Trek Madone SLR Disc Review | Speed, specs and even more speed

In our newest review Dave casts his eye over the stunning Trek Madone SLR disc but how does stack up to its competition?
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[@LuiMaca]

Just want to compliment all involved in Road CC who have contributed to the increase in quality we see in your bike review videos. I've noticed the step up in production values. Well done👍🏼

[@roadcc]

Thanks very much 😁

[@gsmd770]

That's one bad ass bike!!!! Great video!!!

[@nickmoreno3686]

Great review man, super informative. Subscribed.

[@simonmoran6009]

Super review tks v much..,, very interesting review on the iso speed , gave me a good insight ,,☘️🇮🇪💯👍

[@owen7185]

I didn't like trek at all prior to 2018 but they've converted me to love their slr frames

[@bigdiesel6912]

hey david me too .im a cannondale man .i own a supersix evo sram red double tap (2013) its very fast but not aero.fast forward to 2021 im looking for a new ride thats race fast and aero i considered several roadies but for the first time and after test riding the trek madone slr 7 i was sold .i even liked it better than cannondale system six(sorry cannondale).

[@monkmchorning]

16 years ago, when Trek introduced the first post-Lance Madone, I told our district rep Trek needed an H1.5 geometry. At last.

[@ljiljanaprelevic7022]

A Refreshing Woo-Hoo!!

[@user-ku2bm6kw2k]

Super cool bike

[@colombianflag717]

If I have the money I will buy this bike.. is fast and super cute looking.

[@jeretalbot3912]

i have the new sl6 its as good as i would ever need, i ride weekends, very stable bike with rim brakes.

[@bigdiesel6912]

oh man still rocking the rim brakes .Well talbot go with what works for u

[@garybird8646]

I've got one and I had the older model too, I have also ridden the System Six and the S works Venge. The Madone feels stiffer at the BB than the Venge a bike that is a laterally flex bike to me. The System Six is a quick bike but maintaining that speed on UK roads is hard as the bike is a bit harsh. If Dave was riding all three aero bikes simultaneously he would have found the Isospeed more noticeable. The new Trek H2 1.5 geometry makes the bike handle a lot better (if you have the flexibility) than the older model but i'm slightly slower uphill now that I'm riding disc wheels. I've no idea why Road.cc bang on about cost so much, why can't equipment be more aspirational? this bike sells for the depreciation of most owners cars in a Year! and what about the cost per mile, it's a decent investment assuming you are not a habitual conspicuous consumer and someone that actually rides. Lastly I'm not sure if a reviewer should say in summary if they would buy it or not, it's such an individual thing what we would choose personally.

[@zakymaa]

Nice comparison between trek and venge I am glad you tried both. Any experience with Trek madone SLR disc with Tarmac in term of comfort in case you have tried Tarmac. Thanks

[@HeathyRoidz]

zakymaa tarmac is probably more confortable

[@And-rc9yy]

Interesting that you remark about UK roads. I've recently returned to the area I grew up in. I'm back riding those same roads that I was cycling on in the 80's and 90's and I swear they have not been resurfaced. My local roads have just more and more patches which are poor repairs. With the inevitable austerity that will come from C-19 I doubt any of my local roads will be resurfaced in my lifetime. I also believe we will see less road surfacing now that more people will work from home. This makes me think that old codgers like me are more likely to be buying gravel bikes rather than these 'work of art' carbon framed, carbon wheeled bikes.

[@garybird8646]

@@And-rc9yy I agree if you look at the traffic stats the volume, size and weight of cars has increased over the last three decades and let's face it most roads were not built for cars in the first place. I find it interesting that a lot of pros treat themselves to hand made steel bikes after retirement. There's something about the stored energy and spring in a quality road bike that can smooth out imperfections in road surfaces like nothing else. Gravel in the UK is basically mixed surface riding, something we have a long history of with organisations like the rough stuff fellowship dating back 80+ Years.

[@bigdiesel6912]

hey G.Bird i totaly agree.i think itsa matter of personal choice. Also i too tried several roadies Sworks tarmac /Venge. pinerello F11/F12 .and cannondale system six all different draw backs.but after finaly test riding a few times the trek madone slr i had a more comfortable ride and the iso speed worked as advertised. RK usmc retired

[@sprice0609]

I had mine delivered this week with two noticeable differences to the tested bike 1. Sram (I hope I pronounced that correctly) red AXS etap and 2. Ceramic speed BB. My old bike was Fuji Transonic 2.5 with upgraded Sram (I hope I pronounced that correctly) red etap and fulcrum Racing zero carbon wheels. This is my only comparison bike I can tell you the two bikes are leaps and bounds from each other (10 seconds over a 1min 40s Strava segment). The Aeolus XXX 6 are incredible in cross winds and the AXS gearing works a treat. If I had my time again I would not have upgraded the Fuji and invested in the Trek straight away. I could not recommend this bike highly enough.

[@zakymaa]

sprice0609 how was your experience so far and how is the bike on climbs?

[@sprice0609]

zakymaa The bike is great for climbing, although if you are after pure climbing you’d definitely buy the Emonda SLR instead. The bike weighs in at 7.8kg (54cm frame) without pedals. Having said that, I’m definitely quicker uphills than the Fuji, and way faster downhills. All round the Madone is just better at converting your given power to speed.

[@BlazingBigJointz]

@@sprice0609 8kg with pedals/cages and 10000 quid? Hooley Dooley...

[@sprice0609]

Paul W I’m in Australia and I can you tell you I paid nowhere near 10000 pounds, and I had a project one icon paint scheme.

[@BlazingBigJointz]

@@sprice0609 Which model Madone did you buy and do you know the weight of your build and frame size please? I love the Madone looks but the SLR9 is A$14k retail 😮

[@SaintGangle]

Test rode a Madone just last week. It had a speedometer already installed so I decided to see how fast I could push it going downhill (Not a pro, just a recreational rider). Clocked at 52Kmph. Never again will I go that fast, it genuinely terrified me.

[@BikeLife154]

mazeltov11 only 52kph? That’s slow, particularly for an aero bike down hill.

[@SaintGangle]

@@BikeLife154 It's fast on a bike that costs more than my car.

[@wonderful59207]

Tail Wind Probably Mate don't get terrified

[@hugoyoung4890]

I've topped out at 67km/h. 52 doesn't scare me.

[@HeathyRoidz]

mazeltov11 are you really scared of 52kph? I just hit 66,2kph on a flat concrete track

[@martingroen]

This is an "Off the front" paint job. Which color is used for the top part of the painting?

[@wonderful59207]

3:54 MADONFLYE .......

[@sammyorta]

What auro bike can u compare to 2020 maddone sl6. As far as performace, price tag , comfortability

[@mr02gixxer1000]

Did you adjust the iOSspeed setting to get a more comfortable ride? It does makes a difference compared to the other aero bikes I have ridden. My SLR icon is a blast to ride and it’s very comfortable doing so.

[@davidarthur]

Romeo Fowler yes, mostly ran it in the softest setting

[@McStoolio]

I’ve had my Domane SLR set to softest since I got it, why wouldn’t you?

[@23ilfred]

I’m still riding a ‘89 trek 660 steel frame I upgraded with Dura-Ace 7900 group set

[@bigdiesel6912]

OMG23 ilfred are u serious ur still riding that old busted oh man hand that dinosaur on the wall and buy yourself a new hotless.

[@23ilfred]

@@bigdiesel6912 fun fact: 2021 Officina Battaglin Marosticana 40th Anniversary Edition is what I ride now.

[@23ilfred]

@@bigdiesel6912 it is one of only 20 made in 2021 and the only one of its color with custom frame geometry for my body measurements. Oh and there’s gold and a diamond on my frame.

[@crypto_que]

Yes Bon-Tray-Grr perfect pronunciation! Sorry we Yanks are so harsh about that lol.

[@Richz2]

How much faster is it? Did you compare times with any other bikes or is it just a feeling?

[@AlvaroQF]

3:03 That’s what i call a expensive scratch OMG

[@roadcc]

Yeah... another youtube channel may or may not have crashed it before we got out hands-on it 😬

[@andrew66769]

@@charlesmansplaining auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/fuel-economy/carbon-fiber-oil-crisis2.htm " It's rare to see a car with carbon fiber because it's expensive! Ten years ago, carbon fiber cost $150 a pound. Now, the price is around $10 a pound " i have no idea where you heard that from, but its obviously wrong. im not sure what would make someone think that something thats getting easier and cheaper to mass produce would have its value become more than some of the highest demand limited resources. literally defies the laws of supply and demand.

[@dickvanbekkum0643]

More than one. On the headtube also.

[@HolmsOnBikes]

I'm currently waiting on a response from headquarters as to why that chip happens on every single Madone SLR. I have it on mine on BOTH sides, my brothers has it on BOTH sides as well. there's a little piece that goes underneath the bottom headset spacer that is supposed to stop the handlebars from being able to turn all the way...only thing I can come up with is that the handlebars get turned too far and top of the fork hits the under side of the head tube. I luckily found a pretty spot on matching nail polish for mine (Quicksilver colorway) but my brother has this same framesets (sunburst) and it's harder to match. Very frustrating that this flaw got past all the engineers.

[@AlvaroQF]

cycling T-Holms wow, i was not expecting that. Good to know that they do not care much about their bikes.

[@adamdehueck4335]

Any idea when the trek speed concept is being released? And what changes may be in store?

[@Charles-wz9sd]

Probably not much. As old as it is it still beat out a lot of the newer bikes coming out in the market. I'm predicting an updated cockpit and disc brake options if they do come out with something new, but nothing dramatic.

[@richfi9576]

it has a compact chainset because I suggest those who can afford such a bike no longer have the strength to pedal it ;-) Also, because it's Dura-Ace you get a max 28T cog at the back which gives you a 1.214 ratio vs 1.2 for 36:30 with an Ultegra semi-compact for instance.

[@mrstanhope1516]

Chainset is a clue to the target market for this bike!

[@RyonBeachner]

1. All of Trek’s bikes ship with a compact. Their logic is the retail buyer is not a professional and doesn’t need a 53/39. If you do need one and are buying a complete bike they can swap it for you before delivery. 2. Dura Ace 9100 has a maximum rear sprocket of 30T, and can unofficially (Fiddle with the B Screw) take up to a 34t.

[@mr02gixxer1000]

Rich Fi I ordered my I con SLR with a 52/36 and 11/30 cassette in the back. So you can spec it with what ever you like when putting together your SLR project one at the shop.

[@erwinbonifacio9059]

That's may dream bike 🤗🤗😔😔

[@stanandre4539]

How hard is it to remove the stem from the fork tube for transport, compared to a regular setup?

[@mr02gixxer1000]

It’s just the same as your regular setup to remove, all the cables are routed inside.

[@bigdiesel6912]

hey sprice nice transfer fugi bikes were great for their time .but ur wise u moved up good for u

[@marcozatti946]

What's the name of the Toptube color?

[@moonknite1]

Mido 5’2 que medida debo ordenar?

[@thomasjackson4702]

Great review... what is your physical size? (Height, weight, reach, seat tube height, stem) Also what size frame is this?

[@roadcc]

I'm 5'11" and 65kg, bike was a 56cm with a 396mm reach and 581mm stack

[@jeretalbot3912]

im 6 feet with a 58mm, im not on the video i believe you can go one size smaller than other bikes

[@thomasjackson4702]

@@roadcc Thanks for the reply.

[@kub72]

@@jeretalbot3912Hello, I'm 175cm with 83 inseam.. Should I go with 52 or 54 size?

[@monkmchorning]

The Madone certainly benefits from losing the rim brake option. Dealing with the head tube "aero flaps" and adjusting the Bontrager center-pull brakes was one of the most annoying build headaches I'd ever had to deal with.

[@roadcc]

it's a fiddly old system!

[@monkmchorning]

@@roadcc Old is good. Fiddly old is not.

[@bigdiesel6912]

the only thing i loved and hated about the aero vanes .they were ingenious but when it rained the dirt .grime and the elements easly getting inside made it a mechanics nite mare

[@monkmchorning]

@@bigdiesel6912 Exactly.

[@alb.1911]

Did you tested the bike with 25mm tyre? Thanks.

[@roadcc]

Yes they were Bontrager 25mm tyres

[@MaxMustermannnnnn]

25mm is the best tyre width for Madone. 28mm take a lot of cornering performance.

[@Timtimzi]

lovely bike. but something about the bontys just throw me off appearance wise

[@lifestylechoicespatscully3284]

If I had 10 grand.. why not? But as I don’t it’s a £500 bike for me and I’ll take being a few minutes slower. The Madone does look a million dollars though.

[@Nwa_dw]

What‘s the weight?

[@PhuongHieuPHT]

My dream is to ride this bike, I want to own this bike, but with a very high price, I do not have money to buy

[@Penalist]

1:05. Is that damage in the paint at the fork crown?

[@DrBreezeAir]

Yes, looks like someone turned it too far.

[@mr02gixxer1000]

DrBreezeAir Or the stopper that keeps it from turning to far is broken, like it did on my SLR icon is broken and chipped the paint. Mine is not that big though. But trek is taking care of it. Other than that is a blast to ride it’s stupid fast and comfortable.

[@OutdoorsIQ]

Romeo Fowler is there some kind of mechanical stop to avoid the bars turning too far? That’s impressive

[@mr02gixxer1000]

OutdoorsIQ yes sir there is, it’s beneath that carbon cap that the spacers sits on.

[@richardggeorge]

Gloss Paint chips easily?

[@madone6182]

may I know your inseam height

[@rosscads]

What’s the weight? And doesn’t any bicycle “go faster until your legs can’t keep up”?

[@colombianflag717]

11 pounds

[@nazimwahid5208]

@@colombianflag717 that;s too light m8

[@MaxMustermannnnnn]

I believe 8-8.7kg. Depends wich build you take.

[@alexandrup1078]

@@MaxMustermannnnnn what would you say the difference between this bike and one that costs 1,000 is? how much faster can you go with this one? when would it be worth it to buy this bike?

[@MaxMustermannnnnn]

@@alexandrup1078 I have a Cube that costed around €1700 and my Madone is €6500. With my Cube my max avg speed was 32.5kph over 60km. On my Madone my avg speed is 35kph over 100km. Madone is downhill way faster than the Cube. Its the best handling bike I‘ve ever ridden. Uphill its way faster too. On my local hillclimb my best time with the Cube was 29:50 with my Madone 25:04

[@harmanvi]

Bro I am from India can you please guide me, which gravel is best under 1000 dollars. Waiting for ur reply

[@bigdiesel6912]

singh in my opion gravel bikes sucks u should talk to a dealer good luck

[@DrBreezeAir]

I do enjoy hydraulic disk brakes on my Crux, but never before have I heard of anyone to enjoy them for their simplicity.

[@Digi20]

Why not? You set them up once (if you buy the bike from the dealer, they already are) and you should never have to worry again. they self allgin when the pads wear down etc. - have hydro disc now on all my bikes. first time working with discs and building the bikes was new and a learning curve, now its perfect.

[@DrBreezeAir]

@@Digi20 What if they go wrong? What if you damage them? I understand how to fix a rim brake or a mechanical disk brake in the field. What would I do if the abovementioned happens?

[@Digi20]

@@DrBreezeAir than you would need to continue on your remaining Brake and fix it up home or take it to a Bike Shop. Same as a mechanical Brake. Or do you carry spares for them?

[@DrBreezeAir]

@@Digi20 With brake problems it's usually actuation that suffers first, I can fix a cable issue in most cases. There's nothing I can do about a leaking brake line. Therefore complicated not simple.

[@richardggeorge]

I think he was referring to the fact that the trek Madone aero rims caliper brakes are relatively complex compared to Shimano ones

[@timetrialist]

Is that Ollie Webb's Madone???

[@roadcc]

Not passing the buck but... This was a demo bike from Trek that had been to multiple other cycling sites before coming to us. As far as I am aware Dave didn't crash during his review time

[@user-zg2go5ki7o]

How much is it

[@stuartdryer1352]

Feels quick. Is it really quick? Feel isn't always real. Even in its class that price is insane.

[@brysonszy6306]

Their wind tunnel testing and research shows that it is faster. The price is not insane if you think about the amount of R&D and the manafacturing costs. This is not a bike for the everyday Joe or the weekend warriors, it's for either the rich, the crazy bike-hypes, or racers.

[@gurugamer8632]

Weight?

[@sanghajung5103]

Is the color purple abyss or mulberry? Somebody please tell me :D

[@roadcc]

I don't think they're doing that colour for 2021

[@jeankruger5201]

You Bodyweight is too less to bring the isospeed to work ;-)) I have about 100kg and it works perfect :-))

[@scottvessey915]

That model might have been 10k, the SLR6 Disc is around half that price though...

[@roadcc]

This is true and I'm pretty sure Dave did mention that, or at least he should have done

[@charlielivingston7747]

@@roadcc He did. Well actually he mentioned the SL version which is only around 3k but uses a slightly lower grade carbon. The SLR 6 is 5k and uses the same grade carbon (same frame).

[@roadcc]

Cheers Charlie, I should probably have known that seeing as I watched it plenty of times while editing

[@TheGinger1]

I agree with this comment. He keeps referring to it as the Trek Madone SLR Disc and never mentions that there are many different specification levels at different price points if you can’t afford the top end one. At the moment the new SL isn’t available in the UK, only the USA. We’re currently stuck with the old frame with the iso speed in the seat tube. Also, why complain about the gear ratios on a bike that can be custom ordered through Treks project one program with whatever gear ratios you want?

[@moe-moon]

What's Dan Lloyd doing here?

[@roadcc]

Never heard of him 😉

[@sloppyjonuts9162]

Its probably the same ad my 2012 madone

[@HolmsOnBikes]

Lol that couldn't be further from the truth

[@BlazingBigJointz]

ERM.. No.

[@indiebikes]

I know, I know, aero trumps weight every time - but that chassis does look heavy and all that de-coupler business looks overly complicated for what Canyon achieved with a flexing seatpost.

[@trisportsukltd]

The decoupler is a very straight forward concept and works well. It does not require any servicing and does not add any significant weight whilst it does add comfort, which is rare for an aero frame. Aero bikes all look heavy because of the depth of the tube shapes. Even so, they are not blocky or heavy to ride. The Madone SLR was used to success for a win in the last Monument race of 2019 - Il Lombardia and also win the 2019 World Champion Road Race. Plenty of climbs in both races.

[@JamesM-vx1np]

Ribble Endurance SL disc. £1799. Why would I pay almost 6 times the price for a slightly better specification bike?

[@McStoolio]

Because it’s not a Ribble, nor an endurance bike.

[@cedward690]

Madone VS Venge Any ideas ?

[@roadcc]

Both good bikes but we'd recommend getting a test ride on them both before spending your hard earned cash

[@bigdiesel6912]

ohhh eddie do u really have to ask that Q bc u dont know .in my opion trek madone slr segafredo and to be insulting cannondale systemsix

[@OliverYoungFinance]

Factually incorrect. You do not HAVE to use Treks integrated bar and stem. You can swap it out with whatever bar and stem combo you like. As a matter of fact, most pro chose to replace it with either a bar and stem from either ZIPP or Pro.

[@roadcc]

Yes, you can swap out the entire bar and stem. But you can’t substitute a different bar or stem like you can on say the Venge

[@bigdiesel6912]

true u are defizilla i treid a zipp aero bar on my buddies trek madone it wrks fine .itreid as a back up for my new mmadone slr7 coming soon this may 23

[@mindfulbroker]

Whats the weight of this superbike

[@roadcc]

7.7kg

[@Timtimzi]

@@roadcc not bad

[@andystone5487]

Why does the compact look wrong??? 😲. I've got the non disc Madone 9, with.... Wait for it.... A compact.... 😲😲😲😲😲, oh dear, that's so bad..... Ya know, living in the North Lake District eh......

[@clareli2208]

hello .how to contact you

[@superstrada6847]

No matter how beautiful or expensive the bike; it seems brake squeal is included; How gullible we are.

[@umaxi96]

Discbrakes tend to squeal more on roadbikes since the forces involved are lower than on Mountainbikes for example. The limiting factor of brake performance is tire width. On a Mountainbike you can brake much more forcefully and stop faster because of wider tires and there is less vibration between disc and brakepads that would result in squealing. If brakes are to strong on roadbikes, the wheels would be blocked resulting in worse brake performance.

[@BikeLife154]

YTisDangerous are you excusing brake squeal on a £10,000 road bike? Because if you are then I have to say, there should be NO sound from the BB, brakes etc on a bike costing this much!

[@umaxi96]

adriboff1 So why does the expensive bike squeal, then? How could it be prevented? In my opinion some brake systems do always squeal at lower speeds but performe better in different conditions in turn (e.g. higher speeds/bad weather/heat capacity/durability). Roadbikes are not race cars but many race cars have very expensive brakepads that always squeal at lower speeds. So squealing brakes are not necessarily a bad sign in my opinion.

[@HolmsOnBikes]

My Ultegra discs never squeal on my SLR 6. If set up properly and not contaminated then no, they will not make any noise whatsoever

[@Anthony39034]

Fork is scratched like all of them the flexibility is ridiculous the bottom brake bb 90 cracking sound is disappointed 😔 I talk by experience I have 2 of them from 2019 is a shame

[@HolmsOnBikes]

Is your fork seriously chipped too? My brother and I both have one and we have the chip on BOTH sides of our forks.

[@ThePaulbself]

Token Ninja BB is the fix for the BB90

[@road-racing.plofficialchan393]

Why didn,t you weighted this bike? Id You will show the number on the scale it will the end of this story...

[@jackryan2135]

A 10 grand bike is the reason why there will be few humans left by the end of the century.

[@rupephoto7615]

Very good explanation but £10,000 you can buy a car for that

[@user-nr5jo4pt6i]

أريد دراجه فى مصر محافظة البحر الأحمر رأس غارب

[@chrisdavis9135]

Low key I can hear that he’s saying it’s GARBAGE, and I like the bike too but for what, until next year’s stunt ? Takes the fun out of getting a new bike. Great job on the review though

[@sbsb4995]

The rim brakes version of this bike looks so much better.

[@bigdiesel6912]

bro rim brakes are so out dated .

[@gaco49]

This bike was really easy to assemble kzbin.infoUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.

[@michaelpegasiou4531]

I can buy a very nice second hand car for 10 grand! I ride a trek 7.9fx,it came with 25mm tyres and I swapped them for 37mm slicks as the poor bike was battered by the crappy cambridge roads,potholes everywhere,terrible broken up road surface as standard also.I can ride faster with the 37mm tyres as I’m not forever bracing myself and gritting my teeth for every inch of torturous road surface.I can’t imagine that 10 grand bike being much fun to ride on the crappy city roads around here.

[@bigdiesel6912]

hey bro too chey

[@bigdiesel6912]

i admitt u fixie driver are fast rider

[@doggdemuro]

That bike just looks like pain and suffering with a healthy dose of annoying proprietary nonsense and constant adjustments. A bike for dweebs with too much money to ride to the coffee shop.

[@Lenny-pq5kc]

Why you mad bro

[@chefnigeltv8580]

get the F out with that $10,000 price tag. Who are you fooling Trek. Im sure ppl are aware of Canyon Aeroad. Get that instead.

[@goonigoogoo5868]

ha ha ha I will leave you in the dust without an aero bike . it is about the rider and legs. aero bikes. are for weaklings and judging by those skinny little legs you have. you are own no position to give a review

[@chippies121]

10k for a bicycle? .......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤭🤭😒😒😒🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you've got to be a proper fool to spend 10k on a bicycle....a BICYCLE! SMDH

[@Lenny-pq5kc]

That’s what people say who have no money

[@bigdiesel6912]

fool or not i can afford to pay for the best and also i do get my money worh sonstop your bitching poor boy just settle fot wallmart bike u be ok

[@BikeLife154]

£10,000 for a bike? What a joke! There’s no justification for that price only for Trek who make huge profits!

[@RyonBeachner]

adriboff1lol how much money do you think they make on one of these? Let’s see how out of touch you are. 😂

[@BikeLife154]

Ryon Beachner To produce this bike is no more than 2 or 3k. Trek then add on to it when they sell to the distributor. The distributor adds on his cut and then the bike store add on their profit! So the end user gets left with a nice hefty bill for something that was made in China and then assembled in the USA or wherever Trek are based!

[@RyonBeachner]

adriboff1 So all the time spent paying employees to do wind tunnel testing, CFD, sponsoring race teams for feedback and R&D and etc are all completely free? And why in the hell would they then turn around and sell it for their cost after going to all that trouble? If they don’t make money they cease to exist. Same goes for the distributor who if they didn’t make a markup would then not be able to pay rent, or employees and would cease to exist. Then the dealer who sells the bike, do you suppose they go to work in the morning because they have nothing better to do? What world do you live in...

[@red00tl]

Ryon Beachner We used have a world like that and we called it the Commie world. Thankfully it has ceased to exist. ;)

[@Spartan9567]

Definitely, my carbon road bike cost me about 1,000 pounds all up and although it doesn't have di2 or disk brakes, I am sure those two options don't cost an extra 9,000 pounds.

[@barrybarnard836]

I can not find the words to describe how unbelievably ugly that thing is, I call it a thing, it's not worthy to be called bicycle