Ridiculously Hard Landing Destroys DC-10 at BWI (World Airlines 8535)

On May 6, 2009, at about 1302 Eastern Daylight Time (EDT), an aircraft referred to by the NTSB as a "Boeing DC-10-30," registration N139WA, operated by World Airways as flight 8535, experienced an outrageously hard landing on runway 10 at Baltimore/Washington-Thurgood Marshall International Airport, Baltimore, MD (BWI). The flight crew executed a go-around and landed on runway 33L. The flight was a non-scheduled international passenger flight, operated under 14 CFR Part 121, and had departed Leipzig, Germany at 0700 central European time. The flight was operated under a contract with the U.S. Department of Defense Air Mobility Command carrying troops returning from Iraq. The first officer experienced a serious neck injury. The captain, flight engineer and 9 flight attendants reported minor injuries. There were no additional injuries reported among the 168 passengers. The aircraft sustained substantial damage.
Before landing the airplane began a pitch up flare maneuver at about 45 feet above the runway threshold. The main landing gear (MLG) touched down first, with the airplane in about a 5.5 degree nose up attitude. Peak vertical acceleration at this touchdown was recorded as 1.6G, and the crew reported it to be a “firm” touchdown. The airplane bounced slightly, extending the main struts and becoming airborne once again. The captain perceived the airplane bounce and the nose pitched up, and he attempted to re-establish a normal landing attitude. Recorded data shows the control column position then shifted from the "pull" used during the flare to a "push" for two seconds. The pitch attitude decreased rapidly. As the nose-down pitch rate built up, the column position switched back to a "pull” and the nose landing gear (NLG) hit the runway at a recorded pitch attitude below zero and an FDR recorded vertical acceleration spike of 2.8G. The captain reported that he felt he had no elevator authority to arrest the derotation.
The cockpit voice recorder recorded a sound consistent with spoiler handle activation, but shortly afterward the flight engineer called “no spoilers.” Spoiler and handle position was not a recorded parameter on this airplane, however Boeing performance analysts note that it is possible that the spoilers were knocked down due to throttle advance.
The pitch attitude then rebounded, reaching a pitch of 10 degrees nose up less than two seconds later. Both pilots reported the pitch rose very quickly. The control column then switched back to a "push" and engines 1 and 2 began spooling up. The pitch then began to drop rapidly and the NLG impacted the runway a second time, with a peak recorded vertical acceleration over 3.2G. Some dropouts of FDR data were observed at this point. Engines 1 and 2 were accelerating through approximately 85% N1 at the time of the second NLG impact and engine 3 was spooling up through about 50%. The pitch attitude rebounded again and a go-around was initiated, with all 3 engines at climb power.
Smoke appeared in the cockpit during the climbout, which the crew diagnosed as an overheating AC pack. Some attitude instrumentation was lost, the inertial reference units were damaged and dislodged, and the #1 hydraulic system failed. The Captain declared an emergency with ATC. The controller advised the crew that they appeared to have damaged the nose gear and left debris on the runway.
The controller-in-charge activated the crash phone and called an “Alert II” notifying the airport rescue and fire fighting equipment and also notified the airport authority. The flight was vectored to a visual approach to runway 33L, remaining in visual conditions and using standby instruments due to the instrumentation failures. The flight deck crew then proceeded to prepare for a landing with blown nose tires and communicated twice with the cabin crew to prepare for an emergency landing. The landing and rollout on runway 33L were successful with no further incident, ARFF vehicles were standing by at the runway and responded immediately as the airplane stopped on runway 33L. The aircraft was wrecked.
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[@KingKidKobra_]

do you know if this aircraft was a MD-10 (a dc-10 which was converted to newer and more modern cockpit instruments) or just a regular DC-10?

[@r0cketplumber]

"We'll have to stay underneath the clouds, we lost our attitude indicator." Yeah, it's a hard landing when you break the bearings on the gyro instruments.

[@brainwashingdetergent4128]

This is the same camera that captures all UFO footage.

[@gastankbassgtb3894]

Possibly. Individuals in the flight deck were clearly green.

[@gianmarcoalberini5289]

And the same they used for Bigfoot

[@richardcranium3417]

Potato cam

[@stephennina]

That was a good one!

[@encinobalboa]

Add shaky cam and it would be perfect for UFO and Bigfoot.

[@josephastier7421]

0:55 That wasn't a landing, it was a ricochet.

[@richardcranium3417]

Bank shot

[@paulslevinsky580]

I'm gonna use that :)

[@Ofinfinitejest]

Technically called a "firm" ricochet.

[@dr.zoidberg4313]

Hard to believe just one roll of FLEX TAPE and it's back in service.

[@ddegn]

I refuse to up vote "FLEX TAPE" comments even if this one did make me smile a bit.

[@nopenotme6369]

:D

Phil swift with flex plane

[@MJLeger-yj1ww]

@@ddegn I agree! Next they'll be saying "get Chuck Norris to put some Flex Tape on it!"

[@MJLeger-yj1ww]

Ha, ha, ha! (BTW, I thought FlexTape was only used on boats!)

[@patrickmcmurray9446]

That air controller is called a PRO !!! Quite well done

[@Emipaso]

“One nose gear blowed in one of the touchdowns”. Reminded me of my first CFI telling me “Good landing! The second one..”

[@robertheinkel6225]

While working KC-135 tankers,we had a plane doing touch and go landings. On final landing, the left keel beam bay door was missing. It is a panel about ten feet long, located by the landing gear. The right panel was bent. Management didn't worry about the bent panel and blamed the missing panel on the maintenance crew. I kept saying if you find out what bent the right panel, you will know what happened to the left one. Months later a local farmer returned the missing panel, with all the fasteners intact. The pilot finally admitted to a very hard landing, and we finally did the proper hard landing inspection. Management never apologized for throwing us under the bus in the first place.

[@BojaneBugami]

Starts about fs540 I think. Been all over those myself also.

[@redtorino]

Of course they wouldn't. It's easier to throw lower-levels under the bus.

[@PatrickJWenzel]

Similar thing happened to me in the Australian Air Force when I was an aircraft mechanic. P3 Orion was heading for the water unable manipulate the ailerons until 300ft - supposedly. We did three full inspections of the aileron and flap control linkages and rear spars and aileron/flap wells. Found one little rivet tail from the 1960s and they decided that was the cause and I was to blame as I'd done the inspection on a previous check. I was essentially digging my own grave. Somehow it came out that the ailerons had iced up because they'd been flying straight and level in freezing moisture for too long. Thanks guys. Could have spared me an awful lot of worry, guilt and panic. Now I fly for a living and for all the stories I have of flight crew preserving themselves I'll never forget what it felt like to be left in the dark. You have to look after the people that are looking after you, maybe at 3am and outside in the rain, changing a wheel or rigging your flight controls.

[@living4christ]

They are to concerned about what the next drill is going to be, probably asked if the damage was real world or sim a 100 times.

[@bomguy999999]

The Air Force will never blame a pilot if they can screw ground personnel. I forget the date but they tried to blame me for overfilling fuel a C141 and it blowing a tire on takeoff. All we did was take the fuel load to what the aircrew wanted. Even told them about it prior to flight

[@mccitstudent]

That tower operator is AWESOME!!!

[@BPJJohn]

Which Pixel is the Plane?

[@Jin-Ro]

I know right. I had a webcam with better quality than that back in 2000

[@yngvai777]

Looks like Lego.

[@lamarw7757]

The one that wiggles across the top of the screen, from right to left.

[@freakyflow]

Kim Jong Il 2009 ..like it says

[@ferrari2k]

Please upload your version with better resolution, everybody would be happy with that.

[@clayz1]

The design of the fuselage spreads any load thru the different members so effectively that instead of breaking the plane apart, it just bent everything in and around that area. I guess that’s obvious looking at the pictures, but it is good design, and it can only take so much.

[@h8GW]

If only they could've designed the DC-10 family to have stable approaches in the first place, though...

[@bob-a-saursrex3662]

I used to work at bwi and have seen the damage to this plane up close, it's hard to believe the front half didn't snap off.

[@nolanohana]

Plane is still at the airport, used for training purposes

[@verothacamaro]

Is it in a hanger?

[@nolanohana]

Vero Tabares at the end of the airport in the open, check out BWI airport on Google Earth

[@meldroc]

Yeah, it's not flying again after the damage shown in that vid - frame-members were completely bent, hydraulic lines got popped loose - when you see wrinkles in the plane's skin like that, that means you bent the frame. Totaled.

[@kwkspectre]

I didn't think you were serious, but sure enough, it's there.

[@verothacamaro]

@@nolanohana Awesome - I live nearby. Would love to check it out.

[@ohioexpax1592]

Was flying an American 767-300 from Orlando to Miami and on landing the pilot really slammed the mother on the runway, so much we bounced back up and slammed down again. After some yelps and OMG's, everyone settled down. One passenger said "He's gotta be a Navy pilot used to landing on carriers." I thought that hysterical.

[@X85283]

Navy "Aviator", but... Those guys are as good as it gets and while everyone makes mistakes it's not like someone who is able to land a Super Hornet on a pitching deck isn't going to be able to adjust to land virtually any type of aircraft properly and smoothly.

[@ohioexpax1592]

You do know it was said in fun? Lighten up.

[@jr13227]

Haha yup classic saying after a hard landing

[@sfmc98]

@@X85283 Well, you could have corrected the man had you been there. Given him a full lecture about it after that hard landing.

[@greggv8]

There's some documentary I saw about an aircraft carrier where they were doing nighttime training in bad weather. So many pilots were doing go arounds and missing all the cables. They had to keep launching tankers, and the tanker pilots were having problems landing. The carrier captain was wondering if they were going to run out of fuel before they got everyone back.

[@FireAlarmHowTooGuy]

Despite the troubled history the DC-10 had, it was a very good workhorse. I am flown on the DC-10 three times.

[@andyowens5494]

Thats some serious structural damage. The strength and engineering that allowed it to go around and make a safe landing is amazing.

[@747heavyboeing3]

DC 10 was well built.

[@elevliamyt]

Ryanair: We have the hardest landings! That DC-10: Hold my beer

[@weaselsworld]

Something that would be embarrassing for any pilot to have broadcast over the airwaves: "Looks like you blew a tire during ONE of those touchdowns..." No pilot wants it known they had a running tally of touchdowns on a single landing. :D

[@betteron2wheels232]

I was on this flight. We were coming back from Iraq. Bad thing is, after this crash landing at BWI, I had to get on a plane the next day heading to Japan. To this day I have massive anxieties when I fly and we are landing. The plane never flew again.

[@norrisburkes4257]

Todd Light me too,

[@sarahalbers5555]

Totally understandable that that outstanding example of airmanship made you an anxious flyer.

[@josephkrol8330]

@David Bryant You were not on that airplane. Given how hard the jet landed, it certainly must have felt pretty close to a crash landing...jarring indeed. I also fail to understand your logic in telling a man who had the guts to go to Iraq and serve there girly. My bet is that you haven't experienced either event. Think about that before you make an ignorant comment like that.

[@josephkrol8330]

@David Bryant Thank you for your service. This nation owes you a huge debt. My point, however, still stands. You were not in that airplane, so who are you to comment on what it was like to be in there at the time? The passengers were told to brace, and the landing was so hard it totaled the plane. They don't tell you to brace for impact unless it's serious. When that happens, you start wondering if this is the end. The things you may have done in the military certainly can't be called girly, but hiding behind a screen while you insult someone for being frightened from a traumatic event can be called girly. Show some decency

[@imbalos]

@David Bryant Look dude, you are clearly the manliest here, the real youtube comment section warrior.

[@susansinclair4914]

I worked as a Load Controller at London Gatwick in the 70's and 80's and our office in Concorde House afforded an amazing view over the single runway. Back then we handled loads of airlines but whenever we compiled Load Sheets for World Airways or Ward Air we'd always get advised by the pilots that they were putting a further 10,000 pounds of fuel onboard. Knowing they were then over weight but having no say in the matter we'd run up to the office to watch the aircraft take off. Gatwick had a decently long runway but I swear there were times the whole office collectively prayed and shit themselves at the same time as we watched the planes take up every inch of the runway before very, very slowly dragging themselves into the air. I still don't know how they got away with it!

[@mikaelbiilmann6826]

I worked in an airport, where a Bell 212 was going to move a lot of equipment and fuel for some scientists working in the field. The pilot told the ground crew to put in as much as possible in the helicopter. When I asked the pilot if he wanted me to make a loadsheet, he said no. He knew he would be overweight. Ascended very slowly.

[@dantc2403]

They probably got away with it because no one died from it.

[@turbofanlover]

Still love the DC-10. One of the most beautiful aircraft ever made. I really miss flying on them.

[@jcheck6]

I don't miss flying ON them but miss flying them. Easy aircraft to land and my first landing was with passengers. Shows you how good the simulators are. Never flew one but understand the MD-11 was a little different in landing due to the much smaller horizontal stab.

[@mackydog99]

I've always loved the DC10. Flew on a couple, worked on dozens. Good aircraft.

[@yemx4683]

I am a ramp agent for Southwest Airlines and I happen to be on gate A7 waiting for my inbound flight this day. I saw the whole thing with my own eyes and was speechless. This was 2 weeks before I left for Recruit training in the Marine Corps. To this day I still remember the sounds of the plane hitting the ground. Glad it was not worse then it was. Oh and as I watched I kept thinking about the FedEx plane that not long before did the exact same thing and thought oh hell we gonna have a major accident.

[@Matterhorny]

do you have the ability to see with other peoples eyes?

[@yemx4683]

@@Matterhorny what?

[@johnmarksmith1120]

U.S. Marines PLT2050 Don’t mind him, he gets his energy from being contrary to anything and everything, kind of like the flat earth people.

[@yemx4683]

@@johnmarksmith1120 good to go thanks!

[@DaveyCrockett001]

Ya, Fed ex rolled up in a bad ball.

[@AviationNut]

It's mind blowing how strong the front landing gear is, to withstand such extremely hard landing and not collapse.

[@WhatYouHaventSeen]

Don't forget this video (from the same airport, even): kzbin.info/www/bejne/qF6Yl6GflrSDask

[@jimeditorial]

Agree. Tough old bird. Wonder what they could salvage...

[@12220627]

@@WhatYouHaventSeen 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@richardcranium3417]

@@jimeditorial seat backs and tray tables

[@fredfungalspore]

Air traffic controllers earn every cent a very stressful occupation Well done to all men and women who look after our skies around the world.

[@JustJohn505]

My left ear enjoyed this very much

[@ysfsim]

lol, right?

[@ShuRugal]

@@ysfsim no, left.

[@WhatYouHaventSeen]

Haha! Okay, so there is a huge backstory to this that you don't know. If you're up for some reading, I'll bring you in the loop. This ATC recording (like most of the ATC recordings I use) is clearly not from LiveATC. I'm too much of a purist for that. As noted by a couple of other commenters, the recording obviously contains internal communications among controllers that were never broadcast over the air. (Which I guess makes "What You Haven't Seen" also "What You Haven't Heard" ---- and man, that's a stupid joke. I must be tired.) Anyway, the audio files I use are official FAA "re-recordings" which are one piece of the extensive audio and written accident package that all air traffic control facilities are required to assemble any time they are involved in an event that meets the criteria set out in FAA Job Order ("JO") 8020.16A. The preparation and presentation of an accident package is - like everything ATC - a methodical and detail-driven process. The JO specifies minutiae like the file format to be used and the bitrate of the audio, even dictating the exact phrase to be spoken at the beginning of all official re-recordings. (The requirements make sense when you consider that these things are typically used as evidence in court.) Buried among those requirements is one that I hate. I'll let you hear it yourself. Visit tiny.cc/watchyourvolume and hear what happens starting around 54 seconds in, after that phrase I reference above gets spoken. Did you hear that? (Of course you did.) Which ear is it in? Are you seeing the connection to this video? When I incorporate official re-recordings into videos there are a usually a handful of files just like that one that I am working with. (Again, that's because each involved facility creates their own re-recording.) But you've never heard that ear-raping sound before. [You're welcome.] That's because - assuming I am not merging the files - for each re-recording I use Audacity to split the stereo track, sometimes truncate silence in the left audio channel, and then overwrite all of the data in the right channel with the data from the left channel. I then export the track in stereo and the result is usable as audio in a video - with you none the wiser about everything that happened to get the audio ready. So what's with the audio in this video? Well, I simply missed a step. And the interesting part is that I didn't catch it because - atypically - I only used a single speaker to listen to the audio. The End. I'm glad your left ear enjoyed! *Thank you for your comment, by the way. It spurred me to finally learn what that sound is for. If you want to know, you can piggyback on my investigation at tiny.cc/heaskedreddit.

[@mudchair16]

You're a quality youtuber. Well done.

[@LostPilotage]

@@WhatYouHaventSeen Can you track down the full audio for Kalitta 66, and post that one. I listened to it once in class, it was interesting as heck hearing the full sequence of events. The only one available on KZbin is the edited version, used during the ATC awards ceremony.

[@kingsofserbiangameplay1623]

Ryanair should watch and learn from real dudes

[@MJLeger-yj1ww]

I've never flown Ryanair, but I sure have read a lot of negative comments about them! Makes me really wonder. Those aircraft out of Ireland can be subject to weather and subsequent rust, making the controls hard to handle. I flew in and out of Dublin a couple of times, many years ago, but I took an American airline. I don't think Ryanair even existed at that time, I think they began in about 1984, but I would be wary of them now, due to what I've heard.

[@kingsofserbiangameplay1623]

@@MJLeger-yj1ww, it's a aviation meme

[@EinkOLED]

@@MJLeger-yj1ww Ryanair is as safe as any other airline in europe, and they're landings are fairly typical of a 737-800 on short - normal length runways.

[@Daschickenify]

@@MJLeger-yj1ww I saw someone describe their landing procedure as picking a point on the runway where they MUST be touched down by, so they sacrifice comfort by making sure they touch down by then. It apparently leads to less go arounds, which are expensive as far as fuel and delays.

[@MJLeger-yj1ww]

@@kingsofserbiangameplay1623 Nah!

[@ozzie-sk9dh]

I would need a week to wind down after this. So great how everyone works together closely to get the job done. Controller under great pressure to make good decisions instantly but Everyone pulling for each other. Great to hear it.

[@Trainboy1EJR]

Ryan Airways - Curbstomps the runway. World Airways - Bodyslams the runway. XD

[@sgtgrash]

"When I slap the dashboard I want you to perform an emergency drop."

[@artgoat]

Wow, just a fraction more impact and the nose would have broke completely off!

[@THR33SIXX3MPYR]

I used to work at KBWI up until about a month ago. That airplane remains intact there up until this day. It can be seen from the airport ring road, and pretty much anywhere on the field itself. Never got over there close to it but I hear it is used by first responders to train different scenarios.

[@jeannieloveandlight3105]

OneTallOrder It was taken to a military base for training after our plane crash. You’re probably thinking of other ones our company had crashes on. Yeah it’s been more than one. The coverups I see are still in full affect.

[@gordslater]

I love how TWR says "yeah looks like the front nosewheel blew on ONE of the landings" Always time for a little humor under stress :)

[@CV-dl3hj]

If they wanted to land like that they should let me fly

[@jamesp13152]

I could be your co-pilot...

[@CV-dl3hj]

@@jamesp13152 anything we can walk away from sounds like a good Landing to me

[@dncarac]

I was going to comment that it looks like one of my better landings.

[@DaveyCrockett001]

ROTFL!!!

[@mackdaddy8739]

GO NAVY!

[@Tahoe2002Md]

I live in MD and always pay attention to anything aviation news related and do not remember this incident. WOW. Amazing amount of damage, incredible it was not lost just on that bad landing. Also quite interesting to hear how just one messed up landing throws the rest of the schedule into chaos.

[@jg-7780]

This DC-10 never left BWI, they just parked it in a corner, and it just sits there. I've heard BWI emergency services sometimes use it for training/exercises

[@Springbok295]

A bit similar in a way to Air Canada Flight 621 which crashed at Toronto in 1970. After a hard landing which ripped off #4 engine, the DC-8-63 performed a go-around whereby a fire broke out from the torn engine pylon. While making a circuit back to the airport the fire worsened resulting in an explosion destroying over half the right wing. The DC-8 plunged into an empty field killing all on board.

[@vandijk1698]

Ryanair: "Hold my beer"

[@howardrickert2558]

Wow. I just said to my crew on my last sequence “ anyone can do this when your not tired “. After flying all night and the body clock is bent, routine becomes a three man job sometimes. It’s the 8-10 hour legs that hurt the most for me. So next time you let your kids run down the hall at your “ vacation “ hotel, think that some pilot might be trying to sleep. Aviation eats it’s young. Terrible!

[@darioinfini]

You would if you were on the plane he was trying to land safely.

[@howardrickert2558]

adog8me You sound like an excellent parent.

[@hpygolkyone]

The little bastards use the hallways as their personal playground. I get up and calmly stop the kids and tell them to go run around in the parking lot. I make sure to give them some candy. Strangers ALWAYS have the best candy!

[@howardrickert2558]

hpygolkyone Hahahahahaha. To funny.

[@buckbuchanan5849]

adog8me Well, that’s a sucky comment. So nice of you.

[@KlLLERROBOT99]

Must of been one hell of an impact to bounce twice down the runway, looked like one of my attempts to land a Luxor at Trevor’s Airport in GTA5.

[@gocoastgaurd721]

This is a cool recording having the ATC to ATC comms too!

[@richardg1917]

0:54 top of screen, tail strikes runway.

[@jonathanbaird8109]

It looked to me like he smoked the mains.

[@johnmoss8230]

@@jonathanbaird8109 he did for sure

[@Chorizo727]

Nope

[@fredgarvinMP]

Thank you

[@dasspr]

When flight simulator/x plane freezes right before landing! Then comes back 5 seconds later

[@legitscoper3259]

Ryanair: Say no more word. _You're hired!_

[@restojon1]

Legend has it, Michael O'Leary is still trying to find out the true identity of this pilot

[@johnhartley5261]

At 7:59 mid way down the page, they forgot to redact Cynthia Richardson.

[@md65000]

Ignorant people slam the DC-10 but that one took some serious abuse and still held together and got its passengers home!

[@davidca96]

Other than the cargo door design issue, the DC-10 was one of the best ever made. It was super fast, comfortable to ride in.

[@Juice-tr8xi]

@Scott Smith It is no biggy. They fixed the issue long ago. All DC10s airworthy now have the fix

[@hotlunch4415]

John W Not just the poorly designed cargo door, causing the poorly designed cabin floor to collapse and sever critical systems, but also the hydraulic system which offered no real redundancy, and was modified after the Sioux City crash. Otherwise, fairly solid.

[@dhardy6654]

Something was strange about the dc-10..ive had it explained that you just have to set it...or hold it before the flare. Something to do with the mercury in the control columns and if you start moving pitch around everything goes haywire.

[@jr13227]

Scott Smith scattered cargo and tanker use around the world. FedEx uses the Md-10, which is the airframe of a Dc-10 with the cockpit modified to be the same as the md-11 so their pilots don’t need to be certified on two planes as well as eliminating need for a three person crew.

[@ryanm.191]

I’ve fallen out trees and had softer landings

[@RINGMASTER75]

Lmfao

[@bertraminc9412]

OMG! I’m totally using this on my next flight!

[@Rocketman88002]

@Ryan M, and probably with less damage. Lol The damage on this airplane would be the equivalent of breaking every bone in your body, rupturing your spleen, busting a kidney, receiving a brutal liver punch and suffering irregular heartbeat!

[@yoyoyoyoshua]

Yeah but you dont weight 200,000 pounds. Well I hope you don't.

[@ryanm.191]

ThePanda maybe I do

[@oliverjenkins6054]

"A good landing is one you walk away from, a great landing is one where you get to use the plane again." ;D

[@thomthumbe]

The day before my FAA flight exam, I was touching down so soft....you couldn't tell when the wheels started to roll. Boy, was I ever ready!!! Next day with the FAA examiner in the right seat....He requested a soft field landing..and what he got must have been similar to this DC-10 example! Fortunately nothing was damaged, except for my pride!

[@JH-lz4ky]

Thom Thumbe did he pass you?

[@thomthumbe]

J H yes, I’ve been flying ever since. The remainder of my check-ride went very well!

[@seoceancrosser]

The plane is still in BWI almost 10 years later. Great find!

[@davidkierzkowski]

Plz explain

[@AviationNut]

@@davidkierzkowski He is saying the plane is still parked at BWI airport, since this accident, which happened in 2009 so the plane has been parked at BWI airport for almost 10 years.

[@davidkierzkowski]

Aviation Nut yeah, but why?

[@seoceancrosser]

Thanks nut! You beat me to it. As of 2 months ago, this aircraft is still there. Saw it with my own eyes. Figured they would have hauled it off by now.

[@cup_and_cone]

@@davidkierzkowski - could never get ferry permit and needs broke down on-site.

[@carstorm85]

How do you get internal calls? Amazing vid as always!

[@trevcessna1723]

Good video... its amazing how those controllers can keep track of everyone. Looks like it was way too nose high prior to touchdown, perhaps a stall/drop onto the runway and bounce/porpus resulted. Perhaps wind shear? or the usual pilot error? "Grasshopper, you must focus your energy"

[@MJLeger-yj1ww]

Interesting comms, and the blog above is also more helpful than the video for knowing what took place in this incident.

[@PhantomHT1320]

remember back in the day when 240p was "HD"

[@brittneypaul2089]

240p was never "HD" I used to wonder what the appeal of KZbin was with that resolution. VHS is better.

[@redguard2529]

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[@friedchicken1]

yeah, it stood for Horrible Definition

[@lm7978]

This explains the stripped out DC-10 I see on the side of the runaway every time I fly out of BWI

[@jeannieloveandlight3105]

Lou Mohan That’s not the plane we crashed in you’re talking about.

[@JH-lz4ky]

Jeannie Love and Light were you one of the crew?

[@tjfSIM]

Ouch! I don't think this frame will be flying again.

[@upsidedowndog1256]

That had to make one hell of a bang!

[@MyCatInABox]

My God- Would u LOOK at that handwriting at 8:06: Simply beautiful! EDIT: On second thought, meh...

[@yamahale]

grammar/spelling, not so much

[@johnferguson7235]

They came damn close to snapping the nose off of the aircraft. That would have been a real mess with the aircraft likely jack-knifing and sliding sideways down the runway and possibly rolling. They dodged that bullet.

[@Dana_Danarosana]

UA-232 (DC-10 crash at Sioux City) likely would've remained upright had the nose not snapped off. Of course, there wouldn't have been mass-casualties and hydraulic fuses wouldn't have been added to ALL commercial aircraft preventing total hydraulic loss from happening again. It never ceases to amaze me how the only way we seem to improve safety is after a bunch of people die... The mass bridge inspections started AFTER the I-35W bridge collapse in Mpls. The enforcement of seismic building codes got much stronger AFTER the Northridge Earthquake. They fixed the levies and built a massive seagate AFTER New Orleans was drowned under 12+ feet of water. I could go on but I think I've already beat my point to death...

[@darioinfini]

In a world of limited resources you can only patch the leaks, not the whole wall. It's the nature of how developments work. You make improvements to things that need improvement, not to things that haven't demonstrated weakness.

[@Dana_Danarosana]

In so many of these cases, potential weaknesses were known but the so called "limited resources" limit what "can" be done... which is total bullshit!! These "limited resources" are limited by some really messed up priorities. One huge example is the collaboration between Perelman Med School at PENN and Geffen Med School at UCLA jointly working on landmark clinical use of HIV virus to destroy cancer cells! This amazingly brilliant program has the potential to save millions of lives... absolute GENIUS stuff!! Study progress has continued to be hampered by lack of funding... but we don't seem to have any problem with the MN Vikings $84 million contract for Kirk Cousins to play silly footsie ball!! OR the new federal tax bill has taken away the right for teachers forced to pay for classroom supplies out of their own pockets (because school districts are broke) from deducting said expenses from their taxes... but gave the Walton (WalMart) family a $50+ billion tax break!! "Limited resources"? Nope!! F**ked up priorities!!

[@darioinfini]

@Dana Danarosana I think you misunderstood what I meant. They already put insane amounts of safety design into these things. The fact that these things fly regularly with an outlandishly good safety record is testament to the exhaustive efforts they put into thinking about different modes of failure. There's what needs to work, then there's the backup in case that fails, then there's the backup in case THAT fails. No plane crashes because ONE thing went wrong. Several things have to have gone for a catastrophic failure to occur. When you say "the only way we seem to improve safety is after a bunch of people die", imagine rolling out the TSA with their billions of dollars worth of scanning equipment, airport jackboot fondlings, and lengthy security details BEFORE 9/11. You think we would have agreed to spend that money and subject ourselves to the invasion of privacy BEFORE a threat was made evident? No, we did that after it became obvious that more needed to be done. You can spend infinite money and time making the perfectly safe airplane that no one will ever fly because it would be impossible to afford a ticket on it. Or you can make it as safe as it needs to be from what we know about what's likely to fail and previous failures that did happen. That's how engineering works.

[@DaveyCrockett001]

Ya for sure, it was almost a deviated septum event.

[@sblack48]

Putting forward stick in after a bounce is a no-no in any airplane. You either hold aft stick and ride it out or go around. Cessna sold a lot of 150 nose gears and engine mounts to flight schools because of that mistake and it works on big airplanes too.

[@skippmclovan1135]

On an another occasion while in the navigator's seat in a Bristol Freighter (mid-80's) something similar happened on landing back at Rongatai (Wellington) from a flight out of RNZAF Woodbourne, Blenheim with a full cargo load of three vehicles on board.. the aircraft hit so hard both wings visibly deflected to an extraordinary degree ..the aircraft then porpoised down the runway about half a dozen times each time submitting the wings to this extreme deflection ..from my raised vantage point behind the pilots I could see how the wings were responding each time. The tips were deflecting downwards about 4 feet at each hard contact.. for giant stubby looking rigid structures they were totally flexible and seemed to absorb the distortion with no apparent issue, however what the spar caps and attachment points looked like afterwards would have been interesting to note I would have thought..

[@miscbits6399]

I was told a story by an ex ATC guy of a Bristol taking off from Rongotai in the 80s that had the wings "ripple" in a very strong crosswind gust (from the tower point of view), followed by an emergency call and very ginger flying around Mirimar/careful landing - to find that most of the rivets along the leading edge had popped. They were amazing birds able to take an incredible amount of abuse.

[@nigel900]

Turns out that the pilot and co-pilot both jumped from their seats simultaneously, with a severe case of explosive diarrhea. Upon doing so, they struck their heads together knocking each man unconscious. With no qualified pilot at the controls, Dr. Steve Brule offered his assistance..... the rest is history.

[@thatjokerperson7062]

"Lightly used only flew once" $15,000,000

[@skippmclovan1135]

I was a passenger in a vintage RNZAF DC3 which got "SLAMMED" down "HARD" on the runway at Ardmore Aerodrome on a return flight from Whitianga (NZ) ..the aircraft bounced back up into the air about 30 feet I would estimate ..then after 200 yards or so it came back down a little less hard but still very heavily.. I really expected the undercarriage to collapse on the first contact given the age of the aircraft and it's overall rough worn-out looking condition.. however it surprised me that it didn't! ..a really tough old thing..but it can't have been good for it. Later, the captain's wife (on the flight as cabin crew) told me privately that she knew it was going to be a 'hard landing' because he came in too fast . . and this is a retired professional big jet captain with a lifetime of flying experience.. I guess sometimes it happens with the best of them

[@JimForeman]

WOW! He really hammered that one.

[@aflaz171]

Yes apparently both pilots retained their jobs with World Air but were ordered to pay for the damages. A court ordered them to repay $59 a month for the next thousand years.

[@dudeskidaddy]

Great controller.

[@robertsistrunk6631]

In the late 90's I worked as an aircraft refueler at KDSM. A UPS plane had an engine catch on fire after the pilot shut down. He was fired. Wonder if the same happened to this pilot.

[@jguo]

The ATC dude maintained his cool and did an amazing job.

[@Name-ps9fx]

1:24 A cargo truck can be seen dragging its lift on the ground.

[@Purplexity-ww8nb]

The pilots are now enrolled in the Burger King Executive Fry Station Training Program.

[@SpeakingMath]

what the hell

[@Forcednduckshn]

Outstanding job by the tower operator on this one.

[@theshmunguss1]

There’s actually a DC-10 at BWI that landed so hard, the front landing gear collapsed and the fuselage had structural damage. It’s still there for training. Would be interesting to see a video on that.

[@matt_b...]

Ok that's not gonna buff out.

[@canofanger]

Poor guys. The DC10's were prone to this bad porpoising habit when landed hard. Very good decision to go around.

[@russellsandidge4210]

I saw a documentary on these DC 10s. It was an upgraded larger version of the DC 9 with the third engine. when the engineers designed it they were trying to reduce drag for fuel efficiency. The DC-10s horizontal stabilizer and elevator was small for an airliner this size to minimize drag. It had to be landed at a higher landing speed because any slower the elevator would lose effectiveness and the nose would slam down. They had a few incidents with this aircraft because of that reason.

[@Dana_Danarosana]

DC-10's big sister the MD-11 had the bad porpoising tendency. I know a couple guys who flew the 10s and they both say they were "big puppy dogs" you can fly with one finger. The MD-11 was made to be larger and more efficient and had both horizontal and vertical stabilizers that were smaller than ideal because of this. That's why even "perfect" MD-11 landings have a tendency to bounce.

[@AviationDirection]

DC-10s were/are NOT prone to porpoising, but rather the MD-11. This was mostly caused by the auto-up trim input when in the flare and due to the smaller horizontal stab control surfaces (as mentioned by Dana).

[@jimeditorial]

I understand that the 11 was very CG sensitive....not ideal for a freighter.

[@w3vjp568]

Back sometime in the late 70’s/early 80’s I landed at BWI on a DC-10; after main gear touchdown the nose seemed to stay up for what seemed like a really long time; when the nose finally came down it was the hardest landing I’ve ever experienced in a passenger jet... and I wasn’t even near the nose of the plane. I wonder if this might have been the reason.

[@bobkaster1]

Reading through the F/A comments, one had "smiled and reassured pax" in the margin of their paper. Best way to survive an emergency - always keep your cool.

[@davidimhoff5571]

It looked like the airplane bounced. He's lucky he didn't crash. That's bloody scary. Kudos to these flight controllers.

[@Angelum_Band]

8:53 We see handwriting from a different era... Panam style.

[@clanger_6870]

It appears one of the nosewheels did blow on one of your touch downs :-)

[@SkipFlem]

I grabbed this from world air wiki page: May 6, 2009: a DC-10-30 with registration N139WA operating as flight 8535 from Leipzig, Germany for the Military Airlift Command experienced a firm landing at Baltimore-Washington International Airport (BWI). As a result of the captain's response to the firm landing, the plane's nose wheel struck the runway hard two times. The aircraft blew one of its front tires and had to execute a go-around before landing successfully. Several passengers were injured, including the first officer, who suffered back trauma. The age of the aircraft (29 years 11 months at the time of the accident) and the extent of damage to the front landing gear and fuselage resulted in the aircraft being written-off as scrap.[20]

[@ariochiv]

Didn't realize they were still flying passenger DC-10's. That's an old (but still beautiful) bird.

[@johnwells1015]

I flew for World Airways for twenty five years, and remember when this happened.

[@ka3ax85]

Can you maybe share how the dc10 handles? I hear it's an unforgiving machine, md11 even less

[@johnwells1015]

Art 1 The 10 was an easy airplane to fly, especially when she was heavy. It’s the only jet I’ve ever flown, so I can’t compare it to any other heavy jet.

[@richschindler8731]

that wasn’t so bad. As they say, any landing you any walk away from is a good one. Weeeellll!!! Maybe not,.

[@robjohnson1138]

And any landing where you can use the aircraft again is a great one. So I guess he had a good landing.

[@rickwarren1616]

I've flown World in and out of BWI many times... DC10 got its valuable cargo back home

[@rnzoli]

Captain sums up the rejected landing immediately on the CVR: "I can't believe we did that." Should have gone around on the first bounce, instead of trying to attain landing attitude again by pushing the nose down. But if you are tired, it's like being drunk. Easy to miss or downplay the vital signs. It was still a good call to go around on the second bounce and to declare the emergency.

[@johncampbell3356]

Take that plane to the dumpster on the way to your car to look for a new job.

[@captaintom8020]

How do you screw up so bad but not crash the aircraft...

[@angelzipp]

Well... I guess you can call it a crash. At least, judging by the extent of damages. :)

[@mattwilliams3456]

By having a good airframe.

[@BLACKMONGOOSE13]

It was mechanical malfunction of the spoilers not a "screw up" as you imply.' But nice try.

[@captaintom8020]

Read the report before you go posting stuff. They landed firmly, bounced and throttled up a little bit causing the spoilers to go down, and then landed again except with a nose wheel first landing. This is typically not good for an aircraft, especially something like a DC-10. This is what caused the damage and what happened next could have been a lot worse. You tried proving me wrong while being a dick, but that's okay. You tried. I forgive you.

[@fhuber7507]

Basically says the aircraft was very well built and despite the pilot's best efforts to kill everyone, it held together.

[@sledgenwedge]

This ATC knows his shit in his on top of the situation, unflappable. Thank God there's still people who care enough to stay on the ball especially in the airline industry

[@amcdonal86VT]

Interesting how when an incident happens like this with intersecting runways they have to check the intersection to open up any of the runways. I think they should've diverted the aircraft to Dulles or somewhere else because if there was too much debris to clear, they would've had to divert anyway, or risk further danger landing on a contaminated runway

[@Windycityduelingpianos]

Ryanair just ordered 100 DC-10’s.

[@divox9pqr]

I flew on a World Airways DC-10 to Europe and feel extremely lucky to have made it over and back. The plane was in a decrepit condition. Several restrooms were inoperative. Many seats were broken., and plane's engines made a loud sputtering and popping sound upon spool up to take off. It doesn't surprise me that this accident occurred due to a combination of inadequate training, poor scheduling, and mechanical failure. These are all points that have spelled doom in the past. STAY THE HELL OFF WORLD AIR WAYS.

[@mikepazzree1340]

Rodney Morgan Brown roger that. Every single time I flew on Active Duty was “ interesting “. Lowest bidder ...

[@Quagmire71006]

We flew on a world airways flight from Atlanta to Frankfurt AM in Germany on a MAC flight. Orginal plane was pushed into hangar for maintenance. World airways plane appeared at the gate. The plane was absolute crap. Worst flight of my life. It was also a DC-10

[@flybyairplane3528]

Rodney Morgan Brown was it world, or Arrow, with a DC8 with returning servicemen out of Gander Nf, Ca crashed on takeoff no survivors.ln about 1984 or 1985 just after thanksgiving.

[@Vincent_Sullivan]

It was Arrow...

[@Oldbmwr100rs]

Hey, people have peanut allergies!

[@vincentstruckstrainsplanes34]

I went to BWI for a Birthday trip, that plane is still there to this day! the engines are removed however... poor girl....

[@JoeyLovesTrains]

It landed so hard it blew the suspension fluid.. damn

[@douglasrodrigues332]

Did he forget to put the tail hook down? Oh, that wasn't an aircraft carrier?

[@ShuRugal]

Going bolter with a DC10...

[@mikepazzree1340]

Brilliant

[@DaveyCrockett001]

No carrier, seemed like a carrier landing only 10 times worse.

[@pipercolt1963]

And why did he even bother taking off again he put everybody in jeopardy By doing so, make it a full stop for Christ sakes!

[@Mrfishlou]

@@pipercolt1963 Remember, the nose gear impacts were getting progressively harder: 1.6 g, 2.8 g, 3.2 g, then next one would likely have snapped off the nose. Arresting the oscillations by applying power and climbing away very likely saved lives - possibly all of them.

[@mike94560]

The whole plane is now a 'parts plane'. It would be more cost effective to salvage working bits and sell them off rather than attempt to fix it.

[@bgp6656]

It's actually being used as a fire and rescue training site. It hasn't left the ground since this incident.

[@Newberntrains]

Oh wow for years I've seen it at bwi and wondered the story behind the hard landing

[@heylel1841]

I can listen to trafic control radio for whole day . Even though I don't know what they talking about.

[@dixienormous3262]

The pilot subsequently was fired and but was hired the next day by Ryan Air.

[@snoobeagle]

Wow.. any details about the pilots' careers after this?

[@AM-ob3nj]

Someone's asking a real question here ...

[@LostPilotage]

I am told the Captain never flew again, by a colleague, a former World Airways employee. Obviously, hearsay.

[@AM-ob3nj]

@@LostPilotage expected this ... thnx for replying btw 👍

[@tysoncott7402]

yeah he is flying loads of rubber dogshit out of hong kong now

[@mysteryguest9555]

Last I heard, he is stuck behind a register all day asking people "Would you like to Biggie Size that for .60?"

[@jacoblev5723]

It’s still at BWI. I see it on the far part of the runway when the plane I’m on taxis out. It’s a pretty cool sight

[@asikbanget6359]

Nice video, the white truck definitely shows you exactly what happened