Rings Of Power Season 2: A Soulless Disaster

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[@BigNickTx]

"failing to heed the words of TLC, and chasing waterfalls" LMAO somebody help me

[@FeliPeltier]

This show is such garbage

[@scottgun00]

Wow. Flashing the dialog on the screen really maximizes the cringe.

[@christaylor7079]

Imagine reading that in a script and saying it with a straight face while looking at another actor

[@christaylor7079]

This show almost feels like it’s made as a parody to mock how bad Hollywood has gotten

[@ffelegal]

It really does 😂

[@MattPurvis-gt3ww]

......its just that brilliant!

[@user-ef5ug6jx5n]

Really? To me it feels like the mask is of and (((they))) are just going full bore weimar out in the open.

[@HumanHamCube]

Is it worst if people tried and it ended up this bad?

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

I'm so glad that I watched the first season (when it was new) of Amazon's Wheel of Time before the first season of *this* dumpster fire dropped like 💩 in a swimming pool. I *knew* not to watch this thing... except by watching my fav. YT'ers roast it.

[@lwzeis]

This dialog was written by someone who literally farts into a wine glass and huffs it. You can’t convince me otherwise.

[@briancolwill3071]

I can convince you otherwise. It was written by someone who literally shits into a champagne glass and drinks it

[@markos916]

Your comments paint quite a picture!

[@OneRedKraken]

@@lwzeis This. This has to be true.

[@pheebsbee1280]

😄

[@rumo510]

I reckon there's some queefing into champagne flutes happening, as well

[@corycrandell2682]

Isn't it a violation of the Geneva convention to torture those poor metaphors like that? This is insufferable....

[@atlanta2076]

«You wish everybody dies horribly.» Sums up the entire show! 🤣🤣🤣

[@nocgenius5255]

Just came here to say how great season 2 is, season 1 was a mixed bag but wow is season 2 an upgrade. This guy is a grifter who doesn't believe anything he's actually saying. Just wants to make money off you

[@dean_l33]

@@nocgenius5255 Can you clarify more than that? Cause you're looking awfully like the Amazon bots after the fallout tvshow

[@WarPicturesEntertainment]

​@@nocgenius5255I will believe you when I no longer see the lie behind your eyes!

[@thenapalmbrothershq5585]

hear hear.

[@JoeOvercoat]

@@nocgenius5255 That post leads with a lie, or it would have stopped right there. Meanwhile, nothing like damning a show with faint praise, but there it is.

[@chasehedges6775]

I remember trying to watching the first episode of S1 and then turning it off in the first few minutes. Rings of Power is truly one of the shows ever.

[@TheMarkieGoodBoy]

Same. After Galadriel took down the troll with gleeful ease I lost all interest.

[@professorhaystacks6606]

Didn't watch it. Watched a review of ep 1, realized it ended with 1000+ year old Galadriel jumping off a ship in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean with no plan for how to not die and nope'd out. There's a difference between impulsive and stupid, and that act showed the writers did not understand that.

[@scottporter4524]

Yes, it's truly one of the shows ever.

[@jarchack]

@@TheMarkieGoodBoy That was so cringe worthy, I yelled at the television and shut off the show for good. I'm surprised I actually made it that far.

[@someguy5334]

@@scottporter4524 Definitely up there with the shows ever. Maybe the actual one.

[@thekataphraktoi2197]

Your “fucking bollocks” could eclipse the Critical Drinker’s “Go away now!”

[@Charlie-m6r5v]

You could combine them.

[@nicholasdelaney1407]

Most of what the characters say in the show is mindless shit...

[@chasehedges6775]

💯One of the mindless shows ever made.

[@nocgenius5255]

Just came here to say how great season 2 is, season 1 was a mixed bag but wow is season 2 an upgrade. This guy is a grifter who doesn't believe anything he's actually saying. Just wants to make money off you

[@serenafury5786]

It's like children trying to sound adult with pretentious and empty dialogues.

[@user-ef5ug6jx5n]

Thine characters in yon show doth verily haveth mouths akin to the backsideth of a beasth, forsooth none but crap doesth thine emittithey Me am big time shakespeare writer me am work amazon me am LoTR head writer please me am compliment me writing now yes.

[@pigpuke]

@@user-ef5ug6jx5n Still a better love story than Twilight.

[@TwoTonePictures]

That people got paid to write and direct that shit just makes me pissing mad

[@HumanHamCube]

AND they went on strike to get paid more

[@O6i]

Orcs that dont want to war because they have wives and kids

[@yurikendal4868]

What???? Maybe in a tsr universe but warcraft and Tolkien....NO!

[@MattPurvis-gt3ww]

Made me think of an orc "Family Matters" tv show for some reason.

[@sebthelobster]

Look at the quality of this writing and these writers have the audacity to go on a strike.

[@TaoScribble]

Right? It feels like they went on strike because they couldn't prove they deserved raises.

[@yurikendal4868]

Well they are upset AI could replace them. Well no, it can't. AI uses their garbage but with more creative words and at a faster rate and uses more resources. It takes truly a human touch to blow this level of chunkery on purpose

[@thenapalmbrothershq5585]

Face it, entertainment is dead until this generation of 'writers' is retired.

[@MattPurvis-gt3ww]

..... you think their kids will be any better? 🤔

[@user-ef5ug6jx5n]

Whoa. Cool it with the anti-semitism!

[@Puma5]

@@MattPurvis-gt3wwTimes might have become harsher by then so their children’s character can be shaped by more suffering and life experience. So we can have great literature and scripts again.

[@j-mc5201]

@@thenapalmbrothershq5585 it’s actually tragic. What’s more tragic is I had to pay $3 to “Rent” Jonah Hex from 2010 as I sold my dvd collection Yonks Ago.

[@thenapalmbrothershq5585]

@@MattPurvis-gt3ww The pendulum always swings on these things, the 80's yuppies were a result of the flower power bs that came before.

[@AshishShrivastava-q6i]

It’s interesting that the reviewers are no longer focusing on deviations from the source material. The show is so, so, so, far off that it’s not even worthwhile mentioning that. (In this example the 3 Elven rings were never sullied by Sauron. They were never a corrupting influence. The elves made them to help them focus their energies on preserving their realms in Middle Earth) Now the critics have moved on to just evaluating the show on a standalone basis and it is still total crap! Theee guys are trying to write original fantasy set in Tolkien’s universe and are learning very rapidly, much to our collective misery, that fantasy writing is a serious genre and is hard.

[@adam-k]

The issue never was that the show deviates from the source material. Let's face it unless you are a Tolkien nerd you don't know or care about the source material. The issue is and always was that the writing, directing and acting (along with casting, costumes) in this show is shit. And not a firm healthy log but a yellowish frothing liquid kind of shit.

[@sebastiengaboulaud8196]

The quotes are so awful that they gave the urge to throw myself in a well, even if I have to dig the well first.

[@mrburton8842]

And I'll lend you my shovel. I live in New Zealand, but I'll happily swim to you.

[@brianradant2885]

ChatGPT has more personality and authenticity than the writers for this show.

[@thenapalmbrothershq5585]

hahaha

[@monicad99]

written by an AI. Title: Shadows of Doubt Setting: A quiet glade in Rivendell, twilight casting long shadows among the trees. Galadriel stands with her arms crossed, a fierce glint in her eye. Elrond approaches, his brow furrowed with concern. ELROND: (calmly) Galadriel, you must let go of these fears. Sauron is gone. The age of darkness has passed. GALADRIEL: (intensely) You do not understand, Elrond. I have seen the shadows he casts, even in the light of day. ELROND: (firmly) What you saw was the past. We have endured countless trials. We cannot be haunted by what was. GALADRIEL: (stepping closer) You think I speak of the past? I speak of the present! His malice still lingers. I have felt it stirring in the depths. ELROND: (sighing) You are burdened by your visions. They cloud your judgment. GALADRIEL: (voice rising) My judgment is clearer than yours! I have witnessed the whispers of his return, the darkness gathering beyond the horizon. ELROND: (pained) You risk your sanity by chasing shadows. GALADRIEL: (passionately) And you risk our very lives by dismissing them! I know what I have seen, Elrond. We must prepare, or we shall fall. (A heavy silence settles between them, the weight of their opposing beliefs palpable.)

[@AlexD-os8hw]

Even the media are starting to say that these new shows suck. It's been 10 long years. We still have a little way to go, but finally, there is light beyond the darkness. Just look up at it... so you can float rather than sink.

[@takuid]

these TV shows are sinky cause they look down into darkness?...

[@AlexD-os8hw]

@@takuid Do you know why the critic's score floats, but the audience score cannot?

[@htsjunkbucket1364]

😂😂

[@takuid]

@@AlexD-os8hw You are saying if I look at shiny sky and float like a boat....I can be a critic?

[@peterk.rosenthal1417]

These dialogue quotes are absolutely amazing. These are the writers the most expensive show around employs.

[@darktenor4967]

The rings of power is like a gently glistering rod of radioactive Uranium. From the distance of sight it glows like a pretty firefly in a fuliginous cavern, and one may remember the costliness of its forging, yet come close, and the true sickening influence of its grim confluence shall make itself felt.

[@gregorygregson3238]

Nice one. I hope tortured metaphors and similes become a thing. Here's mine: "As a brief mistral issues from a cleft in a barren coast, these denizens of Middle Earth seemingly have naught to speak but the wind and thunder from their nether cheeks."

[@darktenor4967]

@@gregorygregson3238 Truly, the reflection of the word building of those who so unerringly crafted the dialogue of this puissant series, is as the reflection seen in the obsequious surface of a stagnant and turgid pool, in which all manner of creatures have deposited the life giving and pungent soil from those nether regents you yourself so recently elided to.

[@Darkstar-se6wc]

Nicely done - you ou should apply to write for the show!

[@darktenor4967]

@@Darkstar-se6wc For your words I offer you thank you. However, I cannot apply to write for the show. There is a blockage in me! The stony blockage which prevents my joining the ranks of the esteemed rings of powers as a stony wall prevents the flow of a swiftly sparkling spring. That faculty called self-respect!

[@j-mc5201]

@@gregorygregson3238 😂

[@30noir]

They REDO 'Sauron on a raft at sea'? They are just taking the piss at this point.

[@TaoScribble]

They spent all that money on the water tank, so I guess they wanted to get some use out of it.

[@yurikendal4868]

An opening flash back? Just in the second season? What kind of garbage is this???

[@uninhibition31]

Jeff Bezos should be ashamed of himself and Jennifer Salke needs to be fired.

[@Darkstar-se6wc]

I hope Bezos’ son never forgives him ….

[@billypratt4201]

Bleeding tampon quota hire requirements is a illegal racketeering crime........ Never support 304's....... Your son's deserve better........

[@huhhuhhuh4069]

It’s so badly written, it borders on parody

[@crazyralph6386]

Yep, they’re trying soooo hard to sound Tolkien, it’s embarrassing

[@blockboygames5956]

Thank you for giving me the story without having to watch this show.

[@nocgenius5255]

Just came here to say how great season 2 is, season 1 was a mixed bag but wow is season 2 an upgrade. This guy is a grifter who doesn't believe anything he's actually saying. Just wants to make money off you

[@sirlionheart4614]

How braindead are you?​@@nocgenius5255

[@Puma5]

@@nocgenius5255How selfless of you. 😂

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@@nocgenius5255 I hope Amazon paid you well.

[@MattPurvis-gt3ww]

*"This Rings of Power show sucks."* *- The Sea*

[@biotrekker]

They present Sauron as a sympathetic "bad boy" character from "Twilight" that is wavering between good and evil (and might have PTSD) whereas, by this time in the saga, he is irredeemably and happily evil. The model for Sauron should be a master villain, manipulating others like chess pieces from behind the scenes, like Francis Urquhart from the British version of 'House of Cards', or Emperor Palpatine from the Prequels or Tywin Lannister from 'Game of Thrones'. If you wanted to do a conflicted Sauron, you would have to go way back to his corruption by Morgoth, or do Morgoth himself (why not?) which could have been a Twilight of the Gods or even a 'Clash of The Titans' kind of thing. Adar is superfluous, but if you must have him, he could have been trying to subvert Sauron to gain power himself as a side plot (like GoT), but he would not be able to outwit the master manipulator.

[@lRedPosion]

The only thing I'm grateful for in this show are the ridiculous quotes that are supposed to sound grandiose. My favourite one being: "A dog (wolf?) may bark at the moon, but he cannot bring it down" -Durin the Dumb

[@aithjawcraig9876]

It's absolutely insane. Is that what these people think LOTR is? People standing around delivering random truisms in purple prose?

[@joelpenley9791]

“Give me the meat, and give it to me raw!”

[@rclaws3230]

@@aithjawcraig9876 Yes, they don't understand themes. They are EXCEPTIONALLY literal and pedantic, so when it comes to composing aphorisms and metaphor with multiple levels of meaning and depth, they can't.

[@user-ef5ug6jx5n]

"A man with a small brain my often confuse it for a bigger one much akin to the squrrel who forgets how big the nut he buried last summer was. Both are surprised to find themselves short when their bellies are empty." -Amazon head writer, weimar division.

[@wolftal1178]

This really is the worst JRR Tolkien adaption ever! In fact, it’s an insult to associate him and his work with this show!

[@Natusian]

The "fucking bollocks" at the end got me a lot more than I expected. 😅

[@Arominit]

Humanity peaked, we’re in managed decline 💩

[@revgregory]

You're a stronger man than I, about fifteen minutes into episode one of session two and I was done. I slogged through season one, I can't do it again. I was, however, amazed at how in such a short time they managed to reinforce in my mind the worst flaws of the writing from the first season. The entire Adar/Sauron struggle session, How does it advance the plot? It doesn't. Wasted screen time, we already know that Adar thought he killed Sauron and seeing it added nothing. The energy burst when Sauron "died" was dumb, obviously a memberberry to the similar burst when Isildur cut the Ring from Sauron's hand. But that burst only occurred because Isildur severed the part of Sauron's anima in the Ring from that which was in his corporeal form. He hadn't dealt a mortal blow to Sauron in any way and the death of his physical form was caused by the resulting burst, it didn't create it. Then we have several minutes of Sauron regaining his corporeal form. Why? I don't know. Sauron regaining his power after the encounter with Isildur had nothing to do with creating a physical form, it was about the part of his anima that was dispersed by the energy burst when the Ring was cut from his hand coalescing over time. I guess they thought it would look neat to do it visually and these days with CGI it's easy to just think something up and send it off to an animation studio along with a wheelbarrow full of cash without really thinking about whether it adds anything meaningful to the production. Sauron regaining his power in the PJ films was accomplished with a few lines here and there about darkness in the east and goblins with the occasional visual of dark clouds underlit with flames and/or lightning. Those mere few seconds accomplished everything that the many minutes and hundreds of thousands of dollars of effects (if not millions) did, and how it occurred was filled in by the imaginations of each individual watching. You cannot visually show the essence of what Sauron's resurgence entails, having its seriousness and horror depicted via the reaction of others is far more effective. The lack of understanding of the latter by the writers and show runners of ROP is its greatest downfall. That sequence then led to the rehash of the absolutely ridiculous ocean/raft sequence from season one. Did we need to see Sauron steal the sigil from the old man? Did we need to see Sauron treated with kindness only to turn on those who helped him? Did we need to see the sea monster refuse to attack him? This view of that event from a slightly different perspective added nothing to what we know of Sauron. We know he's fundamentally evil, we know he's duplicitous, we know he's self serving, we know that the sigil he was carrying wasn't his. A ton of screen time and very expensive CGI to tell us what we already know, and to remind us of the utter stupidity of Galadriel swimming across the ocean and the unlikeliness of meeting Sauron there. Yep...totally done with this season right there. I can't do it to myself again.

[@OneRedKraken]

Were these "witty lines" generated from a really bad LLM? I can't believe a human wrote that, and that it was reviewed by a group of humans who all agreed they were good lines.

[@ERH-ph5gb]

maybe the writers used help from AI. LoL

[@yurikendal4868]

They have to be paid off

[@tjimicole2677]

These metaphors are exactly what you would expect someone who has never actually read Tolkien to think Tolkien wrote like. He really didn't use metaphors in his characters' speech much, and when he did it was much more relatable, drawing us into the world through our ability to imagine actually experiencing the metaphor ("like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow"). The Rings of Power does the opposite, pushing us away by the alien nature of the metaphor.

[@reyneskipper]

Did the writers understood the books? This show is a joke

[@Darkstar-se6wc]

They didn’t even understand that there can only be one Durin at a time. SMH

[@morsmagne]

No, the writers don’t understand the books. They’ve made the orcs ‘human’ so the mechanics of that world don’t stand a chance of working.

[@michaellanger5671]

I am so glad this show exists….it will gives us hours of quality entertainment dished out by all the good reviews….by The Drinker, EC, TLP, Nerdrotic and many others….Thank you Jeff…one billion well spend

[@adamheywood113]

Random Film Talk, too

[@MrsMacLover]

RoP remains amateurishly bad on every level. You can tell it was made without love. No love for the lore or even for TV/Cinema.

[@Puma5]

All has come to vain ambition!

[@SLEEPTHIEFofficial]

This sh#t is just awful. I mean, is NO ONE involved in this project even watching how bad this stuff is. Writing is terrible, acting is lame, sets and CGI go from decent to terribly fake. I am just so confused by how this could have gone so wrong.

[@PalaeoClive237]

Example number 11,289 of the detrimental effect of prioritising postmodern identity politics within an entertainment setting. See also nearly every other beloved TV and film franchise of the last two decades.

[@crazyralph6386]

Yep, they’ll never learn

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

8:25 Do the writers think harps ever play melodies of their choosing?

[@nobilismaximus]

The rolling rrrrrrs are annoying, and I’m Scottish….. it’s almost good. Like coke zero is almost coke if you just had a diet coke…

[@шатранкедровский]

Rumour is the studio pushed for Venom to be included. Originally only Sandman and the Green Goblin would be the villains

[@hariseldon3786]

No! You are incorrect in your assertion at 4:00 - we are taught a sincere and glorious message ! Let us eat bugs!!!

[@mxvega1097]

Yes. Nori and the Stranger own nothing, and will be happy. (The script says so).

[@TheBigdutchster]

I'm glad that you mentioned somethingh about the soundtrack, which is bloody awful. The whole thing is just as misguided as season-1.

[@isrisentoday]

The series is still salvageable, all it needs is to have written screaming sound effects like the TV 1960s Batman - "KAPOOM", "BUNK", "POW", "BOING" etc.

[@twown]

For the love of God, everyone please stop saying "literally" all the time. Even Echo is catching this perfidious disease.

[@judge_mental3251]

If they brought this out under a different title you'd probably not know that this was Tolkien's work. And this aint even Lord of the rings, Peter Jackson covered that. Its just so disrespectful, they should be ashamed. Like vandalising a great piece of art. Acolyte vs LOTR for woke olympics first place.

[@reek4062]

PJ did not cover the Lord of the Rings.

[@troffle]

A salute and applause for the simple yet powerful term, "Mid earth".

[@IanConnel]

I would hate to have you go after me. You're hilarious and brutal and accurate. Lol, keep it coming sir

[@timeweston]

The orc daddy being reluctant to go to war for fear of abandoning his orc wife and orc baby. ' Through all the cringe, boredom and offense to Tolkien...this made me laugh out loud. The writers' of this show are seriously impaired.

[@kaleygirl]

The same people that wrote this bilge unironically said that the eagles could've just flown them to modor

[@yurikendal4868]

No. NO! The eagles helped when they could but I believe the eagles understood the nature of what the war of the ring was. They would have been killed by the ring wraiths with a ring bearer in tow.

[@rubymatt]

i cant tell you how glad i am that i get to listen to you rip it, rather than having to slog through it myself. Kudos.

[@j-mc5201]

Nice plastic rings Amazon. Did you buy those from Amazon?

[@yurikendal4868]

A Halloween shop

[@Darkstar-se6wc]

A gumball machine.

[@j-mc5201]

@@Darkstar-se6wc hahaha. 👌

[@davidrowntree8250]

I cannot describe just how good Echo has become. I literally giggle through most of his videos now. I fucking love this guy.

[@morsmagne]

I wonder if they’ll include the line “Everything happens for a reason”!

[@lars68764]

This show is one big middle finger to the Tolkien estate.

[@yurikendal4868]

It's to us all

[@littlebilly8747]

I think woefully generic music is one of the things that has turned modern entertainment into "content" rather than the art it used to be. Nothing made nowadays will ever be classic, because nothing is memorable (most of it is actually horrible, but even the decent stuff has no real transcendent and unique identity of its own)

[@adde27]

I fucking hate this... mockery... of the story.

[@ArtfulDodger566]

Amazon learning that money cant buy you class

[@billypratt4201]

Just like the Toronto Blue Jays........

[@alanquinn9845]

Vague and pretentious are the dialogues of such fantasy which is like a doughnut that lakes the decency to taste delicious.

[@mmluon]

That line about the songbird and rumors broke my brain. Good Lord. What group of junior high school poetry students wrote that banger?

[@dougmccarter3809]

At the end of Peter Jackson’s last Hobbit movie, accompanying the credits, the audience was treated to a gallery of gorgeous sketches of landscapes, architecture, characters and costumes. These included design drawings of the ring, exquisitely rendered, Elven inscriptions and all, faithful to Tolkien’s description of this awesome yet far from ornate object at the center of an epic tale. By contrast, Amazon brings us Elven “rings of power” which look like they emerged from a plastic egg that came out of a gumball machine. Perhaps they were ordered from a cosplay accessory vender on Amazon. The word “cheesy” barely scratches the surface. First, Halibrand has to inform the Elve’s master metal-smith that metals can be alloyed, something he has obviously never heard of. Then Dumblebimbobor , needing only the very finest Elven gold and silver to mix with his irreplaceable mithril sample, smelts Galadriel’s brother’s knife, and the steel blade melts at the same temperature as the precious metals of the handle for some reason. We now have to assume that the finest Elven blades were made from inferior brittle carbon steel (which still melts at a higher temperature than soft metals), while the swords of the men from the Southland have been alloyed with nickel as Halibrand mentioned, so as to make them tough and hold an edge when tempered. Clearly the men from the Southland were superior metallurgists to the primitive, less sophisticated Elves. Who knew(?), surely not Tolkien. The mithril, so touchy and unstable that a tiny sliver of it has already blown up the furnace once, is carefully added to the melt by pulling the lump of unrefined ore out of a pouch and tossing it in the crucible, no drying or preheating, cur-plunk, with no ill effect. The pour is not carried to the mold to keep it as hot and liquid as possible, but flows down a split stream along long, curving troughs for some reason. We see the tongs of the craftsman twisting silver wires to form one of the rings, a process which has little to do with smelting as wires are drawn, not cast. Not too surprising then that the silver wire ring is a different color than the two super-bowl rings, as it is obviously made from a different (non-magical) alloy. Although the chunky zircon on top does have a certain Disney princess “charm” all its own. Critics have pointed out that the Amazon writers don't have copyrights to Gandalf, Hobbits, etc. Hence the nameless "not Gandalf" wizard and proto-hobbit “club-foots” or what have you. I'm guessing the ring designs are also copyrighted. I'm glad those guys from Jackson’s crew are still working and I wonder if they are cringing like much of the audience is.

[@InfernalPasquale]

The definition of "a character can only be as intelligent as the person who writes them". Extends to the story writing as well.

[@AlbertusMagnus_44]

It seems that Hollywood as a whole has followed Disney’s lead and purged out its creative talent and replaced them with talentless amateurs. I have no other explanation.

[@ethericbliss23]

Complete and total Facts!!! @09:15 describes pretty much everything THROUGH to E03 thus far. Don't think I've the fortitude to continue any further.

[@adhicham8185]

Sauron used me and under his hand, I was played like a harp ,but the tune sounded like a cat walking on a piano.

[@villematiashaukia9633]

I had beans today and at some point, me too, was louder than the sea.

[@jamess7181]

Clearly the writers of The Acolyte found subsequent employment here.

[@mxvega1097]

There is one bit I like: fragments of the Bulgarian National Radio Choir being thrown in to random scenes - deserts, forests, bad guys / misunderstood guys, arrivals, departures, portentous but limp moments etc. Close harmony in minor 2nds, guaranteed to bring drama to any scene. If done well. Or teeth-grinding torment.

[@antoniafiorenza]

Love this just wonderful and spot on - i feel exorcised thank you 😂😂😂

[@ffelegal]

No way this show cost a billion dollars. Someone is money laundering from it, you can't convince me otherwise

[@thenapalmbrothershq5585]

Well about $10 went into the script.

[@glennafcnewyalk5925]

you remind me of 25 years ago when a movie would come out that I thought might be good but I had to go to one of my trusted newspaper critics to make sure it was worth spending money for. You are brilliant. Seriosly dude, thanks this is great s*** from the writing to the editing and everything in between!

[@KeytarArgonian]

There are only 2 elves in the legendarium that have beards. They had literally no reason to shave Cirdan and take away his ine main distinguishing feature other than spite. Spite regarding Disa. ‘You care about beards?’ - shaves the only bearded character to appear in their show. Absolute spite.

[@dinmavric5504]

That's very petty. At least they had the balls to show an Elf with a beard, everyone that shouldn't have beards in the PJ movies has one. Find something else to criticize, there is plenty.

[@the-real-Lovefist]

Your reviews of this abomination are always spot on.

[@Aurora2097]

Somebody throw this show into mount doom!

[@alexkeihorn7364]

I got second-hand embarrassment from these "Tolkien"-like dialogues. The whole thing sounds like fifth graders in a school play.

[@victorcates9330]

I couldn't remember how season 1 ended exactly. I couldn't remember if Galadriel and Elrond had reasons to be sure about their positions on the rings. Galadriel going straight to where Elrond had hidden was horrible plotting. AND THE DIALOG WAS PUNISHING! You'd assume that maybe in middle earth, they'd have a variant of killing two birds with one stone. They'd have idiomatic speech, but it's all so verbose. Day to day communication should be for efficiency. "Killing two birds with one stone" is short compared to explaining the idea and adds meaning. And the cross cutting is idiotic. Cross cutting implies that everything is happening simultaneously. It adds to the sense of plot being inorganic by corroding the sense of time and distance. Wandering the wilderness with Gandalf feels more epic if it takes months. But it's I guess happening concurrently with things that feel like they should be a few days.

[@michaelsupernor4682]

By far the best criticism of this series to date

[@Fre3linx]

I was really rooting for that sand twister. Glad to know I'm not alone

[@DrakeTimbershaft]

Charlie Vickers is the master of the "Kubrick Stare." Well done, Chuck.

[@Dmanz67]

Honestly, I'm not joking. Every time I tried to watch S1 I fell asleep.

[@Coramelimane]

The three elven rings are supposed to be free of Sarouns corruption since they were made before the others.

[@rezaruki3912]

And Sauron is not black goo like venom, he is evil demi god that can rule middle earth like his old master morgoth.

[@inczekrisztian2648]

The Three were made last, in secret, by Celebrimbor alone, when Sauron already left to forge the One. Also, they were the culmination of more than a hundred years of knowledge and practice. They were not marred by Sauron directly, because he wasn't there by that point, but his knowledge was what they used to make them, that is why the One still had an effect on them. Still, they were not a corrupting influence. Soooo, basically the complete opposite of what they did in the show. As with many other important things...

[@yurikendal4868]

Not entirely free. They were made in a way that connected them to the one ring or at least powered by it. Elrond could not have known that at this point

[@syme9925]

I have to hire a sanitation expert to empty and inspect my septic system every 3 years. I feel that you are doing a similar work, dealing with ugly stuff and reporting on it so I dont have to experience it directly.

[@berner]

Even though I have never seen a single episode of any season of whatever this show is trying to be about, after hearing all the negative press around it I think I know what might bring its ratings up: a sudden alien invasion complete with space crafts, energy and particle weapons, oh yeah and explosions and random portals that dinosaurs come out of.

[@GuilfordHancock]

I like Constable paintings when I'm in my cups. I would compare this to the productions of someone even more commercial but much better at his craft: Maxfield Parrish. Love old Max, especially that Lantern image. 'Daybreak' is one of the most popular prints in the U.S. But too much and it's like eating the whole box of chocolates in one go. It's the meat and potatoes and salad if you must that sustain.

[@billypratt4201]

Companies spent 100 million dollars on a TV show....?? 100 million dollars to get YOU to sit and not move for 1 HOUR.........??? Watch all the shows..........LOL

[@drguldan3668]

How to kill sauron : Drop the ring in to the fire Just ask the orc to GB sauron

[@serenafury5786]

I can't find anything of Tolkien's work in this show. I'm not a Tolkien specialist, but I've read The Silmarillion and there's absolutely nothing from it in this bad fan fiction written by what could be uneducated teenage girls.

[@dinmavric5504]

I don't think we read the same book then.

[@serenafury5786]

@@dinmavric5504 as a paid amazon troll, sure you didn't

[@yurikendal4868]

3:20 He said that. No, Im NOT letting that sink in. That's just stupid

[@SlipdeGarcondeJour]

'Mid-Earth'. Please tell me you coined that. 🤣

[@WishingItWereEasy]

I’ve never watched an episode- I truly hate how they have all the making of the Rings not in order. The three Elven rings were made AFTER the 16 rings- 9 for mortal men, and 7 for the Dwarf Lords. Celibrimbor made the three elven rings LAST, without Sauron mucking them up. I believe he died after this. The Elven Rings were meant to protect the realm of Middle Earth, and in fear of Sauron gaining control over them, they were hidden away. All of this show is a garbled mess. They had LITERALLY whole books and resource material to use to make a great show- and they decided to go with DEI hires and cosplay LoTR. *facepalm

[@benmiles00]

Absolute gold. So many great videos are coming out sh1tting on this dumpster fire. Love it.

[@frankrizzo7746]

Thank you Master HamFast

[@ExtraterrestrialsareReall]

I don't miss watching the utter trash that commiewood is producing these days. You have my sympathy for withstanding the pain and cringed writing,acting,etc,etc...

[@michaelsupernor4682]

"I'm just kidding, that would be a plot development!" Your narration far supercedes the writing of this tripe.

[@Xenophon1]

Hollywood has passed the torch to buffoons.

[@IUsedToBeAnAdventurerLikeYou]

Part of me wants to watch this season, but then I remember how miserable an experience the first one was and I just can’t. I can’t figure out why they’re making Gil-Galad something of an antagonist.

[@Avarn388]

Echo Chamberlain: "You have not seen what I have seen." Me: Yeah, I bailed on episode one and watched the real Lord of the Rings. ;) Jokes aside, thank you Echo for watching this trite. It's amazing to think we live in a world where we are getting Star Wars and LOTRs and yet both of them suck. And while the droves of consoomers(folks who unquestioningly consume as fans) will berate channels like you, it just sucks to see this stuff done poorly. I am a sucker for epic fantasy and would love to see it realized in a TV series that's good that isn't Game of Thrones. But nope; these showrunners and writers don't care. They see LOTRs as a platform to do whatever they want and deride anyone who voices an iota of criticism towards them. It's why I've been rewatching a lot of good stuff like Hercules, Xena, Beastmaster tv series etc. alongside stuff like yours. All in all, keep up the amazing work. Don't let the haters get to you.

[@chasehedges6775]

Exactly this

[@Avarn388]

@@chasehedges6775The worst series in the 90s is better than what we are getting. Because as flawed and bad as they were; there was a lack of smugness to it Whereas shows like ROP and the Acolyte are reeking with pretentious smugness as if they are smart. Nah, they are stupider because not only are they bad. They are bad and proud of it.

[@chasehedges6775]

@@Avarn388 Well said

[@reek4062]

The real Lord of the Rings is to be read.

[@BLAW1758]

I am really surprised to see it 92% on Rotten Tomatoes. I’m not sure what they’re comparing it to.

[@Power_Prawnstar]

Gee who would of thought that no one can write like ol J.R?!? 🤔

[@serpentinious7745]

Middling Earth

[@PaulJohn01]

The M83 callout got me 🤣🤣🤣🤣