Review Sanrenmu LAND 9103 & 9104. THE BEST BUDGET FOLDER I Have Ever Reviewed!!!

[@2konfucjusz]

It's insane that the steel version is as light as the G10 version. Rather shocked by that, I just got the black G10 and WOW, you are right, such a great blade. I'm also amazed by the blade's finish, how the back is rounded off in such a great fashion (so not for surivalists but who cares), makes it so elegant and nice to fondle! The bearings are just as smooth as the Ganzo G751 I have (and that is probably the best knife of 2017 for me and the bearing have additional washers inside). The only flaw I just noticed is that the thumb studs seem to be made of aluminum (or something as soft) and get scratched up easily by other stuff I happen to have in my pocket (this is only visible since they are blued and would not be a problem otherwise) Wow this is a long comment, but I'm hyped about this knife too ;) I wonder how the 12c27 will hold an edge, I have had mixed (if in general good) experience, and it's so hard to tell if it's the real deal. Most brand knifes with this steel are killer tho! Seems much better then 8cr13mov (and as rust resistant), softer then 440C in terms of edge retention but not by much, and very hard to damage or chip (Mora knives use this steel for the stainless versions). This all makes one hell of a good budget steel, and it can take a razor edge and mirror polish like no other (very fine gradation of the steel). Also (and this is important) very nice to the touch, if you know what I mean. Wow I'm writing a book, not a comment....

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks for the book, well at least one chapter. :) Did you notice the picture that I put in the video that shows how much steel they milled out of the handle slabs, they worked hard to keep it from becoming a heavy knife. I think the thumbstuds are the same material as newer blue anodized hardware that Ganso is using. I haven't had any of mine come off but just the use of my thumb rubbing on one of them has, now that I went back and took a close look at it, rubbed some of the colour off. My take on the 12C27 is that I think it is genuine, it has lasted quite well for me in my testing and it sharpened very much like my other knives with 12C27 too.

[@olafkliemt1145]

got my 910Plus today. machining and factory adjustment is just insanely good. 12C27 heat treatment is excellent (decent edge retention), blade centered, fall-shut, razor-sharp, no hotspots and and and. Sanrenmu really rocks. no wonder that Spyderco and others have their knives made by them.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Hi Olaf, yeah, their factory knows how to make some good quality stuff. Thanks for sharing your experience and opinion.

[@attic42]

Jake, I (like you) am also absolutely gushing about the Sanrenmu Land 910 series of knives. I own three. I have one question: In this video you said that this is the best budget knife of 2017. I agree. You also said, however, that you have some YStart knives that come close to being as good. I am just super curious as to which YStart knives you had in mind when you made that statement. If they come highly recommend from you, and if they even come close to what the 910s offer with regards to quality, I want to own them. So which YStart knives, specifically, were you thinking of when you said that they are high up there in the budget knife strata? And since this video is from last year, has there been any other knife (besides the Ystarts) that you'd include along with the 910 as the too budget folder of 2017 AND/OR 2018? Thanks! Sidenote: You said that you'll never own a Sebenza due to financial reasons. I feel the same way. I can never imagine having that kind of money to purchase that kind of knife. Nevertheless, I just want to say that if there were ever anyone who deserved one - it is YOU. I hope one day you either find the means to own one or that someone gives you a well-deserved gift. I wish I could buy two - one for me and one to give to you. Thanks so much for all that you do. You make this odd hobby of ours so much more enjoyable.

[@stevebantersb]

the paint on the thumb studs wore off. now it looks pocket worn, LOVE IT!

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Your's has a patina now. NICE.

[@erimemrebaran1206]

I love your rewievs as you are tight on budget and not promoting the knives that I can not even dream of. Thank you verry much. I hope you can get over your hardships soon. I love your lovely voice.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Well, there is the odd knife that I review that costs a bit more. I did one recently that is $100USD, but I only do an expensive knife like that a few times a year. (Most reviewers think $100 is the top of the budget range, but I think it is in the expensive range).

[@cole3078]

I have both knives. One from gearbest, and one from aliexpress. Paid around $15 each. They go for about $28 each on Amazon. The price to value ratio is through the roof on these. You get the quality of a $75-$80 knife for the price of a cheap gas station folder. The most knife for the money, hands down.

[@huejanus5505]

I have the black and green versions and love them, but I'm a little hesitant to buy another, I like variety. Then I saw the Ruike P-801. Upgraded sandvik steel blade, pivot bearings and it was only $42. Can (($29.95 US) with free shipping. Should get it Saturday. Ruike has some nice, affordable offerings, you should check them out.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I just got my first Ruike knife today. That is a cool brand, I think the Sanrenmu factory makes their stuff for them.

[@matthewgonzales6623]

Hi Jake. Love your videos! I have purchased Ganzos and these Land knives based on your recommendations. You are a class act, brother! By the way, you were not kidding about this Land knife! Great steel for the price and excellent fit & finish. I have the stone-washed as well as the black g-10 versions. Keep fighting the good fight, my friend. Cheers!

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thank you Matthew, I appreciate the kind words. I try hard to provide quality reviews.

[@cocabandi]

I really like this knife too, and because I've refrained from buying any knives for many a moon now, I intend to purchase one for when my birthday comes around. Like you, I'm on a budget, so more reason to appreciate an excellently made knife at a budget price. Thanks.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

This is not a bad knife to break your knife buying fast. :)

[@supervisionsports3381]

Hi Jake if you had to choose between the LAND 9103 and the Y - START JIN01 which would you buy? and why? Thanks and BTW I really enjoy your reviews.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Most likely the LAND knives would be my choice. It's not a instantly clear answer. I would probably answer Sanrenmu 60% of the time and the JIN01 40% of the time. I like that I know exactly what steel I am getting with the Sanrenmu and it is a steel I am very happy with indeed. The other plus is that the Sanrenmu have a pocket clip. I do like the JIN01 a lot and it would be an even harder decision if they would have made it with a nice pocket clip. I sometimes am in a situation where I don't mind carrying a knife without a pocket clip but not always. A pocket clip is always a good thing because it is there when I want it and I can ignore it when I just want to drop the knife into a pocket or a backpack etc.

[@brendynr8683]

I know this sounds generic but this is true you are not only my favorite KZbinr you are my favorite knife reviewer and I am subscribed to 95%of the reviewers thank you for becoming a member of the top 2%of the best

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I am overwhelmed. That might be the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me on KZbin. thank you.

[@paul_schuette]

Thanks for opening my eyes to these knives! Love the look of the 9103 and can hardly believe that it's riding on bearings and has Sandvik 12c27 steel for the price!

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I know, it is so amazing to me too.

[@paul_schuette]

I ordered a 9103 right after watching this video. Just got it today, and I am THOROUGHLY impressed! You weren't kidding about the quality. Pretty awesome for $15! It's almost unbelievable how nice it is for that price -- fit and finish, milling on the inside of the scales, bearing pivot, rounded blade spine. Those processes all take extra time. You have to wonder how they aren't losing money on it. I'm interested to see how the steel performs. I'm familiar with Sandvik 14C28N, but I have no experience with this one. Sounds like it should be pretty decent though. It was a little bit stiff out of the box (easily fixed with some oil and opening and closing it) and the blue is already wearing off of the thumb stud. Not a big deal at all to me. Thanks again for the heads up on this one. Couldn't be happier. As a side note, I'm a lefty and was a little concerned I would have difficulty keeping my thumb off of the lock bar when deploying it. I've had absolutely no difficulty with this. Your mileage may vary.

[@colecon1012]

Those are a couple of beauties Jake! Stone washing your own knives sounds very interesting. I would definitely like to see that.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks for watching and letting me know Cole. I will make that video, if my stonewash media ever arrives.

[@ScottieG59]

I ordered a couple when I saw them on GearBest flash sale for $14.99 with free delivery to the US. There are many excellent Chinese budget knife options and Sanrenmu is one of the best.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I totally agree. They have excellent quality. Thankfully they have a few of these full-size knives, I wish they had many more.

[@Lemonhoko]

Very good review...I bought one based off of your review...jI can say that you were spot on with this knife...its the best value per dollar in this catagory that you can find.....any chance on a follow up review as an update on how you feel one year later? Thanks!

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks Lemon, I appreciate it

[@alecbruyns4490]

I have the black, green, and silver models. These are sized just right. The blade length of 3 1/4 inches just feels so right in my hand. The Sebenzas are 3 5/8 and just under 3 inches, by their site, so not quite right. The CRKT Amicus is almost the same length, but wider and heavier. I find myself carrying one of the 910 line most of the time.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

They are a very nice knife to carry indeed. They feel just about perfect to me too.

[@baboonmcgoon6605]

Excellent review. My only problem is which one do I get, the dark version or the light?

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Well, the best way to solve that problem is to get one of each :) Well, it may not be best for your budget, but I am sure it will make you happy.

[@baboonmcgoon6605]

I might be lucky to find any of them for sale as I live in the UK.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

You can get them the same place I do, from GearGest. I have other UK viewers get a lot of their knives from GearBest. I have links in my video description section below the video.

[@baboonmcgoon6605]

On the GearBest page is says they cannot ship to the United Kingdom. Also, the knife I was interested in was the all steel one (dark version) and they only seem to have the two colour versions with scales. uk.gearbest.com/pocket-knives-and-folding-knives/pp_606098.html?wid=25 This isn't a problem as I don't HAVE to have this particular knife. I think I would sooner choose another make and model that I can buy from a UK seller rather than have the hassle and waiting that comes with importing a knife.

[@outdoor-buddy]

I got the first version with G10 scales. Wonderful knife. Its my current edc

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I really like both the liner lock and the frame lock a lot. The frame lock is just a bit nicer, but too bad frame locks are not friendly for lefties. There are times when I am thankful that my brothers were all right handed and my parents were too poor to buy me left handed sports equipment like baseball gloves - it forced me to learn to use my right hand.

[@riomayor]

Hello !. I am waiting for a 910 + from gear best. If I Want another folding knife (unfortunately never is enought),what do you think that will be a best election: The land 9104 or the y-start jin 01 ?.Thanks for your channel, i bought the jin 02 based on your recomendation .

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks for watching and writing. Wow, what a question. Both are wonderful, but right now I like the 9104 better. But if you are looking for something that has a bit of that gentleman's folder look then the Y-START would be the choice. We each have our own unique situations so what is my favourite may not be what is best for you. but I am sure that you will be happy with either one.

[@scottragan9992]

First time viewer of your channel. Good review, you picked up a subscriber! I bought the Sanrenmu 7010 not long ago and really like it, excellent value for under $10. You've sold me on the 9103/9104 I will be picking one of those up soon. On a side note you can also pick these models up form FastTech. I've bought knives from both FastTech and GearBest, and personally I've found FastTech to be quicker and more reliable.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thank you so much for commenting on your first video of mine, and thanks for subscribing. I no longer deal with FastTech. I have had too many bad experiences with them where they refuse to make things right. I won't go into it here except to say that their after sale service when things do go wrong is THE WORST that I have had from ANY online vendor. GearBest has always fixed any issues that came up, and that is true from before I became a reviewer on KZbin, back when I meant nothing to them other than as a regular customer.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

GearBest certainly is NOT perfect, but they are better when things go wrong than the other Chinese online vendors - in my experience. We all go by our own experiences, and I realize that other folks have other experiences.

[@scottragan9992]

Thanks for the feedback on customer service. I haven't had a problem with either company yet, but that's good to know. I know recently I ordered a knife from GearBest on August 19th that I'm still waiting for, but a knife I ordered from FastTech on August 31st arrived yesterday. So the shipping speed is much better. But if FastTech isn't going to fix potential problems I can see how that would turn me away from them as well.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

It's hard to judge the speed from a few orders. I order several packages every week and have for a couple of years now, so I have hundreds of orders to use as data points. I found that the speed varies from order to order and that goes for all the Chinese vendors

[@colecon1012]

Got the 9104 about 6 months ago and I love it!!! Ordered the 9103 last week from gear best on a flash sale $15 Canadian! Incredible knife for that price or even double that price.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Yeah, at $14CAD this is a VERY good buy. It will definitely be in the top 2 or 3 in my end of year "best of" video series

[@paddyspotatopeelers2154]

Jake I got the plus version and I would just like people to know what you said was fact.i love mine and would recommend it to anyone.thank you.atb paddy

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks paddy. Sanrenmu has this part of the market sewed up tight. The 710 is the best under $10 but the 910x are the best for the next little step up to $20 (I have US dollars in mind.)

[@LtSurvival]

Ha my friend we see eye to eye got the 910Pro in both colour (from China) and the 9103 (from EDC Vault) and finally decided to go for the 9104 (from china since budget and EDC Vault is out of stock) that one, the Y-Start JIN 02 and the F759M are the only ones i got in so many multiples Love the feel of the 910... and i must agree it is my preferred one up to now. Nice review. Permit me to steal your qualification "Best EDC Knife"

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

It sounds like we think a lot alike indeed.

[@vanderstelt50]

Just got the blackwash and G10 versions and WOW, Im totally sold. Purchased thru your links and shipping was fine I'll definitely be using more links in the future.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thank you so much David. I appreciate that very much. I still like the 9104 and 9103 VERY much. They will definitely show up in my "Best of 2017" videos. The links that GearBest lets me use are only valid for a month, so if you choose to buy a knife from a video that is over a month old perhaps you could email me and ask me to update the links for you so that I can still get credit for the purchase. Older links will still get you to the correct item - the purchase just won't count toward my account.

[@vanderstelt50]

You may notice I posted an answer in The Kevin Clearly group where he was rounding up the best $10-$20 EDC. These easily are top of the list IMO

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

No, I had not noticed that he even had a roundup of the best knives in the $10 to $20 category. I wouldn't have thought that he liked that price range at all. I agree though that these knives are SUPERB!! I recommend them to anyone and everyone who is looking for this size of a knife at a LOW price. If they want a smaller knife then I suggest their baby brothers the 7010 series.

[@vanderstelt50]

You should definitely jump in because you have perhaps the most to say on the matter!

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Where is this? On his Facebook group?

[@metalkingconqueror]

If you want a good grease for ball bearing knives, Canadian tire sells white lithium grease in the auto section under their Permatex brand. I've used it on a jin02 and I could tighten the pivot down a ton and it was still buttery smooth (with no bladeplay at all).

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I have tried several grease options and white lithium is good stuff indeed. What I am using now, at least until I run out is "Tetra Gun Grease" : amzn.to/2q4gw3C I bought some of this when I was in USA - it is a bit expensive here in Canada.

[@catz2006]

First of all, great reviews! I am going to order some ganzo at gearbest to sent to BC. You mention its best to order maximum 2 knife at a time to lower the chance of the package getting inspection. What would happen if they inspect the package ?

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Even better than only ordering 2 or maybe 3 is to make sure you choose "CA Registered" as your way of having GearBest ship it to you. CBSA often denies knives entry into Canada - knives they call illegal, but all other police agencies are fine with. The law in Canada regarding knives is a full 2 sentences long, but CBSA's interpretation of it is many pages where they lay out all kinds of rules against many knives. If they deny entry to a knife then you are out of hope. They say there is an appeal process but NOBODY EVER wins an appeal against CBSA. on KZbin search for "Canadian Cutting Edge CBSA" and you will find a couple of videos I have done about CBSA

[@catz2006]

Thanks for your help, I will make sure the shipping is by CA Registered. Looking forward to your next review ☺

[@Lex5576]

These are indeed excellent knives. Sanrenmu has had their shit together for a long time, and these 9100 series knives are just another example of the Chinese upping the bar to a new level of quality. Being Chris Reeve must be great....and suck....at the same time. His designs are so prolific, yet in being so those designs are among the most copied by other makers.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I agree with ya. There are two sides to the knife copying issue. ( or more) While I hate clones - my definition is knives that lie about who the maker is by trying to trick the buyer into thinking they are getting a brand that is different than the actual maker. So while I hate clones, I do think that knives that are very similar to iconic knives don't really have much of a negative effect on the original maker. It draws attention to the original. I think most people who buy a copy are guys like me, guys who would never pay for the original article, or perhaps we might be inspired to save up for the original after we have experienced a good copy. I don't think that the folks who can readily afford a Sabenza decide not too and buy a copy instead - I just don't think it happens very often - those folks take pride in getting the original article. Just my perspective and opinion. I could be mistaken, but like everyone - I don't think I am wrong.

[@paul_schuette]

I wonder if whatever patents Chris Reeve held for the Sebenza may have run out at this point. I'm not sure how long those last, but the Sebenza has been around for quite a while. Also (as you mentioned), with knives in such different price and materials categories, I honestly don't think Chris Reeve is too worried. I read on a watch forum one time (although, not sure about the validity of this) that a Rolex representative was asked for his opinion on Invicta's obvious "homage" to the Rolex Submariner. He simply said, "Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery." Yeah, not overly concerned.

[@dalecarpenter8828]

Paul Schuette A patent is for 20 years .

[@canadianmunnster728]

Great video Jake, I picked one up and they are smooth as silk and just an awesome knife. I haven't been around commenting or watching videos lately, my Dad recently passed away so I've been busy with other things. Keep up the great work.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

My condolences about your Dad. I just got some super bad news about my mom a few days ago, there is a high chance that we will lose her this spring or summer. I HATE cancer.

[@canadianmunnster728]

Ya it sucks, Sorry to hear about your Mom I hope she can at least be comfortable and have family with her.

[@diannedoyle3278]

I have the stonewash and love it. Too bad Sanenmu doesn't use the same ambi tip-up clip on the 7010.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks for watching Dianne, I love stonewash!!! Wait, the 7010 isn't ambi, the clip is R side tip down only. At least on all of the 6 7010's that I have had.

[@dalecarpenter8828]

I have the clones and i have tuned them and they are smooth and the blade drops with no blade play any direction .i even have the 21with carbon wave pattern 4 ozs i really like them but i ain't never going to throw that much down for a crk . Trying bearing pivots .have a few coming . Good vid .good info .

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

It doesn't take a lot of time or effort, usually, to tune up a budget knife and then you have a blade that you can enjoy for a long time and it has good quality too.

[@kwii22789]

Been busy with final exams but now I got a lot of videos to catch up on and like :)

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I noticed that you were not commenting much. I hope you did very well on your exams!!

[@kwii22789]

Ya I was very busy but I am still here! Yes it went well. Thanks!

[@Canto00]

Hey, amazing video. Did you check out the ganzo f753m? It's pretty cool I think you'd love it

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

My new review for today is of that very knife. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gp_HmXmOfZd3bLc

[@Canto00]

Canadian Cutting Edge Shit man nice!

[@bgyen]

I'm waiting for a couple of these to come in the mail. I really liked the 910+, so these should be just as good. They really are a great deal for what you get price-wise.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Indeed, they are great for the price. the 710 is the best folder under $10USD, and these 910x knives are easily the best for under $20. Sanrenmu has the budget folder market locked up!!

[@tntanto]

Ok, you convinced me. It’s now on my short list of knives to buy.

[@bert2530]

so jealous you have a SHORTlist...., sigh

[@jpulli1509]

Ordered mine from GearBest when they first came out. Can't wait until it arrives.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I think you will like it a lot once it arrives. The one I ordered from GearBest has arrived, just a few days ago, so you should get yours quite soon.

[@jpulli1509]

Jake, I bought a Y-Start Jin-01 based on your review and I couldn't be happier. Thanks for being honest and objective. Like you, I'm on a budget, and these reviews really help steer my hard earned dollars.

[@gordonstevenson535]

9103 just came in. 6 weeks for delivery. Cold as ice and hard as hell to open. We'll see what it's like when it warms up and a bit of lube. I might be pressing against the lock bar when trying to open it. When it does flick open, holy molly it fast.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Ahh yeah, I tried to open a few right after opening the box right from it being out in the cold - they can be nasty that way.

[@Neeverseen]

How do you flick this open? The thumb stud is extremely small and I can't manage to open this one handed no matter how hard I try.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Are you left handed by any chance? In my right hand I just flick it open like any other folding knife it works wonderfully, and it worked wonderfully right out of the box. I have 4 of them now, I bought some spares for gifts and they all open just fine. BUT, in the left hand they don't open well because as you push with your thumb you also put pressure down on the lockbar and that keeps it from opening - this is true of a LOT of framelock knives.

[@Neeverseen]

Hmm, no. I am right handed :/ I will have to see, maybe the detent came out too sharp edged and needs some breaking in. Thanks for the response, keep up the good work!

[@Neeverseen]

Hah! Got it now, turns out it was my technique and I've read missing thumb meat is a thing. Dude, are you planning to review more Kizer knives?

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I would LOVE to review more Kizer knives. The only limitation is that they cost more than I have and they don't give discounts to reviewers and they don't see me as a reviewer with enough viewership to send me any knives to review, so it's full price for me and that really puts a damper on procurement.

[@silenthilltim]

On the sanrenmu store on Aliexpress the titanium version is offered. Just search 'land 812' and it should pop up. Great knife.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I have the 812 - I just need to make the video for it. :)

[@SHADOW-ke6xz]

otherwise good job I'm canadian as well and I like that there's a canuck reviewing knives

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Very nice. the sibling to this knife that has G10 and is a liner lock but otherwise the exact same size and blade is on sale right now for $9.99USD at GearBest Green: www.gearbest.com/pocket-knives-and-folding-knives/pp_606098.html?lkid=11079768 BLACK is on for $14USD : www.gearbest.com/pocket-knives-and-folding-knives/pp_606097.html?lkid=11079770 hard to beat those prices on this great knife, but I can see why a guy would want to stick with the 9103 or 9104

[@sarge1231]

Wish someone could explain how SRM makes a profit on these. Also makes you wonder how much the major manufacturers make on their knives that are way over 100 dollars. I've paid more than 10 dollars for replacement pocket clips. I can say, unlike many major companies, every SRM knife I've had was of quality fit and finish.

[@Chineseknives]

You say the best budget folder knife you reviewed. Better than your loving y-start jin01?. I think they could put a g10 scale, one on the left part of the handle. Regards!

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Yeah, I think I like it a bit better than my JIN01 on most days. The blade steel is what puts it over the Y-START

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

They do have the 910Plus, but it has G10 on both sides. I like mine a LOT: www.gearbest.com/pocket-knives-and-folding-knives/pp_606098.html?lkid=11013721

[@Chineseknives]

Yes but i want to say 9103 and 9104 with one g10 scale, like almost all frame lock knives with big sizes (no sanrenmus).

[@davidmathews2124]

Like the 9104 best. Not just a great knife for the money...simply a great knife. The low cost does add a bit of awesomeness though.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

INDEED. it is a great knife and that is why it is also a great knife for the money, not the other way around like many knives.

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

I just got a 9104 and it's a bit stiff, I've hurt my thumb a bit while opening it and even after a while it still needs some hard flicking to get it open...

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I have been hearing that same complaint from a few others lately too. I have had 3 9014's and 2 9103's and they have all been fine. It is NEVER good that a person actually hurts themselves simply by opening a knife, that is not okay. Are you familiar with taking knives apart and adjusting the pivots? IF so, did that help at all? Please email me if you want to chat further about this because I often lose track of KZbin conversations. CanadianCuttingEdge AT gmail.com (if you do write, remind me of the whole issue please).

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

I'm no expert in taking knives apart but adjusting the pivots seems easy...maybe I'll try. It seems to me that the detent is way to strong. even pulling the blade out with my fingers is not all that easy.

[@WarRadish]

I know my comment is VERY late, but I've just found this. You mentioned maybe showing your stonewash process. I'd like to see that, if possible. Cheers.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks for the comment and reminder. I haven't been able to get a good and proper stonewash system working. It is still on a back burner so if/when I get it right I will indeed make a video of it. I am sorry to disappoint, but that is how it is right now.

[@raymondwilliams2609]

Hey Jake, I'd LOVE to see your Stonewashing video when you get the machine up and running. 🇬🇧🔪

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Yeah, I thought I had the process figured out with my equipment but then I ran into trouble and then summer and travel came up. I hope to get something on video this Fall.

[@dalecarpenter8828]

Have both of these knives .i love them .when some one tries to tell me a sabenza is worth it .i tell them to turn the sabenza all but sideways and drop the blade .the 9104 and 9103 will drop with the slightest down hill angle . Took the 9104 with me to the eclipse totality zone in Oregon .i was camping and dropped it in fine silty dirt .the part that holds the bearings sort of seals the bearing .it was oiled .just brew it out and no grind . Im a user not a fan boy .this is a good knife .its not a copy its showing how a sabenza should have been made . This knife is far better than a sabenza . If there wasnt so much sabenza cult bull shit i would ha never found this knife . Found it on ebey not youtube . The sabenza is a very good $50.0 -$100.00 dollar knife . I would buy one for that much .but the price is a deal breaker .like tip down only pocket clip. I have the money to buy one .im not a collector and i would feel pretty foolish if i bought one ( to use like i use a knife ) ( break baton ) I do have a bunch of user knives .i carry 2 usually .1 sheeple knife and 1 large folding knife mostly the recon 1 spear point in xhp od handle .cant hardly leave home without it .the little sheeple knife is to use in a herd of sheeple so i dont start a sheeple stampeed

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I am not sure if I believe that this knife is better than the Sabenza but I do know that is FAR FAR FAR better than the Sabenza for ME! (and you too, apparently). That is a great story about the fine silty sand - NICE!! The one thing I do like about the Sabenza is that they have even better steel options. For everything else I am super happy with the Sanrenmu, and well, to be honest, for EDC I think Sandvik steel is plenty good enough too. Better steel is better, but good enough steel is... well... good enough. and if you have good enough then you don't need "better"!

[@getx1265]

Nice review! Now I have to decide which of the two to get!

[@getx1265]

Ordered satin thru your link.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

THANKS so much for using my link. which one did you settle on?

[@getx1265]

I ordered the 9103 so I'd have a matching big brother for my 7010 I like so well.

[@nottoosuckyreviews5211]

I have a theory about the LAND division of Sanrenmu, that it's now simply the 'training' division of Real Steel. To all but those with the most discriminating eye, these knives seem perfect, but between me and a friend, we've ordered over a half dozen of the 910/9104 and there's always been small problems. Definitely still spectacular products - I'm just speculating that the limited runs of these knives somehow correlate to some internal training program :-)

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

That is not an unreasonable speculation. My idea is that LAND is simply a model designation for their knives that are over 3 inches in the blade. Who knows maybe we are both partly right. In any case, they are darn good knives for very little money.

[@nottoosuckyreviews5211]

I'm probably reading too much into it, but I can't help imagining one of their senior designers every few years giving the new hires the challenge to 'make a Sebenza' ;-) Then there's the models that are physically the same or nearly the same between Sanrenmu and Real Steel. I wonder if you have any pair of these sibling products to compare... :-)

[@castledomeknives9395]

another great video Mr Jake.. can't wait to see the 9103 stonewashed. PS..GIVE BANDIT SOME LUV FOR ME

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks for watching and commenting. I am looking forward to start stone washing a bunch of stuff, I really like that look a lot. Bandit loved getting his chin scratched.

[@JaredBusch]

Great review! Lots of info =) Fellow Canadian too, subscribing now ;)

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks Jared, welcome to CCE

[@Chineseknives]

Wich is smoother for opening, these o the harnds talisman?

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Tough call. I went and took out my Talisman and checked. I think the Sanrenmu is smoother, but just a bit.

[@ibanez7412]

Funny how a knife can differ from it's 'family' :) I think my Talisman is smoother, but only if I keep the lock pressed (smoother bearings). But maybe the Land has got a heavier blade because of you let it close on its own than the Land is smoother. Needless to say that I like them both very much?

[@dalecarpenter8828]

Just got one .i thought that i had ordered a steel heavy ass knife.i looked it up and it was 4 oz how was that now i see from your vid that i may have done better than i thought .

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I hope that you enjoy your blade BIG TIME when it arrives. I like mine so much that I got multiples so I could give some away as gifts. These are great folders to introduce folks to the knife hobby with.

[@dalecarpenter8828]

Canadian Cutting Edge think ill get a few as well.

[@lucianodaros]

Sebenza is a artwork, sold for a artwork price, I woud not buy one even if I could

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Cool. A lot of guys would agree with you and obviously, others disagree which is why the business is doing so well.

[@jseden]

These look great! Might get one to replace the 7010 ive carried for the past 3-4 years..

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

They also have a size inbetween the 7010 and the 910x. I did a review of the 8103: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3O7YpqJdpyYqZo It's cool that they made so many options.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Oh, the 8103 and 8104 are very hard to find, I guess they didn't make very many, I don't know if any store still has them. There may be some here: www.aliexpress.com/item/32920764170.html

[@jseden]

Canadian Cutting Edge thanks for the info. I'll look around but worst case, I missed out and my 7010 will keep it's place.

[@tyliful]

been waiting for this review.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

And now your wait is over. Is the review ok? Or should I have ignored the fact that I did the 910Pro and just done a full-fledged review of the 9103 and 4 as if the 910Pro never existed?

[@tyliful]

I think most people like full new review of the knife.

[@theplasticdesert2408]

You can afford a Sebenza, you just don't want one that's all. And that's fine. You have more than $400 worth of folders but it's a choice we all have to make: do I want one sebenza or twenty Ganzo (for example). Just ordered ^^^ so looking forward to it. You know if gearbest actually ships it.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Yes, we can all afford just about anything if we phrase it that way. I will readily admit that Chris Reeves makes AWESOME knives, no doubt there at all. I am sorry Matt, I am not sure what you are saying with that last sentence...

[@theplasticdesert2408]

Canadian Cutting Edge gearbest seems to take its time is all. Nothing negative.

[@sae1095hc]

Bearings, 12C27 and internal milling of the frame, means to me, that they're really trying to produce good knives.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

EXACTLY. All that quality and work and then it is sold for $15USD. Hard to believe but I am so happy that it's true.

[@michaelrm10]

I purchased this knife based purely on your enthusiasm.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Did you get it yet, or just placed the order when you watched it? I think you will like it quite well, at least I hope so

[@michaelrm10]

Canadian Cutting Edge Ordered it. haven't received it yet. Looks like a great knife.

[@pablowhite9382]

Im waiting for my satin wersion :) Thx GearBest and you Jake :) Good clip :)

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I think you will be quite happy when your knife arrives Pablo!! I like everything about this knife.

[@pablowhite9382]

For me this knife is superb !! Big wersion Sanrenmu 710 :) I love my sanrenmu 710

[@richardhogg8707]

Been sitting on this concern since I got the 910+ to see if anyone else brought it up, but to no avail. I have a 9103 and a 910+. It seems like the butt of the blade makes only the tiniest bit of contact with the stop pin. My concern is that over a relatively short period of frequent use this connection could wear down to the point where the blade will just swing past the stop pin. Is my concern misguided?

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

That is a VERY GOOD question!!! I can see how you came to wonder about this. I have had 4 of these knives go through my hands (2 for me, 2 as gifts). I carry mine a fair but, but not as my genuinely EVERY day carry. I have gone back and checked both of mine. and the contact point between the blade and the pin is about 1mm down from the corner where the blade tang turns. In other words, it has 100% solid contact between the pin and the blade. I can READILY see how it LOOKS like it is precarious but the physics of the design is spot on. I have NEVER had a tang of any blade (in any folder) move even 1/4 of a mm in relation to where it contacts the stop pin. While the tolerances look like they could fail relatively easily I don't think there is any genuine risk of the failure you can envision. I believe this is a case of a design that didn't take PERCEPTION into consideration enough. It easily looks precarious.

[@richardhogg8707]

Thanks for the reply! Perception is definitely wonky here. I just envision flicking the blade and having it swing around and smack the back of my hand. I guess I'll continue to use the knives without worry! They really are very nice knives. I wish Sanrenmu would put some of these touches on the 7010 (Sandvik, bearings, maybe even some G10).

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

14C28N would be great on both the 910x and 7010 knives. The other main thing I would change on the 7010 is the pocket clip, make it at least a 2 way, or better a 4 ways clip.

[@richardhogg8707]

Ooo, yeah, forgot about tip-up carry!

[@francescomotolese4644]

i love stonewash make steel smooth same glass and cool.great choice

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Exactly. I don't know how banging stones into a piece of steel can make it feel super smooth, but it does, and I like it.

[@sarge1231]

The Sanrenmu has 1 thing in common with CRK, they have become known for their high quality. I love some of the Ganzo's also, but disassembly of them reveals poor quality hardware. Not so with the Sanrenmu knives...even the screws seem to be of high quality. The Ganzo's offer more variety in the EDC carry knives, especially in the 3+ inch knives, but the Sanrenmu fit and finish, and quality of hardware is in a different class than Ganzo in my opinion. Matter of a fact, Sanrenmu is at least on par with the Chinese built Spyderco knives. As a matter of fact, the materials used on the Sanrenmu might lag behind the USA made Spyderco...cheaper steel. The fit and finish of the Sanrenmu is as good as Spyderco USA in my opinion. None of my Sanrenmu knives have had any flaws that made it past quality control. The green G10 copies went up today on gearbest to $15.55, the blackwash and black G10 models are both $13.99 today. Prices seem to change constantly.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I hear you with the Ganzo's, they used to have decent hardware but that went downhill right around the time they started doing the blue hardware on the Firebird line (in my experience anyway). Sanrenmu is the company that Spyderco hired to make their "Made in China" knives like that Tenacious etc. I checked again today and the Sanrenmu LAND 910+ in green is still $9.99, but you don't see it unless you go all the way to the item page, and not just search results pages. Sanrenmu is my favourite Chinese knife company these days. I liked Ganzo more for a little while, but that was before Firebird. I wish they would be a bit more original and not just G10 in 3 colours and CF on G10. those 4 options cover 95% of their knives, well they do have some wood. It's time to make some greater variety by them. I like Y-START a lot, but they don't have much volume yet, they need to expand. GearBest is definitely always changing their prices so if a price seems a bit high then just wait, there is a good chance it will come down.

[@sarge1231]

Yes...I always check prices on the item page...they only went up to 15.55 for 1 day before again dropping to 9.99.

[@Mpafanai46]

Great review, keep it up👍

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks, will do!

[@stevebantersb]

well, i got the 9104 and 3 from gearbest. 12c27, holds an edge way better than i thought. i would dare to say, better than 14c28n.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

14C28N is an updated version of 12C27 so it seems odd that your experience would be that way. BUT, it could be that the mfr who prepared the knife that you have in 14C28N may have done a poor job with heat-treatment. That brings up one of the challenges of evaluating knife steels. It's not just about the steel that the knife maker starts with. they could start with a GREAT steel but screw it up big time by doing a terrible heat treatment, and then another company (like Ganzo) can take a basic steel like 440C and because they have dialed in their heat treatment process they end up with some quite good cutting edges, better than one would usually expect from that steel. In any case. The Sandvik steels are better than their budget price might lead folks to believe.

[@floesh-408]

Thanks just ordered the satin 9103

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I believe that you will be very happy with it once it arrives.

[@majorpain1251]

Like the knife but not the thumb stud. It's tapered so much my thumb slips off frequently.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I do wish it was a bit bigger too. I didn't have any problems with it when I was testing it but I have heard the same issue from a few other people since I posted the video and I understand how it can be an problem for some.

[@lenzielenski3276]

Despite your best efforts...it doesn't sound overly objective.

[@Lifeisawheelie]

At around the one minute mark you said "a gain" like a true brit :'D Been waching too much nash rathbone lately eh? XD me too!

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

It's the Canuck part of me that has a bit of English left in me. We became our own country 150 years ago but those Brits are still influencing how we talk.

[@Domini0nRock]

The thumb studs are painted, not anodized (tiny chip came off mine) Nice review otherwise, i'd pay 50$ for these, they're so nice.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks for that comment. I will double check the thumb studs. I have been wrong before and it will happen again. Thankfully I have no problem admitting mistakes. AT $50, I agree, they would still be a good deal.

[@stitchmywoundz17]

Have it love it and will always buy again if lost or gifted ;)

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I feel the same way

[@ArturoFalco]

Nice review

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thank you

[@dougbulldog9947]

I agree Sandvik steel is great.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

The next step is for them to use 14C28N instead, that would make it go from very good to most excellent.

[@dougbulldog9947]

I haven't used 14C28 but Buck's 13C26 on the Avid is my favorite steel. I prefer it to the S30v for edc& have no rust issues in our humid climate. unlike 8Cr13 which goes rusty the second day out of the box.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I dont have any of the 13C28, will need too. It is so dry here in Alberta that even carbon steel doesn't need too much extra attention.

[@joep5337]

I love the Sanrenmu Pro which your video review persuaded me to buy. These knives look terrific. I will do my best to resist adding these to my collection, but your video is weakening my resolve. I'm like an addict who hears his drug of choice calling him, calling, calling....

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I hear you Joe. I am both a pusher and a user myself.

[@dalecarpenter8828]

Looks like a sabenza 25 blade on a 21 handle . I wpuld feel pretty not smart if i bought a $50.-$100 knife for $600.00 or better .the only thing that isny crazy about buying a sabenza is that right now some one will give you almost as much as you threw away to buy it .for now .but what's going to happen when the crazy is over .dont get me wrong if you like it that much go for it.but the perfect knife thing or that it better than many other is nuts .

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

These are definitely Sabenza inspired, BIG TIME! There seem to be a lot of people who have lots of money to spend on expensive knives. I say let them buy the Sabenzas and other expensive knives, I am going to buy knives that cost a LOT less but are only a bit lower in quality. These 9103 and 9104 knives sure feel great and they cut great and that is the main thing in my mind. I don't need a big brand name for status, so Sanrenmu is good for me.

[@WaschyNumber1]

I can't open my with one finger, only with 2 and than its very smooth. I can't flip it no chance.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Have you lubricated the pivot or adjusted the pivot yet? If not, try that.

[@WaschyNumber1]

Canadian Cutting Edge hello, yes i had done it, oil it moved it, but no chance to open it with one finger :-( maybe it's something wrong with my version :-(

[@Teddy-ot7bz]

Great vid im going to buy this also

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I stand by that recommendation even moreso now than I did when I made the video.

[@Teddy-ot7bz]

Canadian Cutting Edge thank you very much your videos help get the best bang for your buck i appreciate the reply

[@Stealth1983sh]

I saw after hard work frame went on 50 % heel of blade

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I am not sure what you are saying. Do you mean where lockup point? That can happen because if a person puts some hard pressure on the blade, on ANY frame lock or liner lock knife. What happens is that while cutting hard you actually flex the lock open farther than it normally sits and the lock bar moves to fill the gap that is created. I could do a video that explains how that happens better than I can explain it in words. But I am 100% convinced that this is not a problem with this knife design (but it may be a problem with your specific knife), it is something that happens to every frame lock and liner lock to one degree or another. Sanrenmu makes very great quality knives. Just so you know, I don't get any free knives from Sanrenmu, in fact they don't even answer my emails anymore, so I would tend to be upset with them more so than try to make them sound better than they are, and I am sure this isn't a design flaw of the knife. Every knife company makes the odd lemon, perhaps yours is one of those few.

[@Stealth1983sh]

Sanrenmu very nice knifes , i have 7063 and 7010, i told about one video where i saw some problem with frame after some work, if intrest a can will give link on video, because i dont now english and me hard explane that i mean, one more sorry for my leanguage.

[@ernestotsr5707]

I hope the satin one was a stonewash !

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

It would be great if they made a regular stonewash one, but since they don't I will have to make it myself.

[@dalecarpenter8359]

Going to get the 910

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Nice choice

[@dalecarpenter8828]

Its closer to an inkosi large but not full size.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Yes, I think you are right.

[@SHADOW-ke6xz]

yeah look I like your channel man because your not afraid to review Chinese knives but I've seen some blatened knock off like this one that's a Chris reeve design and honestly without sounding like a snob that shits wrong man

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I hear you. My personal position is that I am against anyone putting a brand on a knife that doesn't belong to them. If these knives had Sabenza on them or CR's logos I would be against them. I don't think that these knives effect Chris Reeve's bottom line at all, I think that consumers who buy this knife are not the same folks who would spend hundreds of dollars on the Chris Reeve knives. It's two different demographics of knife collectors. Though there are many knife collectors that start with budget stuff like Sanrenmu and work their way up to Chris Reeve and Spyderco and Zero Tolerance... When i did an honest evaluation I find that every knife has copied certain elements of some other knife, it's just the way it is, and that goes for pretty much all products. So the question is where do I draw the line? how much copying is okay and how much is too much? I asked my self those questions and came up with drawing the line for myself at the logos. I am against anyone saying that their knife is a brand name knife when it is a knock off. In this case Sanrenmu clearly puts their brand on the knives. Nobody who can read will think that they are getting a Sabenza. Not like most of the knives on eBay and many other vendors where they are not only knock offs but they are actually clones - pretending to be what they are not - that I am against. I respect guys who draw the line for themselves in a different place.

[@franksimpson9039]

thanks for the review ,sounds like a great `poor man`s ` sebenza . i ordered 1 of each from gearbest ------

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks for watching Frank. You are right on. The genuine Sabenza is a GREAT knife, in all its variations, but some of us will never be able to have one. I am so glad that this FINE alternative is available.

[@obliviontactical7974]

Good review. I'll sub to help you out

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Thanks for the sub. I will be doing something special for getting to 2000 subs, but I won't have time until September.

[@helenm1951]

great knife for the money

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Totally agree, I have given this knife as a gift to several friends and family members.

[@helenm1951]

I just ordered 2 more cant find another folder for 24$ cdn w this quality

[@dalecarpenter8359]

Have 2 9103 s and the 9104

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Cool

[@repro7780]

Clone definition from Merriam-Webster: "one that appears to be a copy of an original form". Well, this is a clone. They don't infinge on copyright stuff by putting CR on it, but its a clone with their own name on it just the same, IMHO.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

Webster is using clone and copy as synonyms - not very helpful in the context of these knife reviews. On CCE you will consistently hear me use the terms in the following way and I will never change the use. I make my use of the terminology in question clear so that people can watch any video of mine and they will always get the words used the same way. CLONE: To me a knife clone is one where the maker tries to trick the consumer that the item is by one company when it is not by them at all. COPY: In my use a copy is a knife that may look a lot like another knife but it doesn't use the brand names or model names of the original.

[@repro7780]

@@CanadianCuttingEdge blog.knife-depot.com/never-buy-counterfeit-knives/ A Note on Terminology Clones, knockoffs, counterfeits, homages. What’s the difference? All of these terms are typically used to mean one of two things. A knife passed off as the real thing. A counterfeit knife is one that looks exactly like the real thing - with branding, all the design elements, and even packaging information - but is not from the actual company. A knife that steals designs from another model. If it looks like a Spyderco, functions like a Spyderco, but is called an Arachnidco, it’s a stolen design. It may not have the branding of the original but it may be a heavily borrowed design. This is not necessarily a counterfeit knife, but the effects are the same.

[@ChuckBeefOG]

It looks familiar because its a ripoff of a CRK Sebenza.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

It most definitely is clearly inspired by the Sebenza.

[@kidbach]

like you expect us to believe you only want us to buy one knife. ;-) the black version is calling my name. i wonder if i could actually get away with .3"? hmmm...

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

It all depends on the cop on duty. You could be in a load of trouble or not so much.

[@francescomotolese4644]

🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

It is indeed a sick pair of knives :)

[@sic22l]

Did your 9103 also had such scratches when it came to you? i.imgur.com/Aj4wsgJ.jpg i.imgur.com/kHWPi6r.jpg

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

No, mine have a nice stonewash. I have bought 4 of them already (gifts for family and friends) and none of them have the kind of scratches that yours show in those pictures. That is sad :(

[@tom_olofsson]

Cut towards your buddy and not your body.

[@CanadianCuttingEdge]

I don't always listen to my own advice. :(