Riese & Müller Updates with Heiko Müller at Eurobike

[@Dark_Vader888]

These are the most beautiful bikes I’ve ever seen. Chris from Propel and Mr. Muller are truly genuine and humble people. Just wow!

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks so much for your comment! Heiko is a really cool guy. Sad I can’t visit with him and the team this year.

[@woolly5499]

At 78, my Supercharger gx has been a life changer. Just retired and what with Covid restrictions, my hour or hour and a half ride every good weather day has kept me outdoors,well exercised, and keeping my weight down. Thank you Chris at Propel, and Mr. Mueller.

[@woolly5499]

Misspelled Mr. Miller’s name, sorry.

[@woolly5499]

Misspelled Mr. Mueller’s name, sorry.

[@evanbrown2896]

You’re doing a really awesome job with these videos, Chris!

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks Evan! Much appreciated. I’m excited to have a great team and some awesome stories to share :)

[@Crotoua]

Thanks for all your great reviews, and the time you spend answering to your subscribers ! I'm sorry I live in Nice, ,France and can't buy a bike from you..

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks Renaud! It’s really my pleasure, I’m happy to be part of this growing community and I’m really happy to be connected to the R&M brand. There values are aligned with ours and it’s been great to work with them.

[@blackfish7163]

your genuine and low key demeanour really comes through, great video and you can tell you guys are good friends too! Great job!

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks Curt! I really appreciate your comment. Heiko is a great friend and an awesome human. I’m really grateful to know him :)

[@North_side_cargo]

Hi Chris, greetings from Ireland. Fantastic video as as always 👍, really enjoying the new stuff from R&M. I'm currently almost 8 weeks into my new load 75, 1000km passed and enjoying every second of these awesome machines. If only I could find a way of adding another R&M to the house 😉🚴

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks! I’m very excited about what they have coming out! The Load 75 is awesome! I needed to find a way to own one of everyone of my favorite bikes so I just opened a bike shop ;)

[@SUBcyclist]

This is a fantastic bike; mine will be here any day, and I am very eager to cover some significant distances on this fine machine. It will be my new SUB - sport Utility Bike! I ordered the high speed version, and decided to call him Maximilian Schnell (named for a famous actor, with a twist on the last name). Thanks for another very informative video, Chris; great work, as always. This truly helped me to make the decision to by this bike. Vielen Dank!

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks Chuck! Congrats on your new bike! I’m sure you’re going to love it! Keep us posted :)

[@TheLAinME]

Good job Chris again. You are connecting well with Heiko and your audience! Good Video Quality, too. No German magazin or shop gets that connection to RM.

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks! Heiko is a great guy and we’re both really crazy about bikes. I’ve known him for a bit and we have a lot of fun connecting with each other. Our relationship with R&M is really important and I don’t take it for granted. I’m happy to share with others my experience with R&M as it’s not always easy to see from the face of it. It’s a great brand led by passionate people and that’s not so common these days. They are a really great partner.

[@michaele.7003]

Heck yea , congrats on the channel. Loving the format keep it up!!!!!!

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks Miguel! Glad you like it. Many more to come! 😎

[@Austrianaut]

Cool, seeing you, having your own channel :) Reading your face, seems you feel good with that. Thank you for these R&M insights, maybe I‘ll replace my car on urban purposes. All the best!

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks! It’s been fun creating on my own for sure. I’m having fun with it. I still really enjoy working with Court, this will be a slightly different style and perspective. R&M makes some awesome bikes and I’m really excited to be able to share what I know about them. We’re very much into the idea of you replacing your car with one :)

[@Austrianaut]

Propel Electric Bikes Great content, story telling and presentation style, if I may say so.

[@Propelbikes]

Much appreciated. It’s a group effort. I have an awesome videographer I’m working with. She has been a great team mate on these projects. I’m excited for what’s to come!

[@minniesaab7255]

Definitely my favorite 🚲 ! I really hope that I can get one ..... (soon)

[@Propelbikes]

I hope so too! They are really awesome! :)

[@nandreetta]

Thanks for making these videos, Chris. Yours was some of the best Eurobike coverage this year. Did they say anything about Enviolo Automatic coming to the Load next year? Their technology page mentions it as a gear system they offer, but I’m not sure where they plan to use it. I know it was mentioned in your Urban Arrow and Tern videos, but I’d love to see it on the Load as well.

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks! I’m glad you liked the videos. The Automatic won’t be on the Load next year, we might see it in the future, but the new version is still pretty new and the first version left some things to be desired. They have made some huge improvements and I think we’ll start to see it more in the future.

[@nandreetta]

Propel Electric Bikes I didn’t realize there was a previous version. I really liked the Di2 shifting on the eBullitt I tried, but I found the ride a bit rough for rider and human cargo alike with all our potholes, and I have been looking more seriously at Riese and Müller for the suspension. The Tern HSD is also a contender for that reason. It’s great to be so spoiled for choice by amazing cargo bikes lately, but it also makes it harder to commit to one with the relatively high prices. Thanks again for making these videos to help consumers navigate the choices.

[@Propelbikes]

My pleasure! Let me know if I can help answer any questions. I’m planning to do a review of the HSD soon as well as some videos on suspension and drivetrain technology. Stay tuned

[@nandreetta]

Propel Electric Bikes Looking forward to it. After choosing between long tail and box bike and then the right size, the next big decision is usually drivetrain.

[@Propelbikes]

I think that’s a very methodical way of looking at it.

[@giobikefans]

Great channel! Thanks for your videos very good quality

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks for watching and for your comment ;)

[@martincollas]

Solch ein gutes Interview und weiterführende Informationen, hätte ich mir gerne von einem deutschen Händler/Magazin erwünscht. Super Job! I´ll buy My next R-M Bike with you, Chris :)

[@Propelbikes]

You’re really kind. I’m glad you enjoyed. I always enjoy spending time with my friends at R&M and I’m grateful to be able to share some of those experiences. I do wonder if there are more videos pending from Germany shops or magazines. There are usually many more German videos than English ones and I guess I’m just trying to give English speakers the same opportunity to learn about this awesome company and their bikes :) I can’t fulfill your wish of s German video at the moment, but please let me know if there are other topics or videos you would like to see.

[@r4z0r1]

@@Propelbikes Martin wrote that there are no such high quality videos on Riese Müller Bikes in german. I fully agree with him, yours are outstanding!

[@Propelbikes]

@@r4z0r1 Wow, I guess my investment in hiring a fulltime videographer is paying off. We still have a lot to learn, but we are committed to doing this well.

[@KKhhoorrnniittee]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't see any other CEO presenting his bikes at the expo (-; That already says a lot about him (and them).

[@Propelbikes]

I think you’re probably right. Heiko and the rest of the R&M leadership is still very hands on and it’s inspiring to see. I’m grateful to be able to work with them.

[@roygjringen4770]

Excellent review. I can't wait to get my own SuperDelite with Rolhoff and GX-Option. I am from Norway and here we have good off-road opportunities. The "Rallarvegen" is perfect for SuperDelite =)

[@Propelbikes]

I would love to ride a Superdelite GX in Norway. Hopefully I get the chance one day :)

[@roygjringen4770]

@@Propelbikes I can recommend you Rallarvegen based on Bergen and then take the train to Finse or Haugastøl for a little longer trip and cycle to Flåm. The tour is about 49mi 1249.064yd long and you can stay overnight along the tour. My dream is to experience the United States and especially Rout 66 Here is video from Rallarvegen; kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoanmWmefLJ_n5Y

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks! I’ll let you know if I make it out that way. That sounds like a great time. You should definitely come out and do Route 66. You can fly with your bike and I can loan you some batteries.

[@roygjringen4770]

@@Propelbikes Good to hear Chris. There are many Americans traveling on holiday to Norway and there are also many cruise ships visiting Flåm where you can ride the "Rallarvegen". It would have been nice to cycle Route 66, but a little far I think =) I have a parrot as a pet and therefore it is a bit difficult to travel from it on long vacations so for the time being a trip to the USA must be with the dream =)

[@Propelbikes]

@@roygjringen4770 I totally get it. It's good to keep the dream alive for sure ;) let us know if we can help somehow. I think we need some more Norwegain influence around these parts. You guys seem to be doing pretty well on the bike front these days.

[@injuredtabletennisplayer1474]

Would you do a video what happens when one goes to your store for a fitting and order?

[@welderoner4163]

Channel is blowing up. Awesome

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks! It’s pretty exciting :) Hope you’re doing well. It’s getting cold out there soon. Lmk when you’re ready for a visit.

[@welderoner4163]

Propel Electric Bikes It is! You’re the best! Thanks man

[@Vardraq]

Does anyone know if one can get the SuperDelight Mountain also in this sick bright mat red-orange? Absolutely digging that color and the bike! Would also be fantastic to get the wheel hubs and the belt drive in that color. 😅

[@Propelbikes]

This would need to be custom at the shop level. Where there is a will there is a way though.

[@Vardraq]

@@Propelbikes thanks for the answer. Will try to find a experience store near me and check with those folks. My will is strong, and I want this bike (just has to wait till next year, as all my money goes into house building right now 😁)

[@Propelbikes]

Sounds like a plan! If you were in the states I would totally hook you up. I love these sorts of projects. Stay safe and positive :)

[@Vardraq]

​@@Propelbikes yeah. I like your content so far and would probably approach you if I would indeed live in the states; very sympathetic. But, my new home will be in Brandenburg (GE), near Berlin; I think I might go over to the folks from e-motion there.

[@khan1973]

Hey Chris, great video bro, which cam are you using?

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks! This was shot on the Canon EOS R with a 35mm 1.8 RF lens and a Robin SC gimbal.

[@khan1973]

@@Propelbikes Thanks, appreciate it, great work (Y)

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks! :)

[@nasromilano8109]

Will the back rack support a person?

[@TheRockeyAllen]

What's the difference between superdelite and supercharger2?

[@Propelbikes]

Mainly that the Superdelite has rear suspension where the Supercharger2 does not.

[@TheRockeyAllen]

@@Propelbikes does the superdelite cost higher than supercharger2?

[@Propelbikes]

There is about a $1000 up charge for rear suspension. There are also upgrade options for the suspension on the Superdelite. You can see more details on the bikes below: propelbikes.com/product/riese-muller-superdelite/ propelbikes.com/product/riese-muller-supercharger2/

[@antonoat]

cycling is moving rapidly toward a very exciting future! Electric assist bikes open up endless possibilities for alternative transport, clean, safe and eco friendly, what's not to love?

[@Bob-ew8gn]

Chris wonderful video. Would you do a video explaining 36, 48, and 52 volt batteries and systems. There are so many videos about how much stronger 48 volt systems are. But a lot of the ebikes use the bosch system with the cx motor. This seems to me to be one of the strongest motors on the market. Riese and muller use these motors exclusively. Tern as well as many other great brands use these systems. I for one am sticking with bosch for my needs. But could you weigh in on this conversation. Does the voltage alone determine power or are there other things at play here. Thankyou .............Bob

[@Propelbikes]

Bob, I appreciate it and you. That’s a great idea and I will be sure to add it to my list. Perhaps I can have one of the Bosch engineers explain their philosophy. I know what my thoughts are on this topic, but it would be great to have their technical explanation.

[@iloveburritos8802]

I wish i could afford reise and muller, awesome lineup!

[@Propelbikes]

I think you’re not alone here. You can always keep an eye out for a used or demo model. Many shops also offer financing.

[@mwj5368]

@@Propelbikes Hi! I somehow saw R&M early on in my most recent (past year) serious look at electric bikes and this is so great I don't even feel like looking at any other electric bikes! I'm glad they design from the standpoint of quality before all. I'm a Senior on Social Security... but the best and reliability is very important to me. What's the per month payment range on like the Super Delight?

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks! I think you’re not alone here. Depending on which Superdelite you opt for you’re looking at about $800-$1000 per month if you finance over one year. Some people have had some good luck with financing through credit unions for longer periods which could bring that monthly payment down pretty far.

[@macmovieman1]

Such a beautiful color and its stands out so much more by hiding the wiring.

[@Propelbikes]

I agree! They do an excellent job with the colors on their bikes. They actually have someone internally mainly focusing on color. If you ask me it shows.

[@r4z0r1]

I like their approach to design first and see the costs second. But to be honest they (as well as the other major brands) are just getting ever more expensive. Low end disruption is happening, but we are not seeing it in Europe because of the chinese tariffs...

[@Propelbikes]

I think the low end bikes are still mostly Chinese made, but there’s not much that compares on the premium end. The design and engineering isn’t so easy to just copy although some try. These bikes are breaking the boundaries of what an ebike should be and a higher price comes with that. I’m sure they could find ways to make the bikes cheaper, but I value the fact that their more focused on performance and the actual experience of the user. There are plenty of brands that are focusing on making a cheaper bike.

[@shanehertzog5812]

I like this bike.

[@Propelbikes]

It doesn’t get better than this!

[@YannR34]

The welding is much much much better on this one (The superdelite). Is that how the production is or is it exceptionna, Because I have seen other not that well done , maybe pre-series... That is weird, the only better done was the green one, so maybe it has been done by a better worker.

[@Propelbikes]

I’ve found the ones in our shop are pretty smooth. You might be right

[@henrywoo7912]

Any info on the new Nevo Vario GH?

[@Propelbikes]

The Nevo Vario GH remains largely unchanged for 2020 although GH is now available on all non-control technology bikes. You can also get the Smartphone Hub on the non-eshift Nevo which is cool.

[@henrywoo7912]

Propel Electric Bikes thanks Chris!

[@fabianbuserell8609]

@@henrywoo7912 there will likely be a different handlebar in the upcoming months for the nevo vario. They want to hide the cables inside the handlebar just like in the more exclusive bikes. but are still working on how to integrate it in the manufacturing process, for the nevo.

[@henrywoo7912]

Mike Tomlin thank you, think i can buy it now as nothing revolutionary coming up

[@fabianbuserell8609]

@@henrywoo7912 ye I'd say so too. Major updates for the nevo prob for the 2021 models, since the nevo2 isn't old enough. Nevo1 will be done withing the next year aswell.

[@devossander]

Why is it still not possible to have an abs system on rohloff hub. Because with the other hubs is this possible? Had really hoped that this was going to be 2020. The choice to drive with comfort and all safety from abs system and control system.

[@Propelbikes]

ABS will be available outside of the US, but it’s my suspicion that we will see the next generation of ABS in the states whenever that comes. Bosch needs to take a very conservative stance when it comes to safety and liability in the US since we’re such a litigious society. This is a common stance with most companies from Germany in my experience.

[@r4z0r1]

I read that it's because there is no compatible combination of break disc (for additional speed sensor) and rohloff hub.

[@devossander]

@@r4z0r1 Okay thanks but if I understand correctly at rohloff is electric hub and because of this there is something extra on the bike. Where normally speed meter had to come from the abs. And with the nuvinci there is that place for abs. So the choice that I have is abs and nuvinci hub or just the rohloff hub ..... 🤔

[@Propelbikes]

Sorry I think I misread the question, ABS isn’t compatible with any Eshift bikes and I believe this is due to concerns about a communication collision on the CAN bus. When Eshift was initially introduced there was an issue with other communication on the system and this has since been resolved, but I think it’s risky if that potential exists with the braking system. Some companies are starting to experiment with a third party ABS on Bosch bikes, maybe we will see that happen with Eshift. Magura and Bosch are really close partners though so I don’t see a direct integration there anytime soon although I could see Bosch buying one of those companies if their tech is good.

[@donbrassco301]

What About Folding🤔

[@Propelbikes]

They have the Tinker, but it’s not a fully foldable bike. They have a non electric folder called the Birdy, but no word on when we might see this as electric. Many people are waiting though.

[@borisalfaroponce117]

super

[@Propelbikes]

Thanks Boris

[@macmcmullin8674]

Bob's burgers extended family lol 😂 with love

[@racrx7]

Land Rover Defender? Don't insult his bikes like that haha! More like a Porsche Cayenne!

[@Propelbikes]

Lol! Good point!