rich broke artists; the slavery of the music industry

[@dj_here]

Let's realize "broke" is relative. Chloe's broke is different from the man down the street broke. She is eating, has luxury shelter in LA, and has accolades behind her name. Same as TLC. yes they are in debt but relatively it's not horrible if someone is investing in you and your passions. Most don't have that luxury.

[@daffodil4500]

You don't understand. A lot of them are probably equally broke but because they're a brand and puppet, we don't see it. We only know it when hellyweird finally spits them out after chewing them up for so long. In other words, when the fame dries up we see just how broke they've been all along because they're not only financially broke. But they're also morally, mentally, spiritually and in many cases physically broke.

[@WilonaJoy]

@DJ This is an interesting point of view. I didn’t think of it that way but yeah; you have a point.🫶🏾

[@WilonaJoy]

@Daffodil 🙌🏾💯💯💯

[@jalaaaah]

i honestly don’t think chloe’s “broke”. i think she’s just spending & saving her money responsibly & not trying to live above her means. she’s doing everything an average young adult SHOULD do. especially as a woman who gets most of their work done in LA. you don’t want a house because it’s risky living alone, you’re probably always working outside of it, you’d have to find a safe community depending on your status, it may not be in an area you’d want to settle down in for a family, you might not want to invest in a home until you have a family & just so much more.. her family has always seemed to have a decent amount of money being how they’ve invested into her & her sister’s career since they were kids & i’m sure they taught them how to manage & maintain it. i WISH more families, especially black families, did this. people expect artist to buy houses, cars & etc thinking they’ve made it, forgetting they’re also the sole providers for their family’s & are in debt to these labels.

[@MissTia777]

@@jalaaaah Sole providers for the families? Them sorry families need to get their OWN and not leech!

[@user-mb8rf7qk5q]

I live in LA and pursued music from 2004-2010 and I can tell you straight up, they don’t want you producing or writing your own stuff. Every meeting I had, they would try to put me with writers and producers so they could intercept the money. Not to mention all the sleezy ass producers, managers, label executives trying to get at you. This was before the Me Too thing…shit was terrible let me tell you. I ended up quitting because I realized you have to sell yourself to make it. Either give up your body, or your actual voice and ownership. Well, to be honest, they want it all. It’s sick. Just make music in your damn room and don’t envy these artists cause it’s nothing to envy I promise.

[@WilonaJoy]

Wow… a singer named Coco Jones said a similar thing

[@charlottelokinu1989]

Jesus Christ loves you and he has a great plan for your life! He paid the price for you so that you may have eternal life and life in abundance

[@user-mb8rf7qk5q]

@@charlottelokinu1989 thank you for that beautiful message. I appreciate you passing that along to me from above! 💜

[@__lala68]

I wish Tinashe kept making music in her room as well.

[@user-mb8rf7qk5q]

@@__lala68 those Tinashe mixtapes she made in her room were incredible! In Case We die, Reverie, Black Water.. then she got signed and clearly we can tell what happened. But like I said, they don’t want you producing and writing and arranging your own music. They literally won’t allow it for women in r&b especially. They want to put you in with a producer and writers, slap a blonde wig on you, a leotard, and have you rolling around on the floor singing some tacky generic song someone else wrote that you’ll never get paid for. It’s interesting you mentioned Tinashe, perfect example.

[@TheLovely990]

Prince said it best. The only ones making money is the owner of the labels, executive, and writers. Mariah Carey sold over 75 million records, but she only made $500 million in her lifetime. The record company made billions, and still making money. Go independent is the key like Master P did. Smart move.

[@didierrobert13004]

Mariah is a great example. Knowing that she writes and co produces everything, she has sold more than 200 million records worldwide.. yet her net worth is between 350 and 500 million $ She was named « the franchise » by Sony and people from Sony. That says a lot.

[@TheLovely990]

@@didierrobert13004 She should be a billionaire by now. However, she lives a diva lifestyle.🙄

[@didierrobert13004]

@@TheLovely990 I totally agree with you. And if we add the brand deals, the salariés she got from being on TV etc she should be a billionaire by now. And yes she does live a fancy life but I highly doubt she’s in debts at this point.

[@TheLovely990]

@@didierrobert13004 She is not in debt by no means.

[@tayyibahz9343]

If they go independent they defo won’t be making money. The ppl who run the industry won’t allow them to be at the top if they aren’t making them money 😂

[@jemicabond3916]

The music industry is the tale of the little Mermaid Ursula owns your voice for in return what you thought you wanted

[@WilonaJoy]

I know right….😩

[@tiararoberts7878]

Poor unfortunate souls 😢

[@theofficialvontae]

Exactly. That’s why I’m done chasing this shit. I’m one of the most talented people I know and I’d rather just post when I feel, release music when I can and keep it moving. The music industry is trash.

[@NorthPhilly-zr7xc]

Facts and they don't care about music anymore

[@teamuprgc]

Illusion Is Right! The Business Is For SERVICES!!! If You Create Services Around The Business You Are Better Off! Example Security / Distribution / Copyright / Press Packages / Lawyers / Bar Codes / Social Media PLATFORMS / Venues Etc. For The Artist = Hope You Can Pay Your Advances / Expenses Etc. = Royalties Not Yours If Advance Not Recovered! & The Way They Are Killing Rappers & NOT Finding The ORGANIZERS Of The Shootings Etc. Means Find MUCH $$$ For Security Because More Killings Will Be Organized / Finding The Shooters Don't Stop The Crime! What If The SECURITY Companies Were Involved In The Extortion Etc. Along With The MOBS / Gangs / Government & Corporations? Remember Entertainment Is Tied To EPSTEIN / WIENSTEIN & The Guilty / Suspects In That Case Involving Royals / Presidents Etc, Now Add Illegal Drugs To That! Slowly But Surly They Are Getting Exposed. The Band With The Hat On The Corner Was Better Off Then / They Would ALWAYS Be On The Corner Getting Something To Survive From WITHOUT PAYING ANY ADVANCES! ( That Was Stolen Using The Words NOISE POLLUTION ) = No More Band On The Corner But On Platforms That CONTROLS Your Products & Set Guidelines Of What To / Not To Say Or Get Banned / Taken Down Etc. = CONTROL / DICTATORSHIP ON THE CORNERS / ON PLATFORMS Etc. Example = KANYE WEST. Everything Was Fine When The Band Was On The Corner / People Would Look Forward To See Them Everyday Etc. The Music Business Is A Scam! Fam.

[@MissTeaq]

@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc nor do they care about the artist…like sis said it’s not the fifties… if you don’t do something different why would you expect a different result? They feed off of the good vibes and give almost nothing back.

[@Goldenlightluv]

You choosing to stay on the spiritual side the ancestors are proud. Never sell your soul or sacrifice a love one for worldly things. Ye choose the wrong side knowing his mother was sacrifice but he stayed and now he's breaking cause something big is about to happen every person gone have to pay!

[@actradio94]

@@Goldenlightluv the delusions are wild this week

[@bbbbbbbbbb0]

This kinda stuff is really bad in the kpop industry too.. so many broke, living in terrible dorms and in deep debt.

[@ikesmith1993]

Heavy on the dorms. I be thinking they making money whole time they film variety shows in tiny crammed dorms😭😭😭

[@Imadeyoumadddd]

@@ikesmith1993 fr let no talk about latina music the view high but still living like poor

[@lilith.in.capricorn]

Dorms? Please explain.

[@MariusMoonbeam]

@@lilith.in.capricornK-pop idol groups live in company owned dorms together. Sometimes they have a “dorm mother” who is like a nanny that cleans up after them, makes sure they’re home, etc. if they don’t have a “dorm mother” then they would have their literal manager living with them. They often share rooms and have bunk beds in the beginning. As they get more successful the group will move into a new dorm and (sometimes) get their own groups depending on how big the group is (the average group size I would say nowadays is probably 7 but there are groups with more members). Nowadays groups tend to move out of the dorms and get their own apartments in Seoul but back in the days they would be in those dorms for literal years.

[@WilonaJoy]

@MariusMoonbeam wow! This is really good info. I’ve always know Kpop group usually go through intense training and stuff but everything you said is quite mind blowing. I’m getting inspired right now to talk about the kpop music industry it. Lol…

[@thecat5819]

I remember watching a video Karine Alourde posted a while ago about how the City Girls and all these popular singers who might be flexing their wealth through expensive birkin bags and designer items actually are perpetually broke/in debt due to the excessive spending that their careers might require. Honestly celebrity life does not at all sound like it's worth it, at least in terms of being a celebrity through the entertainment industry. People see it as being rich and famous but its not really even real wealth and the fame has more harm than good while you're under constant scrutiny from onlookers (especially in the internet age).

[@WilonaJoy]

This is a really good point 🙌🏾

[@welikelethabo]

What’s the title of the video

[@Luxebarbie]

They escort to survive

[@jt3409]

@@Luxebarbie yes! A lot of these artists are. Beyoncé for an example is a high end escort, although people worship her…At a certain point in the industry it is not about a persons fame or wealth. But it is SEX and what they can do for rich white men. Rich white men LOVE Beyoncé, she’s a household name.

[@lilith.in.capricorn]

The clothing & accessories are likely owned by the label or management and the artists are essentially loaning it. They don’t own it.

[@a_70s_Baby]

As a former Contracting Officer w/the federal government. Read your contracts, clauses and conditions. Thoroughly. Also, it is a conflict in interest if your management, attorneys, accountants and label owner are one in the same. You’re stuck in those 360 deals. Great commentary young lady. New sub.

[@WilonaJoy]

Thank you 🙏🏾 💖

[@marie-francoiset9402]

I'm curious. If theres a conflict of interest, why doesn't that render the contract null & void? why are artists under the age of 18 bound by contracts they couldn't legally agree to? even if their parents signed when they were underage they should have brand new contracts with independent lawyers when they get to be 18. including higher royalties and the ability to own their masters. why are the predatory practices of the music industry allowed? couldn't do that in the housing industry, right?

[@tangemclemore177]

This is why normal people need to stop worshipping/idolizing these celebrities and wishing for their lifestyles.

[@Kayzblog]

This is frightening and at the same time an eye-opener. As someone who wanted to be in the music industry, I changed my mind after watching several videos like these one and reading articles about artists who are "modern day slaves". All I can say is, music isn't for the faint of heart.

[@WilonaJoy]

Honestly! It’s not for the faint of heart at all 😮‍💨

[@lakendraburdette2247]

People don’t like her but when Nicki did an interview about why she refused to sign a 360 deal and broke it down it made sense. She said something like I can’t just think about the right now what happens when I get 50, 60 years old and can’t tour and stuff I have to make sure I am able to eat off of my hard work.

[@remyroland8016]

Nicki actually signed a 360 deal with Young and Cash Money and Lil Wayne sold all of her records including those of Drake to Universal and Republic Records to get out of his horrible contract but we don't know if she owns her masters again since she's in Republic.

[@ieatalldayandimstillhungry626]

@@remyroland8016 This is incorrect. Lil Wayne sold the group records not the solo records so Nicki still own her solo records. She already said she never signed an 360 deal. 360 deal mean that the label gets a cut of everything the artist does.

[@niaedmonds3342]

@@ieatalldayandimstillhungry626 nah, from what i googled Lil wayne did indeed sell Nickis masters

[@ieatalldayandimstillhungry626]

@@niaedmonds3342 How can he sell something he doesn't own? Nicki doesn't own her group records. The group records are like collaborative albums & compilation albums of all of artist. Lil Waune only sold those records. Nicki owns her solo records, so he can't those. Nicki already said that she owns her solo masters.

[@niaedmonds3342]

@@ieatalldayandimstillhungry626 Interesting

[@Sunniyy]

I believe most of us at one point lost sight that outside of the glits and glam people are regular people. Most of the mtv cribs we saw were rented out just to shoot the show. I think they build this dream world to lure more people them. To anyone who genuinely love creating music. Stay grounded and keep your feet on the ground. Most think about the fame and etc. That part isn't real. It's a illusion for the outside world. There's so many ways to be a artist now. Just keep your intentions pure. Lots of ppl. get into the industry for the wrong reason and end up going down. Don't get to down about everything. Artistry was never supposed to be a breeding ground for idolism, but people are trying to sell a lifestyle to potential people

[@WilonaJoy]

This is a really good point! 🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾

[@farahwork2552]

amazing insight

[@David-ej1ps]

💯

[@Christinekehindemusic]

I almost signed a contract with a record label but the thought of someone determining my image and what I do didn't sit well with me. I value my peace, let me do my thing at my own pace with God's help.

[@WilonaJoy]

Honestly, that is most likely the best way to go. Being an independent artist instead of being signed is harder and takes more time but, I think at the end of the day it’s worth it.

[@Christinekehindemusic]

@@WilonaJoy Exactly 👍

[@beatinmotion]

💖💝💗

[@AllThingsAnime2]

“TLC, they are this girl group from like a really really long time ago” umm.. they are from the 90s and early 00s. They ain’t THAT old just saying..

[@mrs.camilliajones3560]

Right! I was wondering if I was the only one who caught that and was a tad triggered 😂 long long ago would be a phrase I would use to reference artist from the 30s. Not the 90s and early 2000s 😂

[@alias4506]

This is the internet age. They’re old!! 🤣🌝

[@evybabe_]

Even me I know this group but I’m French and born in 2004😭

[@itsjordyn6219]

Lordddd😭😭

[@cyannhenderson8049]

Im saying and I was born mid 2000s, she made me feel old saying that 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fhxs]

I have a family member that actually lives in an area in Atlanta with a lot of popular artists and he’s just a somewhat entry level software developer. A couple years out of school didn’t even go to school for tech & does his work in his PJ pants. It just puts things into perspective. A lot of these artists are over their head & overspending so much on top of their debt to keep up an image as well. Designer clothes, exotic cars, stylists, constant beauty appointments traveling on private planes. We don’t know how well a star is doing in comparison to us “normal” people.

[@WilonaJoy]

Well said 💯💯💯

[@IndiGeaux]

I feel that. Uber takes SO much money that I earn as a driver, it’s sickening.

[@elysiumalien]

I work full time as a performing singer in my town. I currently make the same amount I did when I was serving tables but now I'm loving what I do at least. I used to think I wanted to be famous from my music but after meeting some of these rich broke artists IRL - it's true. HOLLYWOOD is FAKE! The loan part is true when you get a record label. You use the money they give you to create your 'product' AKA your music. Isn't it crazy how TLC was holding all those grammy awards saying they have no money.

[@WilonaJoy]

Yeah… before I used to think I’ll make money from my music but, I’ve now accepted the fact that I can’t depend on that. I’ll make my $$$ from other things instead $ invest in myself [my music]…

[@SuchANatural]

Wasn’t nothing simple about her apartment. Was gorgeous and la is expensive so ain’t no telling how much that penthouse costs.

[@WilonaJoy]

Yeah…. It was beautiful…🫶🏾

[@MissAmeriNegro]

4k-5k for a decent 2-3 bedroom apartment in LA

[@lilith.in.capricorn]

I agree with your original assessment. The price is expensive but the interior was vv simple/basic. In another country, the cost per month that they’re paying would go further in another country.

[@CircumstancesNeverMatter]

People need to leave Rihanna alone she has put out soooooo much music to last for a lifetime and she literally spent most of her youth singing. I’m glad she’s hesitant to jump back into music I don’t blame her at all.

[@ML-ni1tk]

This is so heartbreaking. Why is this not talked about enough? Wouldn't it be easier to take a personal loan from the bank than sign a record deal? How much to record companies influence an artist's popularity?

[@WilonaJoy]

Honestly, a loan from the bank might be better 😅. Major record labels can usually help an artist go MAINSTREAM because of the extremely huge budget they have. One example was when Billie Eilish released Happier Than Ever; I wasn’t really in a hurry to listen to it. But then, I kept seeing it every where on KZbin. Like consistently for a longggg time it was insane. Lol… So one day I was like, “you know what, I’ll check it out”. Cause I was sooooo tired of seeing it every time I opened YT.😁 Also, record labels have a lot more connections amongst other things and can make an artist know world wide.

[@violetstonebeats]

Loans from the bank require a good credit score, especially when you consider the large sums of money artists get in advances. Idk of many banks that would give a 500k loan that isn't for a house or a car, especially if you don't own a house already, which most artists don't. And then ofc connections and such

[@deenaprice1524]

You can't get any radio exposure without signing. You probably can't book certain concert venues without signing, too. They own all major music marketing avenues.

[@Zellymackintosh]

Lol what do you mean not talked about enough???? Theres tons of videos on this , just youtube it

[@marie-francoiset9402]

If they try to get a bank loan, what will they use for collateral?

[@nonnieJ94]

Chloe is one the of the few “artists” that are actual artists that signed a bad deal. Most artists now sign deals where they agree to be a face and all music, aesthetics, and lifestyle will be provided as needed by the label to make a profit

[@remyroland8016]

That's my problem with upcoming artists. They must be educated about the music industry.

[@blackronin5578]

as a actor it's much better because our contracts ain't ruthless like that but with acting your still broke until u reach the top 10% because most acting gigs don't pay much unless you got a supporting or lead role but one thing im thankful for is that acting isn't build heavy off of debt like music is n great video by the way just subbed.

[@WilonaJoy]

Thank you Ronin…. Glad you liked the video ☺️🧡🧡🧡

[@neo.5327]

Rihanna had to finesse this shit , even fenty she owns a small percentage of her "company" how she got that money was basically a cut from the bigger cake.

[@Mikirono23]

I had to look that up. Google said she only owns 15% omg

[@LakeishaGoudy]

I believe she owns 50% that's how she was able to become a billionaire.

[@Devi_Seona]

She finessed all people who bought her shitty products, that’s how she became a billionaire. She couldn’t have done it without the music industry, they gave her everything, hits, great public image, and she used that to sell shit at a very expensive price to her fans.

[@cuban9931]

She only owns half as of now

[@neo.5327]

@@Mikirono23 go find out who owns the rest , the man that owns everything , also his white , and I'm not just saying that just to say it.

[@rogerwalker2892]

I'm not into the music industry but it never ceases to amaze me why so many artists hear the horror stories from as far back as Frankie Lyman and Morris Levy in the 50''s, to Jerry Heller and nwa in the 90''S to all of the crooks still operating today and they still sign these terrible contracts. BE AN INDEPENDENT ARTIST AND CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY it's not rocket science for christ sake. Be contented to make $75K to $100K doing you by building your own network and own all your shit, instead of being lured in by empty promises of grandeur to sign away your soul....but that's just me

[@sharrellfaith]

💯

[@bethromelus6172]

It's because it's very hard. Singers have to promote themselves, pay for a team, understand skill development, etc. It's so much painstaking work. I know this because I run my own business. I love being an independent owner but I understand why people didn't choose this path. It's exhausting.

[@girlbrittneygirl]

That's how you outsmart the record labels! First of all, don't go to a record label broke! Stop chasing the idea of what a celebrity should be like! Learn some legal jargon! Listen! There's so many ways to become a millionaire now and days with being in the industry! Most of these musicians are short sighted! One of the worse things that the industry ever did was let normal people see how they lived! The mystery needs to comeback! I could be wrong but I have a feeling that the industry is about to start over ! This industry as it is now, can't be sustained!

[@Goldenlightluv]

Keep spreading these things goddess! The ancestors are so proud of you! Hollywood and definitely the music industry comes with a price. Selling your soul or sacrificing another person soul.

[@reneesmith8488]

It's very telling that Rihanna with the success of her music career from her teen years to now , Fenty made her a billionaire despite selling so much and being such a HUGE star

[@tayyibahz9343]

Beyoncé played both of them. They signed a crappy deal and half the stuff they flash isn’t even theirs. Even if they come to their senses and wanted to leave they can’t cuz they are stuck in the contract they signed. Honestly with all this information out about how greedy the music industry is you’d think artists would sign better contracts 😂

[@WilonaJoy]

lol…. I know right! I feel some artists probably are just desperate to be noticed. So they go into the deal thinking they’ll be able to work something out later on. But then when later on comes, they realize they can’t, and now they’re stuck.

[@tayyibahz9343]

@@WilonaJoy 💯

[@zarario4444]

Beyonce gave them the opportunity to be in the music industry.

[@tayyibahz9343]

@@zarario4444 they were already in the industry. If they had jus waited a lil longer they could’ve signed with someone else. Beyoncé isn’t even promoting them that well. It’s not all Beyoncé’s fault tho. The songs Chloe has been dropping haven’t even been charting and instead of trying to make a hit she is on vacation!

[@KnowledgeSeeker78491]

Beyonce got her a hard on the eyes guy so I'm guessing Chole better do something similar or make some hits

[@SusanSingsSongs]

Very glad to see young women understanding the facts of the industry. Irene Cara who just passed away was a music icon to many of us when we were young was ripped off and blacklisted at the age of 24 and so much of her great genius was lost to the public. Then I watched Musicians in my generation like TLC get ripped off and it was such a wakeup call. I am an Artist and have stayed independent and have been much happier because of this. Good luck in all your endeavors!

[@WilonaJoy]

Thank you so much Susie ❤️

[@irisikey]

I don’t think Chloe is broke though, she is just not being paid as much as she deserves. I think her apartment tour was amazing. She is wise not to pretend like others and put themselves in more debts. Record labels are businesses and most times they are looking their profit. the music industry isn’t easy. U right.

[@tristanwatkins7046]

I was a music business major and this Was all told to us in our first class. Good video

[@Kiki32131]

I don't feel bad for upcoming artists because so many real situations are available to the public so a person can learn from others' mistakes. They say to always have a lawyer look over all contracts before signing.

[@katgreer6113]

i thought some labels don't allow people use their own lawyers?

[@helloxonsfan]

*I've said it before & I'll say it again... the worst thing to have ever happened to the music industry are the major record companies & the bloodsuckers who run them...!!! Period...!!!*

[@kingstonstreet3726]

I noticed something recently the relationship between Nicki and Taylor swift who is very brand aware but I noticed they supporting each other ,so I realized they are seen in a similar way in business industry

[@mohdshow]

People in the music industry (producers, record label people, etc.) are truly greedy and I think it’s safe to say PURE EVIL! I saved my hard earned money to make an album and when I did record it .. they didn’t give me the rights to publish it and do what I wanted to do with it, they wanted me to sign another contact to shoot music videos. Most of them don’t care about the artists .. the well-being of an artist and they don’t even care about the music you make .. all they care about is making money out of you .. this topic is so triggering to me but I just wanna share this so my voice is heard.. anyway I wish all artists who are struggling the best 🌹

[@mohdshow]

I was OUT immediately after they tried to make me sign another contacts and pay them more .. I chose my mental health and safety over music 💔 I still make music in my own way but certainly not the same way I once envisioned

[@WilonaJoy]

OMG!!! I’m so so sorry you had to go through that🥺🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾. I’m an upcoming musician myself & I’m beginning to see alotttt of unpleasant things. My next video actually talks about what the industry does to people and how artists are just a means to an end for them [the end being making money]. They don’t care what happens to the individual as long as they make more money…. It’s quite sad tbh…

[@mohdshow]

@@WilonaJoy best of luck 🤞🏽🤍

[@TheAliyah899]

I like this video. I think it was very thought out and you did a lot of research and editing and it all came together very well! Its sad that most people are slaves to the industry. When i think of actors and musicians i imagine they are the elite. Im learning as I get older that isnt true. Celebrities are normal people too.

[@WilonaJoy]

Thanks Nicole… I appreciate you watching 💖💖💖. Yeah celebrities are just people too…

[@sherrondanance3049]

I see people with apt like Chloe and they just have a regular customer service job! The music industry work the hell out of these artist

[@Le-Nor]

This is true Musicians we work so hard for so little financially. It’s. Hard stay strong.

[@WilonaJoy]

I know right…🥺

[@jolaviolante8212]

Alot of entertainer has joined cult groups and there's doors that they must go through to advance their career. So many artist are exposing the dark side of what they have to do stay elevated.

[@aaeats1694]

This is AMAZING! you know how to make great videos with great explanation and the editing!! yes GIRL!

[@WilonaJoy]

Oh thank you so so much…. Means a lot! 🥹❤️❤️❤️

[@baddiewiththebooks]

yes, artists should have more control and be significantly compensated for their work. they should not have to go in substantial amounts of debt. absolutely. yes, these record labels’ practices need to be dismantled and reformed. however, I feel like this is bigger than just those things. the capitalistic, leeching, imbalanced, hierarchical society that we live in will have us regular, 9-5 working people thinking that these celebrities are broke. they might not be paid what they're worth, they might be in debt, but them being “broke”, I believe is subjective. as someone from the U.S. living in a society with a wage and wealth gap, systemic issues, health care cost crisis, and a homelessness epidemic, and myself doing things I never imagined doing like joining the army bc I thought it was my only way out atm, can’t help but to feel not empathy, but a minimal form of sympathy for these artists. in my opinion, Chloe’s apartment is gorgeous and her needs are met by having it. we are conditioned to believe that we should have it all. more, more, more. exorbitance, but at what cost?

[@WilonaJoy]

This is a very good point 💯💯💯💖

[@baddiewiththebooks]

Thank you ❤️

[@LavendaMonroe]

I said this about the acting industry also, its all still a business at the end of the day. Companies want to make money off of you. Its not charity its business. Its either you get used or do the using.

[@WilonaJoy]

tough world 🤧

[@artistaroundtheblock2047]

Also girl don’t forget that although the apartment isn’t that huge, you’ll find that the fixtures and fittings are so expensive. Like the couch will be worth $300 000.

[@queenmari5562]

Everything she’s saying is absolutely true, but music legends been saying this for years and look where they ended up. Either broke and homeless looking for the next come up or DEAD smh 🤦🏽‍♀️ nothing in life is just given to you, remember that. Great video #newsubscriber ❤

[@WilonaJoy]

Thanks Queen! 🥹❤️

[@queenmari5562]

@@WilonaJoy you’re welcome ☺️

[@richellec1632]

Chloe is not broke. Let’s not forget she has royalties from her old music as well as all of her acting appearances. Also most celebrities are styled and don’t own their clothes so that’s not an expense that is their own anyways.

[@prettyalmonddutchess2686]

But the record deal that they get does go towards clothing and makeup, producing, touring and more..so I kinda doubt it there’s artists that live in these large mansions and cars but the label owns them 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@BillionaireDubaii]

It’s not like a loan it is a loan

[@richellec1632]

@@prettyalmonddutchess2686 she only lives in an apartment

[@prettyalmonddutchess2686]

@@richellec1632 yea I saw which she deserves more

[@McNellyCoCoNelly]

I almost got signed by a record label they told me I was going to be rich,I had no problem with signing the deal but I had problems with the people behind the label,it didn't sit right with me,so I didn't sign and I'm independent still and happy..I feel free!!🤣🤣

[@WilonaJoy]

Awwwww…. Glad everything worked out for you… There’s nothing like being free tbh 🫶🏾

[@kokoclaytv]

I’m not quite sure how TLC and Chloe Bailey actually relate or compare in terms of business. They come from 2 different eras of the music industry, at the time of TLC, music and CDs was a great way to make money with touring, brand deals etc…. That advance money was usually quickly recuperated due to the price they were selling these albums and how cheap CDs were produced. The 90s are reputed to be the golden age of the music industry… TLC sold MILLIONS of albums, but they signed a BAD DEAL. Chloe Bailey just come from that Era where music is not selling but streaming: it barely brings any money so every artist nowdays are kind of a liability for record labels, so that why she has to wear many hats, like most artists nowdays, to bring that bread. Music has become a platform and only a very few select of music Superstars are living good with it.

[@WilonaJoy]

. . .

[@dantevale5008]

First time discovering you! I like how relaxed and candid this video was; subscribed!

[@WilonaJoy]

Thanks Dante! Really appreciate you being here ☺️💖💖💖

[@NezD]

Well as someone who lives and works in Hollywood, a birdie told me that she was very expensive to manage overall. A lot of resources had to be wasted on cleaning up her image, back peddling her ridiculous comments, and tryna control her brand. I was a huge Doja Cat fan since MOO but the scandal around her extreme dislike for black men, let the the doja hit her on the way out.

[@WilonaJoy]

Oh Wow didn’t know they were trying that hard to clean Doja’s image…

[@charlie6909]

Lol that was somebody who made up the rumor that she hated black people because she said no to him. He apologized.

[@NezD]

@@charlie6909 😂 ok bro

[@Rice10120]

Doja Cat doesn't have to like black men. Black men verbalize who they don't like a lot and most of the time it's black women. BM don't even like each other.

[@NezD]

@@Rice10120 With no name or profile picture, is your POV from a black man’s, black woman’s, white man’s, white woman’s or other ethnicities perspective? BM will riot if another BM or BW is killed: I hardly see white americans, even the ones who say more white people are killed by police, doing that. In the black community, BM & BW call each other “brotha” and “sista”. No other community talks like that so please clarify.

[@childofthegoddess4207]

Lizzo isn’t the exception. Lizzo is it. This generation of female artists is so so proud to be who they are. Hopefully they can get together and love each other cuz it’s really beautiful to see.

[@CircumstancesNeverMatter]

Lizzo isn’t it at all. One moment she’s doing the most pretending she “loves herself” the next she having a breakdown drink a green smoothie talking about how she feels bad. So I don’t think Lizzo even has high self esteem at all I feel she’s pretending and it’s obvious. All of these “artists” are pretending to be comfortable in their own skin but they’re not that’s why plastic surgery is the new eye liner. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@DizzyCawna]

TLC is the perfect example of how the industry is especially if you're young with a crappy contract. They even took out left eye cause she signed and didnt wanna participate. She wanted to do her own album and go on vacation to Honduras they took her life so quik. Sad

[@QueenZsWorld]

when you realize the 90s were 30 years ago... in the 90s, that would be like the 60s.

[@imsorryreacts]

Lol I actually remember when I first saw her home tour too, i was expecting more as well. I was thrown off but then I was like “eh maybe she’s a minimalist”

[@WilonaJoy]

Minimalist; lol…😅

[@Honestlylovely]

I hate when people complain about the life they chose

[@kelsiiie9786]

You sound kind of dumb, you can choose a certain path and not know exactly what pops out on you during the walk, everyone makes mistakes💀 we live and we learn

[@Honestlylovely]

@@kelsiiie9786 you sound really dumb life is all about choices for action there is a reaction deal with it smart dumb ass

[@Luni144]

This was a great video! It’s such an important topic that I feel like often times get overlooked completely. Great job :)

[@WilonaJoy]

Thanks Luna… Glad you liked it 🙏🏾🧡🧡🧡

[@Maggietheebaddie1948]

I’m glad I’m not in rush to be artist. I have character and integrity and patience and my spirits and ancestors and self esteem and self worth.

[@414_kiaraaa3]

God bless you , so happy to be here and to be apart of the conversation . Let’s keep it going ❤ waking up the younger generations .

[@WilonaJoy]

Thanks for watching Kiaraaa 💖

[@dystanysam9896]

I think that Chloe should just dropped beyonce honestly bey isn't helping out her Chloe at all Hallee just got lucky from Disney but once the view comes in Disney would dropped her afterward Beyonce is just a good look for them because her name is popular in the music industry / kissing her ass so of course ppl would worked with these girls because of beyonce at the same time of they wasn't in her circle nobody won't even work with them

[@WilonaJoy]

This is a really good point! 🙌🏾🫶🏾

[@slimbee2738]

I agree. Chloe sounds at times too similar to Beyonce. It doesn’t help with the constant comparisons and the fact she is her own artist and people cannot separate the two. If Chloe wasn’t connected to beyonce at all and released her music, she probably would have a genuine fanbase and not a collective of ppl on Twitter who always come together after a song release and shit on her.

[@tayyibahz9343]

Beyoncé played both of them and they signed a crap contract. Even if they come to their senses and want to leave they can’t. They are stuck in the contract. Honestly, with all this information out about the music industry you’d think they’d be able to sign a proper contract 😂

[@KamikoAi]

Beyoncé signed them for management deal and creative production. Columbia is their label.

[@mahlatse8605]

@@KamikoAi these people don't listen man. They don't want to. They want their situation to be so bad

[@davidrichards1295]

Thanks for the update; God Bless you.

[@WilonaJoy]

You’re welcome 🫶🏾

[@berleyk]

Labels pay an advance, an advance is on the contract this is something you agree too. You pay back in sales, shows etc it’s a loan it’s a debt.

[@lane89]

Thank you for this peace it was phenomenal woman.

[@WilonaJoy]

Glad you liked it 🥲💖❤️💖

[@Deetrio]

This is why the best way to do it, is to start your own Indie label/brand. Release your music under your own label, push hard. Then just do publishing deals, rather than full contractual agreements. Build your own, the internet is a good market...

[@WilonaJoy]

Yeah it is…

[@Moana_moo]

That’s why Ye done what he done:he wanted out of all his deals so he can release music independent and have his own independent fashion brand. And it will succeed his fandom we back him enough to have his next album go straight no.1 on Billboard

[@zarario4444]

Ye who admires Hitler?

[@Moana_moo]

@@zarario4444 hinestly i don’t agree with everything he say or do in fact right now i donr cancel him im still a huge fan and look up to him but im concerned for him he literally said”he wanna see his mom” and this self distructive behaviour he done recently make me extremely concerned and worried. I don’t support everything he say or do but i ain’t cancel Ye

[@Moana_moo]

@asava17 he still have a lot of supporters on social media. I ain’t defending Ye nor cancelling Ye im concerned about Ye. He’s spiralling and need help and before ya say”mental illness ain’t an excuse for what he say” it absolutely is like mental illness can make u say shit u don’t mean it don’t mean he shouldn’t be held accountable for what he say but not right now 1st he need help. Like he don’t accept help bcuz part of the illness is not believing u have a mental illness when u that deep into the episode. I can support Ye and still be a fan and not defend his recent actions but Pray he get the help he truly need bcuz he’s suicidal. He said “i wanna see my mom”. His recent comments are a cry for help

[@richellec1632]

Hopefully this sickening exploitation of artists stops though

[@BillionaireDubaii]

Chloe closet is so small wtf I would’ve never imagined she is wayyyyyyyy to talented bro

[@WilonaJoy]

Lol…

[@sherrondanance3049]

Thank you for covering this topic, this is really detailed!

[@WilonaJoy]

You’re welcome! Thanks for watching 🥰💖🧡💖🧡

[@BeautifulEarthJa]

Would love an update on this with the Diddy lawsuits.

[@AvecPoesie]

This is a very random question, but I am going to be moving into a new Home 🏡 soon and Lilac is my favorite color. Do you know the exact paint color on that back wall with the window behind you? I am going to be scheduling painters to come in soon, and I adore that shade. Thank you 🖤

[@WilonaJoy]

Hi Avec, no I’m not really sure what colour tbh. The colour on my wall is like a light beige colour. What is giving it that touch of purple on the back wall with the window, is the purple led light I had on for this video. So the purple led light blended with the light beige colour of the wall, giving it that unique lilac colour you see. I hope I was able to help a little…. Perhaps you could take a screenshot and show it to your painter?

[@AvecPoesie]

@@WilonaJoy Oh dear! I hadn't realized! Thank you however, for the insight. A screenshot will likely help me more. What type of LED light is it that projects the Lilac-colored light, might I ask? I may get one of those, while I am at it. Haha...

[@WilonaJoy]

Lol… sure. I got it from Amazon. Here’s the link a.co/d/b8OYRk0

[@AvecPoesie]

@@WilonaJoy I appreciate you putting up with me and my asinine questions. Your video and your style of communication is very endearing and quite interesting to watch. I found the topic informative and intriguing thanks to your focus on it. Thank you for your replies 🖤

[@WilonaJoy]

Glad I could help… You’re welcome 💖

[@tbj4855]

Shit Chloe Bailey prolly paying 5 bands a month for that la apartment that’s not no regular shit 😂😂

[@mrs.camilliajones3560]

Right!

[@WilonaJoy]

Lol…. 😅

[@shanelp7489]

From what it looks like she lives in Glendale or Burbank, CA. That’s pretty much where majority of Hollywood and the elite live. It’s like 20 minutes away from Hollywood. Renting out there is minimum 5,000 so your right on the nail.

[@angellaroberts9852]

Being popular doesn't mean you have money, Honey 🍯 the stress of being a celeb, ah boy

[@keshaalbusaidy2929]

Amazing video and very informative. Here's a topic idea, sort of like a continuation. Try to find out how many popular artists own their own music and how many don't.

[@WilonaJoy]

Thank you 😊… Glad you liked it ❤️. Oh that’s a really good one… It will be on my to do for upcoming videos…

[@sicarresupreme]

TLC i didn't understand why they was broke because of the records they sold but Chloe has not sold any records

[@Joshdifferent]

Great topic and perspective! 👏🏽💯‼️

[@WilonaJoy]

Thanks Josh! And thanks for watching 🙌🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾

[@kimwhatmatters4085]

They word it wrong the problem isn’t paying back the loan it’s the fact that the payments don’t come from the overall profit comes from the small percentage that they get so if they get two or three usually under 10% that 90% profit is not going towards the debt it’s only their small percentage so that’s what makes it extremely unfair on top of the interest. also while they’re paying that they get a smaller percentage while they’re in debt and once that it’s over they get a bigger percentage so to ensure that they never get that bigger percentage they always keep them in debt. They inflate the cost of things so their music video should be $20,000 but they say it’s 300,000 that’s what makes it unfair. same goes for it how she said she’s a producer so she saves money in that aspect because they may pay a producer half $1 million(in house producer so they get part of the money) or say you’re going to work in certain studios they’re all in-house they won’t usually allow you to do it at home and when you do save money they just find other ways to say that they spent money.

[@WilonaJoy]

Wow! This is an extremely great point… Thanks for sharing 💖

[@darkmatter345]

Luckily independent publishing through social media today is possible

[@marathonbleu]

Dam Chloe!! 😩😩 I knew her and Halle only signed for a million dollars but dammm no producing credit??

[@WilonaJoy]

I know right….🥺

[@adamamunu3046]

New subscriber here. I love your aura, and this video was eye-opening to watch!

[@WilonaJoy]

Thank youuuuu 🥹 I really appreciate you ❤️🧡❤️🧡❤️🧡❤️

[@madkrakatoa]

Who owns the masters owns the money. If an artist don't own the masters, doesn't have royalties throught writting credits, he/she will be the last one getting paid. And if the albums sales, touring and brand deals doesn't reach to cover the end of the line, the artist is screwed. Some people thing that if an artist made $25M in albums/ streaming, $75m in tours the artist gets $100M in the bank, they don't...and if you have to divide it between a band or a 13 member kpop group damn. Fans always boast about their artist being rich...but truth is that they pay for everything from nails to make up/ hair to clothes, promotion and radio spins, to tour costs, logitic, crew, hotels planes, album printing, studio hours , producers and thank yourself breathing is still free. It all depends on the company and the contract they got. it's never 100% the artist and rarely 50-50.

[@justinevillarreal5003]

God showed Me This ALONG time aGo.. annnd Im Glad he diD.. IM Glad lots of Ppl are talkin abouT this legal abuse. AND IF THATS YOUR MUSIC AT THE END .. GURL YOU ARE TALENTED!! Love iT

[@WilonaJoy]

Thank you for watching! I appreciate you 💖… That’s not my music at it end; it’s a song I got from epidemic sound. Here’s a link to mine if you’d like to check it out 🙈 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWW9ZK2Ii9WNe68

[@Naisy77]

I love your commentary ❤️✨

[@WilonaJoy]

Thank you Naisy 🥹💖🧡💖🧡

[@kingstonstreet3726]

9-5 is modern day slavery just a rebranding long hours low pay

[@7102cc]

This is why Ye did what he did to get out of his contracts. He use to say the industry own him for life

[@breekwhal]

good compilation of information!

[@WilonaJoy]

Glad you liked it! 🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾

[@plaza.angelina]

If Chole is fat looking like that then call me fat honey she looks fabulous lollllllll😂

[@joshuagordon7949]

Girl not you said TLC is a group from a “long time ago”…I’m finna block you😂😂😂😂 cause I feel old now and I’m born in 92🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@WilonaJoy]

Nooooo I didn’t mean it that way😭. 92 is not old AT ALL. I really didn’t intend for it to sound the way people are talking it 🥺💖

[@atarakay9900]

I always try to remember I’m richer than rich peoples debt

[@WilonaJoy]

Awwww… that’s a good philosophy 💯

[@joll_d1303]

Honestly it’s not about having real talent these days… it’s just about who is more relevant and how u look

[@WilonaJoy]

Sadly 🥲

[@waterlily579]

This!!!! Deserves lots of likes and views🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@WilonaJoy]

Thank you 🙌🏾. Thanks for watching 💖💖💖

[@Elizabeth-mf3dn]

What a nightmare - you work so hard and “make it happen” and they just take most of your hard earned money!

[@eensanom]

Girl you’re so cute.. the way you talk, the way you move.. Wish we could be friends 💕🥺

[@WilonaJoy]

Awwwww thank you ☺️💖… you can send me a DM on IG🙈

[@selenesaint]

that little chloe interview snippet is the releast i've seen her in years.. can i have the link??

[@WilonaJoy]

Sure… kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnS7aKiYjqeYeJo

[@fallenwing25]

I love chloe's apartment!

[@WilonaJoy]

Me too ☺️

[@micpowers1136]

TLC needs no introduction.

[@SuchANatural]

Tlc is not from a really really long time ago. Come on now🤣 great reference for your point for record contracts. Was only the mid 90-early 2000s though

[@WilonaJoy]

Right 😁

[@codyTHEEstallion]

could u provide links to the ppl u featured in the vid? i wanna watch their vids as well

[@WilonaJoy]

Madisyn Brown & Honest… they are both YT’s

[@Aymar_TANOH]

please can you send the link of the video of the girl talking at 6:28 ??? GREAT VIDEO BTW

[@WilonaJoy]

Her name is Madisyn Brown. She’s a KZbinr… oh thank you 🙌🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾

[@Aymar_TANOH]

@@WilonaJoy thank you so much , I love your videos ❤️❤️

[@WilonaJoy]

@@Aymar_TANOH thank you…. Means alot 🫶🏾🫶🏾🫶🏾

[@wolfmoon9816]

so mad that ppl called her and callin her fat, she has body Id kill for even when she gained weight and she obv lucky that she gains it in legs and bum whereas for me havin hormone problem and stress problem it stays in the middle.....I cannot believe anyone call chloe fat thats insane she literally has body (even when thicker) that girls would dream of

[@Jasmine-ot8br]

Ok. You lost me when you said “TLC is this girl group from a really really long time ago . “ Chile lmfao even I (born in 92) have respect for groups who were famous RIGHT BEFORE I WAS BORN although I have no recollection of them . TLC Is like what the highest selling girl group or sum? That’s wild

[@WilonaJoy]

I respect TLC… sorry I didn’t mean it the way you’re taking it….🫶🏾

[@FLdancer00]

Same. I can't respect someone's opinion on the music industry who can't even accurately describe one of the most successful girl groups of all time.

[@Jasmine-ot8br]

@@WilonaJoy I appreciate your comment . I think you rubbed many of us the wrong way and it may be beneficial to edit that part out and re-upload . Just a suggestion . Cuz everything else is a yes, face, thumbnail, title etc

[@Jasmine-ot8br]

@@FLdancer00 SERIOUSLY ONE OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL

[@Devi_Seona]

They are just the best girls group of all times... absolute legends.

[@Traumadj]

It’s no excuse in this day an age too much info out there to make these make these mistakes. Your record label has to nominate you. You can’t nominate yourself. That’s why you sign yourself to yourself (your own label because the label is paid first

[@josss_ie8083]

Love you're videos!! you always say what I'm thinking 💗

[@WilonaJoy]

Awwww… thanks for watching Josssie! I appreciate you 💖💖💖

[@homiesuncensored]

you’re amazing❤

[@WilonaJoy]

Thanks Lisa 🥰💖💖💖