Rhaenyra: the New Daenerys? (House of the Dragon)

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David Lightbringer

David Lightbringer

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@kristi4113
@kristi4113 2 жыл бұрын
There is no comparison between Daenerys and Rhaenyra! Dany grew up with nothing and saw for herself how cruel the world can be. With that, she used the power she got to protect (eff you, D&D) the powerless. Rhaenyra grew up with everything, her parents worshipped the ground she walked on. She was King Viserys’ only child for a long time, learning by his side and was his chosen heir.
@LamiNalchor
@LamiNalchor 10 ай бұрын
Yes, true.
@tangomcphearson74
@tangomcphearson74 2 жыл бұрын
You explained Daeny perfectly, and THIS is why I was so angry when the shows writers turned her into an insane monster in a very short amount of time.
@tmgmagdalena4138
@tmgmagdalena4138 2 жыл бұрын
TeamDany
@AS-ri1mb
@AS-ri1mb Жыл бұрын
Yeah but she aaa always going to turn. It’s just that her arc was sped up a bit
@clay1430
@clay1430 2 жыл бұрын
"YEAAAH LET'S GO TEAM BLACK WHEW" you didn't have to call me out like that 😭
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@jozz2248
@jozz2248 2 жыл бұрын
His impression of us sounded a little bit like a fired up Owen Wilson. 😆
@HowdyItLovll
@HowdyItLovll 2 жыл бұрын
@@jozz2248 oh wow
@jozz2248
@jozz2248 2 жыл бұрын
@@HowdyItLovll 😆😁 3:58 for reference
@Jaxhum
@Jaxhum 2 жыл бұрын
Come for the sexy dragon lords. Stay for the leadership lessons and political intrigue.
@imaginationgirl21
@imaginationgirl21 2 жыл бұрын
If I could choose any person in this story to throw my full support towards, it would be Rhaenys. It's so obvious that she would have been a much better ruler than viserys, rhaenyra, or aegon.
@made-line7627
@made-line7627 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@claire3614
@claire3614 2 жыл бұрын
You speak nothing but the truth
@InfamousB9
@InfamousB9 2 жыл бұрын
Very true Grace,I am with you
@Brickwinds
@Brickwinds 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. She fought and died defending the rights of another, while Rhaenyra never fought for her own throne once.
@thedemonhater7748
@thedemonhater7748 2 жыл бұрын
It really is a shame that the lords of westeros were to preoccupied with her sex to see her for what she was- strong, confident, ambitious- both her father’s daughter and Jaehaerys’ real heir.
@rodneyc8126
@rodneyc8126 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos you nail it. That's what drew me to her. Danearys Targaryen's genuine kind nature was magnetic to the other characters on the show. Most other characters on the show put self first. Why build Danny up to tear her down in season eight? They didn't have to turn Danearys into a vile heartless monster.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
They did it because they are incapable on understanding the power of altruism and empathy. It was the height of cynicism
@KerriFromTX
@KerriFromTX 2 жыл бұрын
Cause in the books it went down like that
@atamburlaine
@atamburlaine 2 жыл бұрын
@@KerriFromTX The books haven't been written yet, Kerri.
@merrybright5732
@merrybright5732 2 жыл бұрын
@@KerriFromTX the books haven’t gotten to that point, and I would bet that GRRM is at least capable of adding some lead up before that happening
@MrVictor1227
@MrVictor1227 2 жыл бұрын
I support Team Black and Rhaenyra because what they did to her was unfair in my opinion,but I know she is selfish and became cruel during the war.
@mellemadswoestenburg1296
@mellemadswoestenburg1296 2 жыл бұрын
Dont worry. You don't have to defend that opinion. Selfish and cruel characters can still be beloved. So many villains and anti heroes are very loved by the fans. Just look at Azula. She's a cold, cruel calculating villain and yet the fans still love her. For her villainy but also for the tragedy that her story really is under the surface.
@mellemadswoestenburg1296
@mellemadswoestenburg1296 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darkstar_Dayne Exactly. I love those complex characters.
@andilebless5533
@andilebless5533 2 жыл бұрын
I support Daemon and the Velaryons, but Rhae is a hoe fam. Her sons are Strongs
@dreamermala106
@dreamermala106 2 жыл бұрын
Always great content! Thanks so much for using my artwork (Elena Brown) I've been following your channel for a long time and I'm honored you used it! :D
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Oh thank you Elena!! It’s some of the very best Rhaenyra art out there, it only is a well crafted, but the expression is perfect. Way to capture the essence of the character !
@dreamermala106
@dreamermala106 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer thank you so much again! I'm happy to share the Mel one when it's finished as well!
@lizardbreathh
@lizardbreathh 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh nice background! Hope you're enjoying Australia! I forgot it's winter there. Go Warriors!
@debrickashaw9387
@debrickashaw9387 2 жыл бұрын
One of the problems with danys villain "arc" in the show is that it came completely out of left field. Good villians have their motivations and goals corrupted so that you can still see how they ended up being like that. Dany is just "im mad, lets just kill people"
@VS-kf5qw
@VS-kf5qw 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! The ending we got was nonsense, and I say this as someone who had been expecting and looking forward to an Evil Dany arc since the early seasons. In S3 it seemed like they were laying the foundation for her to become increasingly ruthless, struggling with the ends vs. the means, as she has to make more and more hard choices... not whatever season 6 was.
@marcostargaryen4181
@marcostargaryen4181 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenrya is not like daenerys , and I don't like the comparison to cersei as well , rhaenrya had bastards sons because she needed heirs and her husband was incapable to give her , and cersei is cruel just for the sake of it and not to mention a terrible ruler , while rhaenrya became ruthless thanks to all the looses she suffered.
@MariaVosa
@MariaVosa 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf Cersei became cruel and ruthless partly due to her own losses as well. Robert never loved her, he cheated on her, hit her, humiliated her and she lost their first child together. Unlike Rhaenyra Cersei was never respected or loved by her father,never expected to do anything but give birth. She was just chattel to get a good alliance. I admire Rhaenyra more that Cersei, but I feel Cersei's failings are more understandable.
@marcostargaryen4181
@marcostargaryen4181 2 жыл бұрын
@@MariaVosa honey , you watching the show too much , in the books cersei admits she did everything to not get pregnant by Robert including aborted a child and she was cruel since childhood, she killed her best friend at the age of 13
@marcostargaryen4181
@marcostargaryen4181 2 жыл бұрын
@@MariaVosa but I do understand cersei hatred for Robert, he was disgusting and didn't love her.
@bethaofhouseblackwood234
@bethaofhouseblackwood234 2 жыл бұрын
@@MariaVosa Cercei pushed her best friend down the Well when is was around 9 or 10. Now that's a special type of lady
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing I’ll say here is that it’s inaccurate to say Laenor couldn’t give Rhaenyra children. We don’t know that, only that he preferred men. But I’ll get into that in another video. I think everyone is making valid points about Cersei here; yeah she did kill her friend at age 11 and she is pretty fucked in the head. But bad parenting was a part of that, and Robert was abusive. On their wedding night, he called he Lyanna. So that was fucked too. I think she did love her children but in a flawed, selfish way. Lots of parents do that.
@donone352
@donone352 2 жыл бұрын
There's only one Daenery targayen
@davisiotta489
@davisiotta489 3 ай бұрын
actually 3 but none is THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS!!!
@michaelshelton5488
@michaelshelton5488 2 жыл бұрын
The actress cast as young Rhaenyra definitely looks like Emilia Clarke so I'm sure the show is banking on Daenerys nostalgia to get people (at least casual non book fans) to watch.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
...only to pull the rug out from under them, exactly
@Ashley_e
@Ashley_e 2 жыл бұрын
In fairness …. *incest* 😜
@InfamousB9
@InfamousB9 2 жыл бұрын
That is interesting Michael,and true
@rodneyc8126
@rodneyc8126 2 жыл бұрын
Emilia is much better looking though. The young Rhaenyra is a little odd looking. Not really unattractive, just odd.
@InfamousB9
@InfamousB9 2 жыл бұрын
@@rodneyc8126 She is cute,Emilia is beautiful
@timothythorne9182
@timothythorne9182 2 жыл бұрын
LML, I am loving these videos you're putting out lately. I almost never get to catch a live stream, or catch up on the live streams after they air. These shorter videos are a lot easier for me to keep up on.
@bloodandempire
@bloodandempire 2 жыл бұрын
Same. I do enjoy both though
@timothythorne9182
@timothythorne9182 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the streams when I can catch them
@TheMaYsSA2
@TheMaYsSA2 2 жыл бұрын
In the light of this analysis, it's actually ironic that Viserys and Rhaenyra keep going on about the prophecy. They don't focus on the protect the realm part as much as the role they play. They're the centre of prophecy, not protecting the realm.
@Cloud-l33t-DMS
@Cloud-l33t-DMS 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel mate and liked and subscribed for the Al GO. Also, am a huge drum n bass fan so when I heard Down Under by Luude feat Colin Hay I got pretty excited…. And those bleating birds are nuttty coming from Canada…. Never seen anything like that before. Again cheers and thanks for the amazing content. Keep it coming…Cheers
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! Good stuff Dane. You can catch me in JohnB’s twitch livestreams, which are absolutely filthy wicked each and every time in the place! Hold tight the twitch rave massive! Etc etc come on through
@saltywriteralex
@saltywriteralex 2 жыл бұрын
It's been my fear since this show was announced that the inevitable comparisons to Daenerys would be used to justify Dany's ending. Like, "See, all the Targaryens (esp. the women) are bad and therefore the ending made sense." But I'm glad this video exists to set the record straight!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
exactly, yes, and even right after the HBO ending people looked at Rhaenyra and worried that she was meant as a Dany parallel, and that George planned on murdering Dany too. But when you really look, Rhaenyra is much closer to Cersei, and where it counts - the moral compass - she's nothing like Dany
@jeeshadow1
@jeeshadow1 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer I think the Cersei parallel is very interesting. I think Rhaenyra is kinda what Cersei wished she was: more able to choose who she married (a family members) as well as put above her (in her eyes) less capable siblings. Alicent then I feel like is kinda what society would expect Cersei to be, if that makes sense? That said, the succession crisis they faced were very different (and also of cersei's own making)
@trumanberlin3522
@trumanberlin3522 2 жыл бұрын
I need the 4 hour livestream deep-dive into the "sheep in the trees" symbolism next hahaha Thanks for more great content!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s there if you want it to be… Jon is a wolf in sheeps clothing already but he’s also a crow. So crows in sheeps clothing, but in trees like greenseers. The others are like sheep, etc etc
@melissablackwood
@melissablackwood 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer If one of those crows starts hollering "SNOW" ...
@Aezeus
@Aezeus 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Australian and never thought about the sound crows make here compared to on tv, they straight up sound like sheep, never noticed, wild Praise Garth
@deaddhianna
@deaddhianna 2 жыл бұрын
Same here but I can totally hear it. When lml said sheep in the video and then a crow cawwed I did indeed hear a sheep. It's like my brain misfired due to a new bias.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
I had to play a video with “regular” crow sounds for Minty, she didn’t even know what they sound like!
@sanctuary6689
@sanctuary6689 2 жыл бұрын
I am astounded at how you keep pumping out content while on vacation! Hopefully you’re giving yourself down time to listen to the flying goats of Australia.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And yeah, I had this written before I left town, so I just had to record it. Can’t let the channel go into hybernation! Plus I’m here for a month so I can’t just sit on my hands that long. I love making content!!
@sanctuary6689
@sanctuary6689 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer and we love the content you make!
@moiz85
@moiz85 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra certainly seems to believe in the targaryen exceptionalism, not just in terms of who she could marry but in being apart from the rules applied to other people.
@danielalaiz419
@danielalaiz419 2 жыл бұрын
yes, and in the end it ruined her
@jeeshadow1
@jeeshadow1 2 жыл бұрын
Its also interesting because the disinheritance of Rhaenys was an act of Targaryen exceptionalism as well, as Andal law clearly put her above Viserys. They just made an even more male favored succession exception for the Iron Throne. Not sure what Andal law says about Rhaenyra's case, honestly it might have been in favor of Aegon II? But then Rhaenyra's kids would have inherited before Aegon's. Honestly Viserys just kept making bad succession decisions that continually put his chosen heir in a bad political position and handed her a fairly weak hand to deal with.
@karentargaryen7959
@karentargaryen7959 2 жыл бұрын
I am interested to hear your thoughts (after vacation of course), if the succession from Viserys to Rhaenyra had gone smoothly with no interference from the Greens, and based on what we know about Rhaenyra, would she have brought forth any good policies or changed any out dated standards as queen?
@moiz85
@moiz85 2 жыл бұрын
Daemon would still be trying get power, and would probably cause trouble. The Maesters and Septons would have lots of opinions, and would make things difficult. So I think her success would be unlikely.
@iangallagher5448
@iangallagher5448 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Daemon and Corlys would’ve been vying for power and I’m pretty sure he would’ve had the Strong Boys assassinated or at least attempted it. But I believe Corlys would end up winning the power struggle
@danielalaiz419
@danielalaiz419 2 жыл бұрын
@@iangallagher5448 people don't understand this rhaenyra was surrounded by snakes even on her side never that daemon would leave her children in favor of the bastards
@jswagaudio
@jswagaudio 2 жыл бұрын
yeeee yeeeee new vid! Been binging the chapter rereads so i needed this
@justinjohnson529
@justinjohnson529 2 жыл бұрын
What are you looking forward to the most for the show?
@julieloucalcote1368
@julieloucalcote1368 2 жыл бұрын
Everything! Dragons, political intrigue, family conflict, etc.
@sanctuary6689
@sanctuary6689 2 жыл бұрын
Dragons and an excellent script.
@radnacs3000
@radnacs3000 2 жыл бұрын
Everything! But I hope they do Aemond and Vhagar vs Daemon and Caraxes justice.
@morganburt2565
@morganburt2565 2 жыл бұрын
seeing this world on screen again 🥺
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
The fog of history stuff! Seeing the show runners choose between all the “possible realities.” Also, there increased character arc potential of seeing characters at different ages - I loved Dark (Netflix) for that exact reason
@parisLuvsdolls
@parisLuvsdolls 2 жыл бұрын
I love Dany! And everything she stood for…🥰💋💕💗
@thetruthofit398
@thetruthofit398 2 жыл бұрын
it will be veryyyyy hard to match Dany appeal, like in a story with such unique characters like Tyrion, Dany is more unique, George is incredible. Dany, both book and show endeared herself to legionssss of people. With many Targaryen now it will be tough to match Dany, a true all timer. but this show will be amazing any how, and Dragons are the most beloved fantasy ''creatures'' by a mile, so that should help a lot.
@xeronix9774
@xeronix9774 2 жыл бұрын
Viserys is just lucky Rhaenys didn't fight for her throne lol
@NickdeVera
@NickdeVera 2 жыл бұрын
there's layers obviously, but one core thing in the dance of dragons is two moms trying to keep their kids from getting romanov'd. and the tragic cruel royalty gametheory idea that the only way to stay alive is to romanov the other side first.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
that's kind of the operate political strategy, yeah
@khalidhasan5938
@khalidhasan5938 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually on par for *Team Rhaenyra* simply because King Veysarys wanted his Daughter to stay up on the Throne, oblivious to his offsprings from Alicent. It's just that simple to respect the King's wishes, in which Alicent should have rightfully been head-spiked for overturning her hubby's command - which could have voided the Civil War altogether (in theory). Thanks for this comparison, David!
@wynterashara5160
@wynterashara5160 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! Getting super excited for the new show!!! Enjoy your trip!!!
@kadymiddleton6699
@kadymiddleton6699 2 жыл бұрын
I was so glad you gave us the hard no at the beginning. While I love me some dragon people do dragon shuff (and Rhaenyra and Daemon are my favorite characters in HotD)they are in no way as self sacrificing and giving as Dany.
@markpjf85
@markpjf85 2 жыл бұрын
Daenerys is great She does the most out of nothing help people do you know I mean she was a great character but HBO decided to go down the Mad queen route which doesn’t make sense with her story but her story in the books is quite different more heroic sacrifice for the greater good
@bethaofhouseblackwood234
@bethaofhouseblackwood234 2 жыл бұрын
@@eurongreyjoy1008 yes he stannis will turn out mad lol
@iangallagher5448
@iangallagher5448 2 жыл бұрын
You do know GRRM is about to take us down that Mad Queen route as well
@robbyten100
@robbyten100 2 жыл бұрын
@@iangallagher5448 but he will do it much better than dumb and dumber did
@manyeyedcrow9391
@manyeyedcrow9391 2 жыл бұрын
listening to the crows bleating in the trees, I can only think “Harold is that most dangerous of animals … a clever sheep “, lol
@DreyM3
@DreyM3 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy you made this video- I’ve been so nervous non readers are gonna think Rhae is supposed be like Dany and that is just notttt the case. Rhae is a great character on her own but she is NOT Dany, not even fkn close. Personally I am a Rhae apologist but if people think she’s supposed to be like Dany I see causal viewers being confused or angry
@Ravereviewsoffial
@Ravereviewsoffial 2 жыл бұрын
Fucking Luude drum and bass?!?
@simosa5842
@simosa5842 2 жыл бұрын
"I see causal viewers being confused or angry" especially at the end of her story
@inviernum4201
@inviernum4201 2 жыл бұрын
I love this feminist analysis. It really helps put the politics (and ASOIAF is very political) in context and at the forefront. Thank you for your continued contribution, especially during these scary times.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Right on, I do consider myself feminist or pro-feminist, or at least anti-patriarchy. Just seems like common sense really. Cheers!
@SoCalledGodess
@SoCalledGodess 2 жыл бұрын
🎉 a non-live-stream video from Australia! I was not expecting this, what a happy surprise 😊
@smpk9667
@smpk9667 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, also loving the new background
@nadiasouthiere7908
@nadiasouthiere7908 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to say thanks LML for sharing this stream, good analysis👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻🫶🏻🙋🏼‍♀️🇨🇦
@altonkknight
@altonkknight 2 жыл бұрын
God, that Australian background is such a vibe!
@lordfleabottom278
@lordfleabottom278 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are perfect btw i am in love with your glasses ;)
@itiswhatitis7474
@itiswhatitis7474 2 жыл бұрын
Long live the Queen!! (Daenerys)
@ZendikarMage42750
@ZendikarMage42750 2 жыл бұрын
Man, everything is just turned up to 11 in Australia, isn't it?
@kieffermorgan
@kieffermorgan 2 жыл бұрын
That art at 5:48 is so dope!
@SmoteMyRuin
@SmoteMyRuin 2 жыл бұрын
Aaaaaaaa thanks LML happy hump day MythFam!! 🤘🔥🐉🖤
@lynnshort1635
@lynnshort1635 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you are unabashedly a Dany Stan. Me too, man, me too.
@conniebiggers1359
@conniebiggers1359 2 жыл бұрын
I like how you analyzed the situation compared to Dany.
@MrVictor1227
@MrVictor1227 2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who only watched the show and he liked Dany till the last deason. He liked both Dany and Jon Snow but by the end of the series he only liked Jon. I believe show watchers were very much divided in the end when Jon killed Daenyrs and couldnt like both characters anymore🤨
@moinab
@moinab 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing all the Aussie craziness to us!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
my pleasure!
@LSK1
@LSK1 2 жыл бұрын
Love the outro music !!!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
You can find that easily online, full version is a banger
@MissMdubs
@MissMdubs 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I have been watching your videos for what must be four years now and now suddenly you're in my home country of Australia!! Yay!!!
@apacalypsagon3758
@apacalypsagon3758 2 жыл бұрын
5:00 general well being the people of the realm? I'd say the common folk can be just as backstabbers to each other as the lord's are. The lord's are just dressed a lot more fancily.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
lol, what kind of analysis is this? The "common folk" is literally everyone but the lords, and the fact that they are people who are not perfect changes absolutely nothing about the responsibility of the lords. I mean what even is this
@apacalypsagon3758
@apacalypsagon3758 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer it's not an analysis it's a statement. I'm reminiscent of that one lady who swindled arya out of a horse for less than what it's actually worth or how the shepherd managed to lead a riot down in the dragonpit of all places. The way you make it sound is how the lord's should have this sense of benevolent altruistic mind set. When in all due likelihood that's just not natural. The lord's can be held accountable for what happened in the dance if the dragons but its not like they were actively out to get them. Its just indifference something everybody's guilty of. And I'm sure there's examples of the common folk en mass taking their fears and insecurities onto everywhere else just like how lord's will feel and will be disenfranchised lf they don't do anything. Dany is simply the exception and not the rule.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
the point is you can't judge "the common folk" en masse, like they're either virtuous and worth saving or evil and not worth saving. The high lords have a responsibility towards them, simple as that. The behavior of any individual "common folk" doesn't affect that one bit.
@apacalypsagon3758
@apacalypsagon3758 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer I'm not taking it to an extreme of are they or are they not worth saving. I'm saying you shouldn't exempt them from scrutiny just by sheer virtue of being less than lord's. If the rolls were reversed you'd probably get more or less the same results. Not out of malice but simply because you have no legit reason to care of what goes outside of you or your own. Which applies to both the commonfolk and the lord's. If the lord's we're that incompetent you'd think the common folk would grow a spine and run the local lord out of town. But they willingly choose to live the way they do because they know their lord's best interests align with their's.
@chazblank2717
@chazblank2717 2 жыл бұрын
Loving all the recent Australia trivia… “baa-aaah” goes the crow
@hayley3986
@hayley3986 2 жыл бұрын
I'm catching up on a backlog of your videos, it's a really good time. While I'm all for more content, I hope you don't work too hard this month, so you can enjoy the beauty of Australia. So. Many. Birds. 💜
@armoringregret9833
@armoringregret9833 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation! Bravo!
@amandaofhouserobinson6707
@amandaofhouserobinson6707 2 жыл бұрын
No way.... I still managed to be an hour late to this and your in my time zone!! No excuse!!! I'm useless!! Thanks heaps for doing this while you're on vacation! Legend LML!
@gilgabro420
@gilgabro420 2 жыл бұрын
btw your sunglasses sute you well!
@crazyprof5349
@crazyprof5349 2 жыл бұрын
Wait those are actually crows??
@Grogeous_Maximus
@Grogeous_Maximus 2 жыл бұрын
Someone gained another level in production. Muy bueno
@lolsous
@lolsous 2 жыл бұрын
You always make the best videos!
@stephanysa6440
@stephanysa6440 2 жыл бұрын
Imsorry but rhaenerys will never be as iconic as dany 🤷🏻‍♀️, imagine if d&d gave us the ending we all deserved
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's a bit too simplified to say "Dany came up from nothing". I think lots of people would like to have a claim to a giant kingdom. It'd be more correct to say "Dany lived through poverty" (and abuse, and more), even if even then millions of people in the world of westeros had it much worse than her still. Dany did live a much better life than most people still.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
No way. She was an orphan with no parents and only an abusive brother. Then sold into marital slavery at 13? That’s WORSE than nothing and definitely not “much better than many people alive at that time.” She came from less than nothing and that claim didn’t get her anything.
@sinthoras1917
@sinthoras1917 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer Did she have to live in poverty to the degree the serfs of the westerlands or slaves of slavers bay have to? Her claim ensured her a life way more comfortable than them, at least until she was married. Also, do you think it is uncommon in planetos to be sold into marital slavery at 13? How many people in GRRMs world are orphans, abused, enslaved, married at 13? I think it is very clearly the case that vast swaths of the population of planetos, arguably the majority (especially women), have it even worse than her, which is how I would define "nothing" in planetos, as the worst lot you can have.
@tana4056
@tana4056 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I hope when HotD comes out all your videos blow up. You're gonna steal the show i know it 🔥
@KaraSTheMedianaut
@KaraSTheMedianaut 2 жыл бұрын
Oh! It was a surprise to see my name instead of my dragon’s name up there, that was kinda neat change of pace that I didn’t expect. Zechaerys’ namesake (rip) still watches your videos with me in spirit, and I feel him here with me now tonight too. He would’ve gone absolutely crazy for those crow-sheep!!
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I figured I’d honor the squishers this time around! RIP ZECHARYS the Thunderer!
@crystala6338
@crystala6338 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this vid. Before s8 I was more hyped for DoD or HoTD over any other story and ofc I was all for Rhaenyra's side because at the end of the day her father never said she wasn't his heir (correct me if I'm wrong lol). Leading up to s8 and after I am still on the same side but I am still pissed with what happened to Dany and how they basically gave her a similar ending to Rhaenyra. Both woman (rightful heirs imo) were made to go batshit crazy and killed by a male in their family/claimant and it is sickening. So the comparison is only really on that regard for me where it feels like they gave Dany plots of Rhaenyra/faegon/JonCon etc etc. Its such a bad taste lingering where I don't want to see another woman get pushed and pushed until finally the plot demands her to fall under "bitches be crazy" and then killed so horrendously after how fucked up they did my boo Dany.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
I totally get that. Especially since they are SUCH different characters. Part of the reason why I made this video… the only thing that will make the Dany thing better is George finishing the books. That’s it. The TV can’t fix what they did to Dany.
@crystala6338
@crystala6338 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer omg you responded to me lol but seriously that's why I love the vid because they are absolutely totally different characters and Dany will always be THE best thing from the Targs and her story is far from over and I trust GRRM is going to take her to amazing heights. If you will be down for it, there was this fic I read(I know fanfiction but I swear you wrote it because it is filled with ASOIAF mythology lol) that tried it's best to give Dany her red door.
@darthnox4914
@darthnox4914 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for emphasising how different Rhaenyra is compared to Dany. Since the trailer is released people begin to relate her character to Dany, which is wrong and would make people expect something the character is not. GoT’s finale did not only leave a bad taste of the show, it also left a bad taste of Dany’s character. No one could get the ending that they hoped for her, on the contrary her precious character arc is ruined which was quintessential for the series. Seeing young Rhaenyra reasonably leads people to hope for a “redemption story” for the injustice that the show-runners did to Dany’s character. Rhaenyra is as you suggested earlier, “more like Cersei” than Dany. Rhaenyra’s character is not supposed to be as beautiful as Dany and she neither is an “activist”. Dany is one of the best things from GoT, what made the show so memorable. I hope that HoD’s show-runners realised her character’s importance for the fandom and the chemistry of their show’s predecessor series, so that they will fill the lack of Dany by creating an another character echoing her and not by using Rhaenyra.
@BillyBasd
@BillyBasd 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, even if they changed Rhaenrya making all of her bad actions(bastard kids setting up war, calling for her allied dragon riders heads, etc) misrecorded she still gets a bad ending.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they’d have to change her ending too, if they made her all sweet and good. The ones to keep an eye on are Baela and Laena. Nettles is also good (she’s horrified by the one battle she was in). It looks like they have aged up Baela and are bringing her in earlier, so I think they want to give the audience some better characters at the outset
@darthnox4914
@darthnox4914 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer Well, I definitely agree with you! Additionally, I do have a prediction regarding to Daemon Targaryen’s possible portrayal in HoD series; I do believe that he will be somewhat similar to Jaime Lannister as in personality. I know that in Fire and Blood he is illustrated totally different compare to Jaime, considering Jaime improved his personality throughout to series. Still, hear me out! Show-runners must make some necessary arrangements in the story to make it more interesting, their source material is different from what GoT had; they only work with an overall background knowledge of the period from different third persona perspectives, some quotes, memorable dialogues and iconic events yet it is still nothing compare to all 5 books GoT adapted to the screen. Show-runners must pay attention on their characters, since they are so blank and incomplete compared to detailed characters from GoT’s unique protagonists. Intertextuality can be the methodology of the show-runners to connect their new characters to the ones we already familiar with. Daemon does have a lot of similarities with Jaime. Handsome yet mean, king’s guard, not loved but feared, warrior instincts, incest relationship. Considering Rhaenyra’s similarity to Cersei, as a couple Rhaenyra and Daemon might be portrayed as an echo of Jaime and Cersei. We might even see Daemon as more of a relatable and sympathetic person compared to cruel and fearless character we had in the book. If not, it would be a waste of so much potential. Jaime’s ending in the GoT also left a bad taste in our mouths, so Daemon can fix it if used wisely.
@stephanysa6440
@stephanysa6440 2 жыл бұрын
no one could ever replace daenerys aka (Emilia Clarke) embodied her Role.
@danielalaiz419
@danielalaiz419 2 жыл бұрын
the actress who was cast to play rhaenyra is very beautiful, she is very different from the books
@oliviaalves3559
@oliviaalves3559 2 жыл бұрын
I might have commented this on one of your videos already, but I always wondered if HBO went ahead with HotD specifically because of Rhaenyra, you know? To induce the idea that Dany's ending was justified because of Rhaenyra? Or at least to create in the audience's mind a clear link in terms of cruelty and entitlement? And retroactively justifying her ending? Idk, I just don't understand why they went with this story, personally would have loved Aegon's conquest.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
because pleople love evil schemers on TV. It’s a race to the bottom but people like that tbh
@FieryReborn
@FieryReborn 2 жыл бұрын
Love the background
@amynurss1375
@amynurss1375 2 жыл бұрын
Team Dany! Hey is that a Led Zepplin shirt?
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
You know it
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
The one with either Lucifer or Icarus on the front (hard to say which)
@DaenerysHeiress
@DaenerysHeiress Жыл бұрын
Despite what people may think I still don’t think she was wrong for burning up kings landing 🤷🏽‍♀️
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer Жыл бұрын
of course she was there were thousands of innocent people down there and her own troops engaged all over the city it was entirely senseless, but if you if you take it at face value, no of course it’s not justified you’d have to be a psychopathic mass murder to actually think so. which is why Dany would never do that
@DaenerysHeiress
@DaenerysHeiress Жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer The innocent people in the show had a chance to leave actually Several Chances. Her Troops were engaged correct which is why she burned away from them. Lol looking at the wide shot she didn’t kill her own. And its a war lol Tywin did it. And Aegon wouldve done it too had certain people not knelt. Not saying its right but I definitely understand its a war. Like Olenna Tyrell said its war 1000 of people will die either way better the opposition then my side. Don’t get me wrong the ending of the show was ridiculous and out of character but I’m just saying in a real life war no1 is showing all the restraint that Queen Dany did.
@claire3614
@claire3614 2 жыл бұрын
DAVE YOU'RE ON VACATION GODDAMMIT, YOU CAN STOP EDITING COOL VIDEOS, WE'RE GONNA WATCH IT FOR THE CONTENT ANYWAY
@antjestube8774
@antjestube8774 2 жыл бұрын
12:53 Land Down Under 🎵🎶🎵😎
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
The full remix is fire you gotta look it up
@susanbishop5349
@susanbishop5349 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you for making it❤️
@willforan9670
@willforan9670 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the video as always. Can’t get enough of this channel! Were you down under when the Warriors won? Hope you’re having a good time, David!
@divinemichael3596
@divinemichael3596 2 жыл бұрын
Yes David finally
@morganburt2565
@morganburt2565 2 жыл бұрын
i dig the streams but these shorter videos are great!
@Hs-luv3692
@Hs-luv3692 Жыл бұрын
I’m on the black side , because viserys named rhaenrya his heir , as king his word is what matters , I also feel for rhaenrya cause yes viserys wanted her to be his heir , he never supported her infront of the other lords , which is why nobody supported her , almost everybody in the show plotted against her directly and even indirectly, her own friend was caught up in the plots , I also feel sorry for rhaenrya cause she has no real support , her husband always has his own agendas , her first husband couldn’t even do her the favor of giving her a child , which would’ve helped her , I am mad at rhaenrya cause she could’ve done more , listened more , been more cautious, instead she isolated herself because she felt it was her right to be queen, and thought ppl would be respect her fathers decision
@k-majik
@k-majik 2 жыл бұрын
Banger video as always, Rhaenyra is definitely more concerned with the game of thrones than Daenerys and their life experiences are so different, but wait a minute. What the hell do crows sound like in America? I've only grown up with Aussie crow noises, I never realised they were different!
@beaver6d9
@beaver6d9 2 жыл бұрын
Spittin Targ Truth like an OG
@Brickwinds
@Brickwinds 2 жыл бұрын
I can't help but notice all the echoes of Rhaenyra in Cersei, too.
@shadowdemon2272
@shadowdemon2272 2 жыл бұрын
Sheep-imitating crows 😐 As if I needed more reasons to fear Australia and the brave (insane?) souls who choose to live there...
@leonardstepto4527
@leonardstepto4527 2 жыл бұрын
Hey LmL, where do you get the music for your intro? Is is someone else's or have you made it yourself? And is there a somewhere I can find it online? Thanks.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
That’s mine, yes! Only place to find it is right here. I play the full thing during livestreams when I need a pee break
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
@WatashiMachineFullCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Lmaooo I felt personally called out in this video! You are absolutely right of course, Rhae is nothing at ALL like Dany, part of my excitement/interest in HOTD is this cast of totally morally grey, corruptible characters. I'm super hopeful that while they will be written with some sympathy they won't be sanitised for the sake of giving us a "right side" and a "wrong side" (I'm still in mourning for show Tyrion)
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
@WatashiMachineFullCycle 2 жыл бұрын
Side note, I think the Broken Men speech might be my absolute favourite passage in the series. It's definitely up there.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
I think they’ll make people on both sides sympathetic at first to draw us in, but I don’t expect one team to be portrayed as right
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
@WatashiMachineFullCycle 2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidLightbringer Yesss that's EXACTLY what I'm hoping will happen!!!
@mollytaylor2122
@mollytaylor2122 2 жыл бұрын
The books pay lip service to the idea that rulers callowly disregarding their people is bad. But, at the same time, I can't help but think that if that was _really_ an important theme to George, he might express that by having like... maybe _one single smallfolk person_ as a POV character?
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Dunk, Davos, Arya essentially becomes a smallfolk for several books, and Melisandre is a slave of the Red Temple. Still, I think there was room for more smallfolk POVs. But I think this is a more subtle layer to the writing; he's kind of tempting us into taking the perspective of the high lords while telling us about all the fallout of their actions and wanting us to see through the high lord bias.
@mollytaylor2122
@mollytaylor2122 2 жыл бұрын
_Kinda sorta_ smallfolk, but not _really._ I've long thought if there was just one POV of a displaced Riverland family or something, the *whole* series would hit *very* different.
@randyeaddy2373
@randyeaddy2373 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your site; wish I had known about it earlier. Many thanks for your homage to MY favorite also, Daenerys, Khaleesi. GOT ending did her wrong. I now won’t allow my early positive reaction to Rhaenrys to run amuck, as I was seeing similarities to Dany. I haven’t read any of the GRRM books, so I don’t know what they say about the characters in House of the Dragon.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Be sure to check out the Daenerys playlist!
@jswagaudio
@jswagaudio 2 жыл бұрын
Those Crows are trying to lure in food for Sheepstealer
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Nice… Nettles trained them haha
@xabisombilini5440
@xabisombilini5440 Жыл бұрын
There will never be another Dany.
@markpjf85
@markpjf85 2 жыл бұрын
Yes rhaenyra targaryen is a interesting character she like Cersei Lannister think about herself but that’s great in a character with layers like onions 🧅
@inelouw
@inelouw 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind the crows. If you see a magpie, RUN. 😂
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
I heard about that ! They’re everywhere but I haven’t been dive bombed yet
@ajackass5950
@ajackass5950 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanna see badass dragon fights with lots of badassery
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
No worries there
@Lyrest
@Lyrest 2 жыл бұрын
Hope your in a warmer part of Australia right now and not freezing cold Adelaide, Melbourne or Tasi 😅Queensland’s great this time of year usually though 🤗
@neilbodwell9172
@neilbodwell9172 2 жыл бұрын
The crows in Japan sound way different too, so its gotta be a continent thing.
@morganburt2565
@morganburt2565 2 жыл бұрын
third comment cuz i lov u- post game streams?? that’s excitinggggg
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s gonna be hype man, I love sports so my post-game instinct is strong
@SatanWasWhiteyBulger
@SatanWasWhiteyBulger 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully well put, I agree with your #teamsmallfolk but it’s clear that Rhaenyra doesn’t do anything to really help anyone but herself. Whereas Daenerys even putting herself in certain situations where she ends up loosing the most. Very much two different women and different lives as well
@moiz85
@moiz85 2 жыл бұрын
Dissing our crows is crossing the line.
@MissOliviaMonroe
@MissOliviaMonroe 2 жыл бұрын
Dany is the Queen we chose ♥️🔥
@anthonymattarelliano6387
@anthonymattarelliano6387 2 жыл бұрын
Hair on point as usual
@freddiemckellar7586
@freddiemckellar7586 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!!! Do you know when the trailer will drop? And how many we getting do you think?
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
I only hear rumors, I don’t have any actual inside info
@kennethoxley2525
@kennethoxley2525 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, you weren't defending Dany in 1975.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
I meant “the current run of Warriors titles from the Steph Klay Dray team” but I yield to your excellent sports knowledge! I was wondering if anyone would catch that. Well played.
@Darksun93
@Darksun93 2 жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra is the best! this whole video sounds like something a green would say hmmmmm haha I am looking forward to how they portray this character in the show.
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to be both hard on the character but also looking for the sympathetic angle. I’ll try to be balanced and not too opinionated… ultimately this is a show about a bunch of schemers trying to out-scheme each other. It’ll be wildly entertaining but without a lot of heroes.
@marinamari8083
@marinamari8083 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!) I was always a Dany's fan and I was fkng furious with season 8 since the first MINUTES... From the moment I saw Dany and Jon arriving at Winterfell I told my friend (with whom I was watching the show) that something was wrong with... everything and everyone.... Everybody just got sooooo stupid and did not AT ALL followed their previous logic, knowledge, experience, etc... I suspected it in season 7, but I felt in the very beginning of season 8... Even though I didn't read the books, I remembered Dany's path so clear which was truly HER'S up until season 7... So you can imagine my reaction when I saw the very last episode... I'm glad that you pointed out Dany's real goals and her real character!))
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