Reviewing a Very Confident Papal Apologist (

[@adrianwhyatt594]

Starts after 1:12

[@Death2Compromise]

Saying Sts Peter and Paul are the ones who founded the Church is a pretty wild statement.

[@ascender144k]

so much confidence with so many words, and yet nothing even approaching the promised "silver bullet"

[@kevrla]

I so pray that you debate this young man and lead him to the truth of Orthodoxy.

[@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics]

I'd try to be nice. I feel bad for him

[@mythologicalmyth]

15:55 Wanting to skip over. Let me guess: it’s out of context. I’ll keep watching.

[@mythologicalmyth]

@@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics yes please do. That way we can condescendingly laugh at you if you have confidence and then lack it for a minute. Wack Mediocrity. 🔨⏰

[@mythologicalmyth]

@@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics and when you’re done. Debate me. You won’t get away with condescending ad hominem.

[@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics]

@@mythologicalmyth I thought you were Orthodox. What would be the topic? We can set up a debate in no time flat!

[@atomiclead8647]

“I’ll take a large Formula of Hormisdas, a Potiorem Principalitatem shake, and a St. Cyprian, hold the context.”

[@mythologicalmyth]

You need “context” from an explicit and concise statement. 🥱

[@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics]

@@mythologicalmyth why you fear context

[@mythologicalmyth]

@@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics Ebonics is so 90’s.

[@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics]

@@mythologicalmyth why no understand

[@tekfunk6299]

Where is that picture? Serbia, Romania?

[@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics]

No idea, it was free

[@hmldjr]

Why did none of the other Patriarchs agree with the patriarch of Rome if he was the head of the church?

[@hll97fr16]

Same the primacy text of De Unitate is not present in all manuscript, this is basic textual criticism... Litteraly every edition of this work will indicate it.

[@latinboyyy305]

Can someone please help me find a church that Fr. Joseph approves of. I'm living in Lakeland, Florida, a city in-between Tampa and Orlando. Thank you.

[@Megas_Konstantinos]

There is a mission church in Lakeland, FL in Father Joseph's jurisdiction called "Conversion of St. Paul Orthodox Hermitage and Mission" in the Autonomous Orthodox Metropolia (if I put a hyperlink KZbin will delete the comment, so you can just search the name of the church on Google). There is also a GOC-K church in Clearwater, and a HOCNA church in Orlando.

[@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics]

You should look for a Church God approves of, not Fr Joseph! But I'm pretty sure our Fr Boniface is in Lakeland: stpaulhermitage dot com

[@mythologicalmyth]

I don’t know him but Does he come off as an excellent priest?

[@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics]

@@mythologicalmyth I am definitely the opposite of an excellent priest

[@latinboyyy305]

@@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics Father Joseph, you belong to the GOC-K correct? I'm still learning about the different old calendar jurisdictions. If you are under Bishop Kallinikos, could you defend Bishop Kallinikos against the polemic video that Archbishop Gregory of the GOCA (Genuine Orthodox Church of America, based out of Colorado) made about him. I always like to hear the other side, but I cannot find "the other side". Thank you. Also, if you know of a parish around Lakeland FL, that I should visit, please let me know.

[@hll97fr16]

I didn't get the new argument? What is the ultimate papal argument? please I need it 😭..

[@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics]

It was the old Papal argument: "he was, just like there man"

[@mythologicalmyth]

@@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics Then when confronted with explicit proof from the saints you skip or detract with condescending ad hominem. It’s sickening to see an apparent clergy of some sorts acting like this. This is what Sam Harris does, except he is sharp and collected. Chrysostom, Nicephorus, Sophronius, Cyprian, Maximus, Damascene, etc. Dozens of saints and fathers affirm St Peter as Head of the Apostles, leader of the World, and you call yourself “Orthdoox” by denigrating what Christ called blessed and exalted. He died a crucified martyr on Vatican Hill and all EO can say is “he was first a bishop in Antioch.” His feast day is divided. “He’s just another apostle.” The stupid and hate is strong in Ortho world. This is exactly like Prots defaming the Holy Virgin. Christ said he holds the keys. These are the keys to the Church. These are the keys to the Kingdom. These are the keys to the locked gates of Eden, Paradise are they not?

[@hll97fr16]

The traduction he gave of adversus haeresae 3 is a complete joke. I don't know how is it spread in anglophone country, but in latin speaking country no one will take this translation seriously. See Wladimir Guetté The Papacy for more details.

[@hmldjr]

The early fathers were all Greek and no one would read the Latin fathers

[@mythologicalmyth]

There are dozens of saints affirming succession of St Peter. As an EO I think the orthodox have a weak argument for continuing the schism. The priest being Condescending like anti-theists Sam Harris is not falsifying another’s argument. I’m EO and see the pre-schismatic Church confirms St Peter as the Head and successors must come through this One. What I can’t find is any EO rebutting the explicit in-context belief of the saints on St Peter. You actually denigrate St Peter when Christ exalted him. This is prot like when they denigrate The Holy Virgin. Accusing of context, quote-mining, and as hominem are reprehensible methods of argumentation. Michael Keroukarios is a great argument against the Greeks reacting to Cardinal Humbert’s ex-communication. Trulia publicly admitted Succession has a better argument except that he was predisposed to orthodoxy. Truglia admits St Peter succession wins when reviewing “Keys Over The Christian World.” This priest simply laughed the whole time. He also said CLARITY in prayer. The Prayer Rule goes before the schism.

[@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics]

You are not Orthodox. I'm sorry. If you believe "Orthodox are continuing the schism", all your presuppositions are already Papist.

[@mythologicalmyth]

@@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics I Am a legitimate Orthodox person. Thankfully, deacons form the “True Orthodox” organization have no say in the matter. You’re naive if you believe the East had no fault in the schism; better, delusional.

[@mythologicalmyth]

@@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics Thanks Chubby Jay Dyer! You like to abuse the words presuppositionalist papist and make fun of confident Catholics. Enough already of this melancholic mediocrity!

[@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics]

@@mythologicalmyth LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[@hmldjr]

This man smacks of homosexuality and lunacy

[@NFTUOrthodoxApologetics]

he's married with kids

[@j.knight9335]

The true and universal Church is not a collection of sects in eastern Europe and Russia. If "Orthodoxy" is the true faith, then Jesus essentially failed (an impossibility) to guide the Church to evangelize all nations.

[@gladatusbob4497]

I am Christian, not catholic or orthdox, there is no reason for Christ to set up a kingdom in this world, when His Kingdom is not of this world. The Holy Spirit calls people and He guides those who are willing to Truth. It is when Christ comes back, that He will establish His eternal kingdom.

[@Jerônimo_de_Estridão]

And back in history when the latins didn't reach other nations and the byzantines did? Were they a false church? And why you are placing an ending point in history now? Orthodoxy is not restricted to this places a long time ago. It is all over America, Australia...Also, Russia is like a huge piece of land in Eurasia where there are basically 0 papist presence. Eastern europe is a huge piece of europe (greater than western europe). There are dioceses in Japan, China, Camboja and many other places. There are missions everywhere in Africa. I'm a south american and our church is growning here by the day. Why do you restricted yourself to an especific point in history when Spain and Portugal colonize many places bringing jesuits?? This world of latin domination was over long ago. Stop living in the past.

[@DANtheMANofSIPA]

Numbers has nothing to do with what’s true or false. In the kingdom, 10 tribes fell away and only two remained true to God. During Elijah’s time there was only a tiny remnant, as was true during Athanatius’ time and St Maximos’ time. “They have the buildings, but we have the faith.”

[@Hope_Boat]

Maybe if you didn't use you human mindset and trust the revelation then you would not judge the result of the evangelisation by you human criteria. Did you miss the verse as wondering if there will be still any Christians at all on Earth for the second Parousia of the Lord? May I remind you the verse stating that few will entrer through the narrow door? May I remind you that in the book of Revelation there are two women one is hidden in the wilderness while the other is unfaithful with all the kings of the Earth and adds impurities in her chalice. The orthodox Church was bussy suffering under Islam and communism. At one point in the XXth century only on country was orthodox still. The argument of efficiency is irrelevant. That's corporate marketing not evangelisation. Kyrie eleison ☦️

[@j.knight9335]

@@DANtheMANofSIPA Irrelevant. Those people heard the truth and rejected it. Almost no one has even heard of "Orthodoxy."