Bergara B14r vs Tikka T1x vs CZ 457 LRP vs Ruger

[@antouab221]

So nice to see 10/22 in the mix with the high precision bunch. Awesome video :)

[@BROTUNED]

Glad you liked it! I’ll definitely bring out some quiet 22 in the future

[@michaelstalenberg2407]

It was bad becuse he has precision berrals and cant shoot better.so for me its ok but not good

[@justindavis4897]

Your videos always make me smile. Thanks for the work you do !!!!!!!

[@BROTUNED]

My pleasure!! Makes me happy people enjoy them. Thanks for your support it’s greatly appreciated

[@robertbolbot2071]

Right, I've been a RIFLEMAN for 40 years,been shooting for 56 years,got some knowledge stacked away.I've never shot a bullshit "fortnight, videogame" looking rifle. Both my Brno zkm 452e 22 rimfires shoot less than 1/2 inch moa out to 100 meters,neither look like sci-fi specials,both cost less than 500 dollars both wear inexpensive 3×9 ×40 scopes,one shoots cci mini mags into 1/2 inch at 100,the other shoots AUSTRALIAN win subsonics into 3/4 to 1 inch moa at 100. Your "custom" high end 22's can go piss in the wind! Spend time,try different ammo,buy quality BUT DONT BUY INTO THE CUSTOM ADJUSTABLE RIP OFF BULLSHIT!,You don' need it!!! As an aslde,my cheap spanish(1970's) 7x57 mauser will group into 1/4 inch at 100 with speer 145 grain hot cor's,JUST SPEND TIME, You can spend thousands,or you can do the job properly! I've never shot a 452 that isn't super accurate,juat saying.

[@robertbolbot2071]

Sorry should have read less than 1moa at 100,apologies,witnessed groups for rhe 22's,I stand by my comments 110%

[@BROTUNED]

That’s very impressive! I have a hard time getting any cci ammo to shoot 1 moa at 100 yards with any rifle. I was impressed with the results in this video to be totally honest. You should join the dayartherange.com community and do the challenges they put out every month. I’d love to watch you shoot! I’m just having fun here nothing very serious. Thanks for the comment

[@kentcori7620]

Thanks for the heads up comparison. I’ve owned the same model Bergara B14r as you for the past three years. It is still box stock. I really like this rifle with its carbon fiber barrel. I started with CCI Standard Velocity when I bought the gun. My five-shot group average for four groups is identical to what you observed at 0.56 inches. This is the average for three sessions (a dozen groups) over a two month period. Winds were as high as 8 mph from 30-degrees during one session. I wasn’t satisfied with this performance, so I began extensive ammo comparisons at 100 and 200 yards. Not only was it a fun exercise but enlightening as well. I tried a dozen different 40 grain ammo products from Mini-Mags (terrible groups at 100 yards) to SK Rifle Match and Long Range Match, to Eley Tenex and Lapua Center-X and Long Range. My B14r likes the SK Long Range Match, Center-X and Lapua Long Range the best. Curiously, it hates Eley Match and Tenex. The three best ammos typically grouped at about 0.90 to 1.04 MOA at both 100 and 200 yards. The best performance by the CCI Standard Velocity was 1.6 MOA. All of these are averages for four runs of five-shot groups. My point is, as we all know, 22lr rifles are very picky about ammo. What works well in my B14r may not work as well in yours. Or it might perform better. If you expand this comparison, I would like you to use the ammo that has worked best in each of your rifles and do so at 100 and 200 yards. Using the “favorite” ammo of each rifle should put them on a more equal footing. The longer ranges will better reveal the accuracy differences. Again, thanks for your well done comparison and the time you obviously put into testing and the video. Please keep up the good work.

[@BROTUNED]

Thanks so much for this information. I plan on doing way more testing with all of these rifles but I have to say for a bone stock out of the box rifle the bergara really shoots well will almost everything. I have t had the chance to take it out to longer ranges yet but I most definitely will in the future. By shooting the same ammo I just wanted to see how they would do with the same ammo and to be honest they did better than I was expecting. Usually the groups are much larger than the groups shown in this video. I’ll definitely look into trying what you described in your comment. And definitely at a longer distance. Cheers and thanks for the advice!

[@precisionleadthrowing4628]

awesome, I've been eyeballing all of those lately. It's good to see it going so well with standard velocity CCI

[@BROTUNED]

You and me both! I think nothing touches cci sv for the price and honestly if I shot offhand it most likely wouldn’t be the ammo that made me miss ha ha

[@brianegeberg8497]

Nicely done!! Love my 10-22s however!!

[@asian_raisin]

Definitely the rifle. My Ruger 10/22 16" barrel I've had for over 20 years shoots dime size groups using this CCI Standard Velocity. I'd love to own both the Tikka T1x and the CZ 457 as well.

[@BROTUNED]

They are nice rifles

[@sherryengrav3370]

A really great video I enjoyed watching it at true test

[@BROTUNED]

Thank you very much! Glad you found it entertaining! Cheers!

[@GeorgeLeshko]

very good video . thank for not playing music like so many people do on their video .. great job

[@ryannewby5821]

Great Video thanks for sharing. I have a T1x in a KRG X-ray and use CCI SV for most of my shooting and switch to Midus + when I want really tight groups.

[@BROTUNED]

Sounds like a nice rifle set up. If you want a really nice bolt handle check out atlasworx.com they make some very nice parts to upgrade the T1X. Cheers my friend

[@mikeluckhardt5400]

100 yards next from this group.. ?

[@BROTUNED]

Same ammo?

[@stevenlee2780]

@@BROTUNED yes please. It would be interesting to see how the CCI SV holds up out to 100 yd.

[@mikeluckhardt5400]

Same rifles and ammo

[@BROTUNED]

I’ll definitely try that

[@johanloots2825]

awesome - would like to see more of these tests with different ammo

[@BROTUNED]

I definitely will do more seems people like these style videos

[@RobsKoiPond]

What do you prefer in your CZ lrp your IBI barrel or the OEM?

[@BROTUNED]

I think the ibi shoots more consistently basically less flyers but as far as accuracy goes they are very similar. If you aren’t competing I would just use that cash for more ammo and trigger time because the factory barrel shoots very good. The reason I use the factory barrel more often is most of my viewers want to see the original barrel more because they can relate more to that than a barrel they don’t have

[@TheReallyPleasedDoge]

@@BROTUNED It would be interesting to see the inside of the barrels with a bore scope. My original CZ barrel had 4 deep cut rings size of your wife's elastic hair band in there. Never did understand how they accomplished this when the barrel was supposed to be cold hammer forged.

[@Natezoinks]

Jealous of your shooting bench 😂, great video! Love the 100 yard ideas! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@SpeedyCotton55]

Thank you sir, nicely done.

[@rustynut1967]

Excellent! Some of those groups were surprising.

[@BROTUNED]

Ya I didn’t think they would do that well

[@mikegargiulo194]

My Tikka shoots cci SV and stacks them at 50 yds! Love this ammo. Bought a couple of bricks, but then realized Eley Team and Eley Match stacked even tighter. No weight or rim thickness sorting either. Great video! I might have to go down the rabbit hole even further now and go get a CZ or a Bergara! Lol

[@BROTUNED]

Ya one of these days I’ll sort by weight and rim thickness and see what happens

[@mikegargiulo194]

I’ve tried it, and made minimal difference. Bought the scale, measuring caliper, and with the more expensive ammo, almost zero difference in each load… after wasting 2 hours of pissing off my wife!

[@stevenlee2780]

I thought the target test was excellent to do 4 5-shot groups (to give the barrel a chance to settle and foul in) and then 1 10-shot group to compare against each rifle. Nice video, concise and “on target”.

[@BROTUNED]

Thank you I always read and consider every bit of positive and negative criticism I get in the comments and try to apply and improve my videos. I’m glad you liked this video and thanks for your comment. Cheers!

[@Omi-7k]

how does the cci standard do at longer distances?

[@BROTUNED]

I think I should find out

[@TheReallyPleasedDoge]

I love the bergara barrels and action, and even that stock in a .22 would be pretty good. What saddens me is when the company puts a 300PRC from their flagship premiere lineup in this same stock and thinks it will hold up to the recoil. Pro tip - it won't. No matter what torque or how much loctite you put on there it will work itself loose. Bed the action properly and it will shoot amazing groups. Note it was the $1000 aftermarket chassis that won this showdown. Quite a few companies out there making great actions and barrels and then dropping the ball to cut cost when it comes to putting them in the stock. Jack of all trades - master of none. Pick one and stick to it. Partner with a reputable stock/chassis manufacturer and deliver the product the customer actually wants in the end. Thanks for the comparison!

[@BROTUNED]

I agree with you 100% well said

[@simonhamilton4562]

I have found my guns really do not print well with CCI especially .17HMR. You need compatible ammo. I would also suggest a mod will potentially tighten groups. Why do you need lower scope rings when the rifle had a cheek riser unless it was so far out it affects shoulder and LOP

[@BROTUNED]

It was a stretch to get a good view and it wasn’t really repeatable

[@joostprins3381]

I got a Ruger American Rimfire Long Range Target and using the CCI SV, once in a while I try to use other ammo like the RWS and Eley (the black expensive one) and every time I go back to the CCI SV’s.

[@BROTUNED]

There is nothing wrong with cci sv especially for the price

[@joostprins3381]

@exactly, and they are very clean!

[@PaladinBlades]

In what video did you modify the trigger on the T1X? I can't seem to find it.

[@BROTUNED]

I took it down because I was having problems with nd’s

[@PaladinBlades]

@@BROTUNED Like "Going off on it's own" type thing or just a way too light trigger?

[@christopheschmidt2852]

great video, thank you very much 😎💪🏽

[@BROTUNED]

Glad you liked it! More like this to come

[@stephencarran7650]

Most of my .22LRs shoot CCI Std Velocity very well. Some of the fliers you can put down do to inconsistencies in the velocities. Sometimes you can get 100fps difference with cheaper ammo. One of the most consistent budget ammos is Aguila Subsonic. I put 20 rounds over my Labradar and had an SD of

[@BROTUNED]

Thanks I definitely can’t afford the top tier rifle especially with KZbin monetization money ha ha

[@jimcastillo8950]

What scope did you have on the CZ 457?

[@TheGoldenboy476]

Would you be willing to rerun the 10/22 with high/hyper velocity considering that it's a semi? Might tighten things up. Thanks.

[@BROTUNED]

Ya I will definitely try that

[@griftopherhitchens9926]

Im in the GTA, can you reccomend a shooting range? Cheers for the video.

[@BROTUNED]

I used to be a member at Orono fish and hunt club but I haven’t been there in probably 5 or more years. I usually go to crown land in the middle of nowhere for centerfire and I just shoot rimfire in my backyard. Sorry not to familiar with ranges in your area.

[@Harrishawk24]

My equipment is expensive too I shoot no less than 90 yds out to 300 yds with budget ammo I would like too see what your rifles can do compared to my groups I hunt small game out at distance and shoot steel with same ammo

[@BROTUNED]

What equipment do you use and what ammo are you using. I could try and see what I can do for you.

[@nelsonm5032]

Awesome video, maybe my favorite to date! i knew the Tika would do excellent with cci sv. of the three, the tika's seem to do much better with cci sv... now... i have to buy one just because ;) great video Brother! Cheers.

[@BROTUNED]

Glad you enjoyed it! The tills definitely won’t let you down. Plus the $1 trigger mod

[@nelsonm5032]

i’m seriously looking into a T1X now and put it in a MDT field stock… damn you 😜

[@mikegargiulo194]

@@BROTUNED I did the trigger spring swap as well and got the pull weight down to .9 of a lb! Love it, and it’s still safe at that weight. Tikka triggers are above avg. in my book. Changing grip out for more vertical helps as well. Titanium firing pin also upgraded. Just have to be careful not to dry fire. My inexperience caused a burr to develop which caused miss feeding issues. Had to buy a swage tool to reshape the action. Smh…

[@MaxHines-mg2rs]

It would be interesting to see the same procedure with each rifle being fed it's favourite ammo.

[@Jdelta22nc]

Great video, you have a very consistent lot number. Reminds me of a good lot number I got from my local shop of the Norma TAC22.

[@BROTUNED]

I honestly was very surprised at the results of these rifles with this amm

[@Jdelta22nc]

@@BROTUNED You have a good lot, check the lot number and buy as much as you can afford. I bought 5 bricks of the TAC22 and if the gave more of the same will buy 5 more.

[@tjfishing2714]

They all shot excellent for such cheap ammo. Would like to see how much better they shoot with SK long range.

[@BROTUNED]

I’ll definitely try that out

[@frankbrowning328]

Are these groups at 50 yards or 100 yards?

[@BROTUNED]

These are 50 yards

[@frankbrowning328]

@@BROTUNED Thanks, just subscribed. Great content!

[@thewiseman6866]

Awesome video, nice shooting

[@BROTUNED]

Thanks cheers!

[@virgilpalmer2427]

All very good rifles 🎉

[@BROTUNED]

I think the ruger needs some love.

[@silverbackhayabusa]

Recently bought the Target Lite. Not in the position to spend more at the moment. Found CCI Blazer to work in it pretty well at 50. The Blazer beat out all other low cost ammo so far. I've tried roughly a dozen different types. Haven't tried any high end ammo in it yet.

[@BROTUNED]

I have some I’ll definitely give it a try

[@colinsimmons2913]

I have a CZ lrp and sometime i can,t get that CCi ammo won't go in the breech has a great size variation, I know they are a match breech mine must be right at the smaller end of specs SK yellow is the go for this girl tack driver . We call them over here wireless hole punches.

[@BROTUNED]

Ya same with mine the so standard plus just seems to always do very well. Mine will feed cci sv no problem at all that’s crazy yours won’t but at least you get the performance out of the standard plus. Cheers!

[@MnShootingSports]

Love the comparisons using 4 different rigs', IMO it really comes down to which discipline are you shooting with CCI SV? Maybe not the best choice in a bench rest match but if its an NRL match inside of 100 yards where the targets are 1 MOA or greater...

[@BROTUNED]

Ya it definitely works for the price. It’s what the kids plink with most of the time

[@johanneslaxell6641]

I guess that no-one loves the Sako Quad, Tlkka is a nice Finnish rifle but Sako was at least earlier the premium brand. Wondering about getting a .22WMR and then Sako is in the game as we don't have that great of a inventory to choose from regarding those calibers... I would like a (Ruger?) Allweather in black polymer and all stainless hardware but that seems to be impossible to get...

[@BROTUNED]

I’d love to get a sako and still might one day. I have a 17 Mach 2 and 17 hmr so that one rifle would take the place of both of those and probably shoot better

[@antouab221]

I would LOVE to see the same setup, same rifles but with CCI Quiet 710 fps ammo at 30-40 yards.

[@stewartw7248]

CCI quiet will group well but hits about 6 inches lower at 50 yards. The Quiet ammo is awesome in revolvers and shorter barrels. The CCI suppressor ammo hits within a quarter inch and not too loud in 20+" barrels. The CCI quiet semi is good in 16" and 18" barrels and ruger semi pistols.

[@Ably1972]

Hell yes I would love to see a comparison between the TM22 vs Ruger Target, bring it on!

[@BROTUNED]

I’ll definitely do that!

[@Ably1972]

Right on!

[@ronaldbenskin493]

Great work!

[@BROTUNED]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@G19gen4]

would you in general prefer a CZ 457 Varmint 16" over a Bergara B14 HMR 18"?

[@BROTUNED]

I have never shot the HMR but the cz 457 is a great platform with basically unlimited upgrade possibilities. If I had to choose I would choose the CZ

[@G19gen4]

@@BROTUNED I mean the B14 R 18"... The .22 you have... Sorry

[@BROTUNED]

I think the cz is still my choice but the b14r I do believe is a bit more accurate out of the box. But it has way more issues with extraction and ejection

[@chuckventers2273]

Yeah I liked the comparison

[@BROTUNED]

I’ll definitely do more of these

[@georgecolee7663]

That Tikka is winner for sure! I wonder what the factory CZ barrel groups would look like? Get that 10/22 bolt tuned up it helps a bunch. Cheers

[@BROTUNED]

That is the factory cz 457 LRP barrel. I have a stainless IBI barrel also. In this vid the only think done to the cz is a trigger and a .0015” bolt shim

[@22guru]

Awesome 😎

[@BROTUNED]

Thanks!

[@22guru]

@@BROTUNED you're welcome

[@joelquintos5075]

Awesome shooting boss

[@BROTUNED]

Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed the video

[@stevenxindaris1477]

You apparently got a good lot of CCI Standard. Have had some good lots myself but it has been definitely hit or miss. Good shooting.👍

[@BROTUNED]

Thanks it definitely surprised me

[@Grumpyseabee22]

Great job!

[@BROTUNED]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@Oscarhobbit]

Hi from Northern Ireland (UK)! I wish I could add photographs here, but I can achieve 5 shot groups with each hole stacked on top of the other, at 50 yards with a CZ 512 Tactical (Factory stock version). I have won two rife companions with this little rifle. My 16 year old son came a close second to me in the same compton using my CZ rife. I replaced a Ruger 10/22 with my CZ 512, there is no comparison with the two guns. I would never purchase another Ruger firearm. The fit and finish of CZ is ten times better. Milled with millimetre precision, in my opinion European guns are far superior.

[@BROTUNED]

I love CZ they are great guns I will keep an eye out for a 512 sounds like it would make a great addition to my collection and channel. Thanks for sharing this comment with me.

[@CountryRimfire]

My Bergara can't stand cheap ammo 😢 I wish it did!! My CZ does better with CCi, but Crickett shoots it best. My 10/22 is a picky sob, which is not what I was hoping for lol 😢 But it does very well with SK Standard Plus, so I can't complain too much. Nice showdown man!! Very well executed and followed out. 👍 😊 Very impressive results from CCi 😮 👏 Now take that Tikka and do LongRifles CCi challenge!!!

[@BROTUNED]

Ya I think I will do that cheers!

[@CountryRimfire]

@@BROTUNED Nice! I'll be watching for it ... should be exciting!

[@MrDsmith1959]

Thanks

[@BROTUNED]

Welcome

[@Harrishawk24]

You have good vids just remember to always say the distance because without that i dont know what im looking at

[@dttrandom]

My CZ Varmint shoots CCI SV worse than my 10/22 Takedown, but outshines the 10/22 with SK ammo while the 10/22 doesn't shoot SK any better than with CCI.

[@pitts3219]

As far as budget ammunition I have much better luck with Norma Tac. Thanks for the comparison!

[@BROTUNED]

I will definitely do this again with normal ta

[@chub4141]

You should get one of them 1022 made buy Magnum Research

[@BROTUNED]

I’ll keep an eye out for one

[@perrym6937]

good video how come no savages on list? i have a b22 that will shoot with anything you shot in this test at half the price

[@berteisenbraun7415]

Savage 22 way underrated, they do shot well.

[@chrislang5659]

Your semi likes CCI just about as much as my 597🙄 I'd love to see what the TM22 can do with it!❤❤❤

[@BROTUNED]

I’ll definitely try it out

[@7come11two]

The Tikka likes that lot of CCI SV.

[@BROTUNED]

It did very well in my opinion better than I thought

[@Patrick-jt4dk]

You need to try some SK Standard Plus it’s much better ammo

[@BROTUNED]

Standard plus is my go to for most of these rifles

[@Harrishawk24]

what you paid for your stuff dosent help me with my shootinhg if i dont know the distance with guns like that 50 yards is a waste of ammo

[@BenchrestMarksman]

Tikka T1x does really well with cci even how unpredictable it is

[@BROTUNED]

I was surprised

[@temamapachuau9274]

Plzz give me one of those

[@meyerlansky4528]

Very interresing maybe try with another ammo ??😊

[@BROTUNED]

Definitely I just wanted to start at the bottom

[@Harrishawk24]

why dont anybody ever tell the range you told me everything i didnt need to know

[@BROTUNED]

Sorry about that normally I mention the range. This was at 50 yards with the cheapest ammo I own and it basically shoots this bad in all of my rifle from budget to these mid range rifles. I’ll make sure I mention the range next time. Sorry about that

[@Harrishawk24]

@@BROTUNED so far since i got into shooting long distance i never shot nothing but cheap ammo cci tac 22 thousands of rds got some sk standard coming in a wk i saw you shoot some on your other video had some good groups try 300 yds it would be a good video

[@FredHaferkamp]

Anything by CZ is great

[@FukuYTmark6]

I figured the Tikka would take this one.

[@BROTUNED]

I was surprised how well they all shot with the budget ammo

[@stevenlee2780]

@@BROTUNED I think at 50 yds, this is the “power” of subsonic speed, not being influenced by wind due to slower speed, hence why I think why “long range” ammo does not do as well as standard or subsonic match ammo at 50 or 100 yds, and will shine at 150+ yds (on average). Of course, lot tested ammo to match to rifle optimum performance will yield maximum results, but at the cost of lot testing.

[@motorcyclecafe]

There is something not right with the muzzle of that ruger!

[@BROTUNED]

It’s pretty bad maybe I’ll scope it

[@motorcyclecafe]

@@BROTUNED no I meant something was not done up tight or cross threaded maybe. Watch your video & look at the muzzle. Either way it wouldn't be good for accuracy.

[@Grumpyseabee22]

So far it’s .5 average is doing good!

[@BROTUNED]

Ya better than I thought with cci sv

[@nelsonm5032]

i had a unexpected result from my CZ 457 MTR and CCI SV. .33 -.40 -.44-.43 -.35 = 0.390 got super lucky...

[@BROTUNED]

That’s awesome man basically getting premium ammo sized groups I’d definitely buy more of that stuff

[@joshwebb609]

Savages are king😂

[@thomascochran3641]

This is not a valid "study". Too many variables to start with. Review your statistical analysis criteria for a "valid study". Purely an anecdotal appraisal of 4 rifles. Don't mean to be too harsh, but people reviewing this need to understand that determining which rifle is more "accurate" requires a much more disciplined and scientific approach. Take it for what it is, a quickly done opinion that could vary from shooter to shooter and day to day.

[@Kyrimfireandhobbies]

Rebarrel the 10/22

[@BROTUNED]

Ya something has to change it’s brutal

[@joshwebb609]

If you know how too it welll all day

[@Victor-w7o]

The 1022 has a disadvantage the barrel is to short and its semi auto.😊