2023 Suzuki GSX-8S Review | Daily Rider

[@RevZilla]

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[@ttt3377]

Hey Zack, I'm from south CA. Thanks for helping me find my perfect bike a xsr900.

[@kalnwi2023]

@@ttt3377 commiefornia

[@johnjcleland]

I thinned my herd this summer, sold a 00 ducati 996s, 02 aprilia rsv 1000 mille r, 08 suzuki dr650, 16 suzuki bandit 1250 and 06 suzuki gsxr. Bought my suzuki gsx 8s almost 2 months ago and its suprising how good it is on curved country roads, short blasts on the interstate and around town. It doesnt have top end of any of those other bikes i had but i am very happy with it, handling and power is very good for the places i ride. It does need a better seat and the tires are good but there are better ones on the market to replace them with when they get worn out. I like it enough to seriously consider getting the rumored gsx 8r in 24. Before talking trash about it and showing ignorance, ride one. You may be pleasantly surprised.

[@fazer2747]

Thanks for that feedback. How are the stock brakes? Im currently riding a 2000 Hayabusa and the brakes are scarily weak. Like really bad. It's my first Suzuki. Are they all like that or just the Busa?

[@johnjcleland]

@fazer2747 look for steel braided brake hises. They won't expand as much as rubber ones which gets more pressure into the brake calipers. Also look into different brake pads. Some pads grip the rotors better than others. Hayabusa FB groups and websites will probably have specific suggestions for you. There are probably a few youtube videos on the subject too.

[@fazer2747]

@@johnjclelandthanks yeah it actually already has stainless steel brakes lines 😂. But new pads is a good idea. How are the brakes on the 8S?

[@johnjcleland]

@fazer2747 I like them, no problems or negative criticism. Like most things, our opinions may differ. Sorry I can't be more help than that but i dont want to say they're outstanding and have you disappointed if you buy a GSX 8. It would be a great, smaller bike for around town or curvey roads but not a replacement for the power of a Hayabusa or GSXR 1000 which i am thinking about buying, while keeping my gsx8s.

[@IsntThisAStupidName]

@@fazer2747 often the brakes aren't well maintained across the lifetime of an old bike getting the seals changed isn't always enough I clean out the seal seats using a brass brush on a Dremel tool flex lead and I do it with the brakes submerged in water, I only do it if there is corrosion and only very gently to clear out any corrosion without damaging the aluminium. I usually find that the existing caliper pistons are pitted and rusty so where this has occurred I replace all the caliper pistons with 316 stainless steel ones and I typically upgrade the pads to a HH formula almost always EBC brand as they have performed well for me in the past, I do clean out the master cylinder if it is dirty and I replace the master cylinder piston if there is a lot of visible wear and grooves on the piston which would mean it has had a hard life so is a good candidate for replacement, with all these works performed the brakes are always significantly improved, I also check the runout of the discs and if they are bad I will replace them at this point as bad discs will only cause problems. Some bikes were sold with upgraded brakes in specific years so you can look to change the master cylinder and calipers over to the upgraded version although this is usually only seen on high power sports bikes its worth checking forums as sometimes there are custom carriers available to convert to larger brakes from other bikes.

[@TheCaptnHammer]

I picked up my first bike in 20 years today. It is a 2023 GSX-8S and is brand new with zero miles. What a fantastic motorcycle! The speed shifter is so nice! If you want a naked bike this one is superb!

[@TheCaptnHammer]

It’s in that gorgeous blue paint scheme.

[@HifeMan]

⁠@@TheCaptnHammerJust picked mine up today and I totally agree! Such amazing smooth bike. I had an 2018 MT-07 and I love that bike but this bike is literally better in every way. Feel like such an refined bike and I can’t wait to get it broken in! :D Enjoy it! :) Also got it in blue too and I love it!

[@TheCaptnHammer]

@@HifeMan awesome! I got the fender eliminator kit from yoshimura and it looks awesome. Check it out, it’s not expensive and easy to do. I just ordered an ODB reader and adapter for the bike so I can try to reset the service reminder myself. I just finished my 600mi service. I can do everything except throttle valve synchronization, which is really only required every 7500mi (California requires it at 600mi too).

[@donderstorm1845]

do you think it's too powerful/heavy for a first bike? i'd keep it in riding mode C or rain mode

[@TheCaptnHammer]

@@donderstorm1845 not at all. It’s a bit heavy when moving it manually but I weigh 130lbs and have no issues. I started in C mode and now use A unless it’s rainy, etc. It’s a fantastic bike. I did some upgrades. Maybe I’ll make a video featuring them

[@williamfischer3990]

I’m happy Suzuki is drastically stepping up their game recently. I honestly thought the company was going to die a slow and painful death, however props to the boys in Hamamatsu.

[@corinful]

Suzuki will never die.....Bikes are just a small proportion of their business worldwide

[@kamsa1243]

So, genuine question, how is this them stepping up their game?

[@kwicksandz]

Updating the gsxr 750 with abs, this dash and a new headlight would get my interest

[@kamsa1243]

@@kwicksandz seconded!

[@fahmiyusoff9154]

Brah.. They sell millions of super mopeds in Asia anually

[@isorides]

Very weird of suzuki to make the taillight integrated into the rear fender knowing people are going to want to take it off

[@maxzimmermann6605]

I dont know, i feel Like there are great Aftermarket Options Like Kellermann Indicators with integrated Brake-/Rearlight. With that the rear will Look great!

[@Geshmaal]

Maybe it's to get people to think twice before removing the fender and committing to getting sprayed with crap through the winter.

[@afletra]

bmw even did it with their pure flagship superbike the S1KRR and M1KRR, so it's not that weird of suzuki did with the obviously street bike.

[@maxzimmermann6605]

​@@Geshmaalwhat's Winter Like where you are, maybe Not consider a sporty Nakedbike for that. Than get the v strom

[@Geshmaal]

@@maxzimmermann6605 oh yeah I personally don't see the need for a relatively sporty naked bike in the UK, it's rainy for most of the year!

[@bobothemonkey4823]

“I’m gonna be sad to give it back” is probably the highest praise a bike could get in this show.

[@rohanes]

Viewed from the side, the 8S is strangely what I imagined the new Hornet would look like 😅

[@Daniel-dj7fh]

like the 790 duke?

[@LordOfGreatness]

​@@Daniel-dj7fhThat is just what i would say. Make it orange and it is almost the same.

[@pmudri]

It looks like MT09 and Superduke combined, not really peak creativity

[@Lord_Verminaard]

But the Hornet still looks better.... even though it's the same. 🤣

[@edwardcampbell3420]

The should of named the black one raven or crow with that beak looking front

[@ozzyg82]

Interesting to see the black version - it’s the only colour I haven’t seen much of outside the press photos. I test rode the 8S recently, after trying out the Hornet - I have to say I fell for the 8S and am hopefully picking mine up next week.

[@twowheeler1000]

What makes the 8s better than the new hornet? Specwise it seems the Honda is better (better suspension etc)

[@ozzyg82]

@@twowheeler1000 I mean, it’s close, but for me personally, I’d say the 8S has stronger low down/ usable torque for the road, it is much more stable-handling owing to the longer wheelbase and wider rear tire, the build quality, e.g. materials, welding, chassis including lighter, sculpted aluminium swing arm, etc. are a noticeably higher quality, I think it looks better, (subjective), the seat and riding position is more comfortable, comes with bi-directional quick shifter and blipper as standard, is thoughtfully designed so for instance: no need for a rear hugger, (whereas the Honda definitely throws road crud all up inside the head stock and all over the rear shock). The Suzuki had a slightly nicer quality and laid out dashboard, much neater wiring loom etc. It’s just one of those things you feel but it’s sometimes hard to say why. I think the Suzuki is a perfect example of demonstrating specs don’t make the bike, (similar to how the SV650 has hitherto demonstrated).

[@exothermal.sprocket]

What if what if what if, isn't something else better better better better? Comon people. Take them both for a ride. Spec sheet isn't going to tell you what's right for you.

[@tg8150]

One thing worth mentioning about not only this bike, but the MT-07 is that these two bikes are 100% built in Japan. No cheapo Thailand built crap here. And you bet your ass it matters.

[@gurbie]

Always look for that “J” at the front of the V.I.N. 👍

[@exothermal.sprocket]

If you as a corporation decided to outsource labor and assembly to another country, wouldn't it be in your best interest to make sure whatever happens in that other country at the factory represents the brand name you slap on those bikes?

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

Japan isnt that great if we got our act halfway together we can make bikes better than japan we have all these different states it gets crazy.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@TheAnnoyingBoss Japan is pretty great. That's not to say American ingenuity can't be greater. It cannot be greater currently because getting anything off the ground here is financially treacherous. Gubmint has made sure of that.

[@marcoluoma3770]

Thanks for another fun episode. Your comparisons to KTMs reminded me that for a “daily rider” it would be useful to talk about service intervals and cost, as well as expected reliability.

[@geertceuppens8518]

the Suzuki GSX-8S has 3750 mile / 6000 km or annual service intervals, like many other liquid-cooled Suzuki motorcycles. At every service, change the oil, and inspect or replace the spark plugs, inspect / replace the air filter, and do a host of other checks the Honda CB750 Hornet has 8000 mi / 12000 km or annual service intervals, at which the oil should be changed and a bunch of other things inspected.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@geertceuppens8518 I'm guessing the question was more along the lines of 'valve clearance check'. Otherwise, people should be servicing their bikes with a minimum of an oil and filter change every 4 to 5 thousand miles anyway.

[@langhamp8912]

@@exothermal.sprocket Valve adjustment intervals are every 15,000 miles but I personally don't bother to do valve adjustments until I hear clatter from the valvetrain. The early GSXR water-cooled engines were awful and a new one required a valve adjustment at 3500 miles. On the other hand, I've had a few Suzukis, Hondas, and BMWs that would turn over 40,000 miles with no valve noise, and a valve check and leak-down test would show nothing wrong. It might be worth it to do your own valve clearance due to how easy it is to find directions on KZbin. And a GSX8S is going to be way easier to do valve clearance than an inline four.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@langhamp8912 May be difficult to hear a few thousandths of an inch slop in a given valve bucket, and while 2 or 3 valves might be within spec according to the book, they may be more sloppy than all the rest of the valves at that point, so may as well true everything up if the head has been removed for inspection. Generally speaking, hardly anyone rides this sort of mileage on a given newer motorcycle anyway. Tons of lower mile bikes circulate through dealerships and used bike markets without that mileage.

[@langhamp8912]

@@exothermal.sprocket I usually put on about 40,000 to 60,000 miles on my motorcycles before selling them. Almost all of my miles are commuting miles, with a few trackdays here and there. So it's not a lot of miles or minutes per day but it shockingly adds up over the years. But out of spec valves are pretty easy to hear and feel. If a bike is a tad hard to start and has clatter (not the cam chain tensioner) then, yeah, it's out of spec valves. I think that over the past 30 years bike engines have gone from every 8,000 miles or 25,000 or more, if even that. But it might also be that I'll go weeks without reving a bike high and thus it's a very low stress environment.

[@norbertovillarealiii6750]

LETS GO SV650!

[@CFChristian]

Didn't know you and Ari had that kind of relationship. Very cool, heartwarming.

[@MrMaic0]

Please Zack, try the Honda Rebel 1100 manual for daily ride, it's what I'm daily riding myself and would like to hear your opinions!

[@chariflakchiri]

Zach - hypothetically, if you had both the GSX-8S and the SV650 in the garage long term, which one would you end up riding daily (commute to work, short twisty jaunts, errands around town etc) more frequently over say a year? I feel you'd be jumping on the 8S more frequently than the SV. Let us know if you disagree.

[@AddumEnied]

I test rode both this weekend, and the only thing the SV has going on for it over the 8S, in my oppinion, are the looks. And with it being a bit bigger bike, it's also more comfortable, and therefore more practical.

[@future62]

Unless your SV is prepped for track work I see zero point in having both.

[@chariflakchiri]

@@future62 It's a hypothetical question to invite Zach to rethink his daily rider ranking result ;)

[@FunniestFlicks]

I love the character and raw feeling of my sv650s. I never see myself replacing it with a gsx 8s

[@StevenSmith-js2lf]

@@future62 I have both, and my SV is prepped for track. ;)

[@DukeontheThames]

Great review as always! Btw, the screen protector on your phone is upside down

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

🙃

[@flexywing]

You are such a hero, thanks for not calling in sick.

[@bombaya85]

Would love to see the 2023 Suzuki GSX S1000 make an appearance on DR

[@alexanderi7332]

Yeah let’s push this comment so Zack will see it

[@pkbaker100]

@@alexanderi7332agreed!

[@gixxusmetalman7435]

Hes already done a review on the 2015 model,now for a review on the 18 to 23 models. Greatest 145hp fun bike for years !

[@facilis]

Oh yes please 🙌

[@ak-47821]

that would be a good idea

[@UpsideDownFork]

So glad that Suzuki made this bike and didn't just slowly die off into oblivion as many have been predicting. Zack, what camera and microphone do you use? The quality is really good compared to most others! Always love the daily rider episodes!

[@ellwoodwolf]

It’s a dud.

[@UpsideDownFork]

@@ellwoodwolf enjoy your cruiser 👍

[@uberDoward]

Zack, the dirt road section is my absolutely favorite section, but just wanted to say "thank you" for not jumping on your bad leg, man!

[@angry_ike7628]

I like the looks of the 8S much more in the white and blue. Seems like a good bike. I'm looking at one myself.

[@ellwoodwolf]

He’s complaining about the suspension at 200 lbs... that’s not good.

[@noahgoodman1237]

@@ellwoodwolfall he said was that it was soft

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@ellwoodwolf Motorcycles aren't cars where some dainty woman or some big heavy man can both get in and drive it, and it doesn't care. People actually might have to change a set of springs (not expensive) to get a bike set up for their weight. People might actually have to swap a chunk of foam out in the seat to get it to fit their posterior. None of this stuff is hard, people. It's harder finding a set of riding boots or a helmet that fits. Any modern motorcycle with USD forks and a mono-shock suspension will be able to be set up with proper aftermarket stuff. It can be fixed to your liking, from basic to top-shelf racing parts.

[@SuzukiC41]

@@ellwoodwolf 270 pounds here, I think it feels just fine, but I've also been riding a '17 V-strom 650 for the last 90k miles too

[@SuzukiC41]

I was originally looking at a grey but got the white/blue. Just finished the break-in and did my first service today. It is a blast

[@danielklopp7007]

Great content... keep up the good work Zack! RE: GSX-8S - given the current adventure bike craze, I'm guessing the V-Strom version will sell much better (and be a better daily rider on the street, despite the 21" front wheel).

[@lovelessissimo]

How would the vstrom be a better daily rider?

[@sebbwebbo7557]

@@lovelessissimo better wind protection, better suspension, comfier,...

[@danielklopp7007]

@@lovelessissimo better wind protection + better fuel range... depends on the length of your commute and what type roads.

[@deanzaZZR]

@@lovelessissimo Ability to carry more stuff

[@lovelessissimo]

@@danielklopp7007 I suppose I should have been more clear on what exactly one does on the daily. I commute on a naked bike, and it's easier to get around on than my adventure bike. I don't take things with me or ride really fast. I always think of a daily as something that gets you from a to b.

[@kirmizikulak]

Sorry about ur leg pal. Love from Turkey; take care of yourself. I like watching u

[@zero11010]

5:04 with car engines people are super pumped when a normally aspirated engine reaches 100hp per liter of engine. It’s a big deal. Most engines can’t match that. I like that with a motorcycle he mentions less than 800cc (0.76L) and about 82hp and he basically scoffs at it. I get it. My last ride was a superbike with 200hp/L with nearly 130hp in a 0.6L engine. Still, I feel like generating about 80hp is reasonable for a non performance engine! Power wise it matches what Yamaha is doing with the R7.

[@jfess1911]

I agree. 80hp was superbike level power in the 1970's. I am at a point in my life where that is plenty. Unfortunately, these days you pretty much have to move to over 900cc's to get improved suspension in a naked bike.

[@rantANDrave1987]

Zach is hard on Suzuki in general

[@awdrifter3394]

Honda achieved 120hp/L in a car in 1999 (that can last 100k miles vs 30k miles in most sports bike engines), also it only took 9000rpm to do it. This bike revs to 11k, how is it not even achieving 120hp/L?

[@nickolaslewis4416]

To be fair, CFMOTO gives you fully adjustable KYB suspension and Brembo brakes without breaking the wallet while being mid-sized. Once you get past the “Made in China” stigma, you can appreciate them as decent bikes for the 💰

[@ziondanny7081]

​@@rantANDrave1987 Except the SV650!

[@eskemeldgaardkrogh4145]

I really want Suzuki to make a GSX-8GT - THAT would be the bike for me! I want true touring capability and sporty aspirations… Honestly, the GSX-S1000GT is more power than I’d know what to do with.

[@jamiescott6811]

I couldn't agree more. I wish a that about so many bikes. We need more 19" front wheel options.

[@800over]

Cruise, a small windscreen and a better seat with some luggage options. Sell me one. But Cruise is a must.

[@eskemeldgaardkrogh4145]

@@800over Indeed - there’s no good reason not to offer cruise control when the bike has throttle by wire!

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@jamiescott6811 Well, a Suzuki V-Strom 800DE is basically 95% of the way there, but runs a 21-inch front. But me personally, I'd rather go the route that's more closely echoed with the MV Agusta Turismo Veloce. It's based on the 800 triple naked bike, but only slightly more touring oriented with a quarter fairing, a little longer travel suspension, better subframe, and more fuel range. That's all that any of these Japanese brands need to to with their excellent naked bikes to make them more touring oriented, without making them $5000 more expensive and 50 pounds heavier (I'm looking at you, Yamaha with your Tracer 9GT which is waaaaaaay too far from the MT bones for me to bother wanting one).

[@jimbossimrigs7961]

The V-Strom 800 RE is the road version, smaller wheels and shock, same engine as the 8s.

[@MrSpeed-lt8gr]

Zack I hope you can try a new Bonneville or Speed Twin. The Bonnie has been a good daily rider for me the last 5 months.

[@ONEly-uc4et]

My ‘17 Street Cup has 25k miles on it. At the time it was the best daily I could find. Would love to see how the Speed Twin 1200 stacks up against all the daily riders,

[@JasonYergin]

I think we can all just call it the 8S. Suzuki gave us a hint by putting that graphic on the little front cowling. That, and I think a lot of people are just going to call it the GSXS8 because they miss the little detail of how the digits are oriented.

[@rondobrondo]

Yeh this bike is clearly branding itself differently and telling people "HEY THIS ISN"T LIKE THE OTHER GSX BIKES THIS IS DIFFERENT" by making the 8s so prominent

[@GL0BETREKKER]

I think they did it to give it some extra credibility, I totally agree though. Just 8S would have been better

[@magellanicspaceclouds]

Kinda like the YZF-R6 is just R6.

[@Carlisho]

Petition to call it the “Gixxeight”

[@Strungrat]

@@Carlisho I like that name.

[@aaronbehindbars]

I test rode a V-Strom 800 a few days ago and really love this engine. It's smooth, punchy in the mid-range, and has a nice character. Maybe I can ride one of these, too. Looks fun!

[@scottcui8087]

Why didnt Suzuki keep the SV design and put in the 850 engine call it a Neo Retro? SVs looks much better IMO. 8s looks like every other naked bikes out there now.

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

No it sure looks unique

[@wwfww]

I appreciate that when you take these road bikes off-road you actually drift and give it some juice!

[@patw9175]

Wow it looks great in matte black actually. I hope this does well for Suzuki. It's like the GSXS750, best daily rider I ever rode. That bike didn't get its due.

[@Supernova12034]

probably because it was another recycled suzuki with a donor engine.

[@richardwarsinske7064]

100% agree! I usually don't care for bikes in matte black but the GSX 8S appearance works for me in all the color options.

[@patw9175]

@@Supernova12034 On paper, sure.

[@elliottkillick5348]

+1 for the GSXS750. I would love a comparison between that and this actually

[@patw9175]

@Patrick O'Brien wut lol

[@keving1633]

The quick-shifter is butter smooth when used at the right RPM going up or down. It takes 3 or 4 rides to get it down. But smooth sailing after that.

[@junkailin3189]

I wonder to know the headlight's performance in the night riding. Is it good? Or bad?

[@saulocpp]

For those whining about engine power and still think HP is what matters, please watch TSTIndustries video of the 8S dyno run. That flat torque curve over a huge rpm range you will only see in supercharged engines. "The suspension is not adjustable, it is missing more LED...", well, then just buy the Street Triple! Oh wait, you don't want to pay for it, right?

[@TheAnnoyingBoss]

I just hate how crap bikes are made makes me want to get into making them but thats just like a slavery nightmare man the regulator shows up complaining you have to feed the pigs

[@Sam-K]

Sad to see budget v-twins go. Sure, it has the "character" of a v-twin but let's not forget that 90-degree v-twins have perfect primary balance with a low center of gravity. So no, these parallel twins, 280-degree crank or not, are not a replacement for a "proper" v-twin.

[@maxzimmermann6605]

Problems seem to be the emissions, the rear cylinder often has to be cooled which is done by richening the fuel mixture.

[@JoshuaTootell]

​Non issue with water cooling. It's for packaging and modularity (using the same engine over several platforms ​@@maxzimmermann6605

[@ellwoodwolf]

It’s about profit margins - cheaper to make, and significantly cheaper if you make less number of different designs

[@joshuabroussard8838]

I was looking at this bike today next to the GSXS750. Struggling to see this as an upgrade.

[@silverwolfgecko7064]

I'm really interested in all the new Middleweight Bikes, Street Triple, Hornet, Gsx8s, mt-09, duke 790/890. Really looking forward to seeing them all on DR hopefully, to hear Zack's thoughts on them.

[@hellraiserrec19]

Throw the mt-07 in there too.

[@silverwolfgecko7064]

@@hellraiserrec19 realistically, I think the mt-07 competes more with the 650s, like the 650 kawas or hondas

[@hellraiserrec19]

@@silverwolfgecko7064 Yeah that makes sense

[@KapitanPisoar1]

@@silverwolfgecko7064 MT07 is direct competition to the new Hornet and 8S, 650kawa as they all make around 70-80hp. MT-09 sits above them as it makes 40 more horses...

[@RobDaKid87]

Me too

[@rico_cavalierie]

This is a real head-turner. Where I live the insurance has size classes; 110 to 400, 400 to 750, 750 to 1100 and another one for anything bigger. Plastic fairings gets another tick too. It turns out 750 to 1100 cc is the most expensive to insure. It's not that I'm cheap, I just watch what I spend money on. I would pay almost double the insurance due to being 26ccs into the dreaded 750 to 1100cc range...

[@lynnlittle8671]

I just bought a 2023 SV650, so glad I did... My other bike is a 2021 Yamaha MT-09, so I have the bases covered.

[@jimbo1485]

Hey Lynn how come you got a sv650 when you already have the MT09 Gen 3 which I have been told are awesome

[@ozzyg82]

I personally think it de-thrones the much older SV650. I owned that bike for 7 years and loved it, but the 8S just has the power and punch to put a bigger smile on your face. Let’s say, the 650 is top of the leader board, if it’s your first big bike, but the 8S is better if you’re not new to riding.

[@ellwoodwolf]

So you would spend 10.5 out the door just to get 15hp ? And not think to yourself “hey there are plenty of low mileage, almost new motorcycles with a power bump and MUCH BETTER SUSPENSION”

[@LogicalQ]

I don’t like that the TFT just sticks out. Cleaning bug guts off that is gonna suck. Hopefully it remains waterproof.

[@mattwilliams7454]

Yeah little fly screen would be good to protect it.

[@jbearbear6503]

Screen goes to night mode under the bridge 5:15

[@ether7118]

I’m really excited about this new engine Suzuki made. I hope they make a non de version of the Vstrom 800. Where it has a 19 inch front wheel and tubeless tires, non spoked for road focused riding.

[@charlesbrown9863]

I agree!!

[@pkbaker100]

Yes please!

[@SuzukiC41]

This comment aged well. They've got one out now

[@lacrossev]

As a lover of wierd headlights (FZ-10 owner), I love the overall design of this bike.

[@smcd5772]

2023 MT10 here 😂 king of the wacky headlights. (I also liked the lights on the GSX-S1000) An aquired taste for sure.

[@rayhan4502]

@@smcd5772 the only problem is the lamp only turn on one sided cause the other lamp is for high beam

[@smcd5772]

@Ray Han aware, thanks though

[@DARKM4TTER3]

I was worried the 8S would dethrone my 2022 sv650. I ride it to work every day. Glad to see it still on top if for a couple more weeks at least. I'm not worried tho 😅

[@hex_surfer4588]

Anyway new GSX8S still needs to walk the same path than SV650 - being polished and refined during years to perfection. SV it's a classic bike made with modern standards - it's part of SV's charm.

[@kamsa1243]

Oh na if you have an SV650 you're keeping it.

[@antoniorios3856]

I just love the look if this bike compared to other naked bikes, MT-07 and this are so close to call.

[@dvhamme]

You mentioned at 13:50 that you can tune the quickshifter in the menu, maybe you could add more blip that way? I'd be interested to find out if this makes it more to your liking, because the quickshifter is maybe the #1 reason I'm considering this bike.

[@Rickmac22]

Zack! I just bought A TON of gear on RevZilla...! How about a Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx review...?

[@eugenebarron692]

I have a dr650 I’m looking at the 800s as possible a second bike but trying to decide if I shouldn’t just get the vstrom 800de and just have one bike.

[@karlfonner7589]

I think you could help RevZilla a lot by showing the gear you’re wearing as well. That jacket looks nice!

[@MichaelZhao-sz6sz]

Very keen to see more comparisons with this and the new Honda CB750 Hornet

[@tsuthebasa]

There is a mcn comparison about it...

[@JelloThatsMellow]

The UK magazines preferred the Suzuki. Better low down torque and similar engine character to the sv650, and the suspension is firmer for harder riding. Plus the weight and chassis felt more stable compared to the twitchy hornet.

[@monco3512]

There's also two comparison tests from Austrian magazines where it came out on top against the Hornet, Duke 790, Trident, MT-07 and so on. Consensus seems to be the Hornet and 790 have better top end but the 8S does everything else better.

[@louislopez55]

I’ve ridden at least three bikes with the 270 degree P-twin and they all had vibration at highway speeds. He mentioned vibration starting at 75mph, the speed limit where I live is 75, but many drivers do 80+ so here’s another machine that would be uncomfortable to ride. The 650 V-Storm has a little vibration at higher speeds, but its more because the engine is working hard, not because it isn’t balanced. But I would be willing to give this bike, or the new V-Storm 800 a try, if only the dealers in my area allowed test rides.

[@GL4SS_20]

Have you tried the Triumph Trident 660 or Honda CD650r yet? Much smoother than the Twins.😊

[@sugarandt]

I’m sensitive to vibrations and one of my bikes is an FZ-07, but haven’t been bothered at those speeds, there might be some variation in individual bikes. Zach is also known for liking to gear up bikes. It would probably only cost $30-$40 dollars to gear it up one tooth on the countershaft sprocket to eliminate that issue.

[@sugarandt]

Just my opinion, but I hate the higher frequency vibes from traditional inline fours, like the S1000R that I owned. Although I’ve had 3 Street Triple R’s, as well as 3 FZ-09’s and loved those engines.

[@ellwoodwolf]

P-twins are manufacturers dream , not riders dreams - they keep trying to sell them - had 2 - never having a 3rd

[@toddsorel-pg4hr]

I would be interested to see if you would put the GSX-8R above the SV650. Perhaps the added suspension, ergos, and styling refinements of the faired version would help dethrone the venerable SV.

[@beaumas]

I've always felt that suzuki is the best bang for your buck bikes. They have no frills and just work, sure they might not be as refined as some of their counterparts but they're always cheaper too.

[@dtogo4286]

I dont like transformer mandibles in the front or the tail. I would prefer more traditional headlight with a little more wind protection.

[@dreaminginink2029]

How is the Trident 660 not the superior daily? Great tech and excellent sound and punch from the triple.

[@FrotoMoto]

And it's msrp is less. The Trident has more tech, better power and lighter.

[@dreaminginink2029]

@@FrotoMoto Exactly! It’s the best beginner on the market imo

[@Jfrye1997]

Currently riding a cb500f I got this year , any thoughts as to if this is an upgrade

[@lawrencesommaesq.9944]

I like the blue version … this is the best looking of all the mid size naked bikes. A bit heavy though? An R version would make me much more interested … better suspension, lighter and perhaps better brakes. Then we wouldn’t have to put up with KTM Duke spotty reliability and service.

[@rondobrondo]

I am extremely interested to see how this bike and the hornet compare with the new Duke 790. The new Duke 790 weighs 7% less than the 8s, but makes 10% more torque, and a whopping 28% more horsepower

[@lovelessissimo]

But lacks Japanese reliability and parts availability when needed.

[@nickolaslewis4416]

In day to day riding and not back to back comparing, I think you would enjoy either bike equally. Go for the one that best fits your budget and has the most appeal for you and your needs.

[@jfess1911]

Max torque is not really a useful number, especially if it is reached at an engine speed well above those typically used. The main comment I have heard in other 8s reviews is that its high-torque band begins at lower rpms and continues up well through the midrange that is typically used in normal riding. This was apparently very noticeable at the launch on twisty mountain roads since it was possible to power through tight twistys without needing to change gears in the turn.

[@skyline9099]

@@jfess1911 I own a 790 and can assure you it's the same story- pulls hard from 3-5k, pulls harder from 6-10k (there is a pretty bad torque dip from 5-6 but we try to ignore that.) I think performance wise the 790 will edge ahead in just about every category, but the lower price point for a very similar (and more reliable) experience out of the gsx-8s is what makes it competition.

[@joshuaguidry6428]

I have an 890 duke and I have to say I paid 9K at the dealer with a few incentives and freaking love the bike, especially after exhausting tune. It truly is a torque monster I don’t get the whole reliability concerns on them. I’m a fan of Japanese bikes, but they are all over the place. It’s not often you see ktm on the street.

[@damon1957ful]

My quick shifter is brilliant and works faultless up and down, ride is plush and complint, love it i have no vibation at any revs, and have toured over wales and the rear mud guard i have changed to a tail tidy wich cleans up the back end, the best engine is the best twin ever more usefull on the road

[@daveyt4802]

Are these at the dealers now? Seems like left coast only...

[@sugarandt]

Zack rode a pre-production bike.

[@ZinoAmare]

I rode this bike two weeks ago, and it Liked it alot, Torque is awesome on this thing, I was fairly comfortable on it :D

[@kimw200blaze4]

Yes, it needs an after market pipe to "spice" up it's note. The Quickshifter is not an deal breaker, as I wouild not use it on downshifts anyway. And I would not use it, at an slower speed, such as riding around town. It would only be used on the freeway or Highway with upshifts at high RPMs. It makes the Mt 07 look like an old bike...Lol

[@vanveen8472]

I intensly dislike all the electronic modes, I don't even like them in my car, I will ride my old GS as long as I can, I even bought a DRZ just because it doesn't have anything

[@robedmunds7163]

Can we have a few more UJMs now please. My old GS550 is good to commute on, can pack it up and go motocamping, it is big and comfortable.

[@marinusk67]

Not so long ago the engine of a motorcycle whas made to look good. What went wrong ??

[@kevinburke4696]

Thinking about getting a bike. Got it norrowed down to honda cb500x(thanks to your showcase), tuono 600, and kawasaki ninja 600. But I just discoveted bmw rhine t cafe racer. Any chance of doing a breakdown segment on this 1.

[@ozzyg82]

Re: the price difference between the Hornet and the 8S - in my opinion, I think it’s not a direct comparison, i.e. Honda were aiming at creating an MT07-beater and they built their bike to a price in order to do so, (and arguably succeeded on that design brief). When you ride the Hornet and look at it up close, however, you can see/ sense where they’ve cut corners to keep it to budget. Were as you get the sense the Suzuki engineers weren’t tasked with undercutting Yamahas ‘07, so the feel and components are a higher quality, which many jernos have attested to when test riding. The 8S felt self-assured when I rode it, the Hornet felt fun, and the engine in it is really the star of the show, but ultimately I was happy spending the extra on the 8S, with its discernibly higher quality, bi-directional quick shifter, and better looks (IMO).

[@ellwoodwolf]

It’s not an mt-07 beater if it’s more money for the same issues- they could have given the sv650 better suspension and it would beat the mt-07 , instead they made this .... in North America where motorcycles are toys- there are always clean, low mileage used motorcycles and at 9k this is a pass

[@HifeMan]

⁠​⁠@@ellwoodwolfDidn’t stop me from buying one! Literally just picked it up today. Had an 2018 MT-07 and and 2020 SV650 which I loved both for different reasons. I also wanted more features like an nice tft, quick shifter, ect and some extra power. I love Yamaha engine in the MT-07 but the suspension and frame just felt better on my SV650. Also love the SV650 had an slipper clutch. The 8S just combined both of my loves into one and I couldn’t be any happier! :D lol

[@Rogers319]

This is in the US? When did these bikes arrive? I’ve preordered and been waiting forever and was told by my dealer they’ve been delayed to July? WTF?

[@sugarandt]

Zack rode a pre-production bike, you can tell by the red, two lens taillight.

[@Frank-xo7zj]

I would take the qsxr 750 over the 8s everyday during the week and twice on Sunday

[@zed5129]

Not even in the same class but good to know thanks.

[@Hampteronit]

Please review the v-strom 800DE 🙏

[@BruceLee-bd4pr]

Really enjoy your videos, thank you! I see a request for a review for the Suzuki GSX S1000. Likewise a review on the Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX would be appreciated. The sports touring segment is really intriguing to be at this point in my life. Thanks again Zach

[@ejdtm]

I wonder where it’s priced. is it right between the MT seven and nine?

[@mad3st]

Sad but It is last chance to get SV650 pretty confident that it will be discontinued soon. For me ptwin cant replace v.

[@motorradmike]

For me, the now ubiquitous parallel twin has become the defacto universal engine embraced by most motorcycle manufacturers these days. For now I’ll definitely keep my V-Strom 650 L twin.

[@himaro101]

Your comments on the seat would make me not buy it alone sadly. I've got a bony backside and really struggle with seats that aren't padded properly

[@AKIB1991LASKAR]

Why japanese designers so obsessed with insects......they made great looking bikes in the past..... currently all of them gone down ktm route,every naked bike from Japan now looks like a insect....!! My God 2009 R1,and 2008 Fireblade are the best looking Japanese bike of all time...

[@rondobrondo]

this doesn't look like an insect lol

[@holmiumh]

The short answer is people in Europe like this kind of "edgy", "modern", "unique" exterior design. And they sell tons of motorcycles in Europe. It's the same way that China is now the biggest market for BMW and MB, so they need gigantic grilles because that's what the Chinese people prefer..

[@AKIB1991LASKAR]

@@rondobrondo look at the headlight and tank shrouds....!!! They look but too edgy for my taste.....Yamaha XSR 900 previous version is the best looking modern bike ......at least in my opinion....

[@AKIB1991LASKAR]

@@holmiumh Yeah...I agree with you.... different people have different preferences......!!!

[@zx10bk]

I use a zx10R and a zx1000 as daily riders. I love them

[@whiskyone]

Great video as always. As a rider over 6', how would you compare the leg angle/comfort between your sv650 and the 800s?

[@bossmoderhino6109]

im 6'2", the sv is cramped, the 8s is less cramped but not exactly a cruiser

[@SuzukiC41]

6'5" here, the 8s sits a bit higher around 32 inches vs 31 for the 650. It has been a while since I've ridden the gen 3 SV but they're sat pretty similarly in terms of legroom from what I can remember. Both are comfortable enough but the SV seat is definitely more comfortable. You've got a lot more seat room to work with to find a good angle where the 8S seat is fairly flat front to back

[@pendzel55]

Great episode Zack! Is there any chance for the Monster 950?

[@elitecorsair]

Zach, could you add a picture with you sitting in the saddle to show the leg positioning in your reviews?

[@BEEBEE58679]

How does clutch lever pull compare to clutch lever pull of XSR 700 ?? Thanks for response, and, your excellent review.

[@mattbrandt1472]

Love these reviews. Look forward to them every week.

[@leeengelsman1855]

Please how does the vibration at 6000+ rpm compare with the SV650 at same revs?.

[@Hannah-451]

Is the oil pick up in the front and sequestered like an SV's engine? Bummer to think of oiling issues like that

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Parallel twins don't have an issue with oil pickup or starvation.

[@Hannah-451]

@lifted_above1216 that's neat, I have an SV. I want an 8S, or a Duke Evo, hence asking about the 8S spethifikally.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@Hannah-451 I fffthink you'd be okay. hahaha

[@bdizzle194]

Big Suzuki fan here and can’t wait for a Vstrom 800 review!! Compared to T7, and maybe the Transalp.

[@anthonywilson-qk6bl]

Can you give metric conversions with your stat's?...

[@exc911ence_channel]

Who would buy a GSX-8S over a GSX-S750? Especially when you consider that the far more powerful 750 is actually a few hundred dollars cheaper than the weaker 800?

[@pablolachmann7044]

And has a inline 4

[@zed5129]

Torque. Better daily rider.

[@ONEly-uc4et]

Another great vid Zac. Thank you! So a reliable 790 Duke…(yes I know ktm’s are much better these days … but the are not Suzuki’s). Would be interesting to see an 9S-R. Extra 100cc’s and better suspension and brakes. That would be worth looking at. … oh…another gallon of gas would be nice as noted in the review. Solid start of a new line…

[@bravo_victor]

If it was just a little prettier... hoping to pick up a mid-size naked bike soon-ish to pair with my off-road oriented KLR. My first bike was a Z400, which was fun but lacking slightly on power and at 6'1"/200 feels very small. Feel like I'll end up swiping a used SV 650 this winter.

[@jimperry4420]

Try a Gsxs750 . Fantastic machine.

[@rickster2929]

I will be keeping my gsxs 750 thank you 😊

[@sekTash985]

Same here!

[@jimperry4420]

Same.

[@duanestiles4821]

Yes there is always more room for another naked bike great video

[@richardwarsinske7064]

I get how practical P-twins are but also feel that their "fun factor" is the main reason they're so popular. Does the GSX 8S match the "fun factor" of the Yamaha MT07 and KTM Duke 790/890?

[@sugarandt]

All the reviews I’ve seen have said it’s fun, although it doesn’t wheelie as easily as the FZ/MT-07, but it’s a better bike with a longer wheel base and firmer, better balanced suspension. That’s a big part of why the FZ wheelies so easily, the soft suspension, I own one.

[@soundsidetoursnc]

Enough twins! Geez! We need a new inline 4 naked.

[@Bluecollarguy87]

Best host they have.

[@Fee.1]

Zack are there any throttle by wire bikes you know of that don’t have that snatch throttle effect?

[@sugarandt]

I think Zack would tell you that Triumph has some of the best, snatch free fueling of all the manufacturers.

[@justmyself1000]

Thank You Zack for another great review! I look at this bike and I see a 790/890 Duke mostly with some MT-09 added in as far as appearance. I don't dislike this bike....but why bother making this when the SV-650 has comparable specs.? I wonder what it would take and how much it would cost to pull more power from this to at least be close to the 790 Duke?

[@wachtmeistereder]

I also test rode the Suzuki GSX-8S and suspect Zack just didn't have a good day. The bike is the most agile and best performing vehicle in the class. I did not feel the negative points presented in the video. Compared to a Duke 790, I didn't ride an 890, everything works more sophisticated and lighter, the seating position is more comfortable, the automatic gearshift works better, the behaviour, for example in traffic roundabouts, is better. I suspect that the bike was built more for European road conditions and America is perhaps too big to understand how it performs.

[@ellwoodwolf]

Did you already buy one ? It’s a dud.

[@wachtmeistereder]

@@ellwoodwolf Do you know this from your own experience?

[@jhunzxengemdeleon1575]

When will be the next ctxp? You should do classic British bike on ctxp. You on re interceptor 650 and ari on bsa gold star.

[@lukekilgore6195]

I previously owned a KTM Duke 890R, and after saving up I am ready to replace the Duke as I had to sell it. Coming from the Duke 890R, is this bike worth the extra money I would save? Would I be too bored with it since I have experienced the 890R? Trying to balance my options but would appreciate any opinions!

[@lovemye36]

My last bike was an SV 650. Would this be an upgrade?

[@mermerac]

And the new VStrom goes #1 🎯

[@beastmode00714]

I don’t want to look at a smart phone when riding. Part of the reason I ride is to escape.