Rick and Morty has Become Tiresome

Rick and Morty's sixth season, while a monumental improvement compared to Season 5, is still running into problems with its storytelling, character development, and its reliance on meta humor. Here's why Season 7 needs to shake things up, among other rants.
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Sonic Frontiers OST - Dear Father
Persona 3 Portable OST - Way of Life (Instrumental)
Magister Negi Magi OST - Sunny Dance
EPIC Rick and Morty Theme (Cover) by PiscesRising
Picross 3D Round 2 OST - Challenge
The Legend of Heroes: Kuro no Kiseki OST - アークライド解決事務所
Spark the Electric Jester 3 OST - Shopalo’s Goods
Persona 3 OST - Iwatodai Dorm
Go Go Hypergrind OST - Creature (Outro song)
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[@andrazprelec8263]

I'm still wondering what happened to the unbeatable white label video

[@Cartoonshi]

@@andrazprelec8263 KZbin essentially punished me upon uploading it by not sending it out to my subscribers, and then deducting up to over 100 subscribers after an hour had passed because no one was watching it. I hadn't made a video in a while too so it wasn't ideal to keep it up if it was going to negatively impact my channel. It'll be reuploaded some day though.

[@limeyell0w945]

@@Cartoonshi didn't that also happen to the persona anime video

[@Cartoonshi]

@@limeyell0w945 Yep. I’m more concerned with getting the Persona video seen tbh as it’s the hardest I’ve ever worked on a video and it was in the works for nearly a year.

[@limeyell0w945]

@@Cartoonshi i see

[@elingeniero4337]

If you ever felt stupid, remember that there were people who believed that watching Rick and Morty made you smarter.

[@westerling8436]

that actually makes me feel stupider

[@hu6284]

Lmao so cringe now that you think about it

[@ChristianSuppes]

It made me depressed.

[@zandergonzales671]

You had to think about it?!?

[@oscargonzalez7361]

And then theres people who believe that simply disliking rick and morty makes them smarter than people who like it. It's a never ending cycle

[@null0286]

“I turned myself into a felon Morty! I’m Felon Riiiiick!”

[@null0286]

Oh shoot he liked my comment

[@deathcart4446]

@iHunt 🤓

[@deathcart4446]

@iHunt "Guys please stop being meann to me pleaseeeee"

[@cope_induced]

@@deathcart4446 damn yall just wiped him out of existence 💀

[@dryfox11]

@@deathcart4446 Can’t see his comment but ihunt is a nerd

[@Stratoblast]

To quote a certain critic: Stating the problem with your show/movie does not make it go away.

[@elliottpak]

Ah, I see you have watched the work of Mr Enter.

[@southparkfirefly]

@wonkybones Doug Walker being smarter is debatable lol

[@justinambru8529]

@@southparkfirefly After that pink floyd review DEFINETLY.

[@davemccage7918]

Velma….

[@user-se6kk2wi6x]

​@@elliottpakOh god I used to watch him. Good that he's trying to redeem himself after the absolute dump of 2020.

[@billcypher1579]

I feel like the state of Rick and Morty can be summarized as, "I understand you're doing a joke, it's just not very funny."

[@mmgmagic]

You know, for a show that hates serialisation, Rick and Morty sure do love to set up serialisation!

[@micahcook2408]

And my thing with that is that…. It’s literally YOUR show. If you don’t wanna do serialisation anymore then don’t f-ing do it Lmfao that meta episode just feels like it proves they probably have NOTHING else to come up with in terms of these characters imo.. like I could be wrong and maybe they just wanted to shit on the serialised-wanting crowd (for God knows why), but it makes no sense when you could’ve wrote about ANYTHING else. Like dammit, we KNOW you don’t like story line arcs, you’re not being FORCED to do it bc of your audience. Unless, the episode was an F You to the studio then I could see that, but idk… just felt like a “SHUT UP” to viewers…

[@racool911]

It's cause there are multiple people working on the show, and they clearly have differing opinions on serialization lol

[@Alondro77]

@@racool911 And I don't even understand the problem with serialization. Cause and effect is a part of EVERY ASPECT OF LIFE! Every decision can affect actions and consequences down the line. The BRILLIANT Tennant-era episode "Turn Left" demonstrated this ripple effect. Turning one direction or another can lead you to meet someone OR miss meeting someone, and depending upon how influential that person is and your own effect upon them, the world or more COULD be changed! That's what serialization can bring to sci-fi. Pure satire doesn't need serialization, but it can help when a series lasts more than a couple season of silliness.

[@Servantofthearts]

@@micahcook2408 quick question boss what is serialization ?

[@bigroaststyrone8135]

@@Servantofthearts when a series follows a continuous story over all the episodes

[@normienormie9425]

Watching Rick and Morty is like watching a beloved family member sink deeper and deeper into insanity.

[@toadlord8594]

And to think Inside Job thata could have succeded where Rick and Morty failed but Netflix just wanted to cancel it.

[@AbrasiousProductions]

your right, just like what happened to Dallas (1978-1991) 😭

[@Bob-pe9yo]

@@toadlord8594 Inside Job mad trash 💀💀

[@yiwoon_cr8s]

Or like watching Chris Chan becoming more mentally retarded

[@Micha-cn9py]

@@Bob-pe9yo "this octopus is a degenerate, now laugh"

[@chrisdaughen5257]

I saw the Beth-cest episode coming ever since the season 4 finale. The Beths being passive aggressive while calling each other attractive made me think "Oh no. They aren't setting something up are they?"

[@lucyferos205]

Yeah, that episode has been heavily foreshadowed for awhile

[@cajunking5987]

Narcissism. It’s inevitable.

[@NintendoMeister2260]

They set up the Bethcest more than the serialized stuff.

[@Britdarg]

I think it's fascinating how quickly seasonal rot set in for Rick and Morty. It isn't even 10 years old at this point but it has lost so much of its initial popularity. Family Guy, Simpsons, and South Park were all able to keep their magic and popularity for at least 10 years before interest started to wane

[@dudedude5159]

It is ten years old it debut in Nov or Dec of 2013

[@nexter2930]

True but shows like family guy and the simsons have been running for 30 years now and were the first In terms of popular shows

[@milkywaycafe.]

​@dudedude5159 Yeah but most people got tired of it before this month

[@PunkThrashMetal]

family guy started rotting after its first cancellation so i would actually put it on the same level as rick and morty

[@EpicGamer-fl7fn]

South Park is the only one that has yet to start to rot imo. It had its weaker seasons but overall anything that came out of South park in the past 5 or so years has been a lot better than anything that came out of Family Guy or even Simpsons in the past 10 years. Rick and Morty lost all of its magic since season 4 imo. Seasons 1-3 were fucking amazing and i say this as a person who watched it when season 2 was still releasing. those 31 episodes are classics and bangers compared to the ammount of shit we have to endure throught seasons 4-6. Season 7 now is kinda getting back on the track though it is a pretty sluggish climb back to the top, and there's no guarantee that they wont fall back down in future seasons.

[@kingbash6466]

Recent controversies aside, it's kinda depressing to look back on Rick & Morty when people considered it a breath of fresh air in the medium of western adult-animation. Now, it feels like another raunchy, self-referential, "mature" cartoon except with a sci-fi background and somewhat better animation.

[@sadvec6328]

That's why you should be watching Smiling Friends

[@Emma-ei2zk]

Try inside job, sadly canceled mid season 2 production, but it's amazing and filled that sci fi hole rick and Morty left

[@heavenlyarianator6335]

@@Emma-ei2zk you wrote inside job didnt you

[@trumpaigaming7632]

@@Emma-ei2zk final space too. That show is really good.

[@Emma-ei2zk]

@@trumpaigaming7632 I loved final space ❤

[@Matt-zu2lu]

I can’t wait for the writers of Rick And Morty to make an episode where they totally own this video with meta jokes from Rick that definitely don’t come off as the writers being insecure or spiteful

[@RH_Collective]

How long until the inevitable Velma crossover, where they break the 4th wall for the nth-hundred time to own the trolls?

[@micahcook2408]

@@RH_Collective 😂😂😂

[@sadvec6328]

And they make a character called Cartoonshit to dunk on

[@BeansRiceCornandSpice]

And then they make the parody youtuber die a bloody death and make morty fuck his dad or some shit, idk I don't watch the show anymore

[@Matt-zu2lu]

@@BeansRiceCornandSpice same, I stopped watching after season 3

[@Moon-ms4cy]

Main problem for me is how he's invincible but also loses so many times

[@pyan9660]

It also is very anticlimactic plot-wise, there are no stakes or good resolutions.

[@HyperGolem]

Generally I'm really tired of cynical, depressing and existential TV shows. As I've gotten older I find myself liking simpler, more wholesome and down to earth shows, like in the old days 20-30 years ago. Especially in these trying times it feels like I need something more optimistic and positive to watch.

[@harry-hp1je]

Yep. Real life is depressing af. If I wanted misery I’d turn on the news. I don’t want that in my entertainment I watch, I want an escape from the misery. That’s why I enjoy Star Trek - it poses questions of morality and explores what makes us human but is also fun and optimistic and aware of its sci-fi silliness at times. I recommend it if you haven’t seen it :)

[@MrHimyhimy]

This is why I love ‘friends’. It’s a complete contrast to the depressing nature of pretty much everything I watch

[@EvilDick1995]

Yeah I think I crossed that threshold myself when I turned 25 a couple years ago. Still find nihilistic humor funny when it’s clever or actually funny but if something is being nihilistic for the sake of it, I don’t give it the time of day.

[@leotheliongames]

Bobs burgers a million times over is the most optimistic adult animated show I’ve ever seen, it’s so nice seeing a loving family

[@projektkobra2247]

I see what you did there.

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

Anybody else here remember when Rick and Morty was that brilliant new show that stood out from the crowd and was bursting with potential? Good times,good good times......

[@eatatjoes6751]

I keep praising the promo commercials they did for the first and second season over and over because at first that's what I expected it to be, and for a while, it was.

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

Soon that's gonna be only 20% of the show. It's like a joyful child that contracte. I just realized how screwed up that metaphor is halfway through typing it sorry.

[@dataexpunged93N15]

I remember when season 2 ended and the hiatus to season 3, all the speculation about Evil Morty, how the story would go on after The Smiths find out what happened to Rick and Morty with the love potion, would Rick improve as a person, etc. was all very hot and interesting topics, because we thought they could happen. Instead, after and kinda during season 3, we got writers who hate us and tell us we're dumb for caring at all. All that potential for plot beats, drama, interesting twists... Replaced by meta humor, to give us the middle finger for wanting a show we liked to improve.

[@barbarakirk3064]

@@dataexpunged93N15 It got to me over Christmas when the E4 channel showed the episode where Rick and Morty were sat in chairs watching incidents that had happened previously on the telly, and then that was followed by the anime episodes that were subtitled for UK viewers - I had to smile when the animation team at Studio Twinkle was credited for one of these as Twinkle was the name of the kitten in The Goodies' Kitten Kong episode (by the way, thanks to That's TV for repeating a number of the BBC episodes and all the LWT ones). I felt that the anime episodes were replacements for the main episodes.

[@sneeds]

No I never got the hype even from season 1. It has always felt pretentious

[@shoxy-the-pinecone6113]

Y'know when community had an incest PSA I thought it was a joke about special message episodes in sitcoms. I don't think Dan Harmon meant it satirically, it's just his kink

[@itsmefm]

Wait when was this??? What episode I don't remember that

[@shoxy-the-pinecone6113]

@@itsmefm second to last episode season 6

[@itsmefm]

@@shoxy-the-pinecone6113 ah! Thanks for letting me know

[@danieltobin4498]

I always thought Harmon was a creep but I didn’t think he’d be THAT creepy

[@berserkisdead357]

@@danieltobin4498 look up " dan Harmon dry humps cgi baby"

[@abraz_]

Man, suddenly the writing of Futurama hit me. They never had mid writing on that show did they? It's absolutely amazing that it's coming back.

[@pyan9660]

I KNOW IM SO FUCKING EXCITED I WAS IN DISBELIEF!!!!

[@Jormungandr108]

Futurama was getting tiring when it ended and it's going to be bad. You can mark my words.

[@tanishambrowne1137]

Futurama writing really decline from last 2 seasons the jokes were just stale so when it did end I was happy so I'm not excited for revival because writing wasn't good after last 2 im worried it just become simpsons.

[@abraz_]

I have a feeling the revival especially now in 2023 is gonna be the best since the original run.

[@narrow3601]

​@Jörmungandr Midgardsormr That's why it's recognized as one of the greatest shows ever made, everyone knew the show could have kept going. At the time it was at the peak of it's viewership and it's style of comedy mixed with it's masterful storytelling was a recipe that was clearly still going strong and they very easily could have exploited this and the writers knew this very well. Instead the writers see that some of they're original fans were fading and so what do they do? They end the series on all time high when it was at it's peak and created a finale that although was not forseen, was extremely satisfying and left everyone with no more questions.

[@ignorant1126]

They completely dropped Rick's character arc after the first two seasons, as the third onwards treats it completely differently. In seasons 1-2 there's a juxtaposition; he acts like he doesn't care but he really, really does. This vulnerability is shown only when he's alone and it's something no one else understands Season 1 Episode 5: Rick spends the whole day mocking Morty's adventure. Once he finds out he was assau!ted, he kills the character that hurt him, and treats the boy much nicer Season 1 Episode 10: Rick describes Morty's existence as just a way to protect him from the government. He's then shown crying thinking about toddler Morty Season 2 Episode 1: He condemns Morty and Summer endlessly about how they don't matter, even making a chart for them depicting how meaningless they are. Later on, Morty's collar breaks and he sacrifices himself to save him, accepting his own death in the process Season 2 Episode 3: Rick has the time of his life with Unity despite their fun destroying her. When she leaves him, he ends the episode shrugging the break-up off, before putting his head under a suic!dal contraption Season 2 Episode 10: He cusses out his family when they're upset about leaving their home. Hearing Jerry say that Rick is hurting them, he hands himself into the government to give the family a better life Then there's Season 3 Season 3 Episode 4: While drunk, he creates an intricate contraption to show his love and care towards someone. Morty expects it's him. Turns out, nope, it was a meaningless side character, and Morty resents him for this Season 3 Episode 5: Rick grows oddly close to Jerry (something that would quite literally never happen) just so Jerry can betray him pathetically and be cussed out while nearly killed Season 3 Episode 6: He considers his attachments to others a 'toxic' trait and thus, toxic Rick holds his Morty close while he's seriously injured. Meanwhile, healthy Rick watches laughing and mocking them Season 3 Episode 9: 'Maybe you matter so little that I like you. Maybe it makes you matter. Maybe I love you. Maybe something about your mother.' The downhill writing can be boiled down to a few core points. 1. They made him express his emotions in front of others. Instead crying or trying to off himself while alone, he now does it around people, as if this vulnerable side to him really isn't THAT vulnerable 2. The subtlety is gone 3. He acts oddly nicer now? Why'd he ever befriend Jerry, anyway? And he is a sincere dad to Beth now, unlike the tired drunk before 4. The story frames this caring nature as toxic. It's no longer something that kicks in to save Morty while in danger, something that truly shows he's human with actual care. No, now it's something he tries to get rid of and actively complains about All around, not a great arc

[@Der_Gewagte]

Bruh you freak

[@sukumadehk]

Pls shorten it

[@rainydeestar]

I'd argue the toxic thing does work. Of course to him, his caring side is a character flaw. Otherwise, I agree

[@shido_rimru_]

It's like they nerfed rick intelligence cause in season 1 to 3 he was smart not In the later season he seems dumb and he gets beat up by randoms

[@rainydeestar]

@@shido_rimru_ you'll notice that in season 1, he is actually quite nerfed compared to season 3

[@RogersPS5]

Rick and Morty feels like a child, Sometimes it can do amazing things but it always does something shitty thinking it's smarter than it actually is

[@f1u1c1k-y1o1u]

Rick and Morty is like a gifted child that was told it was gifted when in school, then immediately after hearing this praise it proceeded to never ever return back to school ever again, never again read another book on good writing, basic science, or consistent storytelling, immediately dropped out of school altogether (never even finishing school because it was "2 smart 4or skool just liek Rick amirite :-) ") then continued making more episodes based on its own hubris, resting on the intellectual laurels of it once being told it was once bright and gifted amidst a crowd of bored fans and growing criticism and blissfully living in Dunning-Krueger, ignorant to how dumb the show's universe and premise really became. Now today, the gifted child is an embarrassing 40 year old unshaven alcoholic gifted burnout who tries to brag about it's former glory and the fact it was once gifted, and once had some success to anyone who will listen. Arrogance of the writers was it's own undoing.

[@micahcook2408]

*feels like a narcissist

[@micahcook2408]

That meta episode was just weird too… just felt like they couldn’t write an episode about anything else and just decided to write about fans who missed story arcs. Lol not to say I dislike meta episodes, humour, games, etc. but when it comes to meta commentary in fiction that does not make a lick of sense while hitting you over the head with their “themes” being overly rude and cynical? They can f off lmao like just write something dammit, who cares if you don’t wanna have anymore story arcs Lmfao It’s YOUR SHOW, come up with ideas you want to implement!

[@robertjohnson2916]

@@f1u1c1k-y1o1u yeah I the show's universe became really stupid. A seaman who controls the ocean with his d**k, Hell is literally real despite Rick being an atheist, an ego superhero girl, Rick's ship falling in love with transformers. The show lost me with it's lore after season 4.

[@f1u1c1k-y1o1u]

@@robertjohnson2916 the show became stupid when it did the episode where Rick created uncertain universes and split screened the episode into those two universes. Then Rick tricked the timelord guy by telling him since possibilities were infinite, and that it stands that all possibilities would happen including the one where he turns around, this causing the Time Lord to turn around. The mistake here was the show 's understanding of infinity. The mistake showed a fundamental misunderstanding of infinity and related concepts of infinite sets on the writers' part. Infinity doesn't mean that all things are possible in a set of things. It just means that infinitely many things are possible. Yet most only differing negligibly and being roughly the same. Like if you ask to find the number of numbers between 0 and 1 (The closed interval (0,1) on the reals) you could find infinitely many numbers. There are Infinitely many real numbers between 0 and 1. You could not however, find 2. Or 3. Or 4, or Pi, or 22/7, etc. The entire premise of Rick and Morty is that infinity means anything and EVERYTHING is possible because the Universe is infinite. But this shows a fatal misunderstanding of how infinity works and leads the writers to create all sorts of abominations that wouldn't pass any smell test or measure of good writing. Most of the alternate dimensions Rick and Morty explore are as silly and absurd as the writers' imaginations, and that at first seems wonderful, whimsical, and charming, until it becomes too absurd to make sense. Like in your Mr. Nimbus example, there's no sense of any of his character, even in a smart way, or the Cookie Magneto character, or the alternate dimensions where humanoid pizza walks and talks, or the dimensions where telephones call each other using people. The universes and characters don't make sense. Not in some absurdist way, but just in a bad writing sense. The entire show is built off of a misunderstanding of how infinite universes work and how any logically consistent Universe in that multiverse set could be constructed or would appear. You can't just make crap up out of thin air because the multiverse is infinite. There must be logic and consistency somewhere. That's not a rule of sci fi either, that's just being a competent writer. Rick and Morty ultimately suffers from logical (general structure) and chronological (general plotline) inconsistency. That's not an issue normally in cartoons. Comedy can be created from inconsistency. This can create irony when the characters play with inconsistency. However when a show like Rick and Morty pretentiously pretends to be intelligent and smart and tries to appeal to a science crowd but is built off of bad writing and a flawed understanding of science and logic, and just isn't really funny, you don't see it as a creative sci fi cartoon anymore, you see it as just something overrated and full of itself. This is why I say Rick and Morty is dumb. Because it tries to be not dumb, which makes it look even more dumb. And it's just not even funny

[@fiendish9474]

Thank God someone mentioned how shitty it felt seeing all of Rick's positive character development be nullified by the reveal that he was a robot made completely separate from his actual persona

[@aletanook]

I actually didn't care too much about Rick's regression but for a different reason. People regress so the idea of him regressing isn't a problem since he clearly has a long way to go. I just think that them making him seem like an unreasonable edgelord who doesn't care for his family in season 3 was terrible. I mean it kinda made sense he would regress since he saaw his best friend get shot for showing affection but I would've like to see him feeling more remorse and conflicted by his actions rather than just acting like a straight up psychopath. Even the family bonding moments get significantly toned down and we see a lot more affection from Rick in season 1. I think it would've been better to see Rick more closer to his season 1 self by this point than... whatever the fuck he was in seasons 3-5. I didn't care for Rick's regression in season 6 because it didn't hit as hard. We only find out he regressed for ONE FUCKING EPISODE! WHY ONE FUCKING EPISODE?!?! Considering Rick's just started back on his very very SLOW self improvement journey, his difficulty with change, and all the stress he was going through with Rick Prime, why did he not regress at LEAST around episode 2? If he was apparently so close to Rick Prime then why did he take 8 fucking episodes to even worry about him??? I think it would've been more poignant if we find out that throughout most of the season Rick was actually searching for Rick Prime and only OCCASIONALLY hanging out with his family because I don't think Rick would completely neglect his family but also Rick would NOT be changing this fast. Rick should've shown more irritation and emotion due to all the stress he was under. Him making the robot for his family would still be character development but very subtle. Because he chooses to give his family a better version of himself instead of putting all his stress on his family. Again, Rick regressing for only one episode still shows that unrealistic hope that Rick CAN change at the drop of a dime and for a lot better.

[@lucyferos205]

I dunno. I think the robot itself makes a good point that the fact Rick even cared to construct it shows some improvement

[@harry-hp1je]

Agreed. The scene a couple of seasons ago with Rick making a start on bringing Phoenix/Birdperson back to life in the garage gave me hope that Rick would have some positive character development and maybe even get to a point where he’s a better and more caring person who gets to have a redemption arc and perhaps a happy ending. Now that would be something different and new that the show hasn’t done before. But then nothing ever came of it and we haven’t seen Birdperson since (I don’t think). The show acts like characters having deep character arcs or emotional moments is some kind of show of weakness, and it’s “Far too Edgy for That!!1! Must remain edgy edgelord cuz we’re way too cool to actually care!! You actually care about these characters?? Ha! Get a load of this guy, what a loser!!!1!!” Whenever Rick is being uncharacteristically caring I simply don’t buy it, because there’s always a twist and he actually doesn’t care. It’s boring, repetitive and no fun to watch. And a real shame - the show had potential to be so much better

[@jasonjones3328]

To be fair they do establish the robot only came up during the Sun Knight episode, everything before that was real Rick

[@3takoyakis]

Robot rick was ONLY AFTER the sun knight episode The rest are still rick So they make R&M grow better as a person for 4-5 damn episodes...which is the longest time R&M growth (usually each season only have 1-2?) and all of that ruined in single episode

[@Holden.Tudiks]

I was very disappointed that Ricks fake back story became the real back story

[@sakod1az]

I-I beat my wife Morty! She’s dead Morty! 100 years of prison M-Morty! I turned myself into a domestic abuser! I’m felon RICK!!!!

[@realsanmer]

Inside Job is (or rather was, rip) what Rick and Morty wanted to be: the episodes were generally one-off stories, but character development was never ignored, and references to previous episodes kept the continuity going.

[@jesser5138]

Im gonna miss Inside Job.

[@dryfox11]

@@jesser5138 Netflix is absolutely insane to cancel inside job and… keep Paradise PD and Farzar… Seems theyre announcing their brow of comedy is below-the-sewers.

[@nas0518]

@@dryfox11 Well Paradise PD ended.

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

That show was even more unfunny...

[@serafinlatigo]

sure it was, but then again, its humour is just as similar, if not less it's not as unique, but it's somewhat preferable

[@Nickelbag610]

I'm not liking how self aware stuff is becoming now a days. Which I think has been a huge problem in a lot of shows for a couple years.

[@f1u1c1k-y1o1u]

Yeah 4th wall breaks went from being intriguing to just directly insulting the audience for ever believing the illusion of acting

[@johnnybravosfeetfetish8319]

I just hate fourth wall breaking within shows movies seems like a cheap knockoff of what we know as humor

[@T_Teobokki]

@@johnnybravosfeetfetish8319 agreed

[@micahcook2408]

Imo it’s not bad, it’s just when they keep using it to ignore writing about anything else over and over and over 😂 like okay, we get it, back to the PLOT please!

[@walkingwhisperer]

Fourth wall breaks can be clever and sometimes very hilarious. Take the old show Chowder for example. It would make self referential jokes but the plot still took center stage.

[@yuzustridh3794]

The problem is that season 1 was episodic yes, but the characters still developed and those episodes impacted the characters and showed other sides of them

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202]

Not too mention it was funny, which the later seasons are not

[@lightingmcqueen522]

I can’t help but notice that one of the main problems with the new episodes is the writers just don’t trust the audience to understand literally anything. 90% of the jokes are explained for 10 or so seconds. And even the more dramatic scenes like ricks wife explaining to the audience why rick is depressed and that his grieving process is toxic like a 1st grade teacher instead of letting the Audience figure it out for themselves

[@TOnySchAnneL9000]

The audience, as demonstrated by the video, don't understand that the show follows post modern philosophy in it's writing and format. The show is about deconstructing pop-culture and the loon spent the whole video complaining that the show is deconstructing pop-culture. I wouldn't trust my audience either.

[@countryboyred]

@@TOnySchAnneL9000🤓

[@TOnySchAnneL9000]

@@countryboyred fuck

[@friccle_]

The show seems to want to delve into its own lore and tell a bigger story, but its obsession with hating everything about normal shows to just be absurd is just ruining it

[@maniacgreen8609]

Why do they hate normal shows?

[@EndOfSmallSanctuary97]

@@maniacgreen8609 It thinks it's better than them

[@billqiu4692]

@@EndOfSmallSanctuary97exactly this, that smug tone was a little funny at first but seeing the steady decline in quality and how they’re still pretending they’re better than that is embarrassingly hypocritical. Other shows are actually capable of committing to and telling a fucking story.

[@andresorozco2871]

Sometimes I consider "Evil Morty" to be an allegory for all the fans who got tired of how Rick (the writing team) does things out of meanness, spite and laziness without taking responsibility for his actions. Several of us saw how they acted from the fourth season and decided to leave it behind and explore new things, like "Evil Morty", while the writers stuck to their comfort zone and made decisions out of pure resentment, just like Rick.

[@micahcook2408]

Damn that reminds me of the Shameless writing team. Frank never changed nor took on consequences for his actions but kept (along with Debby) wanting to pull everyone down with him lol It’s weird that these teams/studios think that purposeful flanderization will keep viewership when it seems to do the opposite in some cases, even leading to some actors wanting to jump ship.

[@limitlesscondition]

Bro

[@bananasinfrench]

It absolutely can be read that way, especially with Evil Morty being so critical of Rick during a run of episodes where the writers seemed to be giving him too much sympathy, with such an interesting point that the show seems to nervous to explore beyond just the scope of his little story arc. And with the CFC being easily read as an allegory for the show itself, it can be seen as Evil Morty just full-on leaving the show. I doubt it was intentional on the writers' parts, but I think it really adds to his plot.

[@flaco3462]

That would be fucking dumb and even more up your own ass than the show already is

[@kennyhudson9201]

@@micahcook2408 Ugh. It's realistic. People don't change. Humans just fantasize about changing. But really want they do is see the world differently so that it fits them. They themselves rarely change. So more stories should portray that reality, instead of most stories being fantastical with humans actually changing.

[@Americaisthebest]

The last episode should be an old Morty telling his daughter or grandchildren the stories. Then the child asks "did any of this really happen?" Him responding "does it really matter if it did?"

[@ssj4gogeta130]

Didn’t!

[@PyckledNyk]

Man, what timing on this video huh?

[@jdenoe69]

It's been tiresome. Community is by far, Dan Harmon's best show.

[@stateofgrace2786]

It's also the best show where Justin Roiland voices a character (along with Gravity Falls)

[@MoodKapProductions]

And just like Community it died a slow and painful death

[@MoodKapProductions]

@@apychimpy7538 never understood how people trash season 4 and say seasons 5 and 6 are good

[@phenomenal-flop]

@@MoodKapProductions God, season 6 is just SO CYNICAL! The end is literally just Harmon venting to the audience.

[@mikez4388]

POP POP!!

[@oldoutlet6946]

It's just crazy to me with how quickly the decline started too. Most good shows keep their quality for 5 seasons or more but Rick and Morty peaked at 2. It's just gone downhill from there and it's sad because this show could've been something more if the writers knew what they were doing and both creators weren't heinous people.

[@eatatjoes6751]

The Guiness World record for fastest seasonal rot.

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

@@eatatjoes6751 Voltron has joined the chat. But was it honestly ever really good

[@oldenough5424]

@@alchemistofsteel8099 honestly voltron dropped even harder than rick and morty imo

[@10thletter40]

@@eatatjoes6751 Promised Neverland

[@flyingmintbunny1286]

@10th letter oof that's true.. season 2 was the worst!

[@customarymagic]

I honestly forgot about this show after season 3. When I eventually remembered it existed I got curious if it ever got anothet season. Season 4 had been out for months at that point and literally no one I knew had talked about it.

[@cyberch1cken]

This aged well.

[@erikm8373]

You mean you're not excited for the next season, where Rick Prime will be killed extremely anticlimactically in the first episode so they can get back to "classic rick and morty adventures," before setting up another serialized plot in the final episode of the season?

[@pyan9660]

😅😅

[@sidwayelson]

That exactly I've been saying it forever. Why complain when you do it yourself?

[@LYNN-id9rb]

This comment aged like milk

[@deleteduser122]

Bro they killed him already 💀 But this is good i mean, the episode was dope and they are making Rick have a new development, also the way he dies makes him REALLY PROBABLY to come back because evil Morty now have is memories. If they want to do something with this thing it could work but probably they are going to go back to the "Rick and Morty episodic formula"

[@gibbsduhem1066]

This aged perfectly, LMAO!

[@jjjmadness8306]

It really says a lot about Rick & Morty when it ages worse than Family Guy. If anything, one of the biggest problems with Rick & Morty is how insecure it is about itself. It always complains about having to do serialized episodes, whines about how formulaic those stories are and always takes a stab at the fans for caring about it, but what creators failed to realize that they put themselves in this situation. They're the ones who created Evil Morty and left him in the background for fans to speculate. They're the ones who set up that Rick had a tragic backstory, yet they keep making fun of the fans for caring about that. It's like it's afraid of being cliche and sincere and has to keep trying to prove how "cool" and "smart" it is, which ultimately results in it doing none of that. Rick & Morty is that insecure teen always trying to prove how much better it is than everyone else while failing miserably.

[@spaghetti5914]

At least family guy doesn't mislead it's audience. Someone who starts watching family guy knows what is getting into. Rick and Morty however had many episodes that foreshadowed the plot getting a more serious turn. A foreshadowing that was never carried out. i remember watching the earlier seasons building up several arcs (bird person, evil morty) only for them to end up nowhere

[@jessh4016]

It could be a nice story if they were brave enough to, you know, just relax a bit and be an actual show.

[@Whatsyourproblem-]

Idk abt that family guy comment while I do agree but honestly family guy has no consistency in the episodes it’s honestly boring after awhile

[@lambssear]

I think one of the the biggest reasons for their fear is that they signed for 70 fucking episoes. Theyre afraid that if we learn too much about the story, there wont be anything to tell in upcoming seasons. which is also a situation that theyve put themselves in. If they didnt force themselves to make new episodes or to be funny, if they just relaxed a bit and ended the series in 2 or 3 seasons then the jokes, the plot woudnt be shitty as much. I still think theres great ideas and a badass nemesis in the new season but they waste all the opportunities just by making shitty jokes to extend the series.

[@whats_holden_up]

Rick and Morty is trying to surpass Family Guy and Simpsons for the number 1 good cartoon that got bad

[@NeoGames2]

Thank you! You said something I've been saying this whole time! This whole season felt like Dan harmon and the writers being ANGRY at youtubers like JustStop or LS Mark for hating how inconsistent the show got! And it showed by how many petty jokes and moments there were!

[@dinosore4782]

The most memorable parts of Rick and morty are never meta, it’s the opposite . I think what exemplifies the best part of Rick and morty is when Rick takes morty to the alien arcade and they play that VR game where you live a whole life . You got involved into a weird , random character, watched him get old and die, and had the whole thing ruined by it being a video game . In a way that’s meta, but within the world itself without breaking the 4th wall

[@cospitch8963]

Rick and Morty has to be one of the most frustrating shows I think I have ever seen, I could see a genuinely fantastic show seeping through the cracks in the later seasons but the pieces just never came together, instead they resorted to “incest, pop culture references, and fourth wall breaks le funny”

[@aletanook]

It's a shame. Season 2 was my favorite season because of the depth it gave to the characters especially Rick. It had a more natural character growth for Rick that was very slow and subtle but not like season 6 and you can see it occasionally in episodes like the wedding and Unity episodes and even with Rick becoming closer to Summer. I agree about even the later seasons having some interesting ideas here and there but they're just not executing them well. Like Rick's backstory and the story with Rick Prime and the citadel and central finite curve just don't feel the effort being put in.

[@lucyferos205]

It's insane how all of the deep implications of the portal technology and all of the nuanced effects it had on the characters has pretty much gone completely unexplored since Season 2. Not that I want the new writers to even try, because clearly deep stories and nuanced characters are something they're incapable of. They're total hacks

[@cade6322]

Both creators of Rick and Morty being outed as creeps is like 9/11 for smoke shops

[@ragingumbreon2003]

fr how they gonna sell anything when they bongs, pipes, rigs, and vapes are all rick and morty? the amount of people with Rick and morty glass or tools 🙁

[@shanemont3611]

At least Dan Harmon did own up to it and did reconstructive justice.

[@machinegirI]

Someone said that it should be replaced with Aqua Teen Hunger Force stuff instead and i have never agreed with a statement more

[@dryfox11]

@@ragingumbreon2003 While the dudes may be creeps, we can still appreciate the art and work or the animators and writers! Just cause some people related to the show stank doesn’t mean i’m giving up my rick bong xD

[@ragingumbreon2003]

@@dryfox11 bahahaha i totally agree I have a rick and morty grinder and my boyfriend has a pipe i was just fuckin around

[@zekiel-that-one-kid2714]

Honestly one thing that really annoys me about the series which is pretty minor compared to everything. Rick just has a million gadgets built into him it's less interesting when he just had a gun in a couple inventions up his sleeve that were established earlier in the episode

[@GoldBearanimationsYT]

I think even Justin was already done with it

[@mr.x2567]

He’s certainly done now lol

[@BlueInfinity22]

​@@mr.x2567 I think I saw he was completely exonerated and found innocent of all charges. Or am I mixing him up with someone else?

[@jimreily7538]

​@@BlueInfinity22You're thinking of someone else. His attorneys threatened to countersue the victims and the families of those he was accused of molesting, restraining and so on. His attorneys also threatened to grill the underage victims on the stand via video link, and so, after the underage victims withdrew their charges, Roiland got away with it. The case wasn't heard.

[@A.LeMayo]

@@jimreily7538 accusers being held accountable, how horrible

[@jimreily7538]

@@A.LeMayo Victims with less money being smeared by a Hollywood celebrity with high paid lawyers

[@sadvec6328]

Something that hurt me is the fact that it seems that we will never go back to the times of interdimensional TV. The creativity and humor of this show was replaced with just meta humor and incest jokes.

[@emperiorlnc442]

Hopefully now that justin is in prison we can hope on no more of those

[@sadvec6328]

@@emperiorlnc442 Dan Harmon is still around (and he's the guy we believe is the source)

[@AbrasiousProductions]

I don't have an issue with the incest humor but the meta humor is annoying me

[@AbrasiousProductions]

@@phenomenal-flop .. I'm not racist you tit where the fuck did that come from?!

[@slitchey3166]

@@emperiorlnc442 Justin hasn't written for rick and morty in years.

[@toomuchbongwater]

they’re *too self aware* to the point that they care too much about what the fans think instead of just making a good story.

[@penskepc2374]

People forget the first seven seasons of the Simpsons actually had pretty big differences. That's why they were so solid.

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202]

Simpsons started off good but continued getting so much better through out its run (up until season 8). Rick and Morty started off amazing and only declined in every season after

[@SolarBrain4128]

What I remember about the first few seasons was that it cared a little bit about its world-building. You had alien races, planets, and inventions that followed the rules and limitations. It wasn't too meta, it was creating a world and exploring themes with them. How do you defeat a shapeshifting parasite that plants fake memories in your mind? Find out that the parasites can only create good memories. Rick makes a box that generates a servant? The servants end up struggling with what at first seems like the simplest task and go mad from being unable to fulfill their purpose. Rick builds a universe to power his ship, well turns out that mini-universe eventually came up with the same idea. Instead of trying to rant or ham fist a point, the show just enjoyed the sci-fi world it was creating.

[@johnpaulcross424]

I really had hope for the transition of the series from an episodic comedy into a more serious narrative sequential comedy with serious themes, but after watching the cycles repeat and hearing about its renewal for 70 episodes I knew any hope of meaningful development was lost.

[@helin8982]

isnt it 40 more episodes now?

[@bella_ciao4608]

seriously dude. Season 3 was so fucking good because of how compelling the characters and story were. When all we get is boring shitty comedy, it just gets lame. You've got a great cast of characters and decide NOT to tell a good story with them????? What a fucking fumble

[@jpiny4854]

even if it did it is too late now. after everything that has happened in those seasons it is gonna be rlly hard to care about anything that the show does even if they try to take it serious.

[@islandboy9381]

@@bella_ciao4608 the writing team got insecure after seeing season 3 getting mean comments online and now we're stuck with them running in circles, yelling at us that they're still cool/irreverent.

[@gingeranagram2467]

It's so heartbreaking seeing the greatness and potential of S1 and S2 be absolutely wasted by the later seasons

[@serafinlatigo]

i think it's because the writing team for those seasons was changed once the year and a half wait for season 3 rolled around

[@samninjago8216]

no just no

[@Munnwort]

It’s crushing man, shit actually makes me sad lmao

[@REDEEMERWOLF]

I fell off during Season 2, when they did interdimensional cable part 2, i knew that the show was lazy. Then it starts to take itself too seriously. Fuck that

[@PomMoei]

@@serafinlatigonah, i had heard that in season three, they were originally gonna kick Rick out instead of Jerry but with the hype the show was getting, they decided not to because it would’ve been too risky

[@NomadQuinn]

This has already aged remarkably well

[@Dill_Pickle5760]

The title of this video is the understatement of the century

[@Mr.DelicateTouch]

I stopped watching Rick and Morty a long time ago. It just got boring, unfunny, and repetitive to me.

[@kaybe9793]

That tends to happen when the majority of humor and plot events in the show are effectively 'improv'.

[@BBK113]

one Piece pfp saying this is funny tbh but I agree with what you saying

[@MoodKapProductions]

The meta humor is what drove me away. Making a fourth wall break doesn't equal good writing

[@Kultactivities]

Yeah I was liking Rick and Morty when it was first coming out and watched all the way to season 3, but I couldn’t get through season 4 and the later seasons. Just got super boring to me and started feeling generic.

[@Kultactivities]

@IvanTheGod it’s crazy how he stated a point and you try to antagonize him on a show that hasn’t been brought up at all in this thread. Why niggas can’t discuss nothing nowadays

[@Mustache99]

I think self cest is the the only thing that can combine narcissism, incest and being gay/lesbian at the same time, for beth loving herself in itself is an important theme, too bad it went down hill fast

[@AbrasiousProductions]

that episode gave me a new fetish, now I fantasize about fucking myself or myself cucking me, blends perfectly with my other numerous fetishes, anyways season 6 was a slight improvement but still felt lacking

[@forestryvicker1434]

Justin Roiland just got booted off of his own show and lost all adult swim deals.

[@LiamTolentino]

I'm genuinely really sad that I got so bored of Rick and Morty because I used to absolutely love it when I was in high school, and I still love a lot of the visuals and animation in the show, but damn I just can't bring myself to sit down and watch it anymore. I miss when season 2 ended and there was a ton of hype for the direction the show will take and all the theories and speculations people had about the lore and stuff. I miss actually caring about these characters and being moved by little moments like Rick sacrificing himself to save Morty in that episode where the timeline kept splitting throughout the episode, or that time when Morty told Summer about his own rotting corpse in the backyard as she was trying to run away showing how much Morty has grown since then. Now it's just so hard to care at all because it's so clear that the writers have stopped caring too. I just hope that season 7, if it will even happen at all, will take a new direction and give me a reason to care about this show again.

[@aletanook]

I don't think I ever felt for these characters since the last episode of season 4. Rick's backstory was close but that was a whole flashback. Rick just feels so shallow and borderline robotic as a character with almost no emotional moments. When the show tries emotional moments (like Planetina and Two Crows or even the last S6 episode), it doesn't hit the same. It just feels like they're trying too hard now with these terrible plots and the Rickbot thing could've been more impactful if it had been revealed or at least hinted at that Rick has been out of commission for the entire season. There is no way Rick was this emotionally stable when he is "so close to catching Rick Prime".

[@michaeldarst2586]

I'll never forget tripping with my girl watching the first 2 seasons that shit was nuts

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202]

Unfortunately season 7 is no different from the last few

[@toganium4175]

So never watching Rick and Morty in my life has paid off, I see.

[@juliancaraveo5700]

@@JustYourAverageJoeHere I've never watched it either. I guess I also dodged a bullet as well.

[@isaiahwalking]

Rick*

[@darklex5150]

You didn't dodge a bullet, if you didn't watch Velma then yes, you did dodge a bullet but just because one video says "Rick And Morty bad now" doesn't mean you dodged a bullet.

[@bobbyzeitgeist1842]

@@juliancaraveo5700 yeah there was no bullet dodge. It’s just alright not a complete waste of time but not the best thing you’ll ever watch

[@princetchalla2441]

@@JustYourAverageJoeHere it was fun for two seasons, but I got busy and never saw anything past that

[@omegabrain230]

It’s sad to see all of these adult swim shows from my childhood get major seasonal rot honestly most of them should have pulled the plug because there’s a saying that goes something like “die a hero or live long enough to se yourself become the villain”

[@thecoooool]

A show only popular because was different will never last

[@pissqueendanniella4688]

It's not going to be over until they go full edgelord and have a multiple family orgy, several minutes long, in the living room and rick will burp and say "well that's an intro, now on to the shooooowaoooo!" And I'm sure at that point there will still be a legion of fans opining about how brilliant it is

[@b.r.5146]

So, an Aristocrats joke?

[@JcoleMc]

@Ferbujosbe Why do bad things never end ?

[@digital-angel]

​@@JcoleMc Because of the kind of people that are in power. We can change that ofc, but it's hard work

[@murkywaters5502]

For those that don't know, here is a paraphrased account of what lead to Rick and Morty's decline, according to someone who worked at the studio: Almost none of the original crew still works on the show. This person and their friends that were originally around when the show began half joked that the series was cursed. The show had at least 3 crew turnovers in its time, which is extremely abnormal compared to a show like the Simpsons where major writers and crew members didn't move on until Season 7 or 8. Many original crew members did not return to work on Rick and Morty because the hiatus between Seasons 2 and 3 was so long that they had to find work elsewhere. One sign of horrible mismanagement was disregarding the basic principle of locking the script (no further changes) because there are other stages to take into account with an animated show (script breakdowns, rough designs, clean designs, color designs, storyboards, animatics, recording, etc.) Animation veterans and even a director were fired, most likely because they spoke out against this inane practice. When it was announced that Rick and Morty would have a 70 episode deal, this was initially treated positively because it suggested job stability in a gig based industry (not having to find another show to work on). Due to mismanagement and production delays causing too long of a hiatus, the damage had been done. Also, Mike Mendel's passing apparently affected things a lot. Not to mention that there was apparently "extremely concerning conduct" going on at the studio Starburns Industries (apparently parting ways with Rick and Morty after season 1 because of this?).

[@ejm1225]

I'm surprised that this wasn't talked about more.

[@frankmoran4556]

Weird I literally think every single episode is better than the last.

[@brycebitetti1402]

Seems like a lot of writers/producers in the industry these days seem to fuck over the animation process by not being able to commit to a locked script.

[@Repetoire]

​@@frankmoran4556let me tell you something, no one gives a shit about your opinion, please stop giving it.

[@PhilBo-fp9mz]

The episode of Beth and space Beth was agonizing to watch. Like I didnt expect to get that uncomfortable, I thought the show had its limits. It didnt seem like a gag nor did it seem like something people would like as a relationship thing, it was straight weird and uncomfy.

[@elmacho2789]

Mandatory comment about Justin roiland

[@that_deadeyegamer7920]

It wasn't a concept that was sustainable for more then 2-3 seasons. The fact that Rick is JUST now improving as a character says a lot about the writers.

[@darkira2129]

I don't think rick really improving, like he can sympathize with other but as a person he doesn't really change. Edit : what I mean is, he can understand other people more, so he can hide his true intentions better

[@dryfox11]

@@darkira2129 I was actually kinda interested to maybe see him turn into… not a piece of sh*t, i guess. Turns out the dude voicing him WAS a piece of sh*t as well lol

[@alchemistofsteel8099]

It's a good concept, bad writers. They literally have the entire multiverse at there disposable, they can literally explore any sci-fi concept they want.

[@that_deadeyegamer7920]

@@darkira2129 he definitely has changed if only slightly, the last season focused on him attempting to be a better Rick after the status quo is more or less reset.

[@that_deadeyegamer7920]

@@alchemistofsteel8099 I couldn't agree more. Perfect way of putting it

[@user-lr8ow2jg4e]

I'm glad someone finally made a rant about this slug of a season. I feel like the reason this season is being praised is because everyone who payed attention to the show left. This whole season felt like the show was on medication. Everything from the writing quality to production quality feels exhausted, trying desperately not to fall asleep.

[@bobbybero7452]

The shown has too much exposition

[@aletanook]

Ikr? It boggles my mind how people like this season. What exactly did they fix from seasons 4-5? It doesn't matter if it has good ideas if the storytelling and characterization are terrible. If you complain about Rick being a fucking terminator then why the hell do you love Final Desmithation? Night Family is the most non Rick and Morty episode in terms of gags, seriously since when has Rick drank mouthwash and Morty had unusually strong abs? Just feels like a cartoon fan trying to live up to Justin Roiland's quirky style and failing. I think people only like it because of how disastrous season 5 and yes season 5 had some of the worst episodes in the series but it doesn't make season 6 anywhere near good. Rick has the most unearned "character development" I ever seen. Y'all only like it because it broke new ground but it's just some well-adjusted person's idealistic version of mental health recovery. Would've been better and more emotional if Rick was a robot for almost the entire season. Season 6 is the second worst season after season 5 with Analyze Piss being the only episode that was actually passable but still subpar. The rest is painful to watch. Jerry is now the real MVP which is ironic considering he was the weakest character in terms of writing but he now has the best writing and actually has character and agency. The rest of the characters are just shadows of their former selves. I think if many more people watched this season there would be much more hatred for it with even the people liking it probably hating it and Rick's contrived characterization in the next few years.

[@aletanook]

@@bobbybero7452 I know. I hate the writers constantly shoving the whole "Family is everything" and "Rick is growing" shit down your throat. I don't care about a fucking Vat of Acid redo, Rick and Morty pushing a lever, Rick bonding with two crows, and the constant talking about "How we're all family and we learned something" SHOW DON'T FUCKING TELL, SHOW! RICK HAS MADE SUBTLE GROWTH THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SHOW. WE DON'T NEED A FUCKING 180 TO KNOW THAT HE'S TRYING.

[@lucyferos205]

I'm praising it because, while it isn't good, it's way better than the dumpster fires of season 4 and 5 and is at least trying to give actual character arcs unlike season 3. It's the best the show has been for 4 seasons.

[@aletanook]

@@lucyferos205 Rick and Morty's characters arcs were terrible. Rick has one of the few most unearned growth I ever seen in fiction and Morty abandoned his "I don't care about Rick, I'm going to get a job at Netflix" arc and decided to cling to Rick and adventures.

[@ennuied]

Hasn't Justin stopped writing after season 4?

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202]

After season 3, and I honestly feel his missing influence was partly what led to the decline. I’m not saying he’s the genius behind the show or anything but his sense of humour was so unique to see in a mainstream animated show even if it wasn’t super creative. It was just silly and fun

[@susprofile456]

Justin Roiland just wubba lubba dub-dub'd a minor in the dm's. Now he will be busy doing the "Try not to pick up the soap on the floor" challenge with the boys he just recently met in his cell. Truly a landmark in his career history.

[@raelogan]

I did not expect to hear Morty's voice start talking about Code Lyoko and I feel like he's intruded on a niche interest of mine and that I'm willing to throw hands over it.

[@raelogan]

@@submarina152 9:27 Start at this point, lol

[@PhoeniXXTalon]

this comment frrrr 😭😭

[@somari8591]

I remember when my sister put on Full Meta Jackrick and I watched In horror as I saw them continue to double down on the groan inducing meta jokes while also making jokes about how it was inducing groans in me, like fuck that episode is just supreme cope for the writers and it's hilariously and depressingly pathetic.

[@harry-hp1je]

Agree with everything said here. This is my experience as a fan artist, and it may have just been the areas of the internet i frequented back then (largely fan artist communities), but I miss when the show wasn’t mainstream, and the online fan community was largely made up of people who found it through Gravity Falls. Back before the fandom became a toxic mess. People made great theories and fanart and such. But unfortunately as the show grew in popularity, it fell victim to the odd phenomenon of fans feeling the need to ship the two main-most male characters of a show together, no matter what their relationship to one another is. Not that every fan was or is like that of course. But I think the show’s continual inc*st jokes emboldened and drew dodgy people to it until it came to a point where if you searched for Rick and morty fanart online all you’d see was c137c*st of some sort. Normal people who drew literally any other kind of RnM fanart became fewer and harder to find. That, coupled with the show’s decline in quality and constant insulting of fans for daring to care about the show and its characters, made me think “why do I bother?” And I just stopped caring. I haven’t been in the fandom for a long time and only watch the show because of misplaced optimism that it could get better. A show scolding fans for caring too much, especially when the show sets things up in ways that Encourage you to become invested in deeper storylines, is so insulting to me. BBC Sherlock was the same. People being emotionally invested in your TV show is THE GOAL. Passionate fans will buy your merch AND MAKE YOU MONEY. People taking time out of their day to make theories or fair critiques about your tv show do so because they care - it should be an honour for showrunners. But if you keep insulting people for showing up, eventually they’ll stop showing up. I’d be surprised if they manage to fulfill the 10 season deal without it being cancelled, and if they do I can’t see it being renewed any further. I believe Morty says in one episode “I didn’t ask to be born!” And at this point, it almost feels like the show itself is saying “I didn’t ask to be dragged out for 10 seasons!” Like it’s wanting to be put out of its misery 💀

[@HomeschoolVouchers]

It's not even being insulted that gets me, I couldn't care less about what some random writers think of me. But any character development or answers to mysteries don't come nearly as soon as they should, the last couple of seasons just felt like I was being strung along without getting anything I was hoping for

[@harry-hp1je]

@@HomeschoolVouchers Oh yes I agree. They end seasons on a cliff hanger and then at the start of the next they either solve the problem and move on in the first five minutes or they just keep you hanging on wanting and waiting for the mystery to unfurl with little to no payoff 🙃

[@kylecrofts1639]

Just watch Smiling Friends.

[@edgarsandoval6990]

14:29 I remember how in Community there was an episode where two cousins ​​get married, and the episode ends in a Meta-joke. It seems that Dan has not changed too much

[@silverscorpio24]

It makes one almost scared and cynical to start liking any TV show or movie these days because you don't know how or when the writers will screw it up.

[@HomeschoolVouchers]

You can stick to stuff that's already finished and has good ratings? People don't even watch tv in tandem much anymore so it'd probably be fine

[@digital-angel]

Kinda but this tv show was weird and gross since the start

[@aletanook]

How interesting I got recommended this right after Justin Roiland gets fired.

[@nas0518]

And I feel bad because of that news and so does Roiland...he too, is feeling bad.

[@shponglechunch]

@@nas0518 he deserves to feel bad

[@nas0518]

@@shponglechunch Actually, he *needed* to feel bad and he is.

[@aletanook]

@@shponglechunch It's sad we're all so disappointed and Roiland.

[@ethanwiley7605]

This show always felt so new to me because of how insanely popular and relevant it's stayed and probably how I was 9 when it came out so I didn't start watching until high school

[@hattoripool1533]

That is if Rick and Morty has a Seventh season thank’s to Justin Roiland becoming Prison Rick

[@b4ooks233]

I couldn’t even finish the Beth episode, that’s honestly impressive to me that they can make a cartoon episode so uncomfortable that I can’t even stomach it.

[@Reality.juiced]

I stopped at incest dragons

[@dratinibrah]

Ngl I liked space beth until that happened, I can't even think about them without melting my brain

[@tanishambrowne1137]

​@@Reality.juicedme too man that just jarring and cringy.

[@simple-commentator-not-rea7345]

I really, really, REALLY hope the show will actually be self-reflecting about that and have everyone aknowledge that this is grose and won't try to play some 'sympathetic' arc showing how . . . I dunno, Beth needs to love herself THIS literally because she's that depressed about he purpose in life. I can actually tolerate this episode's existence if it expands into a character study showing just how toxic Beth is and how she seriously needs to reflect on herself, just not THIS literally. If they try to keep up this self-incestuous relationship, that's it, Danny boy has a fetish and I'm done with the show.

[@t-ro6176]

Ong that’s when I said I’m better off not watching it

[@devilglory]

we can only hope that rick and morty doesnt do a confinment ep 8 what a train wreck that was

[@TTGHAST]

It was almost as if the people working on Rick and Morty are the ones that despised it the most...

[@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054]

I have to say, I think this is the first season of Rick and Morty that I just felt so overwhelmingly indifferent about that I didn't even watch a single episode.

[@attackcrash655]

Dang season 6 was my favorite season 💀

[@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054]

Damn bro you didn't have to flex your bad taste so hard

[@aletanook]

@@darthvaderbutwayshittier7054 I don't want to be mean like that but I think these fans are too enthusiastic after how disastrous season 5 was and Rick's ground-breaking (but really contrived) character development.

[@El1society]

i only liked the dinosaur episode :/

[@ThanhTriet600]

I thought most of seasons 3-5 were forgettable to bad, but I liked most of season 6. There are a couple really shitty episodes but also some good ones.

[@TheMedicatedArtist]

Six seasons in and Dan Harmon is struggling to voice Rick. Meanwhile Julie Kavner’s voiced Marge Simpson for four decades before there were noticeable issues.

[@ya_boi_paypay26]

You mean Justin roiland, lol

[@Emma-ei2zk]

Justin voices him, I mean, voiced him, I doubt he'll be back anytime soon

[@BlazingOwnager]

@@Emma-ei2zk lol him being gone was confirmed tonight

[@onpoint4gamers]

Justin Roiland, not Dan Harmon.

[@thelivingglitch1371]

@@ya_boi_paypay26 Not anymore, they don’t.

[@someguyinazoo]

It’s never swifty about domestic violence

[@mashedpotatos3750]

I miss when everyone was super hyped for season 3. What was that? 2017?

[@dt6119]

I audibly screamed at the gun in the High on Life clip to shut up... My God I couldn't stand an entire game like that

[@isaiascanete6651]

9:20 GOD DAMN THAT WAS UNNECESARILY LONG

[@sterlingmma]

Roiland thinks being self-aware is good humor in itself but forgot to actually be funny

[@yourfriendlyneighbourhoods8202]

I feel like that was more Harmon pushing the meta stuff

[@octoman511]

just cancel it already and let the show die with whatever dignity it has left.

[@katium9176]

I've been hanging out with a "friend" who enjoys watching Rick and Morty. I told him I didn't like it anymore than I used to and he's like "oh no no no, this season is actually better than the rest" As expected, and after watching your review, it never fails to disappoint me.

[@zeleeba8774]

Most likely he meant that this season is higher than 4 and 5.

[@atanor9787]

It's better than the last 3 seasons at least

[@dryfox11]

It’s better in my opinion because ricks charachter was FINALLY going somewhere other than down… more. And just when that happens, the writers are outed for being weirdos. Great. There goes one of my fav shows :(

[@katium9176]

@@dryfox11 Just when things were getting good lmao

[@Destinystrike]

Final Space got cancelled but a show like this got to survive. This timeline.

[@pyan9660]

Why do all the good shows always get cancelled but Netflix will keep three of the same versions of Brickleberry all with the same bottom-feeding middle schooler humour. Im so sick of all the shows I love being abandoned

[@tanishambrowne1137]

I'm sad that got cancelled that actually really good sci fi show alot better than rick and morty.

[@ejm1225]

At least Final Space's story can conclude with a graphic novel.

[@davidjomir3184]

Final Space will always have a special in my heart. Not to mention Rogers might be the best show creator in adult animation. Plus, I apreciate that the show isn't trying so hard to be a self-aware, goofy meta-based show. It's a simple but fun, emotional and funny story about people that try to protect Mooncake and prevent Invictus from destroying the universe. Gary, while starting off a bit anoying, grows to become one of the most relatable and best-written characters in animation. I just love this show. It even made me tear up, something that rareley happens to me with animation.

[@davidjomir3184]

#renewfinalspace Ftom now one, the goal is to get the novel turned into a season or at least a movie.

[@no_one01-5]

I'm somewhat convinced that the show should have ended with just two seasons.

[@BradyRamaker]

It's generally not good to use a work of media to psychoanalyze the showrunners, since they're a collaborative process involving lots of people, but given how both Harmon and Roilland (H&R) have publically shown their asses, it invites it. Rick is his creators- smug middle aged guys who confuse being aware of how the sausage is made with being the most intelligent people in the room. H&R are professional storytellers, they know the nuts and bolts of it as a craft, and that translates to Rick knowing how he exists as a character in a fictional setting that's delivered through the craft of storytelling, which is expressed as being a brilliant man of science. In real life, the mechanisms of reality are articulated through scientific theory and knowledge. Likewise, in a story, being genre savvy is how that is done. We barely ever see Rick do what could be described as actual science (that'd be boring for a show... unless you are Futurama), but rather doing story-science. He slaps some shiny bits together and makes a thing that gets him through the plot, where other characters are more subject to normal storytelling beats happening TO them (the hell Rick lives in is this too is the same as being subject to story beats, but just being aware of it). There's very little true experimentation with the art and craft of storytelling- Rick and Morty never gets that structurally weird, they just do normal storytelling but show off how much they know how to do it. This trick has limited appeal. Most creators know how it works, they just have the grace not to show their hand every opportunity. The metatextual bit about the Central Finite Curve being a closed system where Rick is the smartest man in the universe, that's the closed bubble of syndicated media production. The smartest men there are people like H&R, who know how tropes and traditional structuralist storytelling works. Harmon has basic ass diagrams cribbed off Campbell (who was also a weirdo nepo baby). Seasons 6 is where the show finally has a resolution, and conclusion to its thesis as a work of fiction. Since R&M is intrinsically tied to its self-awareness and metatexutality, the outing of Roilland as a sex pest and abuser offers up the ultimate point. The show is about how the middle aged men of privilege and authority REFUSE to change, but simply make gestures at it to get people to shut up and clap along to their one trick pony show and congratulate them on having a grain of self awareness that they're the middle children of the 20th century. The inability to really get nutty with it despite giving themselves the license to do so within the very confines of the show, and taking the easy way out and restoring the status quo shows how Rick and Morty isn't as subversive or intelligent as it pretends to be. Being self-aware is not the same as being intelligent. Ironically, the greatest shortcoming of these self-aware geniuses is their inability to internalize true encapsulations of their personalities. I.e. Just because you admit you have flaws doesn't mean you intuitively understand them as flaws. A flaw that you don't dedicate energy to change is not seen as a flaw to yourself, not really, it's seen as an acceptable trait that you wish others wouldn't bother you about. They didn't realize, even with all their metatextuality and self-references, that they were making an apt character study of themselves. If they did, they both wouldn't have got caught in their humiliating sex scandals, and furthermore, they would have realized their shortcomings and abdicated their roles as men in positions of power and authority. This isn't some intricate performance piece, just two dudes who are no smarter and better than anybody else getting caught up in their own hubris, with the show being a power fantasy, albiet a self effacing one. They've never really had their personalities checked in long lasting ways, so Rick always swerving away from true character development is a manifestation of that. Change is for other people, apparently. It's not really real, not for people like H&R (well, Roilland may find his life changing permanently LOL). Rick and Morty is two dudes nodding along to the solo of Freebird's message of "I can't change" and how romantically awesome it sounds. No man, it's not cool, how you can't change. It's obnoxious and harmful, how about you just change instead and grow, like an adult? No, H&R say, they have never needed to change, everyone else just needs to get off their backs about it. Being metatextual isn't the same as being creative. In fact, both are usually anathema to creativity, because the weirdest, most bizarre exercises that push the envelope into unexplored avenues of the human experience necessarily have to be earnest and sincere and don't have a neat little template to go by to pump them out on a regular schedule. Roilland's entire schtick is standing in the shadow of established conventions and institutions and pointing out how dark it is. Harmon's entire career is adhering to a diagram and being sort of bored with it after a while. These methodologies have highly visible limits, and so do its creators, and its fitting they'd resent people for finding out when they put it on display for all to see. You reap what you sow.

[@sideeggunnecessary]

This is the best post ive ever read.

[@RogueFox2185]

It lost the plot after S3, while there was good moments like with the President Morty Arc it was bogged down by fluff that often was more misses than a hit. And let’s not forget about the incest episode, even for R&M that felt off.

[@zeleeba8774]

The arch of the Evil Morty ended perfectly, what are you talking about?

[@laurocoman]

I rewatched the first two seasons a million times. I don't think I ever did the same with the rest. It was lightning in a bottle. I don't think those are coming back.

[@deleteduser122]

Did you all watch the season 7 episode 5? What do y'all think?

[@isjustanotherme]

sucked ass

[@lorenzopastorelli1114]

Well it’s okay, we not getting much more now 💀

[@dorien9127]

Whose here after adult swim has officially cut ties with Justin Roiland

[@RealNick04]

me

[@ethanhethcoat3144]

Literally anybody who replies to this comment because you commented A F T E R IT HAPPENED.

[@Dullsonic3]

I feel like we live in a bad timeline. If it was the good timeline, this show would remain a masterpiece.

[@racool911]

If anything it's more likely for there to be a timeline where this show becomes god awful. At least in our timeline the show is still pretty good

[@Tonmarutchi]

omor

[@thepresidentjulius3820]

@@racool911 You live in another timeline,My friend

[@darkira2129]

And covid never happen, also trump never be president, also no this sjw shit and people made up genders so people taking transpeople more seriously.

[@zachsutton6195]

Notice how Harambe died the year before Season 3 dropped?

[@cincymutt]

Instead of pushing headlines saying Justin Roiland had "nothing to do [creatively] with the show for years" - which is honestly hard to believe - they should've just said he was responsible for all the bad stuff.

[@TheFiresloth]

With a lot of the show being visibly ad-libbed, this was a pretty funny argument that the guy improvising the dialogue didn't add much to the writing.

[@Gerdbro]

All characters are Ricks now. This show jumped the shark long ago

[@silashurd3597]

When the world needed him, Cartoonshi returned

[@firecrakerj3312]

“If I just keep rambling on and on while I fumble on my words and pepper in F-bombs, eventually I’ll say something funny!” Justin Roiland, probably

[@horaciosi]

"And if that doesn't work, I'll just spout brainless pop cultural references!"

[@pyan9660]

Final Space and Inside Job are both amazing sci-fi shows that need renewals!! F this era of tv

[@nas0518]

You're gosh darn right they're both amazing! Both Final Space and Inside Job need to be brought back once and for all! #RenewFinalSpace #RenewInsideJob

[@tanishambrowne1137]

I agree I hope someone picks those up they are both great shows.

[@rafaelcastor2089]

It's telling of Justin Roiland's humor when the greatest joke in the game is Lezduit screaming "LEZDUIT!". It's Pickle Rick all over again