137: Mike Israetel - The fallacy of Optimisation

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@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Timestamps: 00:00 Mike starts with talking about optimisation 13:06 Mike talks about down-sets for strength training 19:51 Mike brings up warning signs of negative neurotic behaviour and them becoming a habit 33:28 Furthermore he continuous speaking about how to identify find what's optimal? 43:20 Mike's take on Peri-workout 75-85% of carb intake? 46:43 Mike speaks about exercise selection when massing vs. cutting
@Gongchiu
@Gongchiu 6 жыл бұрын
Wow Steve! I just started watching this video and the first part of the podcast where you guys are talking about optimisation and what's manageable is just so key. In my job as a clinician and having a chat to people about exercise, getting the initial consistency and making things doing is so important. Laying that groundwork and foundation before moving towards optimality is so important!
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
@@Gongchiu aaaabsoluty! Happy to hear that it resonated with you! - Pascal
@semiephemeral9
@semiephemeral9 6 жыл бұрын
So Steve in another video with you and Mike (on the couch series) Mike said that dropping weight just to get more volume is a bad idea. Isn't this essentially the same thing as doing down sets? How is this not "junk volume"? Jared talked about it in one of his video's, so I'll concede I'm probably missing something here. Off to rewatch that. But I'd like to hear your thoughts.
@jsmithes
@jsmithes 6 жыл бұрын
I was sad because it remembered I have to drive 3.5 hours this morning, but then I remembered I had this ❤
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, hope you had a good trip ;) - Pascal
@NinaT940
@NinaT940 6 жыл бұрын
OMG how good is Mike! Raw,honest, knowledgeable and some choice language bombs to raise a giggle 😂
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
He is so authentic! - Pascal
@Huffman_Tree
@Huffman_Tree 6 жыл бұрын
Stimulus/fatigue-ratio... Another epiphany by Dr. Mike. Just like the volume landmarks, it's something that many experienced lifters have thought about in a clouded and vague manner, but Mike brings these concepts to paper with precision and sharpens them into powerful tools that we can all benefit from. Thank you for another great episode!
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! It baffles me when people bash him for these concepts. They are not new, he just made it comprehensible and a metric to track. - Pascal
@javaguru5160
@javaguru5160 6 жыл бұрын
Dr. Mike should go on the Joe Rogan podcast....
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
I second that! - Pascal
@logand5996
@logand5996 6 жыл бұрын
Andy Galpin and Layne Norton were on so why not? Also Mike doing BJJ would give them more to talk about than just lifting. And the use of shrooms... Yea the more I think about it he'd be a great guest
@Chaosdude341
@Chaosdude341 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed! He should also go on Sam Harris's. I know Mike's interested, but we, as fans, have to talk to Joe and Sam and voice our requests.
@segason6
@segason6 6 жыл бұрын
If I ever get to train legs with Mike, I’m going to put 2x the plates, do quarter reps and when I’m done, I’m going to walk to him and say, “Damn! I’m so much stronger than you yet I’m not as big. Isn’t that weird?”
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
He'd love that - Pascal
@ErnstEric
@ErnstEric 6 жыл бұрын
Can really relate to having “anxiety” about if I was training optimally...great episode, my biggest takeaway: simply trust in yourself that you understand the information, and also don’t be afraid to utilize your own experience based on what works with your body.
@grizzlymanverneteil4443
@grizzlymanverneteil4443 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, ill psych myself out over minuscule crap doing that
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
I can't deny, that I don't get caught up in minuscule things as well every once in a while - Pascal
@grizzlymanverneteil4443
@grizzlymanverneteil4443 6 жыл бұрын
This weekend i was finishing off with a monster set of shrugs. I had to change the bar out for the one i used last week because i thought the different aggression levels of knurling would through off my progression and either make me over train or make my traps regress. That was stuuuuuupid of me lol.
@theodoreroosevelt6584
@theodoreroosevelt6584 6 жыл бұрын
Hell yes I needed this!!! I found your channel a few days ago and have been listening to all of these and have opened my third eye to entirely new way of designing my programming and training. You guys are fucking hilarious and I find the videos really cool! Please keep them coming.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Welcome Theo! You have plenty to listen to and we will continue, that's for sure ;) - Pascal
@Stuarttombros
@Stuarttombros 6 жыл бұрын
Every podcast with mike is gold
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
And he's only getting better - Pascal
@TheFrankHuda
@TheFrankHuda 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man I just found your channel a dozen videos ago, been binging on everything Israetel.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 5 жыл бұрын
There's plenty for you to discover :) - Pascal
@gpness
@gpness 6 жыл бұрын
Just binge watching these podcasts. They're gold, Jerry, GOLD
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Slowly we stack up on a lot for you ;) - Pascal
@gpness
@gpness 6 жыл бұрын
@@ReviveStronger appreciate it, Coach!
@The10Daniel10
@The10Daniel10 6 жыл бұрын
For some reason I didn't get the notification today. So I went to the channel and oh my, a new episode...with Mike! What an awesome surprise! Thank you guys, the episode is fantastic!
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Does this happen again? Damn, anyway, we always put it out. - Pascal
@The10Daniel10
@The10Daniel10 6 жыл бұрын
@@ReviveStronger yeah KZbin is super annoying lol. Luckly, it's part of my Saturday routine already so I never forget :)
@torbit
@torbit 6 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this thanks Steve and pascal! I see Dr Mike and I immediately watch
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Tessa, you know your support is always appreciated :) - Pascal
@dezukaful
@dezukaful 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite combo Steve and Mike !
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Always there for you ;) - Pascal
@FacelessProjects
@FacelessProjects 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the difficulty of measuring a variables’ impact on performance or muscle growth is inversely proportional to the magnitude of the effect that it could have. The unveiling of the his “stimulus-fatigue ratio” theory was also a great framing when developing a programme.
@cussyrichards6121
@cussyrichards6121 6 жыл бұрын
The discussion Mike goes into at 16mins is why I'm not sure about those who theorize that the 2-3 reps closest to failure in a set of ANY rep number are the only 'effective' reps (and the reps that preceded it are just the junk volume necessary to get to that state of fatigue). Because, if you think about it, that would mean a set of 12 reps at 2 RIR (3 'effective' reps + 9 'junk' reps) is the same volume as a set of 3 reps at 2 RIR (3 'effective' reps + 0 'junk' reps). There would be no need to drop the load to get more reps per set in order to increase volume because doing a set of 3 reps would be identical volume to doing a set of 12 reps. We all know that is NOT identical volume, therefore It is probably the case that, in a set of 12 reps, ALL 12 of those reps contribute somewhat to the generation of hypertrophic stimulus
@davethedm
@davethedm 6 жыл бұрын
Training near your 5 RM is vastly more fatiguing than training near your 15 RM. Your recovery across the mesocycle would not be the same.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Mostly, it has something to do with fibre recruitment. At higher intensity, all fibres are most likely to be involved from the get-go. So 12 reps will probably still give you something but not to the same extent from rep 1. - Pascal
@cussyrichards6121
@cussyrichards6121 6 жыл бұрын
@@ReviveStronger Pascal, did the Revive Stronger Facebook group close down or relocate? Can't seem to find it...
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
@@cussyrichards6121 still there. Called revivestronger.com :) On the phone otherwise I'd link it :)
@14SoccerLee
@14SoccerLee 6 жыл бұрын
The fatigue you will accumulate from doing sets of 3 is far more than doing the traditional 8-15ish range. When taking stimulus to fatigue ratio into consideration, it becomes very clear why we can now recommend that 8-15 is a practical rep range from a hypertrophy standpoint. You will simply be able to accumulate much more hypertrophy versus doing sets of 3.
@John-e2x8z
@John-e2x8z 6 жыл бұрын
Great as always Steve.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a tonne John! - Pascal
@reptogain5248
@reptogain5248 6 жыл бұрын
This is phenomenal
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
You bet it is! - Pascal
@jeremyw4858
@jeremyw4858 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job! Thanks for the golden nuggets!
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a tonne Jeremy! - Pascal
@Low_pH
@Low_pH 6 жыл бұрын
Love me some Dr. Mike
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Me too! - Pascal
@michellematthews5345
@michellematthews5345 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode, thanks Steve!
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Michelle! - Pascal
@icejumperke
@icejumperke 6 жыл бұрын
Damnit, squad was on the road 😖 Anyway: I’m here now, and eagre to learn! 🙌 Thank you for this interview, guys! - Wezz 💪
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
What is going on man... - Pascal
@icejumperke
@icejumperke 6 жыл бұрын
@Eugene Stoner - You might as well call yourself Eugene Stalker 😂 GAAAAAAAAINZ BRO 😂
@icejumperke
@icejumperke 6 жыл бұрын
@Eugene Stoner - hahahaha, true! 😂 gainz = life, life = GAAAAAAINZ 💪
@DeltonJohn
@DeltonJohn 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, love your channel! How and when can we buy tickets for the uk conference?
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
We'll announce the start of the ticket sale big time :) - Pascal
@relentlessvegeta
@relentlessvegeta 6 жыл бұрын
COOL THANKS
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks and good to see you around! - Pascal
@grizzlymanverneteil4443
@grizzlymanverneteil4443 6 жыл бұрын
Ima watch this in 2 days. Saturdays arent an optimal time for learning.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
I will delete it tomorrow then ;P - Pascal
@icejumperke
@icejumperke 6 жыл бұрын
Pascal, don’t be an ass.. 🤦‍♂️😂
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Grizzly is a regular as well, so he knows that kind of stuff ;P
@grizzlymanverneteil4443
@grizzlymanverneteil4443 6 жыл бұрын
I'll exclusively do reverse band above the quad rack pulls for singles if you delete it lol
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
So, going to delete now, okay ;P
@itaintnothinbuttheblues
@itaintnothinbuttheblues 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video... i actually had a laugh while doing my cardio! 🤣
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Hehe, always here for your entertainment - Pascal
@ted3846
@ted3846 6 жыл бұрын
So how to get on the "E-mail list" >? Thanks for the great content.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Did we mention something about an E-mail list? :S - Pascal
@ted3846
@ted3846 6 жыл бұрын
@@ReviveStronger @ 00:56
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, here you go! bit.ly/2rRONG5
@MeZoRH
@MeZoRH 6 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how you would measure calories burned in a workout, how would you measure that.
@Chaosdude341
@Chaosdude341 6 жыл бұрын
Mike's the feckin best
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
He is! :D - Pascal
@grizzlymanverneteil4443
@grizzlymanverneteil4443 6 жыл бұрын
So I've avoided the leg press for years since Rip says its both fake and gay. I tried what Mike issezzereerestal recommended and now I've come to realise that perhaps I was the one that was fake and gay all along.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Hip draaave - Pascal
@798185xz
@798185xz 6 жыл бұрын
Start from an evidence-based approach, and respect anecdotes and individual differences.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly!! - Pascal
@nllc9779
@nllc9779 6 жыл бұрын
Steve is definitely training his neck.
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
Jeff Nippards Neck programme - Pascal
@TheGgff55
@TheGgff55 6 жыл бұрын
what does he mean by special sport supplement ?
@razvanimal8690
@razvanimal8690 6 жыл бұрын
@@BenBenjaBenjamin neah man, only D-Aspartic Acid mid-morning and Tribulus pills.
@grizzlymanverneteil4443
@grizzlymanverneteil4443 6 жыл бұрын
Dat der cell tech, kreaten and whey protons
@gamerchristina1079
@gamerchristina1079 2 жыл бұрын
👏❤️🙏
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 2 жыл бұрын
;)
@gamerchristina1079
@gamerchristina1079 3 жыл бұрын
💪💪❤️❤️‼️
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support! - Coach Jess
@tylerlegare2668
@tylerlegare2668 6 жыл бұрын
I would be OK with 80% optimal
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
I think, most do! - Pascal
@matversion2
@matversion2 6 жыл бұрын
Steak will easily get you more muscle than tilapia, it tastes better and therefore you can eat more of it and you know calories in biceps out.
@reaIitybits
@reaIitybits 6 жыл бұрын
Who is that Ido guy? he asks stupid questions ;)
@ReviveStronger
@ReviveStronger 6 жыл бұрын
We all know who he is but no one in Mordor dares talking about it - Pascal
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