How To Backup Pocket Operators // Save your PO-33 beats!

[@VictorSteiner]

Teenage Engineering should have made this video, and months ago. Thanks!

[@adrianovalenzuela1373]

I have a scarlett, I want my pocket to sound in my speakers, what kind of cables do I need? Good morning and thanks!

[@mattb6542]

My thoughts entirely. Ricky really is the reference point for these devices. Love this content, thanks.

[@3oznut]

Dude I’ve been watching ur vids since I was like 17. I’m finally getting into production, I certainly would not know as much as I do without ur channel. U have had such an impact on my learning process and I feel that I would not be where I am without u. Thank u so much and I hope ur life is full of wonder and peace

[@guiom77]

That 's a beautifull message ‼️

[@zooblestyx]

For your PO-33 and Zoom H1, I can recommend volume 12 on the PO, and lo cut off, auto level off, WAV 48kHz/16bit and input level 17 on the H1. Hope that helps. #H1represent

[@RickyTinez]

Badass thank you!

[@zooblestyx]

@@RickyTinez My pleasure

[@TheBaconEarBuccaneer]

@@RickyTinez I cant afford an audio interface, can i plug in the cable into my laptop and record that way?

[@zooblestyx]

UPDATE: Turns out, MP3 @ 320 also works.

[@genisphyla]

@@zooblestyx Bruh

[@marcussmithereens-smithert5409]

Thank you so much! I've been wondering how to do this for the longest time, saw backups mentioned in the PO manual but never figured it out. In case anyone was wondering, backed up my PO-33 onto my Tascam DR-05 using a normal 3.5mm (stereo obviously) aux cable into the line in. I then whacked the recorded backup onto my laptop and played it through the same 3.5mm cable via audacity!

[@hugefood]

Ha I watched this vid for the first time over a year ago and just completed my first successful KO data transfer. I am overjoyed. Thx for all tips Ricky!

[@VictorSteiner]

Dual quarter mono to 8 inch stereo cable was one of two things that worked for me (I tried different stuff for 4 months and was pretty sad about backups not working) The other thing is dual quarter to dual quarter directly into a ZOOM H2n.

[@setphaser]

frida is adorable! i had no idea i could back up my tracks! this is why i stopped using it, i have the perfect song on there and don’t want it to die!

[@leewightman8619]

Iv been recording my p.o into the tuscam dp008 i can duplicate the tracks and play one panned more to left and one paned more to right ..i some times just record it straight to mini disc but like messing about with the tuscam that way i can live record stuff over it to edit it with the Yamaha DJx...works for me

[@DahseOne]

Great video as well as all of your videos! I really like that you have put this much interest in the pocket operators, and I like that you are trying to explain as much as possible info for them, but I'd like to let you know that I don't mind just jam videos with you trying to make songs with them! I think you have done more than enough in the theoretical part so just enjoy them and if we can see it that'd be great!

[@oliverlovekin]

Video production on this is next level!!! Very clear and informative too! Well done Mr. Tinez!

[@BrentRoos]

Awesome! This was one of the things that concerned me in deciding whether or not to buy one of these. Looks like this answers that question. Thanks Enrique! Your channel is one of my favorites! By the way, watching your tutorials on the Novation Circuit convinced me to buy one and I absolutely love it!

[@RickyTinez]

thanks Brent! yea this backups have always been a bit taboo i felt. but they're not as difficult as some people make it out to be! Glad you found this video helpful as well as the others!

[@JasperEikmeier]

This kind of informational video's make the world a better place.

[@gogotrololo]

man i'm glad you show the ableton steps... getting my first PO-33 project into my first run with ableton could have been a lot more challenging without this haha

[@laura_hunt]

Thank you! I just got my first Pocket Operator, the PO-16, which can't do backups, but the explanation on how to record to your DAW is simply perfect!

[@freddyburger5574]

I can't thank you enough for this video! I was about to try to do a backup using my mono Olympus recorder, but I thought "I wonder if Enrique's done a video on the Pocket Operator backup feature?" I just successfully backed up and restored using a 1/8" stereo to dual 1/4" mono cable and my TASCAM DP-008EX. w00t-w00t!

[@RickyTinez]

Hell yea! Glad i got you covered Freddy, You have any music up? i'd love to check it out!

[@freddyburger5574]

@@RickyTinez Thanks for the interest man! I don't currently have anything on social media, but I will soon. After a hiatus of 15 years I'm resurrecting my old music/circuit bending hobby from the '90s with today's amazing noise toys. So many fantastic pieces of equipment were coming out at affordable prices, I couldn't NOT get back into it! Most all of my music was recorded on 4-track cassette, and I'm now in the process of transferring it to digital media (super tedious!) I'll be sure to leave you a link in a comment on one of your future vids once I get some headway.

[@4giveness]

Hi Freddy. I'm glad I found your comment. I also have a TASCAM DP-008EX. I was only able to recover a partial backup. I am missing drum banks 11-16. The counter on the PO-33 gets to 39 and then it gives me an error during the data transfer from my TASCAM. Would you mind sharing the steps you took? Thank you!

[@Lowerhaightstreet]

If using Ableton make sure to turn off Warp button (if it is set to auto) in the audio track for your back up when sending back to the PO. I dont know how sensitive the PO is but one day I wasted literally 2 hours trying to load some patches on a Juno 60 lol

[@teckno_senpai]

so so so helpful !!! always love your stuff ricky. a music master i never knew i needed. watched ton of your videos in the past 2 months and it elevated my music skills and taste a lot. thx and keep up the great work

[@Sulkworm]

I actually ordered a trrs aux cable and am able to plug my PO 33 into my phone and record my patterns via a voice recorder. The trrs cable tricks the phone into thinking there is a microphone plugged in but it is getting input from the po. This way I don't have to plug it into my computer every time I want to back it up.

[@RickyTinez]

whoa that's awesome, i use something similar with the iPhone but i hear that the recordings are Mono. Which phone are you on?

[@Sulkworm]

Enrique Martinez yeah mine is also in mono I just record only the sound coming out of my PO.

[@Seth-hc2bj]

@@Sulkworm how do you back it up on the phone if the phone records in mono

[@joshingleby9956]

Mine errors on the restore halfway through. Levels look good on the record, didn't use an adaptor to the Focusrite, only issue I can think of is i used 48kb vs 44.1. After the error'd restore (@ 73% on the PO, but probably 50% of the timeline audio file) and i play around with the PO some of it is there but understandably lots isn't. To do the backup I used a stereo 1/8" -> 2x mono 1/4" to the 2i2. Levels looked good at about -8. 48000 / buffer 256 samples. Any additional tips on what might have messed this up? Thx for your thorough tutorial :)

[@Roisindubh83]

Couldn’t get it to work for a few hours than I took the time to patiently listen to what you were teaching following the exact instructions and bam it work you’ve been the go too for a long while much respect

[@jasonex4027]

Thank you so much man, I was doubting if buying one as everyone told me they could not get connected to the computer due to that they have no midi output, but I thought they might be some ways to record what they process... and you made it very clear, I can buy what I need in order to do so as I have my own external soundcard and I'll definitelly go buy the one I like the most. Very much appreciated.

[@vhsgus]

Can I export the K.O. II EP-133 with this method too?

[@xtraespee]

omg finally a video that explains HOW to create and record tracks! THANK U !!!! love ur channel!

[@madimakes]

brilliant. man great explanation. i do think it says "rcv" maybe for receive -- but ey it's all mad digital looking, so :)

[@RickyTinez]

Ah good catch! Thanks for that info man

[@geoffwhite2808]

Dig your videos and recommend them to people (in person). You already know this, but naming the ableton tracks prior to recording names the tracks. You can probably name all the tracks (audio files) after the recording. Whoever figures out how that’s done wins a prize. I like to name things afterwards.. as I don’t know what it wants to be named until I hear it half the time. Bonus points for ableton sample chop exported to another folder without having to dork around with the workaround. Glad to hear you quit your square job to do this. Dig. Oh ps., if you’re a programmer you have to, some day, make an interesting music gadget. In the meantime.. keep up the solid efforts. Best, g

[@dillipphunbar7924]

Very helpful....didn't notice this level of information in my PO-33 manual...thanks Ricky...

[@hoxton_hummingbird]

Dumb starter guy question while i wait for my PO to arrive in the mail: i still don't get why i can't do the backup/transfer with an auxiliary cable directly?

[@dandanbachar]

Newbie here too. I just got my PO and have been trying to connect it to my Macbook Pro, to use in Garageband. A part my newly acquired knowledge is the fact that there are (at least) two types of aux cables; one with two rings on it, and one with three. Apparently, headphones that have a built-in microphone have a 3-ring AUX whereas normal headphones have only two, so based on that fact one could assume that (at least) one 3-ring AUX cable is needed. However I just received my cable and my Macbook still doesn't recognize the PO as a possible input source, so I guess a receiver is needed for that

[@rubenstaps9461]

im also having this problem. Do you need a audio interface to be able to get your beats into ableton? doesnt work with a three ring cable and i think it’s because the macbook doesnt have a line-in port

[@shmiqqy]

i don't use daws or have a po-33 but my first trial and error would've been playing it directly to audacity at full volume and saving it, wondering why this wouldn't work before that obviously i'd have actually put it into my op-1 but if i didn't have it, audacity would've been my go to

[@dnldr4386]

Yes, but the challenge with not using an external sound card is that audio sometimes sucks on computers. Also many laptops now have mono mic and stereo headphones input. That said you can use a stereo lead direct to a stereo input. We use Audacity with Beringer 18 input interface. That way we have dedicated out and in for our stereo mini jack devices.

[@teunpolderman1104]

Wasn’t a video like this out, so thanks this was really clear

[@Degear-ls5lw]

Hey-o Ricky, thanks so much for all your tutorials and videos! I seem to have an issue with restoring a backup with my K.O. For some reason after the 3 (out of 4) minutes, my K.O. screen says "ERR" and it stops the restore, some samples are also gone. I'm recording the backup on Ableton Live, stereo etc. exactly as you're doing it.

[@Defines1776]

I’ve been watching all your po-33 videos and I reaaaaly like your content man.

[@tbhv]

thanks - this was super helpful - also your videos are primo in terms of production!

[@Greenbit5721]

Loved your take on the po33, I hope you're still using it! Was actually looking to see how hard this would be, thanks a ton!

[@enoodle]

Thank you for this resource! I just got a 32.tonic and wasn't sure what the best solution for me would be. Getting a dual mono jack will be ideal for recording quick jams

[@fauvier3899]

Hi Ricky, sorry but i didn't understand where did you plugged the output of the PO 33 (at 12:22)

[@Boomstick17]

Finally a video where AUTO FOCUS is actually doing a good job! Thanks for the tutorial!

[@yingtianfu]

Hi, I'm wondering would the scarlett solo work? thank you!

[@DavidZack-Jeephead]

I have the same question

[@yingtianfu]

@@DavidZack-Jeephead I think it would work with the Scarlett solo only if you record it as stereo. I just bought a 2i2 just because it's the most popular audio interface

[@maxmatson1578]

I have both the PO-33 and 35 and I knew the 35 could be backed up with data file recording, but I didn't know if the 33 could? thank you for showing!🙏👍✌

[@Ludwigooo]

You can also send the backup track back to the PO the same way that you recorded it into the computer with? Except the dual mono-cables would be in the left/right output on the AI and the 3,5 mm stereo would be in the input of the PO

[@noodles4921]

Odd question would adding a di box help Po-dual mono-di box-two xlr-audio interface

[@alvareo92]

As an aside, I recently read a couple comments here www.operator-1.com/index.php?p=/discussion/4163/po-33-ko-owners-questions-observations/ that suggest you're better off wiping factory sounds before backing up if your sample memory is full or close to it, otherwise the PO will attempt to restore the factory sounds too instead of just skipping over them and using the self-generated ones, giving you an error and basically rendering your backup obsolete unless you break off the lock tab or something.

[@gnobal]

I can't believe it. Just a few hours before watching the video I backed up my PO-33 to my phone for the first time. Pretty sure the backup was mono, so it's gone. Oh well :) Thanks for another great video!

[@saggygnaw]

1:56 I have a sweet little chihuahua mix named Frida too

[@LeshaRodin]

Ty, was trying it many times and didnt realize that it can take 3+ min and never goes through the end, now will try again with your tips!

[@ruawav]

You stated that this will only work for the metal series. I imagine I would have to sync my PO-14 to one of these and follow these steps in order to record both

[@coversine479]

I think he just means the backup won't work. You can record the PO-14 as normal if you just want to record the audio output

[@ruawav]

David Baerg true.

[@RickyTinez]

Exactly what David said, you can record using this same method. Mainly for the backups

[@neonpop80]

How do I transfer to my Zoom H4N? Are the two XLR line inputs the only connections? I tried with the "ext mic" jack in the back but that didn't work. I might be doing something wrong.

[@J.M.Stigner]

I come back to this video every time! Cheers man

[@arifmemovic3383]

Thank you so much. I was unable to figure out how to backup patterns.

[@NotYetDecided404]

I just have one input in my focusrite solo. What's the alternative?

[@jthorpe4droid]

Cool tutorial, I didn't know how to record stereo in live, so I learnt something too. The data transfer reminds of of home computers with tape cassettes.

[@adrianovalenzuela1373]

I have a scarlett, I want my pocket to sound in my speakers, what kind of cables do I need? Good morning and thanks!

[@rajgill7576]

To put it bluntly, you have to do it yourself? There’s no something-to-usb cable to just dump data? So we figure it out. I don’t have the in between device like you mention, field recorder. Is that something I have to invest in now or can I go straight into my computer?

[@lionelkentler]

This might be stupid bc you probably explained it but can you just record it into a zoom h4n? Bc then you could just plop that sd card into your computer and boom. Done. How would you do that? Thanks a lot!

[@RickyTinez]

Yep! would work essentially the same as the ableton method i showed

[@rabevier8071]

Thats exactly how i do it i use po33 record it the h4n zoom using the mtr mode ...its amazing..good video homie!good tips and trick on saving sounds !

[@lionelkentler]

Enrique Martinez Music thank you so much! My 33 just arrived and I’m in love.

[@katesolis5841]

Super helpful, but is there anyway to backup non 30-series model? (I'm looking at the cheaper PO-14)

[@KarzenX]

He’s no Enrique Iglesias, but is a pretty damn good Enrique Martinez ! PO videos are proper top of the range ! Thanks

[@drewharry88]

Quick question.. I’m using a Teenage Engineering stereo cable 3.5mm from the output of KO! to a 1/4in adapter then plugging that into the input on my audio interface.. it’s insanely quiet though. I have it set to line instead of instrument but still crazy quiet.. think it’s bc of the adapter or should I just get a stereo cable with an XLR on one end and go into the mic input instead? It’s a M-Audio interface so not great but never had anything be this quiet before..

[@Jessica-nv3uo]

I have a Scarlett solo, would I have to get different cords? If so could you assist me on the type to get.

[@domrendell7524]

Cheers man, wouldn't of been able to back up without this. All worked swell.

[@arkaholicn1456]

Thanks for making these videos it helps out a ton!

[@ruddogg101]

Is there a way to receive sound packs from an iPhone? I keep getting error messages when I try and receive the packs after going to factory settings

[@adamshaw46]

Hi your videos are great you explain all the details I want to know. I don't know much about audio. I'm curious what the difference is between recording two inputs from your dual mono cable and duplicating a mono recording after it is recorded to recreate the stereo. Is there a reason you're not really able to?

[@rmbk009]

Does the PO-33 actually outputs in Stereo? is there any difference between the recorded channels in Ableton? I though the PO-33 outputs in Mono ... so to record in Stereo gives you anyway two channels with exact the same material in both channels = Mono. No panorama stereo whatsoever. Did I miss something?

[@sweepstakes]

The backup signal is stereo. If you try to restore from a mono backup signal, it won't work.

[@davidramirez4443]

Great video dude! One question, I'm trying to save my beat from the PO-14 but the command "Write + Sound + Play" doesn't work, am I doing something wrong? Thanks mate!

[@17valley]

Would something like a tascam DP-006 work for recording a PO33?

[@anderspearson4596]

I have everything to backup my PO33 but my interface (Scarlett solo gen 2) doesn't have two inputs to use a 1/8 dual cable with, it just has a line/instrument input and a mic input. Any workarounds?

[@Juanfernandoz]

mono

[@___Benedetto]

I love your dog also I don’t have an audio interface I have a pocket operator pp-33

[@cjw4381]

Awesome video very easy to follow. I was always interested in electronic music and am more serious about it now I just discovered your channel and don't know if they exist yet but was looking for a program more on the windows side of things. Do you have any suggestions and would you do a video in the future about them?

[@katiekennedy1982]

loving your videos! can i ask, as i’m not super organised with my ableton... do you find it easier to have all your PO back ups / audio files in one PO project file/live set, then? or do you have a live set for each one?

[@skwashiiiiii]

Will the Tascam you linked be able to record properly without the stereo cables? Also will the PO be able to receive back up data from it as well?

[@RickyTinez]

mmm i want to say it should, it really depends on where the sound is coming from also.

[@skwashiiiiii]

@@RickyTinez I ended up buying one, and it does work. Thank you man.

[@samplikprost]

Wow! Great information! I have never been able to transfer data from my computer to PO-33. Now I know what cables I need. Thank you very much for your help!

[@shamardaniel4819]

How can I save projects to my iphone? I would really appreciate if you can give it a try. Because a laptop and audio interface are kinda out of range for me. Thanks

[@robertobasp5767]

Amazing video. Is there any chance to record using a Scarlett Solo?

[@alanensalanens]

Love the vids bud. You're a natural teacher.

[@jkv6240]

Will the samples vanish when I turn the KO off? (=Will the EEPROM be erased when the batteries are taken out?) Do I have to load the samples to the KO each time I restart the device?

[@raycrouch770]

This is great! I successfully transferred my PO 33 data using an audio interface, but I still don't understand how back up the audio with my field recorder! How to?

[@japlin9500]

Hey man I love your videos! I have the PO-133 on the way. I suppose since it’s based off the KO with just street fighter samples it can still be backed up like all of the 30 series?

[@brandonmoore9503]

Hey, I just got a PO-128, and have a beat that I wanna transfer to my DAW. The 128 isn’t capable of true backups (I think) like the 33 is, so I just want to record it as a regular audio file. Do I need to get one of those dual output cables for that, or will a regular aux work fine?

[@snyperbob]

When you save a backup to something like Ableton, does it break the pocket operator export into different channels? Or is it all saved to just one channel in Ableton, and that's all you get. That's something I haven't been able to figure out, before buying my first PO. Looks like it saves it all to just one channel.

[@RickyTinez]

Pretty sure it’s just one stereo channel

[@snyperbob]

@@RickyTinez thank you

[@juangsantos]

@Ricky Tinez I was recommended the iRig2, any recommendations on how to back it up with the iRIg and garage band? I'm a newbie

[@ceetronic]

Super video demo, many thanks Ricky!

[@stevefitzherbert]

this process will also work with ep -133 ko2 right?

[@MatthewHyatt]

So doing this into a stereo effects pedal would be dope too.

[@allgonewrongful]

You can also run it thru an nts-1

[@MrOuija-rr8kq]

They should make a vst that reads your backups and allows you to manipulate what you made but on your computer

[@bias3026]

Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks!

[@chaosdomain4682]

Hi Rich, this is Javier, from Spain. I'll wish to know if the Tascam works like the interface you have in the video. The plug entries seem quite different. I'll wish to work with it in a mobile phone or a tablet. Which one will u recommend. If you have time to answer I'll be grateful. Thanks in advance, Love, Peace & Anarchy.... Javier

[@chaosdomain4682]

Jus to make it clear... Notice that Love & Peace are right before Anarchy.. Just that, 🙌💖

[@KINGDEAD2]

so what if I want 2 songs on there. if I record on track 3 would it erase all the other audio? and if that's the case would I just put two songs back to back in abelton and back that up to track 1 on po?

[@lionelkentler]

Hey, another question. when I sample a melodic element, it maps to the po-33 in a certain scale. I was wondering if I could change that scale. Thanks!

[@RickyTinez]

Not that I know of. Someone said pentatonic scale is what it sets too.

[@BurtReyes]

i don’t know if you’ve figured this out yet, but i just got one not too long ago and this might help you out. found this Minor scale: Play pad 13 and tune sample to root note Major scale: Play pad 15 and tune sample to root note I don’t think it can be chromatic.

[@GrumpyStormtrooper]

@@BurtReyes With the minor scale is it normal with the b6 or is it Dorian mode?

[@thebmxband1t]

See Ya Later Oscillator Class I want that hat👍 Thanks man Another thoroughly useful clip Great work man👍

[@RickyTinez]

I appreciate it man! I got a few styles here, let me know what you think! shopenrique.bigcartel.com/

[@Brontosauredumarais]

Awesome video, thanks Enrique! Hey for smaller budgets, what do you think of the Behringer UMC202HD? Is it really worth adding fifty bucks for the Focusrite? Thanks!

[@RickyTinez]

I think so. Focusrite has such a strong history in making preamps and audio interfaces. That’s all they do and they have a strong focus on nailing it. But if your budget fits the behringer and you can put that $50 towards other things than go for it!

[@josephkhouri8015]

This is the most helpful video ever, I honestly cant thank you enough

[@fabkie]

Enrique... top video.. again. The following question might be a bit offtopic, but i cant find no answers elsewhere: If i arrange a beat in the K.O. and it gets a bit more complex, there comes a point where (for example) the snare or hihat gets „lost“ in the mix. It just seems to be gone. If i move out a certain other sample it might get back. Is that just a thing that the POs cannot handle or is there something i‘m doin wrong... Enrique or anyone... ideas? Thanks!

[@distorson]

That is actually normal. The K.O. can just play a few sounds in the same time. It will cut out the drum sounds if a few of samples from the harmonic slots are playing together.

[@yourchildrensghost9736]

I know this is an Old video but it helped me out Tremendously, Thank you.

[@juangsantos]

@Ricky Tinez what if you dont have an audio interface? What do you suggest to just import audio into your MacBook from the Pocket Operator?

[@arinevakaoppositaer7241]

Intuitive tutorial mate! I dont understand the technology behind this but it is absolutely smart.. does it also back up your own recorded samples??

[@RickyTinez]

Yep!

[@mikehobi]

Late to the party. If I just want to record into audio interface, can I use a stereo 3.5 to stereo 1/8 into my inst input (beringher um2)?

[@ruddogg101]

Have you figured out how to transfer data from your pocket operator to cell phone and cell phone to pocket operator yet because I keep getting errors transferring data from my phone to my 133

[@piranga8]

cut the noise!!

[@alpakaalpaka3983]

piranga8 🤣

[@grg537]

🤣 love the white noise

[@toneheel624]

Hello a few questions I’m getting a po33 and would like to know what cables i can use to record on a tascam dr05 also I know you can sample by just using the record button on the po33 but if I wanted to record a sample off a vinyl record like cable wise also hell even speakers if I wanted to use them to listen to the po33 instead of using the build in what are some good brands to check out

[@andresunwin-martinez4914]

Why the backup if you are already recording the output?

[@pnaaberi]

Hey, I’m interested what makes the hissing noise when you go to your laptop?

[@ItsWizki9d]

What if your interface has only one input for quarter inch?