RIP to Toyota Reliability? Major Tundra Engine Failures

[@CanadianGearhead]

What do you think Toyota should have done with the 3rd gen Tundra?

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Make the 1UR-FSE 4.6L with port and direct injection the base engine and then add direct injection to the 5.7 making it a 3UR-FSE and have that be the upgrade engine. Mate them to the 10-speed and have the hybrid optional on the 4.6 for every trim and optional on the 5.7 for the TRD Pro. Simple as that.

[@AlexKosanovich]

They Should Have Kept Simplicity ,Reliability And Longevity As Their Focus ! And Keep American Engineers away from any designing of it ! PERIOD ! The Company As a whole will never be what it once was !

[@albertatundra]

Modernize the 3UR-FE and bring it back!

[@ij2750]

@@AlexKosanovich Keep American engineers away and use all Japan sourced parts if they want better reliability.

[@TheLogitech91]

Dude, do you honestly believe this due to engine debris. Manufacturing material left in the engine both in the US and Japan, This is a flawed design.

[@negativeindustrial]

No one loves turbochargers more than I do, but there are places where V8 engines are best suited. Trucks that tow are one of them.

[@CanadianGearhead]

As a proud owner of a turbo car, I totally agree!

[@boxoffisa]

Blame climate change folks.

[@cwqrpportable]

I tow with a TTV6 hybrid truck and a straight turbo truck. Both of these powertrains work fantastic and are actually better performers than my V8s.

[@boxoffisa]

@@cwqrpportable the new V6 in Toyotas is powerfully but a few things need to be revised. Engines have been improved and tech making it better. So I agree with you. People think V8 is everything. But I have seen some V6 that are much better than some V8s without turbo.

[@4wd4Life-xs3id]

Most tundra owners weren't towing with these trucks. They are low mileage queens. Imagine driving 10k miles a year and saying you like it because it can go a million miles. It would only take 100 years.

[@davidr5340]

The guy in this video is correct. The real problem is NOT related to metal shavings. We all know Toyota will not admit a serious design flaw because it would lead to a class action lawsuit. To me, the real reason they are not installing a long block is because they know the new long block is STILL going to have the same problems. The problem is that STRANGE cradle below the motor that holds the crankshaft bearings. This engine should have separate 4-bolt bearing caps like you would see in a LS Chevy V8 engine. I realize that a Mercedes V8 has a big cradle that holds the bottom bearing caps. I saw Ford V6 turbo also has the weird cradle but Fords cradle has more stiffeners and more webbing. The issue is not metal shavings. Soon, enough mechanics will determine precisely why the engine is failing.

[@ij2750]

I agree with your assessment that the problem being with the cradle, and I think the thin oil used in the engine along with turbocharging increased the potential for failure.

[@jereignjayavenhenryjohn6802]

Damn u know a lot.... and I agree with u

[@darcypadgham7076]

Apparently it is the front bearing that is the failure point on the cradle. Toyota won't admit anything due to protecting themselves. Toyota's years of R&D testing doesn't appear to have been applied to the cradle and now it will cost them dearly!

[@williammiller6422]

Toyota new tacoma and tundra is dead

[@travismiles8635]

Not true entirely. Specifically seen issues directly related to this even way before the recall. With replacement blocks sent to dealer "multiple" before a good block was found. So this isn't true. Other problems do exist thought

[@EdA-bz3bu]

Adding twin turbos with more plastics is the worst thing tayota has ever done 😂😂😂

[@icosthop9998]

L😂L

[@buck546]

I kiss my 2020 every morning because I chose her over waiting for the new 2022. When I heard that the 2022 power train would be a turbo six cylinder I decided to get a 5.7 V8 before they were gone. Glad I did now!

[@RadarPip]

Did the same

[@DFWrancher]

I did the same too 😊

[@ac7438]

2021 tundra cement trail edition loving it

[@donaltemus3565]

You all are smart folks and did the right thing!

[@2-old-Forthischet]

No replacement for displacement.............old gearhead statement.

[@doctordetroit4339]

Physics 101 bro......

[@dannyo957416]

They have dealers not accepting them as trade ins

[@travismiles8635]

That's true

[@RYTHMICRIOT]

This was my assessment as well. People act like Toyota has all these replacement engines just sitting in a warehouse ready to go and they'd be without their truck for a few days. Waiting list is more like it.

[@jameskocks4734]

The old saying “no replacement for displacement” comes to mind.

[@victorglaviano]

But the displacement is almost the same! As long time builder of American muscle, I disagree with the displacement theory, I'll take a SBF and smoke a big block in the ¼ all day long! It's trying to make the government, tree huggers and other non truck drivers happy and voila, this is the result!

[@patriotone755]

Diminished value of all existing trucks impacted by this recall. Who would buy a used truck with a recall of the engine requiring extensive work or replacement.

[@wysetech2000]

Is that your problem??

[@1978JMichael]

Keeping my 2020 5.7 and just bought a 4runner 4.0 limited knowing the new one is on the way and don't have high hopes for it.

[@leonardopgonzalez2749]

The fix is to bring back the 5.7👍🏼

[@goldgulfcoastdesignericsho8628]

The sky is falling the sky is falling!!! Toyota hasn't even came out with a fix yet, (I purchased a 2023 Tundra limited ZERO ISSUES 15k on the clock) I have been a Toyota owner for over 30 years and not once have we been shafted and left out in the cold. Now someone will comment that Toyota is not afraid of losing me as a customer probably true, not until they come out with a fix, Only then will we will know but until then I'm optimistic. The sky is not falling.

[@OldmanSnake]

The hybrid engine goes to another line and has a lot of processes it goes through. And only 824 engines have documented warranty work out of 300,000 trucks sold since 2022

[@athiesmrulz]

Glad I got the hybrid

[@gatordunn]

I have the hybrid, and want to know more. Where did you find this info? They are hybrids with blown engines also

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

From what I heard. They’re not worried about the hybrids at the moment because if the engine goes, you have battery backup. I just bought a sequoia 6 day’s before this recall. 🙄 I also heard the recall is up to 300000 now.

[@JeremyWeber-ur8js]

Ford has a very dialed in 3.5 litre twin turbo engine that performs very well and get much better mpg than a Tundra. I feel the engineers at toyota have lived on old technology they are struggling to advance .

[@nightdipper5178]

There was a bad engine design in the Celica, that was the year Toyota stopped producing the Celica. I expect the same demise is in store for the low volume Tundra.

[@johnwest2396]

I personally think it's an engineering problem, not a debris problem. Because online everybody that's talking about engines that blew it always seems to be the main bearing that fails in everyone. I would think if it's debris in the engine. It would cause other damage than just to the main bearings.

[@bryan6036]

Did Toyota not test these new engines before mass production? That mistake should never be made...especially by Toyota!

[@avxrevo]

Should’ve never touched the v8. Imagine the new gen tundra with the reliable v8 and the creature comforts.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Just in time production is so inflexible that the 10-speed transmissions in these Tundras are backordered for the very few that have transmission failure.

[@Fiftyfiv3hundr3d]

The confusing thing to me is by blaming machining practices, it insinuates it’s an issue with the Tundra motor manufacturer in the US. But the LX600, same motor manufactured in Japan, is included in the recall. Both plants are having the same “metal shavings” problem on opposite sides of the planet?

[@ibiro868]

If they admit it’s a flaw in their engineering design, they now owe you a new engine. It would be an easy class action lawsuit so they have to blame it on the “process”

[@boxoffisa]

It’s design flaw. But if it wasn’t for climate change pressure V8 should have remained.

[@lucasaaaass]

@mathyoubuggin the engines are made in the same plant the vehicles are assembled in different plants

[@jaimerivera2414]

That's an intersting fact that screams BS from the manufacturer! Why hasn't anyone else talked about that??

[@wysetech2000]

Both sides of the planet us the same computer controlled machines. The software that runs them has the same software writers. They have the same problem.

[@vinhhuynh1205]

Where's the quality control with Toyota? As an employee for Honda Canada we do a quality control where we examine one in every few hundred engines for such issues and others!

[@CanadianGearhead]

When I worked there they used to do something similar, not sure if they still do

[@boxoffisa]

It’s design flaw not quality control. Same issue with same motor in other cars they put it like Lexus lx.

[@136donjuan]

Saw it coming. That’s why the newest runner,and the Land Cruiser will go down in history as the shame grial. For those legendary models

[@corradettimotorsports360]

I've had dismal failure with both of my Toyotas (2019 Tacoma TRD Pro & my current 2023 Tundra SR) The interior is falling apart and just does not feel quality, my dealer here in Edmonton is lack luster, with that I am out and going to look at either settling with my old Power Stroke Diesel and save a payment or trade it in on a 5.0L F150 (which I should I have done in the first place) The newer engines are probably more emissions compliant and allow for more packaging in a larger line up in their feet. Either way I am disappointed with Toyota and will find another brand here soon! Good Convo!

[@CanadianGearhead]

I think the F150 with a Coyote 5.0 is one of the last good options out there

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

The best truck engine currently is the Ford 7.3L Godzilla. It's just less fuel efficient than the 5.0L and being only in the Super Duty doesn't help fuel economy. The Coyote is an amazing engine tho so you can't go wrong there. Edit: Skipped the fact you have a Powerstroke. Even the 6.0 is an awesome truck I'd keep that and be payment free.

[@vijayrk7329]

I had a Tacoma TRD pro for a week on a rental..it make an absolutely insane amount of noise on the highway. I'm pretty sure there was something wrong with its engine - it only has 12000 miles on it

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@vijayrk7329 Was it the 2024?

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 The 7.3 Godzilla has lifter problems at the moment. The Coyote has a belt driven oil pump and cylinder deactivation. I suspect the 6.6 L8T is a better engine than either of those two. No AFM/DFM, and no major issues on a large scale.

[@tedandress2741]

At a time when money is tight reliability is King too bad Toyota didn't get that.

[@Helpus2024-h6j]

Yep, mine blew almost a year ago at 28,000. After a six month ordeal with the nonexistent Toyota customer service I finally got my Lemon Law buyback check. The debris issue is nonsense. If this was the case, why are Lexus SUVs experiencing the same issue with blocks that are made in Japan. Just more cover-up lies from Toyota. They were forced to make this recall based on several near death accidents, and the fact that there’s a class action lawsuit in the works. They couldn’t cover this up any longer.

[@AlwaysRidinInAustin]

I love my 2013 tundra, got the 5.7 V8 and I have had no issues whats so ever, it's amazing what happens when you properly maintain your vehicles

[@AbouTto_]

Except very bad MPGs.

[@ibidu1]

Here in the middle east, they love their Toyota land cruisers, and LX500. So many guys have been having their engines crap out. Its the same engine as the Tundra, also they have cooling issues to where these new land cruisers are over heating. So many will run aftermarket radiators in their new landcruisers.

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

I have heard of stories of engine failures on the LC300s and LX600s, but other than the design issue it can also be because the locals thrash them very badly that at one pound they usually give up...

[@ToyotaCelicaDude1]

Ive been a LONG TIME Toyota fanboy, i mean. Look at my profile name. I am really disappointed in Toyota. Their general quality has been going down for multiple years. I'd say since around 2018 heavily. I was a salesman at a Toyota dealership in Denver between 2017 and 2020, you could just feel the quality go down between releases of new models. They got more, "Tech". But lost that general robustness Toyota was known for. Plastics got even cheaper, engines got noisier. I noticed it heavily when the Highlander got updated in late 2019. The last gen was behind the times, sure. But dang, it was SMOOTH for a family hauler. The materials were sturdy, the engine/transmission combo was like butter. The new generation looks nice, but in my opinion material quality dropped tremendously. And they were not as comfortable. The shift in quality was apparent. I just told myself, its a Toyota so whatever. Well, as all of their newer models are aging, there have been a decent amount of complaints regarding drivetrains across multiple models. These are the newest to the list. Their 8 speed has been known to be "underfilled" from the factory leading to transmission problems and failures. This happened with the Tacoma and Rav4s. The newer rav4 engine is LOUD as heck. Compared to the older generations, its a lawnmower. I feel like Toyota hit its 21st century peak in the late 2000s-early 2010s. Enough technology, mostly great Powertrains. I've owned a 2006 Solara, 2001 Celica, 1999 Camry, 2009 ES350, and a 2000 Corolla in the past, all of which brought more than 200k miles on their original powertrains. The only ones that had any problems was the Corolla and Celica with oil burning. Die hard Toyota fan, and i know I'm not alone. Toyota has been a Trainwreck. Other brands are finding a way to build consistently improving cars in terms of reliability. Think Subaru and Mazda. Both of which have greatly improved their quality over the last 15 years. Lots of their recent powertrains are showing IMPROVEMENTS. Toyota is not doing the same. They're starting to do what Honda has done off and on through the 21st century, skate on their reputation and die hard fans who end up paying the price of their name.

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

I agree with you fully. This sadly is the case. I suspect newer Toyotas/Lexus (aside from the LC70 which has nearly ZERO airbags, safety features) might be largely the same as other brands. I am pretty sure the Fortuner might get the turbo engine from the 4runner and may have similar reliability problems...

[@cavedog1279]

10/10 for the Trailer Park Boys Reference, especially since it's a Canadian channel.

[@CanadianGearhead]

Way she goes

[@Vox-Populi]

Toyota had a good 30 year run in the full-size pickup truck arena. They swing for the fences on this update, and the ball fell short. I do not believe that their full-size truck position will ever recover.

[@tedlulis973]

What ? Their full size trucks have always been Dismal at best. Sales have always sucked and there is a reason for that.

[@Vox-Populi]

@@tedlulis973 Dismal? Educate yourself. The gen 1&2 Tundra, gen 1&2 Sequoia and all generations of the 4Runner have been the gold standard for reliability in the truck world, and have all been very functional.

[@tedlulis973]

@@Vox-Populi LOL ! And that is why Chevrolet Ford and Ram all outsell it at least 3 to 1 .. They are never taken seriously when real truck stuff needs to be done..Quit drinking the Koolaid dude.. Educate YOURSELF 🥳

[@Vox-Populi]

@@tedlulis973 What do you mean by real truck stuff? Things that three-quarter ton trucks are used for? That's not what we're talking about, and that has nothing to do with your comment about Toyotas been dismal. I've owned all of the major brands, and Toyota, by far has been the best. The most reliable, and the easiest to work with and work on. Toyota came on the scene in the 90s, and took marketshare away from Ford, Chevy, and Dodge.

[@tedlulis973]

@@Vox-Populi You are the one that Mentioned in the " full size truck arena" And it is still safe to say that Toyota has never been a Real player in the real truck arena only the wimpy toy truck segment. . And the new Tacoma is an epic fail also. Too small and gutless to get any real work done and 2 big and thirsty to be considered an economy option Thus the Moniker..TuRD.... 💩

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

This just being a safety recall I'm very certain Toyota excluded the hybrids because they technically still have some mode of power to limp somewhere where they will be stranded because the engine is dead and can't produce electricity for the electric motor. "That's just a minor inconvenience not a safety issue, dummy" is what Toyota would probably say here.

[@CanadianGearhead]

Yeah I'm thinking the same

[@roadcarver71]

Probably not enough hybrids sold (for now)

[@ProgPena]

You can easily upgrade for one that has hybrid engine for only extra 30K 😅

[@livingaboard]

Not true. The hybrid is only there for extra power

[@Shmity1962]

I just bought a 2024 4Runner with the 4.0 V6 before they are gone

[@icosthop9998]

Smart

[@bogdanovichracing9138]

I new adding turbos was gonna cause issues. I didn't think they'd have issues this quickly though!

[@jaimerivera2414]

Although the V8 was reliable, it was too thirsty for this economy. Something had to be done. Maybe adding more gears and offering optional hybrid on that V8 would've cut it.

[@kdaltex]

Nobody got what they wanted with the 3rd gen tundra except toyota charging more for less

[@cwqrpportable]

Such a valid point!

[@RK777PL]

My opinion is it's a design issue and nothing else they got to redesign that engine completely

[@josephharvey5742]

Wow, I'd thought the metal debris would have accumulated in the oil filter. Curious if they cut open the oil filters and look for metal debris. I'd think they'd be full of metal debris and if not then might be looking at some problem not currently identified with this engine.

[@AlexHG-bc3hz]

Next in line is the Tacoma engine failure. Wait and see.

[@kdaltex]

TFS already broke it doing mild off roading

[@AbouTto_]

Interested to know if it also uses the bearing cradle.

[@Tpowerboy]

Beautiful MR2 back there, i miss mines.

[@TheWinwin4all]

Not voluntary at all. When so many dealerships had to take these trucks back under lemon law, they had to do something. Anyway, Toyota and first buyers are screwd

[@davechester2642]

I'm keeping my 2019 4runner, put Bilst4600 shocks Falken wild peaks at3w and frame treated my Retirement vehicle only 37,000 miles

[@Knowbetter69]

There is an old American saying.Don't fix what's not broken, just because something new comes out doesn't mean it's better.I don't fall for that crap.

[@Dragalovci]

"I told you so"!

[@zalansz9450]

I know one of my neighbors, with a new Tundra....his truck has been sitting parked for about 3 months now. Yep, you guessed it. Dealership won't even touch it yet because they know they don't have a fix really. This truck doesn't even have the normal license plate on it yet....it still has the paper print temporary license plate... People are getting super pissed off with $70k brand new trucks sitting worthless broken.

[@Psichlo1]

You also have to remember that the major reason that all manufacturers are moving away from the V8 is because of EPA mandated emission control. It wasn't something that they just decided to do on their own. In order to remain competitive in the segment, they couldn't afford to take the additional penalty costs and taxes that would be added to the vehicle if they didn't comply with these standards. Back when GM and other manufacturers started doing DoD and AFM, it was to avoid the penalties from the EPA that would have added to the sale price of their vehicles and made them less competitive, pricewise, against the competition.; If you really want to get upset about the demise of the V8's, blame the EPA and their mandates. I had to get a new vehicles recently, and I decided to get a 24 $runner before the new generation goes to the IForce turbo 4 cylinder, because I can almost guarantee it is going to have issues as well. The other issue, not being talked about here is, the longevity of forced induction engines may or may not be as good as their NA equivalent. I suppose only time will tell. Probably won't matter soon, since we will all be forced into EV's sooner or later anyway. Cheers.

[@ij2750]

I agree and have said before the manufacturers need to band together and push back on the EPA, so they can build their products in a way that has proven to be reliable.

[@alexgavieres8293]

EPA has done more damage to this country than most folks know.

[@series9193]

Corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) yep that’s to improve emissions but maybe you don’t know about it really maybe you just take whatever is said to you without thinking? The new CAFE standards mandate that all new passenger vehicles in the United States improve fuel economy by 2% annually from 2027, reaching approximately 50.4 miles per gallon by 2031. For light trucks, the standards require NO increase in 2027-2028 but call for a 2% annual increase from 2029 to 2031. Maybe you don’t understand that CAFE is a manufacturers fleet it’s used in it’s calculation. So say a vehicle maker wants to make a vehicle with a v8 a real gas guzzler bad on emissions can they do it? Sure !! Because they make enough 4cl enough hybrids and some electric vehicles they add them up in total that’s the fleet and sure enough they meet the standard to have a v8. The real reason for manufacturers to go from v8 to 6cyl turbo from 6cyl to 4cyl turbo is because it saves money for them !! And because it’s a turbo it makes them more money because the engine is more complicated meaning they are the ones to do maintenance and repair not you !! Also do you think that a vehicle maker had no stake in anything else automotive? A turbo requires more oil changes who do you think owns shares in oil production? Vehicles are made for less with poorer quality it’s their greed and your stupidity because you’ll keep buying and they’ll have you believe it’s everyone from here to the man on the moon who’s screwing you and you’ll believe it because you want to believe it !!

[@Chubbydippin]

Agreed. And the other truly greedy aspect is, while adhering to the EPA requirements to "avoid" penalties as a manufacturer, the cost of these vehicles still keeps going up as if the ARE paying those penalties.

[@mikeh.9954]

Big Government strikes again!

[@wallymoreno1745]

They will not include current model years because they would have to issue a stop sale. Does anyone know if the hybrid gas engine is built on a separate assembly line or plant?

[@haydnjohnson8611]

Nobody remembers the crankshafts blowing up engines the first year of the 2nd gen tundra? 2007?

[@perfectlybalanced8995]

Blame the EPA. They are killing our V8s

[@paulmoss7940]

Vote Trump to hamstring three letter agencies.

[@bigdan4698]

I test drove a 2022 before buying a used 2021 tundra. I just didn't like the design, really glad now.

[@bobbywaltersinsurance9081]

I wonder how the 2025 Tundra I-Max engines will be doing. Will the engine problem just continue over each year?

[@crippleguy415]

Nothing was wrong with the 5.7 V-8 motor . My 2018 Tundra 4X4 has been thru hell and it's still running like new . And it's paid for .

[@johnjohnson2855]

Shavings ???? My Ass it’s always the same bearing that fails. How are they going to stretch the truth on that.

[@paulmoss7940]

V6 twin turbo is a DEI hire. Expect subpar performance and down time.

[@charbvin]

I ll stick to my Honda Ridgeline...

[@johnroy4803]

I considered the Ridgeline. Now, I laugh every time I pull beside one with my 2018 Tundra CrewMax Limited. Love the legroom in my truck

[@seinundzeiten]

@@johnroy4803 I considered the Ridgeline too..when I pull up with my 5.7V8 , I still admire the Honda design

[@egresk1]

Toyota will extend the engine warranty. That is the only logical and $ fix. This will give them time to do this.

[@atccollector8575]

Saw your Scotty Kilmer is wrong video from 9 months ago. Scotty was right Gearhead.... Can't question a lifetime mechanic. Nothing personal! I'm a Toyota owner as well!

[@CanadianGearhead]

He just posted an oil change video where he used a Fram filter and tightened the drain bolt with a breaker bar. I think everyone should be questioning him lol

[@yz8096]

Engine debris narrative a sham. Faulty design, period. My message to Toyota: "Take-Off, HOSERS!!" FYI, it looks like it's actually 1% of the 100K trucks recalls have actually had failures (1,000 trucks) so that puts it into perspective (if it's true). Still unacceptable and who knows when their 2022-23 Tundra is going to take a dump? Reportedly, some of the affected units have had to be fixed 2 and 3 times! This sucks!

[@martinmdl6879]

As an Engineer, oil changes at 5000 miles, use 5W-20 oil, oil analysis - samples to the lab. If your oil analysis shows no wear metal contamination - don't worry about it. Without data, you are flying blind and you should be worried.

[@tb5875]

5k oil changes are the way to go. The recommended 10k interval is too long. I brought my 2022 tundra in for the first oil change at 2k miles and back again at 5k. I'll continue changing my oil every 5k. I have 42k on it now, and it's been great. Multiple road trips to New England, Florida, VA and NC. The truck doesn't even break a sweat climbing the mountains through I-64 in WV where I live. I think it's a good truck, but there were definitely some lemons. My tundra was assembled in TX in 8/2022.

[@victorglaviano]

2009, 5.7 lasted 13 years and nothing wrong, just upgraded to 2014 5.7, still not a problem! There's something to say about what works! But in Toyota's defense, they practice Kaizen to a fault, so if something moves left and not right, then nani des ka? I lived in Japan for over a decade, so I am quite familiar with the Japanese phsyce. They're almost too efficient for their own good sometimes!

[@johnroy4803]

Fact- Toyota stands by their products. I’ve witnessed it first hand a few times. Bought new 2000 RX. The trans went out at 90k miles, so it’s out of warranty. Lexus put in a new trans for free. The gas pump went out in bought used ‘18 Tundra Limited at 70k miles. The dealership said they will only charge what they charge Toyota, around $800. I called Toyota and got a full refund. I’ve dealt with Ford before and they could care less. All this aside, I’m very glad I didn’t upgrade my quite thirsty 5.7 for the new Tundra. I’ll wait for the kinks to be resolved.

[@cwqrpportable]

45 yrs of buying and leasing Ford trucks and I've yet to be stood up by Ford and warranty claims. Nice story though....... A good dealership is the key, for both brands.

[@davidsmith2517]

Understand folks recall says may have debris. Doesn’t mean all of them have debris . Toyota sold 95K units in 22 with 75 failures and in 23 they sold 125K with only 10 failures. Very low considering units sold . Really look in to what you’re saying bud. A lot of tundras running just fine with no issues.

[@tb5875]

I've had no problems with my 2022. You can go on car gurus and see plenty of 2022, 23 Tundras that have well over 100k miles.

[@johnjohnson2855]

Old long time rule NEVER BUY THE FIRST OR SECOND YEARS OF ANY NEW MODELS OF ANY VEHICLES THERES ALWAYS BUGS TO WORK OUT!!!

[@jbelllouisburg]

4.6 - short stroke 5.7, love mine !!, always thought toyota should a just added single turbo to it if they wanted more out of it.

[@neocount6397]

Is this the same for the 24''s?

[@Karmazov]

The reality is that Toyota replaced their vaunted principle of Kaizen with Planned Obsolescence. Now it is all about profit and profit only. They want their customers to buy thier vehicles more often. Someone in their headquarters must have done some math and decided that reliability is costing them profits because people are holding on to their Toyotas for too long.

[@travismiles8635]

Hard to tell. But these engines have been in lexus for a few years prior. And as far as I know they didn't have the same problem.

[@adecarlo29411]

Next is the GX550.

[@acihawaii]

Local dealer here in HI Was wondering about their future!

[@wysetech2000]

DON'T BUY a Toyota product, period. Problem solved!

[@noniespam]

I think they would have been forced to do the recall because it was deemed a safety issue. They knew it and just beat the order to do it. Trying to save face.

[@ottowassink2886]

They are definitely working on it. Give em a chance!

[@tacomas9602]

My 06 2TRFE made it TWO HUNDRED and 86 THOUSAND hard miles. Toyota is fucking up big time with the 4th gen Taco and new Tundra.

[@cedricjackson7521]

Toyota is basically going to be replacing a lot of tundra hybrid engines under warranty and recall.

[@jessedavid4271]

6/11/24 - I too am a Toyota Loyal customer But Not to Toyota turbo anything I will Only consider non turbo 2022 and prior models Naturally Aspirated my go to engines So much to think about: - bad design - poor design - don't care design Yea more than just debris shavings sludge etc Considering what it takes to make a turbo work What durable quality reliable material used to Make toyota turbo engines MTGA "Make Toyota Great Again" "Bat Shite CrAzY"

[@Lexusgx550]

This only tundra ? It should we stay away from Land Cruiser and new Tacoma ,4Runner ?

[@tedlulis973]

So just who falls on his sword over this one ?

[@atomicgamer8416]

Working at a Toyota dealership I think they should of kept the V8 and not changed

[@MaxAntihero11]

So did you run out and get vaccinated right away or did you figure I better hold off and see how the first batch works out?

[@turboomni848]

Ya think the used v8 Tundras will go up in value now as there will be more demand for them?

[@CanadianGearhead]

I don't think they'll go up necessarily but I think they'll hold strong without depreciating too much

[@Blue-moon12]

Is that an MR2 in your garage? I had a 1993 2.0 16v GT when I was back in England. What a car!

[@jc6618]

Wait.. so you and I both have a glacier white frontier pro 4x 2023, we both love Jesus AND your from England too?! There no way bro.. this is getting too weird. 😅

[@Blue-moon12]

@@jc6618 "Did we just become friends?" 😄

[@musicmann5516]

Every new engine has metal shavings, gravity works them down to the oil pan over time and oil changes and oil filters prevents them from going back into the engine. If let's say engine was flooded with shavings engines will fail immediately not several hundred or thousands of miles later. Same thing as kia. Big lawsuit and they said it was metal shavings but in reality it was bad pistons and lack of port injection causing Hella carbon build up!

[@JB-og8we]

I owned a 2023 Tundra Limited iMax. Massive disappointment. Terrible quality both inside and out. Seat plastic cracked. Dome lights turn on by themselves. Fire possibility from brake line rubbing against fuel line. Engine issues.

[@tedlulis973]

Typical of tundra ownership that's why they don't sell very many in the first place people are on to them

[@AbouTto_]

Get ahead… Vid on if the new Tacoma uses a bearing cradle also.

[@frantotti9754]

Mistakes may happen at any time, what happened does not mean Toyota not reliable , it happens with all car manufacturers. it happened before with BMW, Mercedes, VW, Audi etc, some even did not admit or recall it .Toyota will handle it very well, they care a lot about their reputation, and they definitely will recall cars and fix it, and done.

[@bradbowles1153]

These truck manufacturers are making engines overly complicated and only getting a mile or two per gallon better fuel economy at the expense of longevity. I know the government has their hands in this too but what is worse for the environment, making a truck that lasts for 20 years a gets 20 mpg or making one that lasts 8 and gets 22 mpg? I think the manufacturers are trying to maintain their ESG scores along with government pressure are just trying to steer your average customer away from big trucks and leave the truck buying to businesses and the self employed who can justify spending the money on a solid 3/4 ton truck or larger with better engines. So with all this being said this will affect the boat and rv industry at some point in the future. You wont be able to tow what you want and go where you want. If you have a V8 half ton you had better baby it for as long as you can.

[@KMB23231]

Last good trucks are always a V8 with 5.7L & must have a 6 speed transmission.

[@davidheaton6206]

Nope but they are on thin ice and the next 1-2 years will determine whether they can salvage their reputation

[@JeremyWeber-ur8js]

Do remember, Toyota only sells roughly 100,000 Tundras in the United States per year. Not many Americans buy them . They buy Fords and Chevrolets. So who really cares right 😂

[@tedlulis973]

And there is a reason for that..toyota trucks = 💩

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

@@tedlulis973 They were good lifestyle/occassional light construction work vehicles (or used to be good ones with the 5.7L engine) which had fairly good value for money compared to the others. Not anymore.

[@BorderTurrets]

Toyota shills please listen. I am a toyota owner myself! DEMAND a new engine and stop letting them use band aids. If they refuse to comply dump it on the used market, push for lemon law/buyback, and let the Executives figure out how they are going to recoup the lossed for being greedy dogs.

[@Kevin19700]

The remedy is to replace the engines that are affected by this problem. That’s 100K engines.

[@ArnoldsDesign]

Remedy. Retrofit 5.7's back into them.

[@shueher1]

Yeah, it took Ford 3 generations to get the V6 turbo correct. This is Toyotas first gen. I was saying this when they debut this engine that it's gonna take them couple generations to get it right. No one listened.

[@donaltemus3565]

These vehicles are junk. Been saying that since it first came out. Toyota leadership major failure. I’m a die hard Toyota consumer but will never purchase any more of their vehicles unless they bring back NA V8/V6 options

[@hujek111111]

5.7L engine with 10 speed transmission. That is what we need Toyota.

[@AlexMartinez-uq2ye]

At $60k- $70k I would bust into a toyota plant, with some special words...I understand no car is perfect and toyota recalls are not a rarity, but $60k to some topping out at $80k, bro hell no.

[@nelsonarruda3272]

Every manufacturer out there is having problems Ford with their twin Turbo engines GM with their V8. That shut down to 4 cylinders. Kia just announced their massive recall for front seats Catching Fire Sooner or later, every manufactor goes through this.

[@Helpus2024-h6j]

Yeah, but not to the extent of the Toyota junk. Speaking from actual experience.

[@nelsonarruda3272]

@@Helpus2024-h6j All the guys who bought the GMC sgarra's and the Chevy Silverado's. They were filing lawsuits to get their trucks fixed.

[@ramaswamynarayanaswamy4806]

@@nelsonarruda3272 Where did the lawsuits go? Nowhere. Which speaks how the owners likely treated their vehicles as well before they had failure.

[@vcamps88]

I feel like you could do a really good flush to get that out... something deff is fishy

[@josephdispensa1475]

Just tell Toyota to make straight v6. And v 8 problem solved😢

[@tombox2759]

So happy to own 2 brand new 2024 TRD Offroad Premium 4Runners in my garage. Clear title on both. Both in Underground. Last of the great real Toyota vehicles made and assembled in Japan. Took a 100 pics of the new Tundra on a dealer lot and this junk did not have two straight lines or panel gaps anywhere. It was so pathetic and sad to see this junk at 75000. I had to laugh and cry in the same moment.