Ripley's Datalogs: A Fury 161 Timeline

[@xOubax]

Its crazy how times you can talk about the same movies yet make it unique each time. 👏

[@ipo79]

I have very fond memories of these cards. I was on holiday with my parents in NYC on November 1992 and I went in a gorgeous comic book store in Greenwich Village (Bleecker Street maybe ?) I think I bought 5 or 6 packs of these cards. Best part of the cards were the different and additional shoots you could find on them, scenes that only became available on the assembly cut. Still have them in a box 🙂

[@brandonwright2285]

I love these cards! I've been holding on to multiple sets of these for years. My grandfather and I would go through each one and discuss them. This is such a blast from the past. Thank you!

[@regod4772]

That sounds awesome my parents hated the fact I loved horror movies so much

[@WhiteScarsEmo]

I had a few of these cards when they came out. One hidden gem was the mugshots of the prisoners along with a brief bio of their crimes.

[@mr.spooky.official]

Gollig’s mugshot was terrifying though

[@Sharksleep]

I was able to get ahold of the whole set when the movie first came out. I was mostly focused on the comic cards, as I was a little too young to be interested in what scenes made it into the movie and what didn't. The whole set must either be buried in my parents' basement or lost. A few years back I found the set again in a local retro toy shop sans the comic cards. The most peculiar thing about the set is that it possesses a distinct smell. As soon as I got a whiff of the set, it immediately took me back. Just a strange detail. Anyway, the set is really nice. In terms of movie cards, they were way better quality than a lot of other movie card sets.

[@meidamx]

Mostly focused on the cinematic cards… Mostly…

[@LazzarrusLong]

@@meidamx Newt reference. Nice one. 😃

[@mattdawg83686]

Amazing Alien 3 was 30 years ago. I was between my freshman and sophomore year of college and working in Wildwood New Jersey for the summer where my sister lives. Where did the time go?? I had no idea this card series was even a thing, and was surprised because I was huge into collecting cards like this back then.

[@cultureofone]

Just wanted to say thank you for the content. I’m a musician and get home at late hours. Your vids and tone always bring me back to (our) reality after my chaos. Just saying thanks and keep it coming. A fan from Wales uk 🤘🏻

[@codprocamp4690]

Saw this in theater on a summer afternoon in 1992, then got drunk early, such vivid memories of my youth.

[@JFire1785]

A friend of mine had everything alien, predator, terminator, you-name-it sci fi. When he got the cards he didn't consider the idea of Ripley writing them. At least not all of them. He figured maybe she wrote some and the company filled the rest when she left. Despite how much time passed between movies, they did have some psychological records of her and this could basically be a way for the company to save face in losing the specimens. I always thought it was a gimmick, but kudos to my friend for making these connections.

[@thweidra]

I did in fact own some of these cards. They were so horrifying to me as kid. Nowadays it makes me wish I still owned the ones I had. I would love to get my hands on the complete set.

[@czr7j9]

people bag alien 3 but i reckon the directors cut version was really good. Probably one of the most bleak and dark sci films i have seen.

[@vernonspiker6629]

I have issues with the extended cut. When I watched it, I felt like it was a future-prison movie about paranoia and danger, and oh yeah (subplot) there's an Alien here and there. I do think the theatrical cut is the best they could do with all that footage. But that's me

[@giuseppi77]

I think by this time I was no longer collecting trading cards, but I definitely would've loved them. Do you remember Hot Dog Scholastic magazine?? I remember there was a write up in one edition on Alien 3!

[@SummerYeti]

You produce the best alien and predator vids

[@SiriusZiriux]

I was just going to Compliment the way He Edits and puts All This Together; He’s One of My Favourites for Lore, definitely in The Top Three. 🍻🦾🥂

[@NobleRaider2747]

definitely Mr. H Reviews used to be good but now from the looks of it he's become another "anti-SJW" type channel

[@PisstachioDisguisey]

@@NobleRaider2747 unfortunately… watching mr H was how i found alien theory. I just wish more ppl were familiar with AT.

[@nathangee2285]

I completely agree!

[@trevorhensley3185]

​@@NobleRaider2747Gotta pander to what makes you the most money!

[@paulj5336]

It reminds me of the T2 trading cards where deleted scenes are included. After seeing loads of stills in gaming magazines from the assembly cut in '92 (along with the awesome trailer) I was so gutted when I got to see the film when released on vhs. Thank god for the Quadrilogy box set.

[@PonderingGhost]

Like sands of the hour glass, as the clock ticks, this movie ages better more and more, it will be vindicated and appreciated. I have always seen this. I am glad people are realizing this as time goes on.

[@NotMorganFreeman.]

I bought 2 boxes of these cards when they came out. One to keep sealed and one to open and file into a binder. Both of which were lost when I moved out of state. I thought they were great and I coveted them along with the rest of my alien collection. It was great to reminisce about them.

[@philversion1383]

Loved this video! Old trading card sets are usually a gold mine for finding potential lost media in what was a pre internet time. I did have some of the 1979 Alien film ones back at my parents house somewhere, must track them down.

[@BradAaronTaylor]

I love this video!! Nobody does it quite like Alien Theory.

[@dirtybird6669]

Every time you mention Dark Horse Comics it hurts my heart. I had almost all the colonial Marines, genocide, Earth Wars, AVP on Ryushi, many variations of Alien versus Predator, music of the spears, I think one was called salvation, newt's tale, Alien 3, and so many more including the alien magazines from the UK. And what did I do with them? I didn't even sell them while I was Clearing House. I threw them away! Dear God what was I thinking?!? I didn't realize what gems I was holding on to. Well at least I still kept the Labyrinth series.

[@CordellPotts]

I left half my comic book collection on the side of the road in a Cadillac that died halfway tween home and Austin TX. All of my AvP, my Earth Wars, My original Eisner Spirit Comics , and The 1st appearances of Deadpool & Jubilee. I get horribly sad every time I think about them, or when my now 15yr old son asks if I have them. I know your pain.

[@dirtybird6669]

@@CordellPotts HTX sez 'what's happ'nin"

[@JohnInTheShelter]

As a fan of the series since I saw ALIEN opening week--my first R movie--I have to say, you put out very good, pertinent content. There are a lot of Alien-related accounts, but I appreciate that you only post when you actually have something to say. Keep up the good work.

[@organicketchup5171]

I think it’s possibly longer than three days? Clemens or Aaron mentions a ship coming to get Ripley in about a week, then when Golic frees the alien, the ship is only about 6 hours away. You’d know more than I would though!

[@leonefurlan137]

I think the change in "rescue arrival" time changed when Ripley scanned herself in the eev with Aaron,they mentioned that it was connected to the mainframe of W.Y.,so as soon the company saw what was inside Ripley,the priorities "changed"!

[@organicketchup5171]

@@leonefurlan137 you're probably right, man. Very good observation. Incidentally the 'ticking clock' element of Alien 3's story is one of the things I really like about it: the race to destroy the alien before the ship arrives. It's quite exciting and dramatic when it finally does, too.

[@BlueMarsalis]

Love this, looking forward to Project 4K for Alien³ immensely.

[@1995RangeRover]

I was 22 and I saw this in the theater. I wasn't aware of trading cards for this film at the time. Great vid as usual!

[@gunmetal2445]

I didn't know the whole event took less then three days. A very interesting way to look back at the film.

[@chestbuster1987]

What a joy it is every time you upload.

[@CSC52698]

Definitely got all notifications on for @AlienTheory. Can't wait to check this video out. Especially if it's in regards to Alien3. Alien3, is my favourite Alien film. I think it's very underrated. Loved both Cuts, of course I love the Assembly Cut more, because the more the merrier.

[@42ndStreetMatthew]

I had an unopened pack of these for years. Finally opened them a year or so ago. Glad I got to see the cards!

[@regod4772]

What ones did you get?

[@dominicksignoretti315]

I ACTUALLY DID BUY A FEW INDIVIDUAL PACKS OF THESE TRADING CARDS WHEN I BOUGHT ALIENS : GENOCIDE …… I BOUGHT ALL 4 so I’m not 100% what year it was back in the 90’s but all books were out and the trading cards I have them somewhere maybe in my attic I’ll have to look 👀 BUT I HAD TOTALLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT THEM UNTIL I CAME UPON THIS VIDEO AND IT JOGGED MY MEMORY THANKS FOR THAT !!!!

[@Merylstreep1949]

Totally awesome I definitely want these Alien 3 was the only one I saw in the theater until Prometheus

[@dorontsur]

I admire your dedication. Thank you.

[@barryauguste9734]

Fascinating find AT....filling out the timeline like this gives a sense of the evolution of the beast. I wonder what the timeline was for Alien and Aliens? Thank you sir....

[@fka322]

Thanks for this video. I owned some of these and recognized there were parts not included in the theatrical version.

[@CaptainKiLL83]

My brother and I collected these in the 90's...I dont think we ever had the whole set but I definitely remember the information on the cards didn't match the VHS movie, but matched with the novel...

[@wartooth88]

Not a popular opinion. However, Alien 3 is still among my faves since it is my first introduction to the xenomorph universe.

[@awarriorsrage6489]

I hate that you dont make content every day for me to watch and listen to. How dare you have a life and make me wait for such great content 😂

[@mattbatesteacher]

30 plus years ago. No way I am that old....does math... Damnit.

[@chriskennedy6300]

Loving every second of your video, mate. Thank you... Big ALIEN fan since the 1990s. 👽👍

[@morbidone88]

Love the channel man, donated awhile back on a livestream, had to support the channel. Keep grinding my man 💪

[@shawnc5244]

Oh wow. The ol movie trading cards. Havent thought about those in years. Never had Alien3 but had all of TMNT Secret of the Ooze and most of Terminator 2. Those were the days, but I still have multiple series of Marvel trading cards.

[@jamesbuckingham77]

It's interesting how Alien 3 has kind of become more talked about than the first two films.

[@SSS.1984]

On a somewhat related note, will you ever be exploring the possibility that Riddick from "Pitch Black" & it's sequels has a connection to Fury 161? The fact that David Thwohy had a hand in one of the many Alien 3 scripts combined with his later creation of the Riddick universe has always made me wonder whether the two seemingly unrelated stories could perhaps take place in the same universe at different points in time? Perhaps the Furia homeworld of Riddick is the planet which Fury 161 used to be? Riddick's birth on such a legendarily violent planet might explain his own violent tendencies & perhaps his frequent spells in various space prisons reveal subconscious urge to return "home" or at least a place like it? Your (excellent) video on "Outland" really got me thinking about just how vast the Alien universe could be if we join the dots of our imaginations.

[@christopherhernandez78]

They do give a deeper perspective if that is accurate.

[@SpecialOrder935]

I like the idea of trying to communicate with the Alien , in the novelisation of the original movie ash asks “ have you tried communicating with it “ in answer to the crew wanting to kill it The scene of David talking to the neomorph is probably my favourite in the whole movie ( other than the chestburster)

[@chiefhowlingwolfhannibal7360]

Awesome! You know everytime I hear your voice I think I'm hearing Space Marine Hicks..you sound just like him!😃

[@GenX_Catholic]

Dillon using Ripley as a shield. Really changes things.

[@georgehenry76]

Can you narrate all of my audiobooks please?

[@macwade2755]

Great Video Alien Theory! Maybe Ripley 8 wrote them!

[@damiencrespan8957]

I love this channel

[@mgabriel2636]

All footage should be available as clips so you can assemble your own cut!

[@Zeithri]

I Love these. No I never owned these. I did own some Jurassic Park ones though. I've never seen that scene at 16:20 ! I wanna see the whole scene!

[@ChrisDanceMusic]

Thanks man, love anything Aliens i can watch

[@VenusHeadTrap2]

Yes! More Alien 3 content! Nom nom nom nom

[@Lazarus1095]

What we've got here is a classic case of Lovecraft Syndrome- the uncontrollable compulsion to write down what is happening even as one is being devoured by a bloody great big monster from Beyond.

[@roadkillofficialaustralia]

So, the question is and that no one I've ever seen answer, is what happened to the Sulaco? Besides the miracle of an egg secreted to the bulkhead inside the Sulaco, an issue I had with Alien 3 was the fact the cryo-tubes are different from the ones used in ALIENS!

[@grapeshot]

I've always liked Aliens 3 I know it gets a lot of hate in some quarters. And I especially like the director's cut. The one inmate the one who called the xenomorph a dragon. He gets a lot more screen time in a director's cut.

[@_Omega_Weapon]

What's up Smoked buffalo Yankee soldier! Another atheist Alien fan!

[@regod4772]

@@_Omega_Weapon I love alien 3 I just hate the special effects they look so tacky compared to aliens

[@_Omega_Weapon]

@@regod4772 I thought it was just ok. They should've went with a movie based off the Alien: Earth Wars comics imo, and yes, I agree some of the effects were pretty tacky.

[@regod4772]

@@_Omega_Weapon I think I would have been really happy with any version that didn't kill off Hicks and newt at the start lol

[@00nick7]

Yes! A new vid!!

[@YourBoyWang]

Assembly Cut redeems A3 IMO

[@filmbuff2777]

Great video.

[@laverniustucker8198]

Now we know that Hicks survived, via Statsis Interrupted

[@andyl8055]

Interesting … these cards had a slight inconsistency with “spitting acid”. Obviously didn’t become canon.

[@LazzarrusLong]

I was wondering about that myself. I definitely do not recall any spitting aliens in any of those films. The danger was from *cutting* the Aliens and having their acidic blood spill onto you and/or onto the ship’s walls (possibly causing a hull breach).

[@andyl8055]

@@LazzarrusLong yeah. Even in Resurrection they had to kill one of their own to spill acid on the floor and escape captivity.

[@HYEpower]

i got the cards as a kid and all the comics.. i never read the cards and i only read a few of the comics. i loved aliens and i wanted them mint.. and today my comics are mint never even opened! in plastic with a cardboard support

[@johnreid9959]

Love this film

[@HackTheMovies]

I have two whole sets of these. Opened and unopened!

[@regod4772]

Do you want to sell a set

[@rickdeckard7161]

You brought up a great point on Clements asking Ripley before the autopsy if newt was her daughter. That answer from Ripley could have been more interesting like you said if she lies and says yes. Also depending on which version of Aliens had been viewed prior? Or not at all?

[@fixxxer525]

Didn't know there were trading cards.

[@javiersantanaaviles5885]

I had just imagine Ellen Ripley playing Yugi Oh against the Xenomorph saying IT´S TIME FOR A DUEL

[@shainewhite2781]

Thanks for the video!! See you later!! Stay safe.😊

[@adelinrapcore]

Alien 3 is a masterpiece.

[@jataviouswilliamson976]

i wish Burke didn't die in Aliens in 1986 but Burke should I've Died in Alien 3 in 1992 with An baby Alien Xenomorph is coming out of Him just like Kane from Alien in 1979😢

[@regod4772]

The problem with that is Burke would have been happy to wait for weyland to turn up and be put on ice to have the alien removed which would mean Burke getting what he wanted all along .I personally wish the deleted scene with Burke attached to the wall via alien resin and Ripley given him a grenade would be added to the aliens film . although I do understand their reason for leaving it out as it would have been a too quick cycle for Burke being taken mounted face hugger doing its job and burke waking up all before Ripley bumps into him while looking for newt

[@VikingTeddy]

Someone was a bit confused. "Coming down from orbit too fast" and getting the bends is the silliest thing I've heard on a while 😆 Even if the capsule was somehow leaking, leading to a thinner atmosphere inside, the pressure would *increase*, not decrease like when you come up from under water. I think the facepalm left an imprint on my forehead...

[@infinitecanadian]

That alien wasn't bigger than the others. If anything, it was smaller.

[@ghostofwar5430]

I always taught runner was smaller than warrior and drone

[@Monty-or9sb]

I had a set of Batman Returns cards back then lol

[@kevinblackbird8302]

What if she recorded these data logs after she was cloned in Alien Resurrection and was being asked about her memories before she killed herself. She was being experimented on.🤔

[@00nick7]

"How come you guys don't freeze him?!"

[@xmini-ul7je]

I don't know why today everybody took the trend of calling the Alien "xenomorph", in the movies only happened once or twice, never liked that many people replaced the name of the creature because they wan't to sound more technical. In these cards that you showed here it's amazing to see/hear what was normal up until the early 2000s, the Alien is called "Alien", the movie isn't called "Xenomorph", it's called "Alien" so name the creature like that. Even Ed Boon when he put the Alien in MKX said that they don't called the character "Xenomorph" when he was asked about the character in the game. These cards are the perfect example of how people perceived the creature until the times of "the experts" (nowadays). C'mon, Gorman wasn't talking about the Alien itself, he was descrbing a generic creature but now everybody want to speak with his terminology. Let's call the Alien "Alien" again, everybody!. See ya.

[@meidamx]

Get some.

[@rickdeckard7161]

PS am I the only one that notices newt moving in her cryo tube?

[@SkyFly19853]

I love that video. Almost better than the movie itself...

[@AccessBypass]

You should do an audio book

[@ammosophobia]

Was there ever a push online later-on for the VHS or DVD?

[@Kroggnagch]

I thought the Runner was smaller than a typical Drone like Big Chap??

[@Punmaster9001]

Shut up! 30 years ago?! UGH I'm old 👴 I'm sure I've seen the cards at some point, but I don't remember them otherwise. The description of the alien as being bigger sounds like the version that infected the cow. Though that not afraid of fire thing sounds odd.

[@Mandopredator87]

can you do the comparison of alien 3 and alien resurrection. alien resurrection came out 25 years ago

[@stick2pacman804]

It always made me wonder why the EEV never carried any weapons?

[@apphappy3796]

YES! I remember the old days for sci fi movie as well and this film was a train wreck even before it came to screen for screenplay and directors. It was said that this film shouldn't have been made at all especially the way it was made about the story timeline. I have a fan made video of Aliens 3 version (the way it should have been) of a version that most Aliens fans would like to have seen where "Hicks" AND "Newt" survived.

[@magnenoalex2]

But how dost one read all the books and comics in chronological order along with the films

[@DarkraiNewmoon]

Would you like a list? I can give you a list of both the canon (2014 onward) and non canon (1986 - 2013) books in order. The canon books are the most relevant currently.

[@regod4772]

@@DarkraiNewmoon could you send me a copy of the list as well please

[@DarkraiNewmoon]

@@regod4772 It's going to be a long wall of text, so be ready. 2093 - Prometheus (movie), 2103 - Covenant Origins (novel), 2104 - Covenant, (movie and novel), 2122 - Alien (movie), 2137 - Isolation (game), 2137 - Isolation (novel), 2137 - Blackout (game), 2137 - 2138 - Defiance (comic), 2139 - Prototype (novel), 2140 - Resistance (comic), 2145 - Rescue (comic), 2159 - Out of the Shadows (novel), 2172 - Echo (novel), 2178 - Dust to Dust (comic),* 2179 - River of Pain (novel), 2179 - Aliens: Special Edition (movie), 2179 - Alien³ (movie),* 2179 - The Cold Forge (novel), 2180 - Annual #1 (comic), 2184 - Into Charybdis (novel), 2186 - Colony War (novel), 2187 - Inferno's Fall (novel), 2188 - Enemy of my Enemy (novel),* 2190's - Vasquez (novel),* 2198 - Dark Descent (game), 2200 - Bloodlines (comic), 2202 - Infiltrator (novel), 2202 - Fireteam Elite + Pathogen Expansion (game), 2202 - Revival (comic), 2214 - Aftermath (comic), 2295 - Dead Orbit (comic), 2381 - Resurrection (movie),* 2497 - Sea of Sorrow (novel), 2514 - Phalanx (novel). Aliens: Bug Hunt is a short story anthology with stories through the Alien timeline, mostly from 2187 - 2189. *Dust to Dust's date is an estimation. I've seen it in 2178 and 2185. *The Alien³ and Resurrection novels are 100% worth reading. *Enemy of my Enemy had no official date yet, but very likely to be the year after Inferno's Fall. *Vasquez has no date either, but guessing by her kid's story it could be in the 2190's. Tubular! Hope this helps!

[@regod4772]

@@DarkraiNewmoon wow now at least I know how to fill in the gaps in my alien knowledge thankyou very much I really appreciate your help

[@DarkraiNewmoon]

@@regod4772 you're welcome. I've also timelined out the RPG, short films, short stories, etc, but it's all too much to go in a KZbin comment.

[@jedisaiyajin2112]

Didn't know those cards existed. Be cool if they made more

[@alexmartin3143]

Pathogen is out now. Can you stream it for us eventually?

[@AlienTheory]

I was going to tonight but something came up. Planning to stream tomorrow evening!

[@jataviouswilliamson976]

i wish Col Hicks and Newt and Bishop and Turk and Jones The Cat And Ellen Ripley Didn't die in Alien 3 in 1992 But Jones The Cat is still in Gateway station during Alien 3 in 1992😢

[@MartenFerret]

"Lightyears were compressed into human seconds" That right there tells me the rest isn't worth reading, as the author believes a lightyear is a measure of time, not distance. Also, how is a human second different from that of, say, a lobster's or a potato's?

[@SecNotSureSir]

What is O-Thirteen Hundred Hours?

[@regod4772]

1pm

[@SecNotSureSir]

@@regod4772 no, 1pm is 1300 hours. 01300 hours is not a thing. For example: zero-nine hundred hours is 0900. Ten hundred hours is 1000. Midnight, is zero-hundred hours, 0000. I see 01300 and I ask, "what the hell?".

[@regod4772]

@@SecNotSureSiro sorry I see what you mean lol . Maybe it's coz there on a different planet the planet rotate at a different speed meaning more hours in the day .alot more hours if there's a 01300 hours lol

[@SecNotSureSir]

@@regod4772 I'd believe that. Nice theory.

[@MEGAMAGA76]

Those anyone know how they made Ripleys eye red throughout the film? Was Sigourney injured during filming? Was it movie magic?

[@regod4772]

They poked her in the eye LOL

[@norikotakaya14292]

I love the video but I have one thing to nitpick with you and that's your reading of military time. You're adding a 5th number to a 4 digit time system. It's not _"0:1000"_ hours or _"0:1100"_ hours when referring to the double digit numbers. It is just _"1000"_ hours. You would use a zero on the single digit numbers such as _"0200"_ hours or _"0700"_ hours. Sorry to be so anal about this. I'm a US Marine and I use military time all damn day. Keep up the good work. I like your channel very much.

[@SmokiestJoe]

Oh-ten-hundred?? You mean ten-hundred hours?

[@loyaltyisroyalty5616]

Yassss

[@dannywhite9975]

Roughly speaking A3 has been just an unthinkable huge ugly waist of potential anyways, it's still worth watching bcz of some memorable moments n' (above all ) Sigourney Weaver sublime performance 💔

[@BUDBLOOOD]

✌️😎👍

[@xenomorphqueenqueenalien6501]

Hey Alien Theory love your videos pls do a video about the Brothers Xenomorphs Mozart and Ol Blue these two had realtionship with a human

[@morbidone88]

Ew

[@tpndgo2061]

🤪

[@philipkollberg]

To me Alien 3 and 4 was just a nightmare for Ripley and all this was just a dream. A new movie should pick up from Aliens.