Rise of Skywalker: How Palpatine Returned, Explained

[@ScreenCrush]

What did you think of Rise of Skywalker?

[@holladaycubed]

Reel Underrated- Movie Podcast on Spotify has my thoughts on it.

[@anakin_black]

Why would you guys spoil it for the rest of us?

[@yotoontok7436]

*EPIC*

[@rejachemno]

It rised my Skywalker.

[@mrgriply]

Spoiler in the title has pissed me off no end.

[@azdgariarada]

"Should more of any kind of reasonable explanation been in the movie?" No no dude, it's totally acceptable to expect people to need to read 16 different novels, comic books, watch kids cartoon adaptations, and play a few video games in order to understand the backstory and make any sense of a single major movie trilogy.

[@kevinmccabe3984]

You get it

[@daviderickson8699]

And for those of us who haven't played video games since, like, Galaga, will I still get the story line if I suck at the game? What if I can't complete the game, will the story never happen the same way? :-)

[@andrewmeyer3599]

@@daviderickson8699 Then they expect you to just watch the cinematics on KZbin but then you're missing out on tiny details that are super cool. So yeah, you get kinda fucked over

[@encyclopediaamericana7234]

@@daviderickson8699 that's just it. These new movies are trash.

[@eliasmiranda2358]

Star Wars is becoming such a mass media lore chaos

[@fishingluhrs8678]

Pretty ticked off that Anakin wasn't shown in this movie as a force ghost, after all, he is the chosen one.

[@arthurmorel1943]

MaRay Sue is the chosen one now.

[@everpuremusic]

You just missed it at 1:10 where a scene of the original (not yet ruined by George Lucas in the "updated" versions) Episode 6 is shown. Originally, Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker stood next to Yoda and Obi-Wan as an old man (which he was indeed at the time of Episode 6, when he died in Luke's arms. Lucas needlessly replaced that with Hayden Christensen showing up as the younger Anakin Skywalker... Totally useless change from the original movie.

[@supreme_leader5135]

He was a voice and it worked pretty well in the context of the story imo.

[@ThePunkdude1]

@@supreme_leader5135 No

[@tysargent9647]

If that's sarcasm, then Anakin was indeed the chosen one. If not, Palpatine somehow found a way to win in Return of the Jedi, and in that case, I'm impressed.

[@hesh9fivemusic924]

Lets be real. The clowns at Disney didn’t have any of this in mind lol.

[@ADeFilho]

100% Agree this Sequel Trilogy is a complete JOKE!!! no matter how people try and explain it.

[@Tylnorton]

@@ADeFilho Funny you say that because most fake fans that constantly whined about the last 3 movies fail to prove why this trilogy was a joke.

[@Tylnorton]

Because they didn't make the movie

[@ADeFilho]

@@Tylnorton well I don't think they have to prove anything, I mean if they like I did, saw it and didn't like it, that's all that needs to be said about. You accept their opinion on the sequel trilogy and keep it moving.

[@gujwdhufjijjpo9740]

Tylnorton - there’s tons of videos on the internet explaining every flawed moment. People have explained why it’s garbage many times.

[@gavensedgwick6516]

Imagine trying to do Disney's job for them for none of the money.

[@braquemar]

They do it for free

[@eccentricjoe5410]

This was explained in the movie and hinted at in several books, no one is doing their job except themselves

[@gavensedgwick6516]

@@eccentricjoe5410 If everyone is doing their job, your job must be to sum up entire videos in one sentence (You're doing a great job, btw) Are you also not getting paid by Disney or are you not getting paid by this channel?

[@bumonthecorner13]

@@eccentricjoe5410 your an idiot he is refering to the legends material they threw that this is a copy of. If you knew any thing about Star Wars you would know it was refering to those who came up with the stuff only to have Disney steal it from them, with a loop hole that kept them from getting paid for it. Your a jack ass STFU!

[@imperiumromanum7375]

Ya I'd do it for free

[@McSuperfly101]

Palpatine: “If you strike me down my spirit will enter you and I will rule the galaxy!” Rey: “Okay thanks for telling me what not to do... also, gross”

[@mikimiyazaki]

He tried to enter his granddaughter via palpating her spiritually.

[@McSauron73]

Then she did it, nothing happened

[@dfhellraiser4td]

@@McSauron73 no, she didn't. She deflected his dark energy back at him. It was a purely defensive move. She did not strike him down.

[@McSauron73]

Oh sorry, I missed the bit where he said " if you strike me down with your lightsaber from the top of my left shoulder down to my waist while I do some sith incantation, my spirit will enter you and I will rule the galaxy" you cant just make stuff up to suit the situation that's in front of you. Oh wait........

[@tomkocian6710]

@@McSauron73, nothing happened because she died immediatelly after.

[@mattp6089]

How did Palps come back? Di$ney got to the third movie with no plan whatsoever and forgot to have a villain in place, that's how.

[@Derexican]

This sounds about right. I'm happy he came back but the story was so messy and all over the place.

[@mattp6089]

@@Derexican To accept the return of Palpatine is to accept the failure of Luke, Vader and the Rebellion to take him down. There's no way I'm doing that. Star Wars ends with Return of the Jedi.

[@josephsweeney1261]

Matt P not really cause as stated in this, they suggested palpetine in the books and games?

[@xNINJ4xSTE4LTHx]

@@mattp6089 I mean no one bitched about palpatine's return when legends was canon. It just shows how much foresight this man puts into his plans.

[@mattp6089]

@@xNINJ4xSTE4LTHx Yeah maybe they should have bitched more. People shouldn't come back from the dead.

[@tristankrieger8264]

Angry Joe said it best: "If I have to access something outside of the game in order to understand the story in the game, that game has failed its narrative". Not an exact quote but close enough and holds true to movies as well.

[@4llerz]

Whos Joe ?

[@reneurrutia-lopez1698]

ALLeRz joe mama

[@SteveSmith-rt7wx]

One of the Mr Plinkett reviews said basically the same thing, "Don't any of you faggots start going on about how it was explained in a book, or comic, or video game. I don't give a shit, the film should stand of its own accord" Paraphrasing a bit, but yeah, a good movie doesn't require supplemental materials

[@encyclopediaamericana7234]

Or novels

[@mysticdragonwolf89]

In his rant on all the new trilogy- Mauler did the same thing - any movie series that relies on external media to explain the narrative of the current narrative- world building that requires prior knowledge that isn’t given by the prior movies, will ultimately fail as a story cause most of the audience probably don’t have the times, funds, or interest to seek out said media like some Black Friday treasure hunt except you don’t have the map, Disney does

[@justinpachi3707]

The real question is who Palpatine shacked with to have a son.

[@catamaransailor8531]

I guess he payed top dollars for a service. Dont yall agree ;)

[@princeferran5400]

Kevin Prima if you’re king of the goddamn galaxy then even with those looks you can do whatever

[@guilhermefranco2930]

Me one question the entire fucking movie

[@davidcartagena1272]

He used the force to create life

[@justinpachi3707]

David Cartagena The Dark side of the Force is pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

[@elenakendrick6279]

Palpatine is the cockroach of star wars. You think you use enough raid and this bitch crawls right back up the drain and bring a few clones back too

[@mindyschocolate]

Elena Kendrick lol

[@KennyLastname]

Perfect

[@JessicaGarcia-xf9wr]

Elena Kendrick lol true.. like how does he not die

[@tomhill3248]

People like em too much as a villain. So he comes back. Ya know Vegeta was supposed to stay dead too? Remember Freiza killing him? That was supposed to stick. He was too popular to stay dead.

[@TroyconnorB]

Lmao

[@clockpenalty]

To add to the last point: it's not just that Lando is a smooth talker, it's that the legend of Luke Skywalker has spread across the galaxy and sowed the seeds of rebellion already

[@wythore]

Uhm bro, you're comenting on the wrong video. You're thinking of the Plot twist one, this is about Palpatine

[@supreme_leader5135]

Wrong video but I fully agree with that.

[@trademarkedtrademarktm6048]

4:46 ARE YA'LL NOT GOING TO ADDRESS THAT THIS IS FROM A SCENE IN TOY STORY 2, JUST RECOLORED IN RED?!

[@CricetoFunni]

I just watched toy story 2 and realized that, kinda lazy on their part.

[@OTTOAUDIO]

Gameboy-Steve Gaming they do this tongue in cheek stuff

[@AB-xd8hm]

SW ep 7 should've been about the contingency plan, ep 8 about the civil war between First Order and Palpatin's cultists and ep 9 about the the devil's bargain between the surviving Imperials and Rebels who temporarily unite to stop Palpatin's forces. Basically the Star Wars version of Lord of the Rings.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

It does feel like there was a whole OTHER trilogy going on offscreen.

[@KC-cb7ov]

AB I like that direction. I would have made Palpatin became an anti hero who’s helps the new Jedi fight a new enemy from the unknown regions. Have the rebels unite with the first order. Let the face an enemy that is like the reaper. Harvesting life from planets and Luke seeks our Palpatin to construct a weapon to defeat the enemy. Have Rey either being a Skywalker or a genetic clone of Anakin, them the only clone they was successfully. Have episode 9 have the Jedi and sith settle their differences to fight a common enemy. Have anakin force ghost visit palpatin to plea with him to save the galaxy. Have palpatin sacrifice himself at the end to save his empire and galaxy. A bit of fan service that would actually tie up Anakins prophecy with the entire saga. Have kylo Ren an agent sent by Luke to spy on the first order. When kylo kills Han it’s more impacting because his only doing his job to. Han must die so Kylo can find out about this new threat the empire fears.

[@Daniel.RF.Davidson]

@@KC-cb7ov I just don`t understand why not call a master on SW like Filoni to write the PLOT for the whole trilogy. Why in the HELL, in modern days, would you start a new trilogy without a PLOT plan for all 3 movies? Geez... I LOVE your idea by the way.

[@philipwilliams6307]

@@KC-cb7ov i had an idea very similar to yours, except it was based on how the last film should've been, building off of TFA and TLJ; basically Snoke discovers an enemy from the unknown regions so large that he needs the galaxy to help fend them off, in his eyes the darkside is the only way to defeat them so that's why he's so focused on beating the resistance so that he can bolster the first order without them getting in the way because they don't see the bigger picture... he thinks getting someone like Rey to the darkside would give them a better chance at defeating this looming threat. So when he dies in The Last Jedi, everyone is oblivious to his real plans and why the first order was actually created, because Snoke to everyone else is just an evil sith. Also the arms dealer in the last Jedi talked about how there's more grey between the good and the bad, how he supplied for both sides during the war... and yoda burnt down the tree talking about how the old ways have died, the past is in the past... basically opening up the possibility of seeing the Grey Jedi exist. So in the Rise of Skywalker, things should've started with Kylo Ren finding out what his Supreme Leader Snoke was upto, and realizing the darkside had clouded Snokes mind, that the only way to defeat this outside threat is to unite the first order with the resistance, and make a call of arms across the galaxy, so that you can still get that awesome scene of everyone showing up. Rey and Kylo become a grey Jedi duo, the balance between the lightside and the darkside, and in that balance they put their differences aside to fight together for the sake of their galaxy... and in the end bring a new Jedi order which isn't flawed like the old, and isn't flawed like the sith either, they use both sides. And of course this all means that there's more fighting scenes, a common enemy they face, a way to make the last Jedi actually feel like it didn't fuck everything up unlike it still does... and it doesn't undo all the progress of the previous 8 films. Every movie and character would have importance in the film, each film building off the next... the movie we got was the safe way of trying to please fans even tho it had to fuck the lore and films that came before in order to pull it off.

[@KC-cb7ov]

Philip Williams Would love to see this idea as the main script. The gray Jedi idea makes sense.

[@KennyLastname]

I don't agree with the whole "him switching bodies" theory. In this movie he's literally a living corpse, barely alive. His pupils were nearly non-existent and his finger bones were visible. He wasn't even able to walk. (Until he got healed, of course.) If he were to switch bodies, why would he choose an old damaged one? Why not make a completely new one? My point is, he has obviously been through alot, hinting that he's still the original Palpatine. Having barely survived being thrown through a tube in the death star, probably floating in space for all we know, until his little cult found his body and helped bring him back to life.

[@ScreenCrush]

I changed the thumbnail and title temporarily, but his return is not a spoiler. He's on the poster and in every trailer.

[@JonaJefe]

Honestly, I avoid at all coast to watch trailers/posters for big franchises I love, because even though they're official they're some sort of spoilers.

[@ScreenCrush]

@@JonaJefe You know, I did that for Last Jedi, and it vastly improved my movie experience. It was hard though. I had to walk out during trailers, or put my hand son my ears and hum while my wife tapped my head. She's very understanding.

[@JonaJefe]

@@ScreenCrush Glad to find someone else doing the same, it is really difficult and annoying to be close to a 100% spoiler free experience, but as you said, it really improves a movie experience. You people should try it!

[@pacoramon9468]

He returned bacause of lazy writting.

[@canuck_gamer3359]

I'm curious how would you have felt had there been some hint of Palpatine in the other two films? I think if that were the case, there would have to be some changes but at least there would be some feeling of continuity. But had that been the case, would you have been alright with it? For me it's hard to say...it really would depend on what the other two would look like if that were the case.

[@johnhawkins4135]

They should have just made Snoke Plageus former master who has been lurking in the corner of the galaxy for when the force awakens. That scar on Snoke should have been a scar from a younger Yoda or after Snoke kills his master. That would have been perfect for a spin off for Yoda, which would gross so much money regardless. Emperor Palpatine should have been nothing other than just a notable sith who formed the empire and oppression of the entire galaxy. Meanwhile Snoke should have been the more of an Old Republic time sith, who has preserved himself watching from the corner of the galaxy the whole time, until Rey is sensed at birth. Rey should have been the Jesus of the force matching his power and overcoming him, sacrificing herself. Leaving Ben Solo and preserving Skywalker blood. With him had being once on the dark side of the force it would put depth to him, being reformed just as his grandfather was before dying. Ben Solo being this experienced would have been careful with his students and start an academy in the honor of Luke.

[@johnhawkins4135]

Snoke could have pranked them acting as if he was dead

[@adk46er5203]

LOL!

[@laram7962]

How did Palpatine kill Rey’s parents? Did he order this as a Sith ghost?

[@Dylan-lv5pc]

He was alive all that time so he probably told someone secretly to do it

[@laram7962]

So, he didn’t come back as a clone? He was in his original body in Rise of Skywalker? Okay, that makes sense. Thanks! 🎄🎄🎄🌟🌟🌟🌟

[@elguapo6164]

Plot holes in bad movie writting.

[@Dylan-lv5pc]

Lara M yeah because he was able to fake his death or something like that

[@Dylan-lv5pc]

Lara M btw merry Christmas 🎄

[@leftynotliberal]

JarJar Abrams: Do you think anyone saw those Mortis episodes of Clone Wars? Let go with that.

[@Galadrimmo]

But how did he get all those spaceships?

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Supposedly built for 30 or 40 years in secret. With some secret tech, maybe from ancient Sith?

[@RUBBER_BULLET]

@I am Supernaut And then buried them all, with all the crews inside.

[@captainsteve7817]

Star Forge *cough*

[@Readwandx]

He buys them from the sellers in Canto Bight

[@SirTorcharite]

@@captainsteve7817 I want this to be the answer so bad

[@Checobeep]

Correction: Sauron was *not* an eye until he got the Ring back. He had already taken physical form by the time of The Fellowship of the Ring, as we learn from Gollum. The Eye shown in Jackson's movies is a visual metaphor for Sauron's presence and searching mind.

[@cillianleader5268]

Just if u didn’t know the thing Finn wanted to say was that he could feel the force

[@favo125125]

nickys34 TLDR

[@UpgradingAsUsual]

Um, he came back because Rian Johnson and Kathleen Kennedy killed Snoke.

[@jasonfagan1454]

Sh#t

[@jsevere4721]

JazOneTwoo lol. Seems obvious, doesn’t it?

[@UpgradingAsUsual]

I need to go back and edit my comment. There, that's better.

[@gwendytequiere]

"Should more of that been in the movie?" - Yes. A three hour long movie, with more suspense and tension, more intimate danger (a few incredible Sith helping Palpatine come back instead of this crazy football field of them) and Anakin Skywalker appearing to Kylo Ren, and helping him come back home. That would have made me weep for joy. And instead, I'm crying cuz I'm so sad at how it turned out. 😭😭😭

[@grandmasteryoda5983]

It was a good movie full of nostalgia please stop nothing needed changing

[@oswaldmyer9500]

@@grandmasteryoda5983 It was not a good movie. It was trash.

[@grandmasteryoda5983]

@@oswaldmyer9500 shut

[@defendersofthefaith8157]

So...I had to read a novel, several comics, watch an animated series and play a video game to understand how Palp came back... I wonder why these movies are so maligned??

[@doctornico1759]

No, you can just google it and find videos like this one which explain what you didn't know.

[@defendersofthefaith8157]

@@doctornico1759 I'm an original die-hard. Was 14 in 1977 when Star Wars came out. Read several novels, some comics (never got into the animated series), but it was just too much "canon" to follow from too many different sources. I actually knew most of that. In fact, not sure why you needed to go any further than Dark Empire which gave you all you needed: clone technology and some mumbo-jumbo ritual (if I remember correctly). Point being, you shouldn't have to need all that OR a Google search to find out. It should be reasonably understandable without all that. And how do you propose people for information on material they didn't know existed?

[@doctornico1759]

If you don't understand a stuff like for example "How did Maz find Luke lightsaber ?" Wich wasn't explained in the movie, just google it. It's not that hard. You can just read wookiepedia, the Star Wars wikipedia too. No need to buy extra stuff if you don't want to...

[@daviderickson8699]

@@doctornico1759 Google, wookiepedia, youtube, etc are all ginormous dumping grounds, just like the internet itself. I've watched a couple videos like this already, and I've not seen any overlap in the recommended source material among several commentators. There are dozens of conflicting theories on everything, and someone who doesn't know these things, and doesn't see a comment like yours (buried among many one a video that's buried among many) won't even know what they're missing. The point is, the people putting out the movies themselves, advertise the movie in trailers that preview the movie. They never use that same medium to inform you, "Continuing the events of the novel trilogy and the storyline told in gaming series ." So unless you're in the secret club on this stuff, you don't know there's a backstory you are missing that will be vital to the plot. Also, a movie audience shouldn't be assumed to be a multi-media audience. The film franchise started in the late 1970s and that audience shouldn't be assumed to be consumers of cartoons, comics and video games. I flipped through a couple of the cartoons on TV and found them so hard to watch (as an adult) that I couldn't even fathom them being considered part of the movie continuity. "Oh, Rey is in this predicament because of what that one cartoon character did and also something that was a video segment of some game and a couple of these comic book panels and that other guy's novel?" Yeah, that's the theater experience I crave...

[@celticwolff5429]

Two things: 1) If it takes that much of an explanation using multiple outside sources to understand a movie then the movie is a failure. 2) Lucasfilm decided to disregard the EU but still raid it for many ideas.

[@banehog]

3) Butthurt

[@ianhubbard641]

That was the point of making the EU non canon, so they could pick and choose what they wanted to use as they went along

[@ChimpingBulldog]

@@banehog spoke like a true Disney Wars zombie.

[@josephtyler8240]

I’m done with this mess! I have the first 6 movies! For me it ends with Return of the Jedi! The last three makes a mess of the Star Wars trilogy!

[@ChimpingBulldog]

The prequels are great storytelling compared to this wreckage.if the Disney films have achieved anything, they have made me look at the prequels much more fondly now.

[@josephtyler8240]

Max West so true Max !

[@chillvibes375]

@Moonwatcher 92 exactly. the prequels is why I became a star wars fan in the first place. the writing sounded like a 7th grader wrote it, but overall the movies were cool.

[@Tylnorton]

The prequels are shit.

[@eddiesevilla347]

Agreed last 3 killed it for me and my son. Smh

[@deewolf1903]

"what did Finn want to tell Rey" Really? Is that really an unanswered question?

[@bradleyminshall7570]

Dee Wolf “Rey, I am force sensitive”

[@Jedi256]

@@bradleyminshall7570 That's not how the Force works!

[@phatmantv]

He wanted a piece of vanilla cake.

[@bradleyminshall7570]

Ph@tMantv Who doesn’t?

[@scotthill2230]

He wanted to say " I need soy".

[@RockManSSB]

The way I understood it in the movie was that the Palpatine present in the first 6 films was a clone, and the real Palpatine was still on the with planet controlling everything from the shadows.

[@chaveztyndale8468]

No. Palpatine died. Or, should have died. Just because cloning is possible in this universe doesn't mean everyone has a clone you can throw the defenses of bad writing on. Even if he was a clone, then why was the clone busted up and on life support.

[@skinneejay]

You crushed this video. Everyone who has issues with Palp should watch this video. If you don't read, watch, play all things Star Wars you wouldn't know this. Thank you from one star Wars nerd to another.

[@newagecinematics]

“How he came back” desperation of a good villain 😂

[@losthomas7589]

And here I thought it was because JJ is incapable of an original creative thought.

[@joemfahey]

Lol no dumbass it's because the Sith are like crazy powerful and shit. But then, ya know, a girl who fails basic training and is a worse Jedi than a 6 year old is like palpatines granddaughter and shit. So like. The daughter is strong and just like. Holds up her lightsabers that aren't even hers and just like. Melts his motherfuckin face off bro. Great fuckin movie. Great fuckin movie

[@chronolumina]

@@joemfahey I like how your grammar perfectly matches the content of your post.

[@joemfahey]

@@chronolumina I like how you're too stupid to understand a joke! 👍

[@tomcruz3774]

​@@chronolumina Not the best at reading comprehension, eh? Try reading more

[@WirelessJoeJackson]

@@joemfahey you sound so butthurt -- most people with a brain agree this movie sucked

[@BOAYang]

So he is orochimaru then

[@lindsaybellon7519]

Whosur Caddy so are Naruto and Star Wars a connected world. This oils be a great fan theory

[@Tycho]

Cant wait to see jedi' S naruto running while flasing there lightsabers and doing a lightsaber no jutsu

[@M0nst3r0711]

Thank you for using the original Jedi spirit scene and not the updated one.

[@kennethmkline23]

So, does this mean that Star Wars is actually still a good movie but the Disney and friends just have no idea how to tell it?

[@RockManSSB]

Yes

[@RockManSSB]

Car Fli “Rise of Skywalker” was a good enough ending to the third trilogy and also works as a way to also end the original trilogy. Granted yes, they could have done so much more but what we got was great. People hate on it because they wanted more, when we got a full 2 1/2 hours of a movie already.

[@LgiovanniF]

No,.it means that rebellious teens don't have a real war to protest so they protest this one because it vaguely ties in with their socialist lecturers anti big business diatribe.

[@oswaldmyer9500]

@@RockManSSB You're a moron if you thought this was a great ending to something that already had a great ending 36 years ago.

[@SavageRicktator]

Kathleen Kennedy: "You turned the fanbase against me!" George Lucas: "Your lust for political agenda, and love for modern day feminism have already done that" Kathleen Kennedy: "Don't lecture me George, I see through the toxicity of the fandom, I do not fear the woke side as you do! I have brought politics, feminism, inclusivity and diversity to my new Star Wars!" George Lucas: "Your new Star Wars?!"

[@estebangomez7955]

So fucking cringe

[@TheSkr701]

What agenda, what feminism? Shut up.

[@ReptilianRichardRamirez]

Answer : reverse force ghost Aka sith alchemy

[@tmass1]

aka shitty writing.

[@duh650dumcity]

The sith can't achieve sufficient oneness with the force in order to live after death. There is no such thing as a reverse force ghost. This is just lazy writing that undoes the first 6 movies to make Rey the chosen one instead of Anakin. It's bs.

[@ReptilianRichardRamirez]

@@duh650dumcity Iol - I fully realize that, 'reverse force ghost' was a subjective term I used to mock how ridiculous and misappropriated the lore in this 'film' was. According to the official canon lore - only Jedi / light side users can merge themselves with the force at death to produce a force spirit / ghost. The sith on the other hand use a mix of technology and alchemy to unnaturally extend their life, they can also bind their spirit to an object. You more or less just repeated what I previously said in 3 words..

[@duh650dumcity]

@@ReptilianRichardRamirez These are typed emotionless characters, my bad for the misinterpretation

[@CaddyCat]

@@ReptilianRichardRamirez isn't a dead body an object?)

[@dominiquecharley2744]

Palpatine is rich, Palpatine is a smart evil Jedi, Palpatine is a Sith.

[@rayhannugraha9713]

I feel like this trilogy isn't written as a whole like the OT. Yes, there might be some slight changes from George's original plan, but atleast he wrote all three movies at once. The sequels instead, it feels like it just adapts to what the last writer did. Which I think they decided to bring back Palps cause they killed off Snoke in TLJ. That just cheapens the death of Darth Vader imo.

[@EnzoFilmsProd]

Heard something that made sense earlier this week; If you need material outside of the existing movies to help you understand what’s going on, it’s not a good story Average audiences won’t go this deep into it That’s just the reality of making entertainment

[@magnumbeefus]

He had a conversation with yoda than heeled his broken body

[@Ziyoblader]

This is Canon until further notice

[@obiwankenobi1707]

Finn wanted to tell Rey that he was Force Sensitive. It teased on this throughout the movie

[@GunterJPN]

Not only that, but as he told Poe, he knew “what she was up against.” He knew she was a Palpatine. He said that Leia did too, and Luke tells Rey that Leia knew Rey was a Palpatine. Finn thought they were dying, so he thought he should let her know the truth about herself. And maybe in that realization, and of how strong she was in the Force, she may have been able to get them out of there.

[@obiwankenobi1707]

GunterJPN JJ Abrams confirmed it to be that he was going to tell her he was force sensitive

[@GunterJPN]

I know. But what that MEANS is that he knows her identity. He’s not JUST telling her he’s Force-sensitive in what he thinks are his last breaths. He knows her bloodline BECAUSE he’s Force-sensitive , so he was hoping she could save them. It makes no sense to say, “I’m Force-sensitive!” and then die. There’s a REASON he’s telling her.

[@obiwankenobi1707]

GunterJPN Finn hadn’t been trained in the force enough to gain this knowledge. The only reason that Luke and Leia knew was because they were strong enough in the force to have dreams and read Rey’s mind

[@GunterJPN]

He had a hunch/feeling (I forget how he describes it to Jannah). But this is the reason why he tells Poe, “You have no idea what she’s up against.” And when Poe asks, “And you do?” He says, “Yeah. I do. And so does Leia.” The big reveal of what Leia knows about Rey is her identity. She knows she is a Palpatine. And so does Finn.

[@KMantle]

Sounds like this movie should have been 4 hours long.

[@KMantle]

@Car Fli all the films are long, but they always get cut down for theatrical release or movie censorship. Thats where most plot holes come from.

[@jjlacey1970]

desperation to close the saga is how he returned

[@jasonfagan1454]

Yo Hoss

[@tomhill3248]

Thank you!

[@edgarmolina4497]

Screen crush and Fans: *Making sense of episode 9 through star wars lore* Disney: We just got high and wrote a script

[@StellarBoxer]

If Rey turned to the dark side, would she somehow get a full set of Werewolf teeth?

[@evoak8575]

Well it’s kinda known the Dark side can rot you from the inside if you take it to a real dark place it probably can mutate you so that’s what happened to dark Rey

[@tomhill3248]

No because then she wouldn't be pretty.

[@wakazuzu]

@@tomhill3248 Dark side Rey was SAF what you talking about!

[@private162]

So I'm the only one that would paup Per tine dark Rey?!

[@tomhill3248]

@@wakazuzu Exactly. Rey will be pretty no matter what. Nothing that compromised that will ever be allowed. A women isn't allowed to be ugly when she's the protagonist. Not in Hollywood.

[@sweufan]

Pretty sure you're close to the mark with this theory. The whole Exegol thing really helped in hinting at the way he returned, that Dark Side monolith/construct/building looks very, very old and the technology and Sith Alchemy things we see may be that old as well. The whole Exogal theme is very ancient, dark, cold and evil. I'd love to see it tied into a future project, something Old Republic maybe.

[@AJDOLDCHANNELARCHIVE]

This trilogy is a disaster... Disney Star Wars Sucks.

[@Yeahthatguy617]

AJD OLD CHANNEL ARCHIVE agreed

[@lazybrickproductions8776]

Amen

[@charlieg9262]

Did Palpatine die and then was resurrected? Or was his consciousness transferred to a clone ?

[@2fabdad]

Over explaining was Lucas downfall with the prequels. Let the obsessive buy toys and act out whatever senecio makes them happy. Mystery of the how will keep fans talking for years. It was a great movie. And now TLJ makes perfect sense Luke had only felt such raw power once before... in the presence of the emperor. He new all along. That’s why he cut himself off from the force.. to keep Palps in the dark... everything preceded according to Luke’s design.

[@Cryptosifu]

The prequels were amazing. There was at least a story there

[@DugrozReports]

I agree, over-explaining was bad.

[@joruusc]

I'm glad JJ paid tribute to Carrie Fisher by setting the pace to that of a manic cocaine high

[@superblasto8547]

Given the ending to Episode IX, the entire Star Wars should be called "The Palpetine Saga".

[@BJErwin]

You described Palpatine’s return better than any other that I have listened to. Good work.

[@sayangrasa]

Their don't have any villain to match Darth Vader or Palpatine. They can't bring back Darth Vader so bring back Palpatine

[@uni4rm]

TLDR: Palpatine returns via Deus Ex Machina, and this video is contrived fanfic theory. 1) uh, no, there is no reason at all to assume that Palpatine could do what his master could. Proven by the fact he never taught Anakin any of it and even admits to now Darth Vader that he's never done it. It was all just part of his continued manipulation of Anakin's perception of the Jedi. 2) Qui Gon Jinn didn't make a discernment of living verses cosmic. That's your assumption. He was telling Obi Wan to simply not let his mind wander at the expense of the now, when they had a job to do. 3) Yoda explains to Luke that the force is essentially the connective web of life in all things and that our true selves exist on a spiritual plane of existence. So no, there is one force in the movies, and there is no suggestion of any other kind. 4) Comic, comic, comic, comic....so not in the movies so again, its still a movie plot hole. 5) Jakku is a retcon of a sUpER SeCRet IQ 5000 pLaN because the current lore and overall plot of Disney Star Wars is as deep and compelling as a puddle of pee and they wrote themselves into a plothole. 6) Its never stated that Palpatine steals the "living" force. There is only one force. Not even the terrible book plot says there is (which it would have to be so in order for it to fit with the movie). JJ Abrams wanted Palpatine back, so he "mystery box" made it happen hoping maybe someone would write a book later to fill out the galaxy sized plot hole like the other movies.

[@freeyoungthug88]

i eat rocks

[@silviatrophin9955]

the worst thing that came out of this trilogy are the people that defend them and say they make sense...

[@theonlyairconditioner]

I agree

[@jack6126]

I’ll admit, they have a lot of problems. But I don’t think it’s fair to say they’re awful, bad, etc. I mean even the originals and prequels had problems, especially the prequels (and this is coming from someone who loves the prequels)

[@GregMalinao]

Goooooooood.... Could have heard that a few more times

[@88erva]

How did Palpatine return? He was reborn...through your mom.

[@ObediahPolkinghornIII-cz5io]

Yo Mama's so force-sensitive, she named your brother 'Baby Yoda Pimp'.

[@cr7skillz523]

Alright theres no way this is the last Star Wars movie

[@cbake76]

Does it explicitly state that we were looking at clones? Plagueis taught Palpatine everything he knew-which included how to create life. I don’t think we’re looking at cloning-we’re looking at something else entirely.

[@Koofumhead]

Too many chefs always spoil the good broth.

[@justincavey9163]

Thanks for filling in the gaps. I wish they had talked about it more

[@MichaelNight]

It's Disney. While falling down the shaft he encountered the blue fairy, and told her that if she keeps him alive, he'll go back to school. Plot twist: the blue fairy is a force ghost.

[@TheDetective86]

After Rey reveals her name to the old woman on Tatooine. The film should have ended with Rey’s eyes subtly turning to Sith eyes as she smiles and we hear Palpatine’s evil laugh in the background as the camera pans up implying that He successfully possessed Rey. Much like Norman Bates ending in Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho 1960.

[@boyinthecave]

Dude, there's nothing to explain! They brought back Palpatine cos they killed off Snoke in the Last Joke. It's not about the story anymore, it's about milking the cow one last time.

[@gqn2]

There is much to milk, young padawan.

[@wheezvonklaw284]

JJ is too stupid to use the Knights of Ren instead of Palpatine. He's creatively bankrupt.

[@Brett_Trego]

Wheez Von Klaw I’ll give it to you, this is the best story I’ve read that could still somehow work with the TLJ debacle!

[@opuslove5202]

After those answers, I'm done asking questions.

[@Dulcimerist]

Could there be a possibility that prior to his arrival at the Death Star 2, Palpatine sensed the possibility that the DS2 would be destroyed, and sent a clone to take his place? Perhaps the Palpatine we saw die in RotJ was simply a clone? Perhaps he controlled that clone as a proxy, like he did with Snokes. It's an interesting theory to ponder, anyway. :)

[@chaveztyndale8468]

Then why is his clone fucked up and on life support. They did that to suggest that it was his original body and not a clone. Besides, you know damn well no one at Disney thought of that.

[@thegreenreaper6660]

That one eerie scene where Palpatine sais '...some consider..unnatural"... The fáce he makes: You can see the arrogance in his expression sayng : Oh you young boy, if you only KNEW the power". He knew a lot! Darth Plaegus the Wise had taught him well, before he killed him in his sleep!

[@seapops]

Lesson of the whole movie: make sure you brush ur teeth everyday, get ur regular dental visit or you’ll end up like Palpatine with the bad case of Gingivitis and nasty Bad Breath. Aaah aahhh...I think he didn’t signed up for health insurance for years in the Galactic Empire.

[@Rockstarrclarke]

We were told in the movie. He “ somehow returned”

[@stephenjonestv6644]

Awesome video! The movie didn’t have to explain every single aspect. This is part of a 9 chapter story, and you don’t always have re-explain all the other chapters at the end. Star Wars has always left things to our imagination as fans, so it’s not completely fair that the movie is being criticized for not explaining everything. It’s sad to see some many lack imagination these days. That’s why I’m not surprised the fans like it more than the critics.

[@starter4046]

Obi Wan to Anakin: You were supposed to end the sith, not join them! Sideous to Rey: You were supposed to join the sith, not end them!

[@iateyamomscoochie7235]

User LooZer don’t compare revenge of the sigh to this dumpster fire

[@Rubashow]

He managed to return because Rian Johnson f'ed up the story of the movies. Out of choices, creativity and plot threads the script demanded him to return because he is interesting.

[@mycroftlectures]

Yep, that's pretty much how I saw it too.

[@bustanut5501]

That information about the 'sith fanboy' is, in fact, very crucial to Palpatine's return. But why did they waste this on a book? Most fans (or moviegoers in general) just watch the movies. They should be able to be enjoyable and understandable without consuming secondary media. No wonders that no one believes Abrams about the return of Palpatine being 'the plan all along'.

[@Midrule]

I’ll explain it better... They don’t have any original ideas and some guy just randomly thought of bringing him back

[@Lord_Shadowz]

Mustafar is no longer a lava planet. We saw it in the beginning of TROS. We also saw the ruins of Vader’s castle in the trees. That’s where Kylo found Vader’s wayfinder. In the Vader game the planet is now healing itself slowly over time from the lava planet back to a lush green forest planet.

[@MrQuirke9]

Best thing about the movie? Probably seeing the Ghost in action. Would of loved to see the crew

[@joshuaschoenman8212]

I would’ve liked to see the movie end slightly differently. Instead of Kylo being able to “resurrect” Rey, he fails to live up to Vader’s legacy and is unable to save someone he loves. The movie ends with the real last Skywalker (Kylo) teaching young padawans in a Jedi council like environment.

[@paladinheadquarters7776]

It definitely should have been explained in the movie

[@redmist78]

Jesus, what happened to my Star Wars? Instead of the movie explaining this we have to buy three novels and 40 comic books. Nice. I give up.

[@mobamber9172]

So is there a chance that Ben Solo can be resurrected?

[@andrewmeyer3599]

When Kylo mentions how he killed Snoke and could kill him, Palpatine then should've done a small exposition dump of how he would just come right back and talk about the process in a fanciful way like Palpatine had done to a young Anakin Skywalker

[@nathanthompson2369]

More of that should've been the focus of the last Jedi.

[@ilikepigeons6101]

JJ Abrams didn't have much of a plan for the trilogy, until Rian Johnson helped JJ give the idea, however, JJ got the direction of Star Wars with that one film.

[@blakefisher69966996]

Thank you that helped a lot

[@jeffvanmeter1330]

Speaking as a fiction author, I’ll say that from a narrative perspective, explaining all of this would have slowed down pace of the story. Perhaps a companion novel could explain some of this; but in its visual form, it is only relevant that Palpatine returned through some form of evil. This could be a combination of supernatural elements and scientific; and I believe J.J. Abrams put enough visual clues together, for the viewer to work out the basics.

[@yomems_]

Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious is the longest man lived in Star Wars its like BBY-ABY

[@isaiahgarcia163]

Yup not 900 year old yoda

[@yomems_]

@@isaiahgarcia163 oof

[@Bluesruse]

Bad script writing, that's how.

[@jasonfagan1454]

Calm down Hoss

[@gluesandwhich730]

Actually he fell coincidentally fell on that darth planet where his chair was on and didnt die so he used the force to hesl his broken body, worthikids explains it all

[@dolphim9210]

When you haven’t seen the movie and your fking recommended spoils it for you (i never saw the trailer palpatine was in)

[@fumarc4501]

I like how the Jedi have force ghosts, and the Sith are basically liches. Needing a phylactery to sustain themselves after death.

[@amcaesar]

It’s nonsense that Palpatine was always “supposed” to return. The Snoke angle makes no sense as a dupe, so let’s just call it what it is - a corporate punt to make cool stuff rather than a coordinated trilogy.

[@DatMat]

How Palpatine came back: Rian Johnson: I killed off snoke J.J. Abrams: WTF bro who's going to be the bad guy now!? Fuckin Palpatine!?

[@mikecollins2901]

If a movie requires explanations outside of the movie, then it is not a good movie. It is lazy writing and a lack of creativity. What's sad is that we as the public accept this and continue to support it. I understand your explanations, but it doesn't change the fact that the movie was not what it could/should have been. Disney SUCKS!!!!

[@ChimpingBulldog]

JJ Abrams did the same for Cloverfield, relying in viral marketing and spin offs to fill in the gaps. People fell for it then. I pity those who fell for it this time.

[@Mattball82]

I thought it was just “somehow.” 😂

[@Yoru-q3k]

Palpatine a star wars story

[@HarmonySword]

lol i had an argument with someone who said "The Rey Palpatine plot twist was foreshadowed in the first two movies" and when i asked how, he went straight to insulting me

[@joanmm2930]

Damn! That was so intense, man!

[@vclamp]

Finn wanted to tell Rey that he is Force sensitive. Although she should have thought so if that is why Kylo looked at Finn that way at the beginning of TFA. Clones do not have scars, So Palpatine's host body should have been played without make up. Strangely, deformity should have only appeared after he got 'healthier'.

[@yotoontok7436]

I love how mysterious yet the final film is, for all that was featured and reprised, TROS and TLJ, too, leave much to explore.

[@seifalah0626]

This is certainly a feasible theory. However, I believe it has more to do with his ability to cheat death. He was killed (for the most part) in Return of the Jedi. However he managed to survive (barely alive but somewhat alive none the less) and was brought to exigal by his followers (or it could be one of his guards. He still had followers and minions besides Vadar). There he was a weakened spirit living off the dark side of the force. However through that machine and with the help of his followers (as we saw on Exigal he wasnt alone) he created Snoke using the dark side of the force. He used Snoke as a pawn to turn and manipulate Ben Solo thus turning him to the dark side as well and (hopefully) preventing the force dyad from forming. However, in order for him to regain a physical form he had to undergo the dark ritual of corrupting another individual. That's why he lured in Rey. However, once he regained a physical form he became human and vulnerable which was why the dyad had weakened him and why Rey was able to kill him with his own lightning once and for all. I think that makes a lot more sense rather than it being a completely lost plot hole

[@jjstraka1982]

This is all well and good. But you can't expect 99% of your audience is going to know ANY of this. You can't make the explanation of your biggest plot swerve dependent on reading or watching a dozen pieces of expanded universe media.

[@ChimpingBulldog]

JJ did that with Cloverfield. He's a lazy idiot.

[@atkman]

@@ChimpingBulldog wasn't Cloverfield filmed entirely in 1st person? It game me a total motion sickness headache, worst movie ever