Review: Playseat Challenge X Logitech edition

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

The included shifter holder can hold also other shifters than the Logitech shifter.

[@onezeon]

Got my challenge x and G923 today. Both great and this folding rig is lovely

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Enjoy the ride friend 💙

[@hoisalihoi]

Thank you for the detailed video 👍 In the video you can see that a Fanatec CSL Elite pedals and wheelbase have been fitted. I wonder if all this fitted to the original mounting plates of the Challenge X. I would also like to install a Fanatec setting instead of a Logitech setting 😊

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

All original. Only added some large spacers to decently attach the pedals. The pedal brackets offer alot of flexibility (inside or outside/inversed). Its not perfect but already a very decent system. For shifter holder I think you will need to buy one to attach to the pre-drilled hole.

[@Mario93CA]

I really like your videos, very informative and honest reviews, keep doing great job. Subscribed. Groetjes uit Nederland 👍

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Altijd fijn zo een comment te lezen. 💙

[@Skat3Juan]

thank you for the video and bringing the details of the seat, base, new changes of this playseat X. I would like to build the foot plate and install it in my current playseat which is the older one. I'm thinking in build 2 angle plates and bolt it together to tilt it if needed. anyway thanks man

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

You are very welcome. I think that if you have access to a 3d-printer, there are some nice designs on thingiverse that you can use. Succes friend!

[@Skat3Juan]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource thanks!

[@danieldaniels640]

3:28 finally a seat for true racers

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Still waiting for a 100% cat resistant seat though

[@Ubben1999]

I have the original challenge, and it's just very wobbly. Especially when slamming on the breaks, the whole thing just lifts into the air. This seems like it may be large enough of an improvement to upgrade.

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

The mechanism for the pedals, despite the fact that the attachments are very much improved remains the same. There is no locking of the folding so you will still be able to lift the rig when breaking hard.

[@Ubben1999]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource Ah, that’s unfortunate, thanks for pointing that out. I realise now you actually said so in the video, too, I just wasn’t paying all that much attention. My buddy just picked this up so I will be able to test it out before buying. If it doesn’t work for me I guess I need to get a Playseat Trophy or similar “rigid but portable” kind of thing.

[@Ubben1999]

Found your “best cockpits 2024” video, perfect!

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

@@Ubben1999 for sure. Its an improvement but if you already have a challenge, its not really worth the extra money. But since you can test it, you can judge. If you have the space, since its not foldable, the Trophy really is a good cockpit.

[@Ubben1999]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource Ended up getting the Trophy. Expensive for a couple of tubes and a small tent to strap between ‘em, but it’s miles better than the challenge. Just being able to break confidently without worrying about the chair lifting into the air makes a huge difference for immersion and consistency. Very happy with it. Thanks for the input!

[@giogamer4825]

I miss something (very stupid I know) and that is the velco strap you can put on the headrest to keep the seat closed

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Well, in theory it would be redundant as you can use the hubs to keep it closed?

[@giogamer4825]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource Yes yes. But still, as a Challenge user, it feels like missing something important that it not opens up with your DD Pro on it 🤣 But I understand what you mean

[@Dieterbe]

The ergonomics of the seat look terrible. Why must it bend at the mid back and push your upper back, neck and head forward?

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

It is a comment that comes back. For some people it is not optimal. For myself, perhaps because of my limited height, I had no issues with it.

[@onezeon]

I own this one and it's perfect for me.

[@QLMTA]

Yeah i get bad pain in my lower back when i sit for longer than an hour in this chair. To bad because other than that its perfect

[@marcianzero_yt]

It is good to have an improved version. It looks better than the previous Challenge in the important places. As you say, the price tag is something. Especially when you compare it to a PlaySeat Evolution that is probably going to be a bit more rigid. But in case you don’t hav the space for a fixed setup, it could be compelling.

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Hmmmmm.. not sure if I agree on the rigidity part. Then again it has been a long time I had an Evo in here

[@marcianzero_yt]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource You are the expert. If the challenge beats the Evo on rigidity that would be great.

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

@@marcianzero_yt I would need to look and compare the footage of the wheelbase holder really when driving. For pedal base though, i am pretty sure the Challenge is better. I really am thinking of using it as my "main" rig but my daughter was against selling the rig "I made myself" 🤭

[@marcianzero_yt]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource Once you review a 25 or 30 nm base and want to keep it, the profile rig will be the only way. ;)

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

@@marcianzero_yt don't think I will get into that. Am happy around the 10Nm marker but you have a point of course. I guess I will keep the bulky one . It does have a cupholder that one 🤭

[@AxelStrife93]

Would this provide a better experiance than a NLR wheelstand 2.0 and office chair? I have the Wheelstand 2.0 and despite the chair wheels being in the metal stopper so it doesnt roll the chair back still moves when braking with my v3 pedals. need the foldability so no proper setup unfortunetly.

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Yes it will. While a wheelstand is really handy I always felt like it lacked some immersion. You will sit lower, more in a position you would really sit in a car with it and because its 1 part, you will eliminate the sliding away part. One thing to keep in mind, while the wheelbase holder is not bad, it will be less sturdy than you are used to with the NLR. Nonetheless, if I needed to choose for a compact solution that needs to be folded and stored away, the Challenge X would carry my preference.

[@TurboZHK]

Before I switch to a Trophy, I had my V2 pedals set up on my original playseat challenge, if the brake force is above 15, every time I step on the brake, I will lift the whole chair up. Is that still a problem on the new Challege X?

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

The Challenge X, no matter how good it is, is still a foldable system and the hinge part can't be locked so there is still a possibility to lift it when you brake really hard. I cant tell you how much it will take in terms of force though. The Trophy is much better in that perspective.

[@filgas6691]

Hi, very useful video! In the official website, they say that the height of the seat is 105 cm but which is the height when the seat is folded? Thank you very much

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

130cm height when folded, width 52, depth 44

[@tashantowezer9144]

@Neosphinx thanks for the review. I am looking to buy the same setup. When the plate is reversed like in your video do the holes on the plate line up with the dd pro T-nut slots on all three slots or just the two outer ones? Also how did you mount the v2 pedals, which part is bolted on? Appreciate any feedback!

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

When reversed, I fixed it with 3 so its Well attached. For pedals, the top brackets are reversed (turned outwards) and there are 2 holes that line up with the front 2 open holes of the elite v2'. This with the use of the spacers Locks them quite Well into place.

[@tashantowezer9144]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource appreciated thanks very much! Very helpful

[@tashantowezer9144]

Hi @Neosphinx one more question regarding pedal mounting are they M6 bolts or M8 and which mm length. In your video it looks like you have the holes at the heelrest also bolted that would be preferable ofcourse Is that correct?

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

No only the front with 2 m6. I dont know length anymore but I think I used the included Playseat ones for it.

[@tashantowezer9144]

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[@desistyle3]

@neosphinx - can you share what shifter holder you added via that threaded hole you mentioned? I’d like to give that a shot :)

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Just a basic SimXpro shifter holder. Not perfect but good enough.

[@MarcAlimi]

Hello, can you tell me please if the holes for fixing a trhustmaster ts-xw and a TLCM are present on playseat challenge X

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

@@MarcAlimi i currently am abroad so I cant test but as far as I read, with turning the braces outwards it should work for the pedals. TM wheelbase are no issue

[@MarcAlimi]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource thanks a lot

[@Mrx.Dsk.]

Perdona amigo, ya la pedi esta por llegarme, es suficiente estable para jugar en ella?

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Debido al mecanismo para entrar en el asiento, hay una debilidad por la robustez. Pero para los sistemas plegables, esto es lo mejor que encontrarás. No te preocupes demasiado por ello, te divertirás con él.

[@Mrx.Dsk.]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource gracias amigo😊

[@heuksalman]

How much brake force can be put on the pedal? the blue screws seem weak

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

I cant tell you how much. Didnt experience issues but I can tell you it looks werker than it actually is

[@heuksalman]

You think it would handle 200kg?

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

No. Its still a foldable system and is not designed for such braking forces.

[@Mrx.Dsk.]

Es compatible con t300?

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Absolutely yes.

[@Mrx.Dsk.]

​@@SimulatedDrivingResourcethx!😊

[@AKK5I]

It seems like the GT lite pro is a better rig

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Depends on the pov. I still have a GT Lite Pro so I was thinkiing of doing a more in depth comparison for them.

[@joanmamauri9964]

I am in between those 2 (need a foldable chair as comfortable as possible ) so I would appreciate a comparison between the challenge x and gt lite pro

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

@@joanmamauri9964 It's on my schedule for this week

[@fmp_nellix82]

Having a CSL as a pedal board where can I possibly attach the central pedal?

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Only the sides unfortunately

[@fmp_nellix82]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource Too bad it was an excellent solution for my space

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

@@fmp_nellix82 something for Playseat to consider in their v2 of this solution indeed. For the CSL pedals, it can not be attached properly enough for it to withstand braking power if you use a 3 pedal lay out.

[@fmp_nellix82]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource exactly, let's hope so. Thank you

[@tortuga7160]

How did you mount the pedals? I have the challenge x and csl pedals. Having trouble

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

For pedals, the top brackets are reversed (turned outwards) and there are 2 holes that line up with the front 2 open holes of the elite v2'. This with the use of the spacers Locks them quite Well into place.

[@tortuga7160]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource thank you! The brackets work with some ingenuity

[@postalpancho]

Drillgun should work.

[@hephistomeres4565]

hi do you know if it's compatible with moza r9 and crp pedals?

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

I read the R9 can be attached with 2 bolts which should be sufficiant. I dont have a MOZA base so cant test it out myself. I do have some crp pedals and will test them this weekend.

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Sorry for the delay. The CRP pedals can be attached with 2 bolts if you get a bit creative with the holders (one holder on the inside, the other on the outside of the bracket).

[@hephistomeres4565]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource thank youu!!

[@hephistomeres4565]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource hey would love to see some captures or a video of the crp pedals please! Greeting from Argentina !

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

I can not post pictures in these comments, but I uploaded them to discord in this thread discord.com/channels/935269059564540025/1254923223108419726/1260633943091187762

[@tontonbernard6145]

merci

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

De Rien 👍

[@djdunods]

Does it fit thrustmaster t300 pedal

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

According to Playseat, yes, but I was not able to test it since I have none any more

[@0woodbridger0]

It's wider and hasn't got those annoying strap holders digging in your legs.

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

The removal of the straps is indeed a very big plus for me in this build

[@erikgonzalez2486]

In my opinion it’s way uglier than the playseat challenge this is literally a lawn chair lmao

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Beach chair... lawn chair... les goûts et les couleurs ne se discutent pas 😁

[@dandanakka05it04]

Hi , can we use it as a normal chair when not playing game ? Or can we remove the frame that holds the steering wheel to make it a normal gamer chair ?

[@SimulatedDrivingResource]

Sure. The part holding the wheelbase can be removed but you can just tilt it out of the way too. That is how my daughter used it.

[@dandanakka05it04]

@@SimulatedDrivingResource thanks