Ford Ranger Raptor 2.0 BiTurbo P2002:00-EC Particulate Filter Efficiency Under Threshold Diagnostic

[@chrishill5166]

Your customers are going to the wrong person Jimmy. Particle Matter Sensors are the domain of Capt James T Kirk of the star ship Enterprise. Seriously though it take an honest person to say they cannot fix the problem whereas the main dealers will keep robbing you. Great videos.

[@tas.es9]

You were looking at wrong data pid. That was low side EGR diff. pressure. DPF should be "DPF inlet pressure", nothing to do with EGR. particulate matter sensor by itself does not trigger P2002. P2002 is triggered by too low or high(rarely) pressure. Open loop percentage was highly greater than closed loop, that could mean that the inlet pressure sensor hose has a crack or is fully blocked before sensor. Closed loop is calculated by inlet pressure sensor, open loop is calculated by different parameters, like driving speed, time engine running, accelerator pedal times pressed, ECT, e.c.t... by watching your videos I have seen that you want to see inlet(differential) pressure at idle about 10mBar. From my experience that is too low. My general rule of thumb is at idle 30mbar, high RPM max 170mBar. You read on manometer 90mBar what I would say is good. Yes, there was no parameter for inlet pressure in readable pressure, but there was PID in voltage(diesel particulate filter(V)). At ~0.45V pressure is 0Bar (KOEO). Idle should be higher. Did the voltage change?

[@chrisdavidson9431]

Good honest review and diagnosis Jimmy - thank you for all of your time and effort.

[@careyautorepairs]

Jimmy is the most honest man on KZbin.

[@neildean7515]

Good to listen to these videos inorder to see regular faults and cars/trucks that are causing people nightmares, if manufacturers do not resolve, they only damage their own reputation.. thanks jimmy, very interesting..

[@markobrien5551]

I had 3 Ford kuga’s in a week with the 1.5 diesel engine with the same issue and code, pure black shoe polish in the exhaust exit pipe all 2018 ish with under 40k on the clock. Definitely a bad DPF material problem, I went through everything and couldn’t find any issues. They all had good recent service but what I did notice on them all was oil life was on 0 and when I reset it looking on the scanner they only reset to 1% not 100% which most other fords go to, I repeated the process with a autel 909 snap on autocom and forscan paid version with the same results, so it could also be a software issue causing the issue through oil dilution but trying to regenerate on every key cycle, overwhelming the DPF core over time.

[@Ally-P-ZX7R]

Your videos have been super helpful Jimmy. I’ve had problems with my VW Amarok Biturbo 2.0 and watching your videos has helped me diagnose its problem. Thanks for such informative and interesting videos. Rest assured I’ll be watching intently in the future 👍🏻

[@1954307]

we do seem to have a problem with euro 6 cars, but kimmy they are all going to be euro 6 and above eventually so the sooner you get solutions the better, i did notice that on a lot of these euro 6 cars the required options that you normally use do not come up, maybe its time for extra diagnostic machines, as it cannot be design flaws on all of them, just a good glimpse into the future when we have to change our cars and vans, but you have iven us a good idea what not to buy lol...keep up the good work really enjoy all your videos..

[@ClassicTrialsChannel]

Looking at the state of that underneath. It's had a millage rollback.

[@kwinterburn]

I was wondering that

[@anelectrician]

Good shout !

[@TylerDurden-iw8mk]

YOU ARE JUST TOO GOOD AS A PERSON LOVE FROM SENEGAL YOU HELPING ME A LOT RIGHT NOW ON MY DIAGNOSIS PROCESS

[@coletorrens1121]

Most people who buy a 4x4 pick up give them really heavy use, Often used by builders with a ton of sand in the back and a mini digger on the tow hitch. They hammer up and down motorways and Highways Maintenance guys often leave them ticking over for hours. Oh and they are also often used and run on diesel that's from a grubby can!They work in filthy conditions too! no matter the make, they need VERY careful buying, I doubt this truck has been clocked, as its how I would expect to see the underside of a hard worked pick up, regardless of milage. There is an underlying question though. Why isn't it being fixed under Ford warranty? No service history is my guess. Great channel BTW. So informative and honest. My guess is you will get to the bottom of this issue on another Ranger soon!

[@LucozadeClw]

My Custom 2.0 is as rusty as this at 21000 miles. I know this is genune as I've had it from new. It's treated more like a car as I only use it for camping and trips to the tip etc. Short runs have killed it I think as I get "Service needed" message all the time. It then goes away. I've only managed to catch it once nefore ot disappeared and put my OBDII tester on it and it came up with P2463 I think it was. It very rarely goes in to limp mode but when it does it still goes very well but doesn't accelerate as quickly. I'm going to do a Jimmy DPF clean with an aerosol I got. I doubt it will work like the Launch cleaner but "hey ho give it a go"!

[@andreww9574]

I had the same code on my 2019 bmw 530d. Absolute nightmare, 6 months of hell and cost nearly £6000. Only solution was a new dpf and still not not it's finally cured! Yes I do long journeys everyday and give it a good blast! Car only done 40,000 miles when it first occurred

[@Ben-in6qh]

You must be not right in the head mate, 6k??

[@tomwall7966]

❤ greatly appreciate all the videos you upload on you tube most have been very helpful to me and you even done one video on my motor ford focus 1.6tdci and i loved it because i try look after my engine as best as possible😊thanks again jim and keep up good work

[@geoff3172]

Jimmy the p2002 can be caused by air leak pre dpf- you fixed that with the clamp. The dpf sensor that was suppose to have been changed wasn't reading the 8 hpa you had on you nanometer. So would say it need to be checked. Wasn't the air filter blocked seen on your other video..That won't help.

[@chrisl3802]

Had problem with DPF on BMW X5, found solution was to use hot water in a garden sprayer connected to dpf pressure sensor hose, after warming engine squirt for second or two every minute or so till roughly 3 or 4 litres have been used. This enabled the regeneration to be done via scan tool. wouldnt do so if pressure gets too high.Worked for me.

[@kkruger5016]

My penny's worth, I use a good fuel/dpf cleaning additive with tank refills very regularly. To maintain cleaner fuel injectors, cylinders and exhaust. ( It is the best care for any diesel engine and it will save you on maintenance cost) . If you cannot avoid short distance city traffic . Then regularly take the car out on a highway run for a 30km run for example, to get the operating temprature for dpf system to enable its operating function. In the end, the car and user will benefit.

[@rxy2580]

Nice looking vehicle, but the rust underneath would be of a big concern 3-4 years down the line.

[@StephenBrown-ti6mm]

Mate £150 minimum(diagnostic only) for some of that stuff the main dealers are taking it on then telling customers its a process of elimination throwing thousands £££ at it with no resolution you clearly have the knowledge and the tools to do the job sometimes the most profitable jobs are the ones you walk away from.

[@leonwardle9409]

Hi Jimmy, check data list in OBD, it should have all the emissions data available. Keep us updated.

[@blick63able]

Artic euro 6 dont have the issues, so the problem is cheap systems in car/van /pickup , when you look into adblue systems you can see how fagile they are, ford transit/ rangers are the worst offenders closely followed by vw pickups , this is just my experience ,. On a separate note dont give up Jimmy you are doing a fabulous service , i know it can be frustrating not to get to the bottom of problems, however persevere amd you will become a euro 6 guro ........

[@steves7973]

Sometimes nothing can be done for poorly designed systems. Very frustrating for mechanics who somehow have to come up with a miracle fix.

[@richardhartley7094]

Just a thought has it had a bodged adblue delete

[@kwinterburn]

To be honesti i was looking at replacing my SAAB 1.9 estate with 200 000 milesv i dont think i will bother now

[@Mark-gf7yw]

Euro 6 diesels not worth the hassle, I would go petrol next car and probably KIA, I have a 2011 insignia 2.0 CDTI, 0 hpa at idle, 20 hpa at 3000 revs, original dpf with 160’000 miles on it. Original DMF and clutch as well. 😀

[@MrByootox]

Pressure sensing glow plugs and boost pipe issues though

[@Mark-gf7yw]

@@MrByootox 1 glow plug replaced up to now £120 ouch!!….Boost pipe, egr cooler housing, boost solenoid all reasonably priced parts and easy DIY. Also a lot of these engines go boom at around 120000 miles, due to oil pickup seal, still better than replacing a DPF every 18000 miles though.

[@TheOriginalDaveJ]

Even a new dpf after 18k is absolutely ridiculous. Definitely a manufacturer issue where the cost should be footed by them, not the customer.

[@autoelectric3519]

Jimmy boss isee all 2.0 liter engine have problem with the dpf doesn't meter is ford or nissan Renault range rover or jaguar

[@timbo19751975]

Similar to the last one, i feel - also its defo had a haircut !

[@guygfm4243]

Have you considered that coms error as coursing a fault. There must be lots of fords running ok so something is not correct. And why can’t you find the differential pressure live feed? Thanks for sharing

[@stephengeraghty3368]

Does it have Magnets still in fuel cap so ecu knows how much fuel goes in tank .There's probably a rusty connection somewhere .👍

[@HA05GER]

Surely the rd should of done a dpf under warranty I would started with that just because no cost.

[@petersomthing9508]

Some time i just think it is the type of oil that has been put in the car , you know you take it for a service , and you never know what oil they used say 5w 30 but maybe cheap one what is not suitable for the car.😮

[@kwinterburn]

My first move would be to assume the code is coming from the soot you observed therefore the DPF has failed, I would fit a DPF from another vehicle type say a transit, the fact there are multiple issues being reported points to a design / manufacturing fault especially if the architecture is different, but you do see soot innthe exhaust which shouldn't really be there

[@LucozadeClw]

A DPF off another vehicle will have completely different plumbing to the Raptor. It's n ot that simple by far.

[@kevinlorenzo2885]

Bonjour j’ai un ford ranger 2.0 bi turbo aussi et j’ai le code default p2002 pression filtre a particules ligne 1 inférieur au seuil 1 d’où pensez vous que cela peut venir ? Je suis désespérée 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@akdenyer]

Need to start a class action against the manufacturer.

[@dmcarpman]

all this egr and dpf on euro6 like you say they are a pain. friend of mine has a merc franchise and says they same with these euro6 engine. one model is a constant egr fault all the time for blocking the dpf and the inlet manifold up. S*** design.

[@marcusdehne]

Can you test the vaporiser Is software triggering vaporiser enough? It just seems like dpf on low end of temperature

[@tas.es9]

there is no vaporizer in this engine

[@darwinrover]

"I dont have much experience with these engines" Not yet!

[@fredflintstone1]

Can you not remove the diesel particulate matter sensor and clean it??? of fit a replacement one as I expect they get clogged up

[@khalidacosta7133]

You NEVER clean or replace a DPF until you know the reason why it needed it in the first place. Otherwise you are throwing money away.

[@fredflintstone1]

@@khalidacosta7133 the matter sensor is not the DPF it is a sensor located after the DPF Derr....

[@khalidacosta7133]

@@fredflintstone1 Sorry, misread. It's pressure sensor, after 18k, there shouldn't be anything to clean. But yes, you can clean them but it probably won't make much difference as it's reporting accurate values, which he'll have tested.

[@paulnolan1352]

Found out that these Ford DPF’s are being replaced about every 4000miles, due to poor, low cost materials. It’s probably to get the customers to go Electric.

[@cliffthompson2996]

NICE work 👍👍👍

[@michaelp998]

For a vehicle that’s done a low mileage, it’s ridiculous. I’ve had two of these vehicles, and can honestly say, apart from a good looking truck, they seem to have a random self destruct mode.

[@stevenkerry3101]

looking at the rust on that i would say it's been clocked a car with that mileage should not have that much corrosion on it Jimmy .

[@Gone4zero4]

Glad I’m not the only one thinking that. I know someone that leases all his vans and pick ups plus his families top of the range German cars and clocks them so he does not get excess mileage charges on return.

[@kmcca08]

Under warranty, when replacing these dpfs, a new pcm update needs to be done at the same time. It must be down to bad software.

[@TheCopperknob]

Egr and dpf delete if it was mine

[@NigelsModellingBench]

I had a Ranger Raptor new back in 2020. Worst POS I ever bought. 5 recalls in 8 months, just after I sold it it had another recall to repaint the chassis.. WTF!! Just before I sold it I had an indicator fail, which took Bristol Street Motors 6 weeks and over £1000 in parts to fix!! Total Junk!!

[@Zander-gz6hx]

Poor quality fuel ? Ddtsb p2002- + 8 9 a b c d e or f sub codes may be caused by faulty particulate filter

[@2011pmoran]

Governments keep tightening the screw on emissions standards and the truth is that manufacturers can't realistically keep up. So, the manufacturers are forced to do things like cheat with software and/or they build junk systems that only last as long as the warranty. Then when the thing takes a crap, the owner is left holding the can in a big way. The vehicle gets sold on and on, passing the problem to the next poor unsuspecting schmuck. Sometimes the only thing you can do is to tell the owner that there's nothing you can do for them. No use in the mechanic being out of pocket because of it, as well as the owner.

[@Ben-in6qh]

One simple answer ....😉 🔨

[@thindo]

As Scotty Kilmer is always saying the new Ford's are "Junk"

[@jeffs2809]

he hasn't even had the chance to see these ones. USA doesn't get the diesels. FWIW, Scotty thinks everything is "junk" except his beloved toyotas.

[@matharris100]

More enjoyed this vid then the same old clean the dpf .

[@rarecockneyguvnor4945]

Wouldnt buy one of them 3 New DPF's on 20 thousand miles cost you over 10 grand every 20 thousand miles on DPF's thats insane cheaper to buy a house

[@beany1987]

Bloody hell that ford looks worse than my ds4 and that's done 103k and is 10 years old, get rid of that pickup he needs to absolutely shocking. I remember about 10 years ago ford UK changed from birtish steel to polish steel and immediately they started having issues with rust bubbling through the paint whilst they were sitting to be sold, maybe they have gone that way with the frames and everything now aswell.

[@khalidacosta7133]

These aren't even cars technically, these are commercial vehicles, so yes, cheapest steel and materials used!

[@beany1987]

@@khalidacosta7133 either way with that much mileage on it and being in that condition is awful.

[@khalidacosta7133]

@@beany1987 Could be clocked. Lots of financed cars are clocked because it works out much cheaper than declaring the mileage...

[@beany1987]

@@khalidacosta7133 could be but given its year and even if it's had done 130k the state of that underside is shocking, iv seen 15 year old cars with 150k in constant wet terrain on farms with less corrosion on them than this pickup.

[@tonydaddario4706]

When Jimmy said the sub frame had been painted did he mean overpainted?

[@Alpikerawlings]

FORD FIX OR REPAIR DAILY 🤣

[@rafo6577]

Found on road dead, is what we say around my area.

[@trickyfocus]

FORD "Full Of Rust & Dints"

[@jamarranger]

Diesels are finished, you would need to be off your nut to entertain one these days. Unreal.