I think what he’s saying is the basic fundamentals work consistently against all opponents. Where specialty techniques only present a distinct advantage against someone that doesn’t know the technique. Then once those specialty techniques become known they lose there value because the element of surprise is gone.
@AbsoluteADCC2 жыл бұрын
Also most of the fundamental techniques, If done right, can be executed well even by my mother. But good luck teaching her rubber guard. And I’m speaking as a true flat earther and Eddie Bravo fan.
@GeorgeOu2 жыл бұрын
That's like saying fundamental jujitsu only works against people who don't know fundamental jujitsu. As much as I respect Rickson, he's just protecting the family business. Nothing wrong with that, I'm just calling it as it is. Another part of this interview is Rickson saying that leg locks were NOT frowned upon. That's a complete crock of BS. The Gracie family was instrumental in banning leg lock techniques in competitions so that they could maintain an advantage against a rival gym in Brazil. It took the ADCC and the Danaher Death Squad to finally show the world that you can't ignore half of the human body. The typical BJJ brown belt or even black belt is a novice in leg locks and that's only recently begun to change.
@unconcernedcitizen40922 жыл бұрын
@@AbsoluteADCC Was it Eddie who convinced you of flat earth?
@unconcernedcitizen40922 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeOu While I agree with most of what you say, that most black belts are unfamiliar with leg locks is, in my experience, a patently false claim, particularly for those of us who are smaller. I’ve dealt with anorexia since age nine and measure in at 5’ 11” and 118 pounds, and a good leg lock game is my savior.
@seanreed94722 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeOu The main reason the Gracies banned leg locks is they are bad for business. People get hurt before they have the chance to tap and injured people don't continue paying gym dues. It was a financial decision. On the other hand, Renzo never banned ANYTHING. This included training in wrestling, striking, etc. Renzo encourages it.
@teeremraf5394 Жыл бұрын
Explaining a move to Rickson Gracie is like explaining a punch to Mike Tyson.
@chrisjenkins584611 ай бұрын
And Eddie completely confused a gracie in bjj...he knows some slippery shit that they wasn't expecting
@wDs_death12 күн бұрын
@@chrisjenkins5846they snakes anyway, literally ripped all their moves from japanese fighters and named it after em! Kimura was a man ffs
@michaelstrong48232 жыл бұрын
I’m a huge fan of 10p. That being said, you don’t see people hitting subs with rubber guard at the highest levels of comp. everyone knows what it is and where it comes from. Rickson is correct.
@chillymeatball2 жыл бұрын
I've seen 'Dead orchard' used quite a bit.
@unclepalo2 жыл бұрын
Exactly rickson is just being frank and honest coming from him who was always ahead of everyone in his family
@ryanroyal92362 жыл бұрын
I like 10th as well and just to add to your point, has a 10p athlete ever won ADCC?
@damnson65562 жыл бұрын
i see people get put in dead orchards at a pretty high level
@ryanroyal92362 жыл бұрын
@@damnson6556 right on. Do you see them come from rubber guard? I'm not trying to argue or whatever, I'm just curious b/c I'm not a guy who watches a ton of bjj comps
@aleksandargrum2 жыл бұрын
Looks like Eddie Bravo didn't convinced him about rubber guard.
@tyrionlannister25652 жыл бұрын
Brother Eddie Bravo don’t get any love from the Gracies.
@tdhh16762 жыл бұрын
The question is a “Yes-No Question” which simply means that it works or not? But his answer was too long
@aleksandargrum2 жыл бұрын
Edgy Brah tapped him, and his ego is too big to get over it.
@@FreekFreeksma my bad, Royler, but anyway, ego of Gracies is too big to live with it.
@hanu98302 жыл бұрын
i think the same is true for guard attacks in general - works best on an ignorant opponent who thinks hes safe. high level mma has seen a decline in successful subs from guard
@traviscumbest39462 жыл бұрын
This is true, especially in top level no gi matches. While it can be a pain to pass it can be predictable
@pauloneneve85612 жыл бұрын
I dont know about that... just look up Roger Gracie, considered by many the goat in gi jiu jitsu and he is a master in the closed guard. Mike Musumeci, the list can go far. MMA is another subject because off the strikes, but a really good jiu-jitsu practitioner, like Charles Oliveira, get subs from the guard even in mma
@hanu98302 жыл бұрын
@@pauloneneve8561 with all due respect the point is not that guard attacks dont work anymore but that *lately* they have seen a *decline* in *mma* and *nogi* . rodger hasnt really competed since 2010 and the 2 subs hes had since then were from the back and top position. idk about this mike guy but it seems like he mostly competes in the gi. and oliveira is definitely a bjj wizard but still a small percentage of his wins come by guard attacks
@pauloneneve85612 жыл бұрын
@@hanu9830 got your point. But in Gi, the guard seems to still be effective. Mikey is a great guard player, a small guy that competes even in the absolutes.
@theinfjgoyim5508 Жыл бұрын
Both examples of guys have long frames.. definitely an exception
@mayatiita12 жыл бұрын
Great share 👍🏻 I love what he had to say about it 😊 Very nicely said I agree that with rubber guard it is easy to get stuck on bottom and shut down if the person on top knows what they are doing. And being stuck under a big strong opponent is a bad situation.
@leerobertson88652 жыл бұрын
When Rickson speaks on anything BJJ related, he is talking from authority. Machado is the guy that gave Eddie Bravo his black belt. He is also a life long friend, opponent and fellow Corral belt of Rickson. Rickson says that The two of them have analysed the Rubber Guard. The rest of us should really just shut up and listen to their findings.
@unclepalo2 жыл бұрын
Not only lifelong friend, that’s his literal cousin too
@gunnkata60892 жыл бұрын
JJM received his coral from Rickson.
@JEDIAL92 жыл бұрын
Well, my guy is known as the BJJ giant killer... *MARCELO GARCIA!*
@sarairvine97032 жыл бұрын
There also related not just friends when jjm first opened his school it was under the gracie banner was only because of family fueds he had to branch himself off but yeh I think they're cousins.
@ryanlynch2902 жыл бұрын
@@unclepalo Funnily, they're not blood cousins, but have cousins in common. I have a group like that. I have a couple cousins, children of my mom's sister. While I'm close with them, I'm actually closer to THEIR cousins, who I also grew up with but have no blood relation. The Machados and the Gracies are the same, if I'm not mistaken.
@damnson65562 жыл бұрын
rubber guard is much more effective from Jersey than new york imo. if you have a good jersey hook you can keep the angle while in new york you get flattened out and smashed by strong head position. don’t stay in rubberguard long tho you have to move fast
@k9aid5142 жыл бұрын
My all time Favourite met him at weekend Seminar in Niagara Falls Canada back in late 90s
@TheDanielmeeks2 жыл бұрын
The thing is mission control is easy to get out of and you can’t really launch your attacks if your not in the position long enough.
@johnpadilla85022 жыл бұрын
To my great teacher Rickson Gracie...your the best mi Maestro en Juijitsu..from Black Belt MMA Johnny Padilla & author...also your book Breath is excellente..!
@FLBoyCanScrap2 жыл бұрын
As time has told us, most people will never have the requisite flexibility to make rubber guard effective long term.
@aplacetobewithmythoughts7428 Жыл бұрын
This is why it's a strange technique to teach people who walk into the door. The vast majority of people don't have the flexibility and will never put in the thousands of hours of stretching to get there.
@dannyhipolito817 Жыл бұрын
@@aplacetobewithmythoughts7428 Shinya Aoki level flexibility is probably a level way too high to reach
@fatgirlboy9341 Жыл бұрын
explained the fighting mechanism extremely well
@e.rod.moto.2 жыл бұрын
Look at Marcelo Garcia and Eddie Bravo rolling.
@madisonsquaredoit26292 жыл бұрын
Look at Marcelo Garcia and anybody rolling. You’d think guard didn’t work at all if you judged it based on rolls with Marcelo
@e.rod.moto.2 жыл бұрын
@@madisonsquaredoit2629 although you make a good point, Rafael Lovato and JT Torres both are also on video rolling with Marcelo and both did very well. However you're right Marcelo is probably from another planet.
@fiftyforty-threemma29242 жыл бұрын
These dudes will never accept Eddie Bravo 🤣
@charlesxavier67852 жыл бұрын
Hickson should’ve fought Sakuraba and Bas, was called out by both
@mmmmilovesmma46132 жыл бұрын
You should fight someone Charles!
@charlesxavier67852 жыл бұрын
@@mmmmilovesmma4613 when I get paid to maybe I will!
@mmmmilovesmma46132 жыл бұрын
@@charlesxavier6785 how would you against baby arm Bas tomorrow night? 3 rounds mma rules
@charlesxavier67852 жыл бұрын
@@mmmmilovesmma4613 ide stay tf away from his right 😂
@mmmmilovesmma46132 жыл бұрын
@@charlesxavier6785 love it Charles
@Fauare7772 жыл бұрын
I work at a 10th planet gym, couldn’t agree with Rickson more
@MrDayday4641 Жыл бұрын
you work there, train there, or both?
@Comedy-Cult2 жыл бұрын
Ofc if someone knows about a technique they’ll be able to better defend against it, but it doesn’t mean much beyond that. if knowing a technique made it null and void then Eddie wouldn’t have been able to wipe the floor w Royler Gracie. Eddie got the better of him the 2nd time also (THOUGHT HE KNEW BOUT THE TECHNIQUES HUH?)
@diesel-aaronschroeder80492 жыл бұрын
Rickson is the Goat
@tdhh16762 жыл бұрын
I’m in total agreement with you
@viktor38022 жыл бұрын
not Gordon Ryan? or Roger? they have much more impressive carriers wouldn't you agree?
@louiszimmerman74252 жыл бұрын
@ viktor They are great but they never had a fight on the beach for families honor or did vale tudo no time limit fights…..Rickson is a legend in non sport bjj Gordon will be a legend in sport bjj
@tjl46882 жыл бұрын
@The Tide Rises Rolls is universally considered the best, while he was alive, yes.
@thesunisbright11 ай бұрын
rickson is like a doctor of bjj.
@aplacetobewithmythoughts7428 Жыл бұрын
Rubber Guard could be very effective in MMA. It's a great position where you can strike, and control posture and submit. The biggest problem to rubber guard is actually getting to the position to begin with. Having a guy's posture fully broken down where you have the ability to wrap your foot and arm around the back of his head is asking a lot.
@bobanmilisavljevic78572 жыл бұрын
Seemed to work good against royler 🤪
@k9aid5142 жыл бұрын
Rogan didn't ask Royler lol
@kristameyers2242 жыл бұрын
Twice
@bobanmilisavljevic78572 жыл бұрын
@@kristameyers224 that's funny because I forgot about the first time where he actually finished royler. I was just thinking about Eddie dominating the rematch 🙃
@kristameyers2242 жыл бұрын
Rickson is a very smart man, I'm very surprised he would say that, maybe it's like when we don't know very much about something we can be nervous or turned off about trying new things, 10p system is great there's things I love and things that don't work very well for me because I'm not that flexible
@kristameyers2242 жыл бұрын
@The Tide Rises for sure, I'm pretty sure Eddie Bravo will never get any love from the Gracies no matter what he wins or what he comes up with 😁
@googleuser5692 жыл бұрын
For those that can't comprehend. Yes, the rubber guard is great. However, every move must be set up, rather than making it obvious to counter, protect, and/or get caught in a move. In addition, a high level BJJ will be on alert of certain moves than a beginner, so be cautious on deciding which move is best to use within combat.
@SebastMorillo842 жыл бұрын
Rubber guard, twister, dead orchard we don't see working in a ADCC match. There is a lot of details and techniques behind the simple armbar or triangle. I like to train this kind of positions but "feijão com arroz" is more efficient.
@user-vc63 ай бұрын
adcc = no spine locks so no twister, we've seen rubber guard in adcc a couple of times. definitely in 2003 and 2005 also nino shembri used similar stuff to get a omoplata sub in 1998 adcc.. positions similar 'dead orchard'' high guard shoulder lock out have been used by xande and roger ...you just don't see many guys caught in closed guard and the times we do the guys aren't users of the exact moves
@stevena33332 жыл бұрын
Well, at least he’s honest in his opinion lol. Jiu jitsu is a very large industry with millions of practitioners around the world. Different styles work best at different times and for different people. In this clip, I can’t help but feel the bitterness in his voice as he remembers Eddie beating his brother, twice really.
@tdhh16762 жыл бұрын
Well, there’s no denying that Rickson Gracie is the GOAT but i think that he was not answering the question probably
@drstuartjacobsen2 жыл бұрын
you mean once
@Lia-ob2jk2 жыл бұрын
What? I think the bitterness is in you. He answered it sincerely. "Beating his brother". You are angry, man. He had to answer "it's amazing! The best guard ever! Enough to call Ajj from now on!". Wtf...
@drstuartjacobsen2 жыл бұрын
@@tdhh1676 the footage from the abu Dhabi looked fake AF..look into it
@tdhh16762 жыл бұрын
@@drstuartjacobsen which one ?
@alexrandell91992 жыл бұрын
Looks like Eddie needs to look into it a little more
@Victor-Soria2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Rickson needs to stop coping with Eddie surpassing his whole family in a handful of years.
@user-ic4oh4lt5r2 жыл бұрын
Rickson e o seu inglês de Joel Santana.
@razingcanez717 Жыл бұрын
He's a legend, but I wish he would have fought in Pride at the highest level.
@Malouco2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Rickson is going to watch fury wilder?
@mr.harroldramanan81542 жыл бұрын
After what just happened, I believe Everyone is glue to the Screen to See Heavyweights go ahead and fight for the Lineal World Heavyweight Championship.........
@djnovice1132 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% HOWEVER, I believe we could see more moves being utilized like The Truck, as practiced by Bryce Mitchell and Korean Zombie.
@josenpottackal40282 жыл бұрын
Twister?
@jumpingilly732 Жыл бұрын
Joe it’s pronounced “hubber” guard
@gitzcrazyboy2 жыл бұрын
Rickson: Eddie said to look into it. I did and its rubbish
@nicksantana93 Жыл бұрын
Man I’m sad they made that video private. Gracie’s probably asked joe to do it
@adam-lt8iy Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't surprise me if it was Eddies team, that whole video was pretty awkward lol
@lucasgreen40522 жыл бұрын
“ If you know what coming you can defend “. Isn’t that true with every position in Jiu Jitsu?
@brodiemorris59712 жыл бұрын
That was literally his next sentence
@estogaza58272 жыл бұрын
You missed his profound statement in order to be a contrarian and sound smart on KZbin. Sad.
@lucasgreen40522 жыл бұрын
@@estogaza5827 calm down Karen. Rickson is not going to promote you for hanging in his nutsack. relax.
@estogaza58272 жыл бұрын
@@lucasgreen4052 Nothing you wrote made sense. Which explains your original comment.
@lucasgreen40522 жыл бұрын
@@estogaza5827 I'm sorry you're a dumbass and comprehend basic communication.
@alvarosalgado3772 жыл бұрын
It doesn't look that he is against the use of the rubber guard, but rather that it is a very defensive position that doesn't offer enough opportunities to attack. P.S. I don't know shit about BJJ and I don't use the rubber guard. I am just interested in the sport.
@cancontrl2 жыл бұрын
LOL going for an arm bar from guard.
@CW-ke8rk2 жыл бұрын
What does this guy know? Oh wait, nvm..
@808frontline Жыл бұрын
Yet he still tapped out Royler Gracie 😂
@marcusf.899410 ай бұрын
So did Rickson about a million times without Rubber Guard. Remember Ricksons focus is always on the best techniques for the weak and unathletic. So it’s 100% predictable that he doesn’t endorse specialty moves that require very specific physical attributes.
@808frontline10 ай бұрын
@@marcusf.8994 that’s fact 🎯
@rotisseriebear53942 жыл бұрын
strength
@rotisseriebear53942 жыл бұрын
What a trip. I wrote a thoughtful comment, and hit comment, and one word from the comment posts twice. I've seen one comment from one video get posted to several other videos. KZbin needs to fix this. It happens to a lot of people.
@nadaadeclarification Жыл бұрын
O maluco fala inglês como se tivesse falando português, apesar de fluente é bizarro o sotaque kkkk
@christopherkabenguelle5474 Жыл бұрын
Você está falando do Rickson Gracie o GOAT do JJ. Mais respeito por favor
@SaltyJ3WBagles2 жыл бұрын
"If you know the move, you can counter it" super insightful take lol
@aikidoisthebombyeah Жыл бұрын
what he said was... rubber guard ain't shit...
@cr35t232 жыл бұрын
Isn't this for everything?
@tra1in12 жыл бұрын
Joe almost forcing Bravo and 10p system on Rickson. Good answer finally from Rickson.
@sirmungus71132 жыл бұрын
I thought the rubber guard was a condom
@macattack619 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 best comment
@itheuserfirst31862 жыл бұрын
The rubberguard has not lead to any revolution in sport BJJ, or MMA. The end. There's not trick.
@ronaldstokes65039 ай бұрын
Still beat rolyler
@hhspector30062 жыл бұрын
goat status no doubt
@sanethmarthos65962 ай бұрын
He is right! Even King Gordon Ryan doesn't acknowledge the rubber guard.
@Seawolfaka2 жыл бұрын
Excuses for loss is extremely frustrating. Because of your lack of expansion your family suffers . So so extremely sad and sorry for your excuse’s
@bane399111 ай бұрын
In other words, its a low percentage technique. But there are a lot of low percentage techniques that even Rickson teaches such as the Americana. That doesnt work past white belt. That doesnt mean its a bad technique theres a time and place.
@beyondthebasicsinpolish Жыл бұрын
Eddie vs Royler 2 is all the proof one needs in my view. The Gracie family, many of them are purists in a way
@AJ-zd7lr2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a hater
@vagabond45762 жыл бұрын
Hater or not. He did his time. No amount of bandwagon you use will stop what he has influenced.
@jesseflores90872 жыл бұрын
To be fair, a Gracie is never gonna admit that a non-Gracie move is effective...
@Victor-Soria2 жыл бұрын
just say that he's better than you guys
@MontyQueues2 жыл бұрын
10th Planet Sucks
@sofritopapi2 жыл бұрын
He spoke in circles. Said nothing specifically about the "rubber guard." Thanks for wasting my time. Appreciate that!
@flipgsp2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you wasting my time reading your whiny comment 😂
@Larryandhisbelts2 жыл бұрын
He LITERALLY said that the reason he isn't ALL IN with rubber guard is because its a technique that is either nullified by an experienced Jiu Jitsu practitioner, or it somewhat stalemates the match. How much more simplistic do you want it? Just the fact you're questioning the MASTER makes your statement incredibly laughable.
@sofritopapi2 жыл бұрын
@@Larryandhisbelts I don't like anything simplistic because I don't have a simple mind like you worthless troll. I don't consider any man my master but the most high. Now you cam ef off little soft boy. I can you better than tell you. I'm a grown man. Don't try me.
@fighterx41332 жыл бұрын
@@Larryandhisbelts all bjj moves can be nullified by trained practitioners. This is why lots of really high end matches come off as boring. If he was trying to make the argument that there isnt a variation or transitions from rubber guard to a variety of submissions then he isnt being honest and only wants Gracie bjj to be taken seriously.
@esscate2 жыл бұрын
@@fighterx4133 He just said he doesn't believe in it.
@kubikiribasara34992 жыл бұрын
I have paid attention to Dickson for the past 30 years and I can say he has an analytical mind but is extremely biased.