Rings of Power Producer thinks You're RACIST for criticizing

[@MaliciousMollusc]

Funny, it's more racist to mess with the races of an established story.

[@lovedefault1167]

exactly, and then they call us fans "racists" pffft ironic

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

specially since "diversity" seems to only mean black people and strong women. Where's the asians, latinos and native americans?

[@MaliciousMollusc]

@@Yarblocosifilitico And herein lies the hypocrisy of the entire movement. They don't care about everybody else, it's just an excuse.

[@Chrree]

Not only that. Changing characters instead of giving black actors their own new characters and franchises is racist too.

[@thetalkativefos716]

@@Phisherman86 that is probs the most racist statement here

[@LetsGetitBoah]

Funny, as the cast themselves have proclaimed that they are activists and every time you hear them talk about the show, they're focused almost solely on talking about diversity.

[@douglasarthur2673]

They are the literal racists. It’s ALL they can see.

[@MrFallenone]

Only thing they talk about more than diversity is themselves.

[@Nani-nh6qz]

And about race, it makes no sense someone that someone can say they are no racist but all they talk about their job is their race and the race of their coworkers

[@nathanthompson742]

@Dante Rossini All the money Amazon has dumped into this franchise of course they are going to use it to push social agendas and protect the Amazon brand. Corporations would rather be politically correct and avoid backlash from the casuals which let's face it weighs more heavily than the core audience. This rendition is not catering to Tolkiens work or the fans its going to be a watered down politically driven mess of a story made for a different generation. I really do hope I'm wrong, I was so excited when they first announced they were making a LOTR series but if they are going to modernize it to push current social agendas without paying respects to the story then I hope it flops and flops hard.

[@AeternusNox.]

@@MrFallenone This happens a lot with these types of people, they think they're making a difference... 😞

[@thebatman4279]

I hope to God this show absolutely bombs. Please make it happen.

[@tekkblade82]

It won't initially. Amazon is too big and pushing too hard for it not to have big numbers at launch. Unless they do major course correction those numbers won't last to season 5, and likely not even season 2 or 3.

[@guillermoelnino]

you overestimate peoples intelligence.

[@tekkblade82]

@Dante Rossini I won't be watching it, so that's my part. Also I'm warning my family and friends it's not telling a Tolkien story, and likely will be shit.

[@rethellense901]

Here's a strategy: Promote House of Dragon. Capitalism has its own advantages and you can make use of Amazon's competition to bring that show down. LoL.

[@hermitcard4494]

God has more importan things than a tv show. He still has not done anything with trans drag shows in churches nor pastors having millions in jewelry. Well, that last one a thief stole them, so... blessings on the thief I guess.

[@simsportif]

-Take popular franchise and give it a new "spin" -New spin consists entirely in ticking the wokest boxes -Trailer comes out, people hates it -Creators huff and starts berating and insulting their target audience for not "appreciating" their "work of art" -Target audience shuns the show, show bombs -Entire Franchise ruined Rinse and repeat.

[@belegur8108]

damn, are you critizising Star Trek, Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Terminator, Marvel Universe, Wheel of Time, Rings of Power? i am so unsure which one you mean... /sarcasm

[@RogerS1978]

@@belegur8108 lol so true at least it can't be DC, their too busy cancelling their own stars

[@doyourbest_uwu]

Sun Tzu's "Art of Woke"

[@lua6091]

they literally will not stop until they ruin every single franchise lmao

[@Svaberen]

They don't think we are racist at all. Labeling someone is just an easy way to dismiss critism. A common tactic used by the media all the time

[@Ithilienranger345]

Although I do agree with your overall statement, I will say I believe it's completely possible that they've said we're racist enough that they actually believe that we are

[@StevenTLawson]

@@Ithilienranger345 I am racist, and this show is still crap though even if everyone was a White man and woman it wouldn't save that this looks poorly directed, overuses cheap cgi and that the series is trying to "modernize" Tolkien's work. Tolkien's work doesn't need to be modernized, it needs to be accurately adapted because that's what brought people into the series and made his work so famous. Make adaptions for series what they are, not what they aren't. You wouldn't modernize a series like Fallout because that series is supposed to take place, Post Modern, after all this stuff. With this, Middle Earth isn't our Earth modernizing it makes no sense because their world doesn't work like ours, they wouldn't have anything similar to our own current topics that the series so desperately wants to shoehorn in. Stop saying. "I'm not racist, but-" start saying, "I am racist, and-" because then you've taken away their power. Because if liking Tolkien's work for what he made it to be makes you racist. If liking the original work from the original author makes you a phobe, then guess what I am now. It's like vegans trying to say that if you eat steak that you are a murderer. I like steak a hell of a lot more than I care about what random people think about me, so someone better put Betsy on a plate with a side of potatoes and biscuits.

[@SoundEngraver]

Thank you. It's all for attention.

[@alexanderringler5747]

You mean like recently, when Hilary Clintion said, that Bernie Sanders is a sexist?

[@fd502]

I’m just a simple KZbin browsing person but I like to call it hate bait. They bait you into saying something matters not what… then they twist it.

[@WeekendWarrior1]

It's always weird to me when the showrunners alienate the target audience, a too high IQ play

[@Blizz3112]

They must have money enough, I guess...

[@HandleDisliker]

I'm starting to think that it's a sales tactic. There's no such thing as bad publicity, so why not drum up some modern controvery to support your weak, poorly-made show? Bring in activists that are passionate in flaunting the controversy and they'll drum up a fuss on their own. Then the show doesn't even have to be good. You'll now have the attention of an audience that'll support any liberal work no matter how awful it is._They will_ trudge through your show. And honestly that is the audience that will probably watch this crap decades from now, drumming up more money.

[@solarmyth1945]

Their target audience is being replaced. So now they have no need to cater to the old audience.

[@tyrannosaurusimperator]

They think their target audience is a bunch of evil, dumb savages and that it's their burden to educate them.

[@nerhip288]

It's not about using an existing property to pool fans in it's about reusing old things they have on hand so they don't have to do any actual work

[@JonathanSirico]

"I'm the first female Dwarf ever!" "Actually, if you watch the Hobbit you will see female Dwarves in the first 3 minutes." "You're a rasict, misogynistic hater!"

[@jsw973]

They're about as smart and creative as a 12 year old bully in middle school trying to get people to do what they want

[@karnagefails333]

💯

[@eamonnholland5343]

Willow had tons of actual dwarves, even non-white dwarves, and female dwarves. This black lady isn't even a real dwarf. She's stealing a job from an actual dwarf.

[@MyAramil]

@@eamonnholland5343 She would then spin it around and move the goal post "But I meant in a lord of the rings visual media!" when you bring up the hobbit movies "That does not count!" she would then cry.

[@jorimgoebel2362]

To be fair they have a screentime of about 5 seconds and are only just background figures. I mean it’s still a lie but it’s to me not the dumbest thing they say.

[@jmlaw8888]

These people are part of a project that looked at something instrinsically "white" in a cultural sense and said "weve got to change that". Them accusing fans of racism is a bit of the old pot vs kettle scenario.

[@rpgadventurer32]

Intrinsically "European" which includes a large amount of people, cultures, languages and European ethnicities. They're so shallow that they can't understand the difference between northern Europeans, central Europeans and southern Europeans, let along Slavic people or even the various different native ethnicities in the UK. Tolkien's works are intrinsically northern and western European in their ethnical, linguistic and cultural make ups. The problem is in the US - for them they're obsessed with the color of the skin in the most shallow ignorant way possible, especially in California and in Hollywood.

[@darktenor4967]

These days the terms "sexist", and "racist", are not so much descriptors of other peoples opinions, as simply insults levelled at anyone who dares to criticise established media. This is not just bad in terms of conflict and effectively insulting people, but also bad in terms of pointing out really sexist and racist behaviour, since if disliking something with a none white actor is racist, and yet, say treating someone badly because they are of a given race is equally racist, you've made the word "racism", mean effectively less. Then again, this is just the standard way the media works these days, if you don't get what you're given and like it, then you! are the one who is a bad person, since obviously these highly paid, highly privileged writers, actors and directors can't possibly do anything wrong, or make a bad product, especially when dealing with an established universe with an established fandom.

[@kantez6996]

You know whats worst thin in all of this? When i was a kid in the 90s and early 2000s i was enjoying movies with actors from all races and genders and i never questioned their apperance. Predator, Blade, Police Academy (and other comedies with Nielsen), Star Wars, Day of Independece and many many more, all featuring actors from all races and genders. I was basically colorblind. Now the real racists, pigs, disgusting twats from the left are making everyone FOCUS on the races, not mentioning making shitty movies with forced, bad written token characters. Progressive maggots eating all the fun from cinematografy and games. How pathetic and backward it is.

[@DocStrange0123]

I would also add that "sexist" and "racist", in some sense, they have no meaning or value anymore, they are used constantly and for too long as a shield at the slightest critique or when someone hears something they don't quite like and instead of listening and thinking about what others are saying they go the easy way, sexist, racist etc etc those words as I said have no longer meaning.

[@schnek8927]

@@DocStrange0123 Plot twist; Neither of those words *ever* meant anything.

[@SirZelean]

@@DocStrange0123 Yep, pretty much like "mother fucker". You never call people that because you think they fuck mothers. You just call them that to be mean. There's no meaning at all behind it.

[@mokarokas-1727]

@@schnek8927 - Why do only racists and sexists say the words never mean anything? Prove me wrong.

[@Nani-nh6qz]

"It's racist" said the woman using race to deflect criticism, literally using a black female imp as a Meat shield

[@J1283-s1k]

Absolutely right. It's so diversionary that it's ludicrous.

[@bliglum]

It's projection. These woke cultists are all horribly racist.

[@Nani-nh6qz]

@@J1283-s1k ik bro they make a bit fuss about but don't look themselves in a mirror for they are the true racist

[@J1283-s1k]

@@Nani-nh6qz Yes absolutely. It's not the dreadful combination of insulting story changes and condensing down this thousands of years era of Middle Earth or unbelievably bad character changes (warrior, adventurer Galadriel) or the inclusion of a tonne of unwanted, new characters or the race swapping of races that, in the book lore, are simply not that race, which isn't racism but it's accuracy to the books which were accurate to 20th century England, let alone Tolkien's attempt at a mythology for England long, long before even his time. But no. She just gets to blindly label it as racism without a single look into the context or approach of the disappointment of the fans, let alone look at the absolute plethora of other show-destroying problems I mentioned, and is happy to just categorise all unhappy fans as racists and see them banished. It will be absolute good riddance when this show gets put into the bin of fan hate. Truly well deserved from all fronts.

[@Nani-nh6qz]

@@J1283-s1k indeed, everything you said is spot on. Nobody cares about these characters race we care about the prostitution of the work of one of the greatest. I'm no English but this guy literally wrote the most influential mythos from your ppl and this leftist fucks want to use the folklore to make money. Isnt that cultural apropiation? Hahahaha

[@willd1mindmind639]

Well basically the crux of this is they are calling Tolkien racist and European mythology racist for not including enough diversity. But they can't do that without looking like hypocrites for trying to make money of his work while calling him racist. So they have to blame the fans and use them as proxies for this for daring to argue that European literature and mythology would have mostly Europeans in it.

[@aesir1ases64]

exactly

[@luxintenebris1776]

It's funny. But trying to apply their same logic to literally any non European group/mythology would be horribly racist. We need more white characters in African stories about African mythology!! We need diversity! Oh wait. That's white washing. And we can't have that. Nor can we risk cultural appropriation. We need to do better.

[@admirekashiri6651]

Truth is they're the racists for tokenizing black.and Asiatic actors in European centered stories.

[@eamonnholland5343]

The people involved with the show have already called Tolkien and his works inherently racist, implicitly and explicitly.

[@jorimgoebel2362]

@àsper Can you name an example? Because this kind of thing seems difficult to research on goggle without more context. Thank you

[@aesir1ases64]

I have to admit some of the people in the show look nice but others look flat out clowns, this exec producer is one of them, that dwarf woman as well. I miss the time when the creators of the show respected their fanbase. PJ was hammered and critized so much for The Hobbit even though half of its flaws was not his fault. Did he called out the fanbase? Did he complained the fandom was machist because they did not wanted the original character (Tauriel)? NO! He suck it up, said nothing and when he did we can see he lamented how things went down (he never directed blame towards anyone, bot even the studio who deserved). PJ is a good man, one that actually shares a lot of similiarities with Tolkien. PJ never cared about fame or glory, he loved movies and wanted to create movies about his favorite stories (LOTR and that Gorilla story), now he chills in New Zeland, very far from the disgraceful Hollywood and their nasty people and ideologies. Most of these people that work in films and series nowadays are despicable and are mentally ill, its the only way to explain how they support the disgusting woke ideology.

[@LandStrider23]

@@reeceemms1643 i actually liked Tauriel, but you could feel the corporate forced love triangle crap they injected needlessly. It she was in the story without the rubbish involving love for Kili then it seemed it would have been better off. Also less alfred & more Thranduil would've have helped the movies.

[@Pheonix_SMASH]

I'm beginning to think that Morgoth has come back to corrupt everything in this world

[@amyb.6368]

I think we're living in Tolkien's planned sequel to LOTR. The one where all the youngsters pretended to be orcs because it was cool...

[@turquoiseragdoll]

For anyone planning to hate-watch this show, I'd recommend to just pirate it. Don't give Bezos your money

[@Fedorevsky]

@àsper Sure, but realistically we all know lots of fans won't do that. I won't watch it and you will abstain as well, but for the best outcome we should get the most fervent fans to pirate it i think.

[@Fedorevsky]

@àsper We're not in disagreement over that. Far from it. I'm just trying to be realistic. We both know lots of people will watch stuff like this no matter what. I don't know if it is masochism or what but lots of people who like us complain about these issues still watch every single show and movie anyway and then they meet up after to complain and do this group masochist thing they do. I hate it and find it weak and embarrassing to bare witness to but it's still something that happens.

[@armand9732]

Yea, im sure that will make a difference

[@stevenschnepp576]

Or just don't hate-watch something.

[@kegarmoe]

Not even going to hate-watch it because I don't want to give them the views. I'm just going to watch y'all reviewing the show and episodes. It will make it more palatable.

[@MrCrippsPink]

I'll go out of my way to watch it illegaly for that reason. Also the shitty video quality will hopefully make this mess less insufferable

[@SoundEngraver]

Hate-watching is the success fuel of the decade. As long as they have your views, they have you. So, it's good you decided not to.

[@panicsnacks6882]

Same. I will not watch this garbage.

[@SoundEngraver]

@@MrCrippsPink Asking honestly, why bother watching it at all?

[@Kskage]

Oh hey, blame the fans... I've seen this episode before, it's where the thing flops and dies on arrival, because alienating customers is not how you do things... Whatever happened to "the customer is always right" I feel we need to put that back.

[@dudeguy8686]

Customer: "You ruined my meal, you owe me 1 million dollars"

[@Hivedragon]

Well the complete sentence was, 'The customers is always right in taste.' aka personal taste in how things look. But definitly apply to this dumpsterfire too.

[@georgejones5019]

"The customer is always right in matters of taste (subjectivity)." But the issue is that the woke crowd sees their worldview as factually correct.

[@MyAramil]

@Dante Rossini Because they are beginning to realize that calling people racist/sexist/transphobic does not help at all. and in most cases will hinder their product they are peddling.

[@armand9732]

Found the basement dweller

[@RobAryeeArc]

19:03 Claudia and Oz are right. Something set in Middle-Earth that is designed to be light hearted, non-canon, and fun could be very successful.

[@Fedorevsky]

Probably.

[@zeorhymer6]

Adaptation? What adaptation? Amazon doesn’t have the rights to any of the books. They made stuff up

[@timwhite2680]

Do not hate watch this show. The only way to ensure its total failure is to completely ignore jt

[@jraluark]

Teddy Roosevelt was on his way to a speech that he was giving when he got shot. He was seen by a doctor. The doctor told him he should go to the hospital. Then Teddy Roosevelt decided to give the speech anyway. One of my personal heroes.

[@박현기-b5i]

it's become customary to bad mouth the fans and movie goers after it fails, this is a new world record

[@Fedorevsky]

Yeah, really quick this time. Before it's even done with the build up, lol. How very progressive of them! Stunning and brave!

[@Krawurxus]

Good thing that I don't care at all about her opinion. In fact, there's absolutely nothing she can do to me while I, by boycotting this trash show and badmouthing it online, can at least do my part to hurt her future career prospects ever so slightly. The thing I'm looking forward to the most in connection with Rings of Power are the RT user ratings.

[@agonsfitness7308]

I fully expect RT to run defense for them just like with Cap Marvel and Solo.

[@Fedorevsky]

@@agonsfitness7308 And IMDB etc.

[@drewhalcro6082]

Do you know what would be fun to watch. A rogue group of Easterlings working with the rangers. Plenty of tension, plenty of story to work with and it can easily slot into the cannon without disrupting existing story.

[@lorddiethorn]

Or how they were trick into fight for you know the evil team

[@vernonhampton5863]

"If it ain't broke, don't break it" -One of my drill instructors from boot camp.

[@armandoalvarez5910]

Imagine their faces when they discover the books has been translated to 70 languajes and has been around the world before the internet and the world isn't made of just white american people

[@firewolf2930]

"There is no racial bigotry here." ... "Here you are all equally worthless." - Gunny Hartman

[@adamlewis6052]

Initially i felt bad for the actors. Because i was of the opinion that many of them had been looking forward to this all their life but now i have no sympathy because they are so high off of their own farts

[@gabgamerk.5270]

They arent actors, they're activists.

[@brickgarden]

Sadly I think some of them have ended their careers before they’ve even began

[@Fuzzycat16]

Hearing them speak? Yeah they mostly suck.

[@icecell]

Even if it's just to appease their overlords, I have no sympathy. It's very, very hard to feel sorry for people who are fishing for pity.

[@adamlewis6052]

@@icecell No truer word was spoken

[@sheenydonut]

The thing that bothers me the most about all this is that Nichelle Nichols just died a few weeks ago. All these actors and producers are too busy pretending like history started with them to say a word about Nichelle. If they were truly coming from a genuine place, they would honor the progress of the past instead of erasing it for their own personal benefit.

[@thatguyonthespectrum4894]

Modern marketing is done by mixing 1 part gaslighting,2 part racist accusations, and 2 parts of wokism. Mix using a swizzle stick made of rhetoric, and add camphor.

[@Fedorevsky]

That damn camphor.

[@thepunchableface1506]

All the marketing has been terrible and they are using the usual playbook to deflect criticism. I'll check out the show but it won't be via Amazon Prime. (Which I have) They are not getting my 'view'.

[@douglasarthur2673]

So the veneer slips, the pretence ends and their true thoughts are revealed. Stop giving these horrendous people your money.

[@georgejones5019]

Ah. History repeats itself, maybe they didn't learn from Obi-Wan? When met with critisism, resort to calling your customer base vile things such as racists, bigots, ist-a-phobes. People are fed up of them using these things as a defense. Oh yeah. I also love the "We resist!" But they're the establishment, they're the culture, etc.

[@MyAramil]

Or the 2016 ghostbusters movie, or the all female cast of oceans 11(I think it was called) or any of the other blatantly bad race/gender centric products they are peddling.

[@davidllamas2192]

When you are so concerned with seeing yourself in everything, you're not a fan of anything other than yourself.

[@Fedorevsky]

Narcissism 101

[@methosimortal]

the whole thing with hateful messages on the internet is that it simply comes with the territory. I'm sure the actress got some hateful messages. Then again, I'm sure everyone who has a significant degree of visibility on the internet gets hateful messages on a daily basis. it's just the nature of the medium. You're supposed to block those people and move on. Not paint yourself as some sort of martyr that the whole cast, crew and production team need to form a human shield around.

[@MyAramil]

Like Jacksepticeye is targeted by a group who is hellbent on sending him spam on his videos saying his dad who died not to long ago is in hell burning and deserves to be there.

[@nothing-of5yc]

@@MyAramil I never heard of that tell me more.

[@doctor_gibbo1392]

"So Sophie, tell me about your character." "She's black and she's a dwarf. It's fantastic." "Yes but what about her character, her story arc, her personality, what challenges will your character face?" "She's black and she's a dwarf. This is amazing."

[@MegaPokefan97]

Evil cannot create. Amazon doesn't let their employees pee

[@thelordofgifts5343]

I actually am pretty racist, but it’s only a small fraction why I hate the show. I hate it because it’s objectively trash

[@mikestanmore2614]

When Henry Cavill's cast as Cetewayo in the remake of Zulu, I'll believe these activists.

[@tuomashuuhtanen8680]

South Africa has 7,9 % white and 2,6 % asian population, so a little representation is certainly needed there. All black Zulus could make those poor whiteys and asians feel like they don't belong.

[@Texastentialist-ls9kz]

The downside is that actual examples of racism gets lost in the fray.

[@Korschtal]

I work in social care and we have very little time for "Activists". Come to that, they have very little interest in us and our clients: they want to attract people who are already fairly privileged and wealthy to join their belief system and help their "cause".

[@amyb.6368]

Well, of course. The real poor don't have the resources to pay them for their ideology.

[@Korschtal]

@@amyb.6368 Exactly. They can also see through the nonsense because they are at the receiving end, and wouldn't be shy in pointing it out. I suspect most "Activists" would be terrified of actually meeting my clients.

[@Seallussus]

This has become the default answer to everything. It's just sad. When was the last time you heard about a show that just had a story. Action or comedy, drama or science fiction...etc Nope. Every single show has to be a crusade against flavor of the week evil.

[@knightofarnor2552]

Bullet Train.

[@deltamico]

Nicely put

[@hx20games77]

@@knightofarnor2552 the best example

[@bocagoodtimes1460]

Name calling doesn’t change facts…..they ruined it.

[@captaindemobeard9560]

If people say "We Resist", Respond with "Without Respect, We Reject!" (Quote from Overlord Dictor Van Doomcock)

[@zerg6001]

“Black people can’t swim” *black navy seals swimming into the night

[@Is_This_Really_Necessary]

"Your opinion of me is none of my business" It's a more elaborate way of saying "I don't care what you say about me", and it usually stops the other party in their tracks as they try to figure out what it means.

[@donpietruk1517]

I learned this in recovery. It's made my life a heck of a lot easier.

[@warbossgrotsmasha23]

me: this show looks awful Amazon: you're a racist! me: ok Amazon: give me your money you bigot! me: nope *shuts down the computer and goes to re-read the lord of the rings*

[@Anyone_Else_Think]

I like my version of the saying, “if it ain’t broke, don’t brake it!”.

[@admirekashiri6651]

I hate when people causally throw that word around. I'm black I dont want to see any of our actors tokenized in forced diversity and representation BS. This is not representation its tokenism plain and simple. Tolkien's world is white his characters are all white, oh well I don't care! I focus on the story, lore and characters not what they look like. Either respect his writing or leave it alone. To make matters worse there are fantasy stories with real authentic natural representation to which race is an after thought. Despite this they constantly ignore these stories to milk off classic and more European centered IPs like LOTR, it's so pathetic. Honestly indie studios and products seem to be the future of entertainment screw Hollywood.

[@Hivedragon]

Agreed, for example there are so many tales in Africa that I would love to see movies/series from. Or the ones from Mexico. I would also say Asia, but they got that basically covered.

[@admirekashiri6651]

@@Hivedragon Exactly as an African history enthusiast I know plenty of them and also fantasies based around them. Like I said indie is the future there are indie studios I know working on projects centered on some of these stories, like Komotions Studios is working on a 3d film about the Orisha (god) of Thunder Sango.

[@Hivedragon]

@@admirekashiri6651 Uoh now that is A nice tibit of info there, thank you for the heads-up. Also maybe you can help me out. When I was little I saw A cartoon based on A African tale I dont remember much but what I can remember it was about A small boy saving his villiage from A witch who's power came from A thorne in her back, but that made her evil. Dont know if that is enough to able to get the name of that tale?

[@admirekashiri6651]

@@Hivedragon You're welcome there are more mind you from indie studios, some have made deals woth big companies like Disney and Warner Bros. One is called Iwaju being adapted by Disney Plus, and Iyanu Child of wonder being adapted by Cartoon Network. As for the Cartoon you're talking about, that sounds like Kirikou and the Sorceress, I've not seen it myself but heard it wa good.

[@annamiau8116]

No, the saying goes like this: "If it aint broke, dont go woke."

[@EnsignRedshirtRicky]

She most likely only fetched coffee, so this is her way of "being important".

[@decay79]

The Star Wars account has almost 6 mil followers if memmory serve, even if Moses got 100's, heck even if she got 1000's of stupid comments, that's is not even a single % of the fans following that account. The argument of racist, biggots etc. is constantly used, these last few years it has become more and more common, and it is simply an excuse to ignore and drown out actual fair critique of terrible writing/directing/acting.

[@stealthimaster8583]

I remember a time when you could watch a show and say it sucked and quit and you would move on with your life and so did the people who made the terrible show and they did their best not to do it again or just never hired again.

[@DarknessProphet]

Multi-billion corporation: "We resist." You can't be more establishment if you tried!

[@ChrisP872]

About Ewan McGregor: Even if he thought the actress was getting legit "wacist" comments what makes him think he has the power to determine who is and isn't a "Star Wars fan" and why should they give a f*ck? When did adults become a bunch of babies and why do we think it's OK? [When I was a kid in the 80s if someone said something racist they'd get an insult back sometimes with a punch in the nose. That's better than everyone crying and moaning about things like they do today. Oh no! Someone's mean or an idiot. Let's ALL do SOMETHING about it. What a load of sh*t. How about correct or ignore the idiot and get on with things?] When did adults decide they can shape reality with their thoughts, opinions, and feelings? It's pathetic and infantile.

[@zoch9797]

It's literally childish behavior. That's the point. Media and entertainment want to perpetuate eternal childhood, because children clap at silly things and want to buy toys. People aren't having babies anymore, so they need to extend the longevity of childhood for that sweet sweet merchandising revenue from a new generation that doesn't exist.

[@totalldwarf640]

Disney didn't speak out about fin being shrunk on thr poster becuasd fin did that intentionally.

[@mr.s2005]

Attacking the fans before the series is even out....is such a great strategy, for ensuring their series will fail.

[@FBAKTdaGoat]

As a black guy and this my first watching of the channel I love you guys honesty and agree with dude in the middle.. People are just TOO sensitive now.. Like seriously the weirdest stuff is the black cast members SUCK they're killing tf out of my childhood with "diversity and inclusion".. I see LOTR I see a bunch of white people doing cool shit, I see Black Panther and think African mfs kicking fucking up white people who hate black people but also working with white people sometimes.. I see Ariel and see a white woman and look at Ironheart and feel sadness they think even black people will be cool with that trash shit.. These corpos need to stop acting like we want to have parts in shit we dgaf about.. I don't wanna see a Black professor X or a Woman being hulk more than hulk (Yes I'm talking about this terrible she hulk adaptation) I wanna see good shit.. Not "inclusive" or "diverse" shit.. They need to stop with this bs..

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

Remember with Kelly Marie Tran as Rose Tico I recall that a majority of the criticism was with the writing of her character an not actually herself Also with John Boyega he used to toe the line wit lh disney Lucasfilm Until I think he realised we were annoyed at the writing for him an how he had been an interesting character which the writers squandered He was so also annoyed he left the script for rise of Skywalker where it could be found 😂

[@cuddlemuffin44]

I sense that the thumbnail game is going to be getting a lot more creative from here on out.

[@christianefiorito3204]

Ok, I am a racist? Cancelled my pfime subscription today. They ask you for the reason in a little box and I wrote I do not like to be called racist as a customer.

[@wilwelaltijd]

Amazons new quote “if it ain’t broke…..break it”. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@Blencathra1]

If they think I'm a racist for wanting a Tolkien adaptation to be faithful to what Tolkien wrote then so be it. I simply don't care. The epithet is meaningless these days. All it means is "a name to call someone I don't agree with because I'm too stupid to think of anything else". This show is rubbish and nothing will change my mind.

[@droe2570]

They don't actually think you're racist. They are trying to shame you. They are collectivists, and use shame on one another to control wayward members of the collective. However, if you are not a member of their collective, they can't shame you. In fact, attempts to shame you backfire, because being called this or that buzzword becomes a symbol of truth, or at the very least, a sign that says you are affecting them in ways they do not like.

[@Hivedragon]

Heck I think A lot of us/them dont care anymore what we/them are being called now. It has lost its meaning very quickly.

[@RedHood001-KA]

Honestly? Classic excuse. While there are probably some legitimate racist hate, that doesn't justify the legitimate critics and concerns being raised by those who are aware of the lore breaking. This is typical deflection at its finest, and then they'll blame us for the series/movie doing bad because we don't watch it.

[@ardendragoon]

Come on. We started it by, pointing out the black dwarf(makes me laugh every time, how do you get black people living underground, there is no sun) has no beard. Escalated it when the cast barfed all over themselves with the "message". First female dwarf(laugh) ever seen on any medium Oh wait. They did that.

[@aesir1ases64]

Exactly, we have seen this too many times by this point.

[@RedHood001-KA]

@@ardendragoon Yeah, they're really not selling this well for themselves. I'm cynical enough to think that the show will still garner an audience (to each their own I suppose) but I wonder if people will look back and still sing the same tune. To my knowledge, these types of media don't often age very well. The Obi-Wan show certainly had mixed results by the end of it (I could only name a few relatively good scenes but that's it).

[@Fedorevsky]

@@RedHood001-KAWouldn't be too far fetched to thin this is all done on purpose I think. And this is exactly the reaction they want to be able to start with the name calling. You see this same weird self defeating strategy play out over and over and you wonder...

[@RedHood001-KA]

@@Fedorevsky Exactly. I'm just tired of it all, dude. It's always the same excuse over and over and over again.

[@MrNottocd]

One of the things I've come to understand by interacting online is that for every belief there is a person that believes that. Look at people that believe the Earth is flat. I am of the belief that it's OK to let people believe whatever they want to believe. What I don't like is when opinions are enforced. So, just let everyone believe what they want to believe, the only hurt a person feels because someone believes differently, is that person's choice to feel hurt.

[@MrBillclintin]

One thing the producers of ring of power still hasn't presented is some kind of story. We know the show won't be based of Tolkien, but it could still be a ok show. But they will rather spend time attacking fans Tolkien then present a story, so how what should make us expect anything but a terrible adaption of Tolkien combined with a stupid story. It is not my job as a potential customer to build expectations.

[@MyAramil]

Considering the fact they have just more or less stated "we have a diverse cast, look at me I am a black female dwarf, isn't that amazing? we also have harfoots, tolkien merely said HOBBITS had not significant role in the 2nd age, not harfoots! Look at Warrior galadriel! isn't she amazing?" So far we do not even have a story synopsis or anything about the series.

[@MrBillclintin]

@@MyAramil the interesting thing is that the series I officially based on the second age, so we should know something about the story based on that fact alone. But because we know they don't follow cannon, this also means we no nothing about the story. Everything they do is and have done so far is stupid.

[@Cani-Gulah]

Racist calling YOU the racist for pointing out their racism

[@XanKreigor]

I bet that showing "FATAL" the tabletop game to these people would give them an aneurysm. Because THAT setting is racist from the ground up.

[@christianbusch5499]

Ewan MacGregor using the “No True Scotsman” fallacy is peak irony.

[@unclechair2208]

the asumption from this tittle that those producers ,,think" is offensive

[@Itoyokofan]

Have you noticed, how "more diversity" made shows less diverse?

[@TechnoMinarchist]

These companies have investors who only grant them money if they are promote certain ideas. That's why they behave like this, to get the money.

[@TechnoMinarchist]

It's called ESG investing.

[@Cnyloth]

"Not to intermarry racially is bad for the survival of the country." - Nicholas Sarkozy, President of France 2007-2012 "There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states." - Wesley Clark, U.S. Army General The west needs to realize that we got enemies that want to hurt us and we need to act accordingly to remove these threats from our lives, together!

[@rio20d]

"I do earnestly hope that in the assignment of actual speeches to the characters they will be represented as I have presented them: in style and sentiment. I should resent perversion of the characters." - J.R.R. Tolkien

[@vincenthammons6705]

When they call me a racist I consider that a badge of honor these days.

[@charlestownsendfilms]

I got a real "Underground Railroad" vibe from the not hobbit harfoot in the ROP preview. I wonder if they're going to have them be freed slaves?

[@MrROTD]

Next time I make a mistake at work Ill just claim that I have a competence deficiency and the customer is insensitive and hateful.

[@eduardweber2097]

I hope that Disney, Amazon and all the other Monopoles continue this trant until they go bankrupt.

[@pontusvongeijer1240]

They could cast Robert Downey jr to play black panther. :3

[@StoneCorazon]

I never thought I’d hear the cast quote 36 Mafia, but here we are. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

[@erurainon6842]

They are dedsperate and trying to blame anyone else for their failure.

[@1ndragunawan]

Who can play as Black Panther? Obviously Robert Downey Jr.

[@Darek_B52]

If it's his character from Tropic Thunder I'd unironically watch BP2

[@MsMartinMuses]

They punch fans with the racists card just when it’s coming out that Galadriel will be cheating on her husband

[@dxmxrxsbxxckthxwxxdxlf3931]

One good outcome that is being made by this dumpster fire of a show is that there are many small short film producers who will be lifted up and thrive because of Woke Hollywood

[@matthewmekonis1790]

It is like The Mummy Returns character where they point and say it’s racist instead of it’s cursed.

[@ASilyFromSomewhere]

I love you three. Great entertainment. Amazing show.

[@Osmanovich]

As a 100% black African guy... I wish to watch a show without any political massages or gender and ethnicity issues.. The FIRST BLACK FEMALE DWORF lady really made me depressed 😞 it's like nothing is even watchable on the TV ..

[@budsak7771]

I was telling my wife last night that they came out swinging the victim card right from the start. That was supposed to be the trump card and they didn't play it right. Playing a trap card with nothing to trap is null and void. 🤣

[@dennisstratton8239]

They just summoned a bunch of activists in one turn! But that's against the rules isn't it?!

[@budsak7771]

@@dennisstratton8239 Rules? In their mind, there are no rules.

[@samburke3324]

For people who aren't racist or don't care about race Knights Watch sure spends a lot of time talking about race, and worrying about which race is in which show. Maybe the excuse is: "the actors and producers and show runners all talk about and are obsessed with race". So that's a good excuse for Knights Watch to be obsessed with race? Why are Knights Watch so concerned about "activists" talking about and criticizing racism if they're not racist? You'd think they'd focus on their legitimate criticisms of the show (which hasn't come out yet), and not be concerned with all the talk about race? Assuming they're not racist. It's funny, the only people worried about being called racist for criticizing the show are the people with a history of being/being called racist.

[@philipbutler6608]

Is princes Diesel related to Bombur?

[@billy65bob]

3:17 I will never not think of the meme... *character profile:* ginger *Hollywood:* I'm Dyslexic!

[@horatiussonofrome812]

Easterlings and Haradrim will be played by white people lmao

[@ChrisP872]

Amazon says these race swaps are not only OK but they're great. Well, I don't like it! It's too limited. Let's make it EVEN GREATER! I demand every third actor be Chinese! Also, in the interest of language diversity they should speak Chinese too!

[@Golghrom]

And make them medieval nazis, you know, diversity

[@cartallus]

It's supposed to be Amazon Prime, but the realisation is in fact from Wish.

[@ardendragoon]

The most racismus text i saw, about reeeva, was from a black dude. So. was it really racismus. Hilarious.

[@blankadams3120]

Galadriel in the Peter Jackson movies called it: "All shall love me and despair!" If she had the Ring.

[@Vuntermonkey]

Thank you for being a gateway out of the matrix.

[@n4m31355h4dow]

14:13 funny thing, this show who was suppose to be feminist, most of the thing the main character accomplish was in real life done by a man and the real woman who was a champion at the time have already beat 59 men while the show say she never play against a man in tournament

[@firewolf2930]

My wife got swept up in a blm march while biking home from work in nyc. With headphones on, she unknowingly turned into a sea of people marching up 1st ave and called me kinda shook. I put on my most American apparel and went walking to meet her just in case anything kicked off. Guys in the crowd were yelling into a bullhorn, "undercover cops are wearing yellow armbands". I was relieved to have changed out my U Mich bandana for a USA hat. Turns out they were marching to DeBlasio's house, Gracie Mansion, to yell at him. He wasn't even home that day.

[@ikesc6773]

We all knew this was coming as soon as the show was announced...