miles on a ride, that for me along with the price is what will stop me having an E-bike until range/price is much better, if the range was double then the price would be doable, don't want to have to plan a whole day around a trip having to stop each way to charge for whatever amount of time to get there/home.
@Mick_Pickle5 жыл бұрын
4:00....I kept waiting for it to shift gears.
@robbyclark69154 жыл бұрын
The outrageous price points for these electric bikes and motorcycles are a very limiting factor when trying to decide what to purchase! The price coupled with the limited range makes good old gas powered transportation look better and better. I love how quiet and clean my ebike is but to step up to a motorcycle is out of the question at these prices! Looks like I’ll be going with a 250cc for probably half the price.
@BMcGhee-t5v5 жыл бұрын
It's just not there yet. A ninja 300 will provide tons of fun and performance at around $2000 for a nice 2017 used one. 80mpg and cruises at 65 no problem. 8500 for a 100 mile range is a no-go.
@Erin-Thor5 жыл бұрын
Mathematically Impossible - Ahhhhhhh, you might want to watch again. 100 miles if you nurse it at low speed, which means 50 miles... maybe. Highway speed range is ONLY 40 miles, or 20 miles round trip if you want to sleep in your own bed.
@ftnppg12725 жыл бұрын
And this used is probably 5500. They should have made the battery removable so you can buy 2 extras and put them on a rear mounted rack or keep them at work and interchange back and forth.
@readyplayer25 жыл бұрын
There seem to be a lot of people unhappy with the price point of this bike. It's definitely expensive, but I'm still intrigued (and I've been riding street motorcycles for almost 25 years, and dirt bikes before that). I mostly use my current motorcycle to commute around 9 miles each way, with some errand running on evenings and weekends. The range this bike offers easily accomplishes that. Besides the limited range, there are a lot of positives. Instant torque, no point emissions, no stopping and removing gloves and fishing out wallet at gas stations, and very little maintenance other than replacing consumables (tires, brake pads, brake fluid, etc.). No valves to adjust, no chain or splines (shaft-drive) to lube, no clutch to adjust (at lever or transmission) or clutch cable to replace, no transmission problems (this is direct drive with a carbon fiber belt), no oil (engine or gear) to replace, no spark plugs, no engine gaskets, the list goes on. I don't see the lack of noise as a negative; I have never been a believer in "loud pipes save lives", and always ride like I'm invisible. I would love to see more info about Zero's reliability if any reading this are actual Zero owners -- how do the electronics hold up over time? Expected lifetime of the battery pack, especially if the motorcycle is stored in a non-climate controlled garage? What is the service schedule and have you had an unexpected problems?
@ChaosBW5 жыл бұрын
"Affordable" is a word that gets thrown around too much. I'd just like to point out you could buy a ninja 250 for around $1500 to $2000 and it will take you way further than an electric whilst carrying a passenger or cargo. 150kph - 170kph top speed? (custom mufflers/air filters/weight of rider/etc) $15 for a full tank of gas Changing oil, clean + lube chain and air filter takes about 30 minutes Not difficult or expensive
@supersnot45 жыл бұрын
You'll change your mind if you ever ride a Zero. I did.
@magnusrittersen47025 жыл бұрын
We’re can you buy a NEW Ninja 250 for $2000?
@ChaosBW5 жыл бұрын
@@magnusrittersen4702 they don't make ninja 250 anymore genius
@magnusrittersen47025 жыл бұрын
According to Kawasaki’s website they make a 2019 ninja 250. Are you American? That would explain your response.
@someguy50353 жыл бұрын
The problem is, companies are still hoping to cash in on big margins instead of making bikes people want. Let's be honest. As simple as this bike is, it should cost $5K-$7K at most...and the big makers easily could do this if they wanted.
@yosharian5 жыл бұрын
You didn't even touch on the cost of charging vs standard petrol bikes. Is it more economical?
@doices2nd5 жыл бұрын
It's like a few dollars to fully charge the bike. I personally wouldn't buy a motorcycle that costs more than 10 grand.
@dangerousdoggo54655 жыл бұрын
@@doices2nd if you have it for at least a year, you will save a lot of money. not as much as the cost difference of gas and this, but still.
@GMoney-B2 жыл бұрын
Would be great and cool if the battery slid out and had wheels and a suitcase handle on it. That way you could commute to work, take it with you and charge it at work. Also good for security reasons because they wouldn’t be able to run it and may deter from not having any gas engine or battery.
@blipco55 жыл бұрын
Good review. The price is getting there now we need the range.
@pestoravioli-59035 жыл бұрын
fr fam
@andykerr38033 ай бұрын
Nice review, even years later in 2024. I just bought a 2009 prototype (voided) of the Zero. The frame/swingarm is the as this FX and others. With a spoked set of wheels and way less accessorizing it weighs around 150 without the battery. A lot of competition now in this class from Ducati, Can Am and others. The big Zeros are going after HD's Livewire bikes. When the dust settles in a few years there should be some exceptional machines at good prices. Thanks for the upbeat video 👍 It aged well 😊
@colechristiansen98205 жыл бұрын
how did you film the riding portion? i see no camera stick
@Sror3d5 жыл бұрын
Cole Christiansen 3:37-3:38 you can see the stick in the shadow on the floor on the right side. You can also see it in other places in the video u just have to look harder
@yhiissuchbs5 жыл бұрын
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@mistakesweremade5 жыл бұрын
How is this a commutter? 40 miles highway use and 9 hours to fully charge? For $10K? Just buy a motorcycle.
@amitsaxenaofficialvlogs5 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, can you cover maintenance part as well in upcoming videos and battery replacement cost and kms
@austina41895 жыл бұрын
They will not know what some of the "important" maintenance items mean. Most of us zero owners don't know what they mean either😂
@amitsaxenaofficialvlogs5 жыл бұрын
@@austina4189 😂
@magnusrittersen47025 жыл бұрын
I did a full maintenance package on my FX at 2000km. I washed it, set my iPhone to the Zero app and pressed update. 30 minutes later I came back and all the maintenance was done.
@amitsaxenaofficialvlogs5 жыл бұрын
@@magnusrittersen4702 ha ha very nice
@DarkIzo5 жыл бұрын
i recommend watching fortnines video on the zero, there is a part covering maintenance compared to classic bikes
@robinmassey58223 жыл бұрын
Question; is there any engine-brake? Or does it just keep rolling?
@toben425 жыл бұрын
Won't be funny when you head off to work in the morning and find that someone unplugged it.
@ImplantedMemories4 жыл бұрын
headlight at the front is ugly. Why no LED ?
@orientalelixir13515 жыл бұрын
Dude, what camera setup are you using for the tracking shots of the bike? So cool!
@jordanhart94415 жыл бұрын
Yes Micah tell us
@bossingtravels5 жыл бұрын
360 camera
@PatrickKajirian5 жыл бұрын
That would be Insta360's One X spherical camera.
@jordanhart94415 жыл бұрын
@@PatrickKajirian how is it mounted? And do you have to manually edit out the mount in post or can you select an angle of the footage so that you don't see it?
@PatrickKajirian5 жыл бұрын
@@jordanhart9441 The Insta360 One X comes with a telescopic selfie stick that is compatible with universal mounting equipment. The camera's software edits itself out of pictures and videos to give an omniscient 3rd-person perspective.
@MatthewN8OHU5 жыл бұрын
Micah, don't let the naysayers get you down. It's a good bike for those who don't need greater range than what it provides.
@ourstate1005 жыл бұрын
plan on getting a salvaged FX/FXS and putting the powertrain in a honda ATV I think it would be amazing.
@broddr5 жыл бұрын
Interesting idea. Now you have thinking about using a FX/FXS power train in my riding mower.
@CaptApril1233 жыл бұрын
Great review, that's a really nice e-motorcycle. My only problem with it would be charging time. When i was in my 20's I rode motorcycles all the time, on Saturdays we'd meet up, go for rides out to coffee shops then tear around having fun all evening, finish up back at the coffee shop. This can't do that, once my charge is done I have to wait 8hrs to recharge. If (and when) they can get the charging time down to ICE levels it will be great, 10 or 20 minute charge times would change everything.
@Docdug5 жыл бұрын
Great review - how’d you shoot this? Please update in the description the gear used. Cheers Doc
@michaelclary22674 жыл бұрын
Its criminal how much they charge for a an extremely limited emotorcycle. You could buy a Harley or for that much. $8000-$10000 is not chump change and the re sale value on an e bike or an e motorcycle is not good!! (They don't tell you that when u buy one.) Ur paying thousands to only be limited to 60-100 mi. Then wait 9 hrs to ride again? Here's some advice.....Buy a REAL motorcycle! Those e motorbikes are NOT worth the money. Plus fuel for a motorcycle is cheap and they get so much better gas mileage than a car why would u need an e-motorcycle? Unless u have money to piss away. Now an e bike I can see why u would get one..u dont have to register or get insurance..u can ride 25 to 45 mi per charge use bike lanes,sidewalks,etc. But they are waaaaay more affordable. $1000-$2000 is much better than 8000-$10000. I'd take one if someone gave it to me but if im paying that much..Im buying a REAL motorcycle. Im positive it will be the smarter and more reliable decision down in the long run.
@TheRealKalEll5 жыл бұрын
( Edted ) Sorry for the confusion... firstly, Awesome video!! Thanx4sharing!! (@Steve: on average the public would like 2 see electric only, at a cost of $10,000/vehicle, milage of at least 200 miles per charge. (Weekend country cruising, cottage, camping, etc) Otherwise they stick with what they know: gas. I will look for the survey where I got this from and post the link)
@blazbohinc49645 жыл бұрын
thank you
@egovenari1325 жыл бұрын
Looking forward for possible update for 2020 on the FXS. Maybe slighty bigger battery, LED headlight and tft screen?
@janwalor7365 жыл бұрын
As much as I love the idea of an electric enduro, gasoline remains much more transportable. Another issue is the silence. Riding in the city, I'm surrounded by distracted drivers who wouldn't know I was there if they didn't hear me. The killer is price. You could ride a descent bike for a lot of years before you reached $8000
@calmingsounds9243 жыл бұрын
Great review on this bike, I like it because he showed you what the bike SOUNDS like.
@lestercampos26175 жыл бұрын
Im down for all eco friendly vehicles but a clutchless bike is way to weird for someone that has ridden a regular bike most of their lifes.
@Zedexization5 жыл бұрын
LesterXDoesPlays ever rode a scooter? Basically the same thing except its in a different shape. Weird sure, hard? Not at all.
@Erin-Thor5 жыл бұрын
LesterXDoesPlays - You would adapt as easily as you would going back and forth between a manual shift car and an automatic transmission.
@rob214 жыл бұрын
A clutch is a crutch though. It only existed to compensate for the inefficiencies of a combustion engine. I welcome our new electric overlords!
@angelponce89053 жыл бұрын
a replacement battery is 3 thousand 55+will =40miles .9 hours to charge and to rapid charge you need to buy 2 more chargers at 600 plus installation
@natee21694 жыл бұрын
Imagine you walking your dog and some dudes going 50mph past you in the trail 😂😂
@bootslangley48753 жыл бұрын
Hi Micah, great video as usual. Thanks for all your help with the Vruxend Kits. Ride safe and have fun. cheers Boots Langley La Mesa, Ca
@stevencorbo12205 жыл бұрын
You say that like it's cheap and it doesn't cost them half that to build it. It shouldn't be more than $5000
@skiwithgabe5 жыл бұрын
It's not more than $5000 once you take into consideration savings and incentives... It's actually close to $0
@MrDelpioro3 жыл бұрын
I love it, only issue I have with it ( I tried a similar bike once) is nobody knows I am coming round the corner, it is so quiet and neither pedestrians nor drives had that sound feedback.
@occonnerwilderness89235 жыл бұрын
The range is what stops me! I love road trips n mountain going but wtf are you gonna go with 60 miles😂 especially when everything goes 200 n some even 300 miles. Best EV they got for range is the Brutus V8 with like 240 range but it weighs 800lbs
@portlandshomlessproblem17285 жыл бұрын
They offer one with hot swappable batteries so you could carry a bunch of extras. It’s not the best solution but it works I guess
@bonusshaker92605 жыл бұрын
I would be interested to know how did you mount the camera / gopro on the wide bike shots without seeing the selfie stick.
@steve-usmcvet89345 жыл бұрын
Does it come with that cool 300-foot charging cord too? 1:54
@e-riding80655 жыл бұрын
Been riding Zero FX in Jakarta, because of traffic the range is not an issue. Also off road capability comes sometimes handy on the rough roads here
@TheCraigy835 жыл бұрын
Id rarther stick a cordless drill to my 10 speed drive train and carry a dozen batteries in my bag.. Id expect an r1 for 8k .
@GabrielGavlan5 жыл бұрын
fathead adolf barry 😭😭😭😭😭😭😂
@Overtorange5 жыл бұрын
An R1? You mean a $17k bike? I agree that 8k is too much, but get out of here lol.
@FUNKBOOGIE15 жыл бұрын
Electric Unicycle like the Gotway MSX can get up to 60-70 mile range on one full charge.The 2019 Zero FXS as big as it is, should get way more range than 41 miles especially for it's price and size.
@lifeandjeevan5 жыл бұрын
For 10,000$ in India you can buy a Royal Enfield continental GT 650, KTM RC 390 and a bullet 350 all together...
@faheezeee4 жыл бұрын
Where is the camera mounted for the outside "selfie stick" shots? for example at 4:25
@rolandtiiroja5 жыл бұрын
I'm buying it.
@nisam16375 жыл бұрын
How much its cost
@portlandshomlessproblem17285 жыл бұрын
nisam it’s like 10k I would buy it but I can’t afford it
@kashankhan91934 жыл бұрын
This need a license?
@DeiHarper93615 жыл бұрын
That camera...what is it? Seems weird..and very interesting all at once.
@kareemmorcy45925 жыл бұрын
Came here for this comment. How the hell did he achieve that camera angle?
@ThePartarar4 жыл бұрын
“No one even knew I was there, because I wasn’t making any noise” I dunno, this sounds like a recipe for motorcycle disaster.
@mirror16754 жыл бұрын
All motorcycles are intrinsically so unsafe that the electric ones being quiet makes little difference to their danger.
@ThePartarar4 жыл бұрын
@@mirror1675 generally my strategy for letting unsafe drivers know I’m there is lots of revs, I’d get merged into a bit more on something without a combustion engine
@elborix75 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me how he films these things...what am I missing is driving me crazy
@luckym0nk3y5 жыл бұрын
Lol. There is a gimball and camera that automaticly edits out the stick for it so it appears that its floating in mid air. Sorry for the english!
@punchcat07365 жыл бұрын
8k but closer to 10k affordable for a luxury 😂😂😂😂😂 Out of touch
@mozkitolife54375 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is still in the realm of richer inner city white collar folk.
@kbkesq5 жыл бұрын
punchrover out of touch with people who don’t work hard enough to afford $10 for transportation. How much did you pay for your phone and gaming computer?
@mozkitolife54375 жыл бұрын
@@kbkesq definitely not $8500 USD. You're out of touch too.
@keegans56955 жыл бұрын
I'll bet the car you drive cost more than that new. Haven't seen many new cars in the realm of 8 grand. I think you're missing the (sizeable but underinformed) niche of urban or suburban commuters that only drive cars because they commute outside the bounds of public transit. Electric motorcycles also have much lower upkeep costs so the up-front cost is made up for by savings later.
@Killo4645 жыл бұрын
@@keegans5695 the problem here is you're comparing this to cars, when in affordability it gets murdered by motorcycles. Is this thing more affordable than an entry level car? Sure. Is it more affordable than ANY other entry motorcycle? No. If affordability matter people will go out and buy a new 300/400 for ~4k If a budget is really tight they'll pick up used for ~$2,500 Also, before you kid yourself with the sub $10k price tag, don't forget the proper riding gear. a full set up does push you into new-old stock base model car territory. Without even glancing at the used car market.
@antonmayr64123 жыл бұрын
No, supermotos were most certainly not designed to do city commuting or highway riding - they were designed for use in racing on a specific type of course with lots of turns. Supermotos are quite a bit off from being an optimal design for a commuter, as they offer basically zero wind and weather protection but I understand this was done because it looks cool (also, other variants like the S with the same power train are available). And while I find the FXS very fun to drive because of the lively engine with tons of torque, I do not think it is a viable option. The price you mentioned might be the case for the US, but for Europe they are much higher and ny unoffardoable. The FXS has an insane pricetag of some 13,000€ (15,600$ US) which is almost twice the cost.
@luked84495 жыл бұрын
this sounded more like an advertisement than a review. were you sponsored?
@Twentykixx5 жыл бұрын
May I ask how the bike keeps fine dirt/dust particles from the motor etc... As well, how does this bike keep moisture and water from the battery and electrical systems? I think a simple dude for a ride review is ok for starters, but interested folks who will use this bike as intended, i.e., generic trails and modest off roaring, would like the particulars directly. I guess if you live in California it’s a no brainer, but what about the Mid-West, or even the Pacific Northwest, where riding can be year round, but wet and muddy. Yeah?
@joehodgson28155 жыл бұрын
Base price in Spain: 12,390 euros (13,794 dollars) - dammit!
@pinheadlarry19775 жыл бұрын
Goddamnit why do you Europeans have all the best shit
@magnusrittersen47025 жыл бұрын
Out the door my FX3.6 was Can$13,800. Worth every penny. FUN factor is through the roof!
@paolomartini1504 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to buy the same model but just a little faster and with a little more range? Or add ons? Also It would be super great if one could bypass the AC charger and charge straight from DC. Solar panels could be hooked up to it when parked. It would extend the range.
@MimicGriphon4 жыл бұрын
As much as I want to go all electric, idk why I would ever, at the wage 80٪ of people make, ever pay a premium for one.
@gmy333 жыл бұрын
people pay 40k for a dumb Harley .. I think I can pay 10 for a silent ninja warrior
@MrPhillip8763 жыл бұрын
In the future, I will own one of these. AWESOME VIDEO!
@END300005 жыл бұрын
8,000+ ........that's affordable? Are you serious might as well just purchase an actual car at that point
@mountain-milk5 жыл бұрын
Michael considering the low range of travel and the fact that the life expectancy for these bikes is less than half of a gas powered bike, I would not considering these affordable at all. They look like a blast to ride but until they have longer ranges, reasonable charge times, and longer life expectancy I don’t think the price can be justified for the average consumer.
@DarkIzo5 жыл бұрын
hiram esquivel 10k ? brand new car ? oof
@zeal84675 жыл бұрын
@@Peter-ff1tp the most affordable motorcycle is a used one. You dont go for affordability if you plan on paying sticker price. You can buy all of those gas bikes for a fraction of their cost used, and used does not equal abused. You couldnt even find a zero on the used marketplace, and even if you could batteries do not age well. Electric looks great initially but is wholly impractical for most riders, the infrastructure or the technology is just not there yet
@zeal84675 жыл бұрын
@@Peter-ff1tp The original comment was about the bike being affordable. None of the bikes you listed are considered affordable to most people unless you go to the used market, which is why I mentioned it. The price of a used bike is relevant here because the zero has a major disadvantage in its availability and battery degradation
@rerdmann5 жыл бұрын
Everything is relative. He’s speaking relative to others electric motorcycles.
@williamclark66415 жыл бұрын
What's the cost of a full charge? Curious how electric bike's are in wet weather?? Are they completely sealed off batteries. I'd think ventilation would be a must. How does it work?
@finns236535 жыл бұрын
Can go 60 miles, takes 9 hours to charge, basically very limiting everyday ride... Guy in video: "I love the versatility"
@YeeLeeHaw5 жыл бұрын
The 9 hours is for the standard wall outlet which you usually plug your bike in overnight.
@paulkazjack5 жыл бұрын
I've got one of these, they're nice and quiet but keep an eye on your mileage. It will catch you out!..... literally.
@motorcyclemichael21825 жыл бұрын
I need a 100 mile range on freeway for my round trip commute
@Erin-Thor5 жыл бұрын
Motorcycle Michael - Like Unintended Consequences mentioned, they have other models available, however none with larger than stock batteries available as an option, and non with batteries that can be swapped out. By swap I mean you could have one at work charging, so you could ride to work, swap, go home, charge and repeat. Also of note is the many, MANY warranty issues, they have no warranty, and no support. THINK before you consider a Zero.
@rs4race5 жыл бұрын
The other options are totally affordable.......
@Erin-Thor5 жыл бұрын
Motorcycle Michael - Highway range is 40 miles.
@steeleheraud34965 жыл бұрын
Sick video mate! I and across this video while looking at can/bus conversions and wanting an independent way to get around holiday distinctions... Something light, can charge via my solar panels, 100km+ too speed while still having enough torque and a generous travel range. Great price too.
@G0DofRock4 жыл бұрын
That silent intro.. Impressive as fuck!
@vicv0711225 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately my commute is 62 km and it's almost all hwy. All zero motorcycles are known to get about half of the estimated range. It's too bad I'd love one of these
@hansentyspy4 жыл бұрын
I love this so much except for the range..
@jeffk4125 жыл бұрын
nicely done! liked the shots of you whizzing past while still hearing the birds!
@dudewtf17765 жыл бұрын
40 mile range? 9 hours to charge? this is a damn childs toy.
@drio4205 жыл бұрын
Been on a zero fx for 2 years now. So much fun and connection with the road... I dont drive my 1000cc any more, unless i need the stow space or range. (Which isn't often)