Roadtrip In Our Cheap Classic Cars! [Ft. Peugeot 205 | Ford Puma | Range Rover P38]

[@Nimmo1492]

That Peugeot diesel engine will keep on going for a million miles. The rest of the car won't, but the engine will.

[@theglowingnugget7999]

Mines got 15000 miles

[@callumhardy5098]

Lots and lots and lots of waxoyl and you’ll be alright

[@fasthracing]

My sister owned a 1990 Pug 205 diesel XL from new. She did over 400,000 miles in it, and in the end gave it to the mechanic who had looked after it for her.

The Puma is one of the best car designs of all time.

[@imaweerascal]

Styled by Ian Callum I think, same person behind the Aston Martin DB9 and Jaguar XK. What amazes me is that it's not only gorgeous, it's smaller and lighter than a modern Mini Cooper but somehow has a bigger boot?

[@tarcisdevos600]

P38 the car for dare devils! You know when you leave, but you never know if you will make it back 🤣 I had one and i miss it everyday, such a beautifil and comfortabel car

[@stefanofalzon6214]

Watching these vids, I remembered how good my old 1.7 was and immediately started scrolling the marketplace. After a few months, I found a rust free 2000 1.7 in panther black. It still needed a mechanical overhaul and some cosmetic work (which I did myself where possible), but what a car!

[@HighPeakAutos]

Great video lads. I love the P38

[@roofdownfun]

Have to agree, I have a P38 diesel and love the pain it gives me every day, secretly looking for a 4.6 petrol now to join it, fantastic car and a lot of work you can do yourself if you know your way round a toolbox!

[@Alex-the-Great81]

But of course you'd say that 😃

[@HighPeakAutos]

@@Alex-the-Great81 haha no surprise there

[@benhubbard3167]

i have a p38 im 16 i bought with my dad its a 1995 manual 4.0 litre with a stain steel exhaust sound evil goes everything i love it cant wait to drive

[@project9320]

P38 4.6 here on 220,000 miles.....love it, will never sell!!

[@megapangolin1093]

Had my Puma 1.7 since new, nearly 20 years. The only problems are two new glovebox hinges replaced over the years. Incredibly nimble to drive, perfect for class A/B roads, and I prefer it to my Boxster S on those journeys.

[@marksoutherton8888]

I’ve had a P38 for the last 9 years and it has only let me down once, that was when the head gasket went at 117k 😖

[@gordonwedman3179]

I previously owned two 1997 Discovery's which I enjoyed driving and didn't give much trouble. I then bought a 98 P38 which require me to do a lot of work. When I came across a 99 Autobiography P38 for $1000 Cdn I bought that and sold the 98. After 2 years the 99 has been reliable. I also have a 2008 RRSC and I like driving the P38 almost as much. The P38 is amazing off road considering the luxury. Never failed to follow the Defenders in my off road club.

[@Thanos.m]

Remember seeing the trio at C&M and my vote goes out to the P38 they have tested my patience in the past but there's just something about they way they make you feel

[@tarcisdevos600]

I had a 2.5DSE super slow, but amazing comfort when at cruising speed. still regret selling my P38, 3 years ago 🙁

[@theglowingnugget7999]

That feeling with that 205 you got all 205 owners get. We will all understand lmao

[@luinpuin4152]

The 205 is just a strong car, basic and quallity build

[@offgrid7837]

In my 205 I drove 7500 miles across Europe, 2 bikes and camping gear onboard, mountain tracks, bridges with big holes in them, washed out roads, blast furnace heat and the only problem I had was an alternator that didn't charge at high revs. That was solved by buying a spare battery and jump leads (or driving slower). I simply don't want or need any other car.

[@guy4469]

I bought a p38 2.5 dse for a 1000.never let me down for 5 years .sold it 1500 to my mate still going .its gold. The sagging roof lining doesnt slow it down or affect the handeling .

[@davog1946]

No the it’s horribly slow and awful handling without any help.

[@Crundibbler]

your BCM issue on the door could be a screw chafing through the wiring harness next to the door under the carpet, expose the harness, lift it slightly and turn it through 180 degrees, you will see an exposed screw coming through the floor and the green and purple wire may be getting chafed, you will see the copper core going green, just snip the bad bit out and fit a connector with a bit more wire and put some wood onto the screw or chop it down, replace everything and hey presto, it will be fixed or no different...

[@jarlrise]

An alternative to the Puma might be a Cougar from the same time period. Should be about the same price (and equally hard to find a good one), and give a lot more room since it is Mondeo based. I have one since 6 years as a cheap "classic," and it's been giving me no problems at all (2.0 Zetec)

[@chrispenn715]

The Puma is in that perfect spot - most people regard it as an old banger, but it's on the edge of becoming a classic - best of both worlds in that it's cheap to buy and run and fun to drive. It might even be worth more than you paid come sale time. I love cars at this stage of their existence - my favourite was a Mercedes 200T that I bought years ago when it was at this stage in its life - cost me £150! I sold it for £350 a few months later - It's now a true classic, but expensive to buy!

[@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784]

I think you are spot on, its definitely going to be a future desirable classic car

[@stringer-ik1pc]

In 30 years time.

[@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784]

@@stringer-ik1pc I think a lot sooner then that, id say another 10 years.

[@Everything_Evan]

Obviously the pug it's one of the best cars ever built

[@nikonordman7624]

The car that saved Peugeot

[@stringer-ik1pc]

And has zero class.

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

I’d dispute ZERO class! -Joe

[@stringer-ik1pc]

@@ClassicsWorldUK Have you seen your dress sense.???? Zero definitely 🤐

[@julianlangdon3456]

true... .and its yellow, and it'll do 100miles on a tenner's worth of juice

[@stevechambers500V8]

I’d take the P38 in a heartbeat. But I am biased!

[@OdykKayne]

I'm still not the biggest fan of the Rangie...big SUVs, trucks and cars just aren't my thing, but a big kudos for it for defying expectation and being reliable! My heart and soul are with that little Peugeot though....will hate to see it go! I hope it goes to a good home! :)

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

The Pug is very much loved by its new owner, we're glad to see it live on!

[@OdykKayne]

@@ClassicsWorldUK Awesome! :)

[@lewis72]

9:30 Looks as though the 205 is riding a bit on the high side !

[@paulqueripel3493]

Puma on a roadtrip? Chris Behan took a cheap one to America and drove from Florida to Canada, then Detroit to San Francisco and finally recreated the Bullit commercial. It's on KZbin. Surprised a lot of people, rhd. Sometimes slept in it.

[@albinmasson8908]

The P38 looks amazing 😍

[@jimd385]

I’d have the Puma, it still looks cool. .....and I could hum the ‘Bullitt’ theme tune like in that awesome Puma commercial.

[@Stuntman175]

People on KZbin are putting out better car content than most mainstream media has in the last 2 years. Great video guys, just one thing. When filming these sorts of intros, change the order of the cars over. The largest car (Range Rover) has to stay on the farthest end of the screen and the smallest (205) stays on the closest. That way you can have your hosts closer to the center of frame and the cars remain visible as well.

[@peterbradley4916]

p38, brilliant car, iv got 2. so, a bit biased.

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

You’re a man of taste! -Aaron

[@kierencrichton4325]

205 without a doubt!

[@freddieflanders]

The Range Rover p38 is best my dad has two and there very tough and surprisingly reliable

[@roofdownfun]

What a lovely looking bunch of cars, but I'm drawn to how nice the P38 is, I have a late diesel and love it, done a lot of the common faults on it myself and I'm sure I'll continue to do more but you was right about looking for a good one and you'll have a very nice albeit thirsty car. 🤣🤣👍

[@StewSims]

Puma for me, had the pug been a 306 it would have been a different matter! This has been a fun series of videos, looking forward to next years. I'd thoroughly recommend to anyone the magazines like Classic Car Mart where you feature these cars in more detail.

[@matty6848]

If I was to put a car on pure reliability, I’d pick the Peugeot 205 any day. Old French cars were known for just going and going. Yes the Puma and certainly the Range Rover are a different league in luxury but if anything is going to get you home, it’s that tatty little Peugeot.

[@johnhall4917]

201,000 miles on the diesel Pug 205? Aren't they only just ran in by that point? I've seen them with over 400,000 miles.

[@rebeccaprendergast4765]

I had a silver Ford Puma......it was like driving a roller skate

[@jamescaley9942]

I think they are all silver, or maybe it is me.

[@rebeccaprendergast4765]

@@jamescaley9942 - they did a yellow one as well 🙂

[@imaweerascal]

@@jamescaley9942 There are also black ones ('Black Edition'), and a very sexy dark grey called the 'Thunder' model, which has leather interior and aircon.

[@chriseseigbe9768]

The Ford Puma is a really looking nice car. I wonder why it didn't sell or wasn't as popular as the Ford Fiesta. To me the Puma still looks to modern for a classic. The Range Rover is more of a classic because of its Square/ box shape, but the luxury interior is just as modern as today's cars. The 205 on the other hand is an absolute classic both exterior and interior. The 205 engine will go on forever but the bodywork will be a challenge.

[@another3997]

It did sell well, but Ford had to decide on a choice between the rather niche Puma or the more mainstream, and cheaper, Ford KA... which was also based on that old Fiesta platform. The KA sold like hot cakes, and remained in production for a very long time. It was also fun to drive, slightly more practical and spawned the SportKa and StreetKa. Ford knew there was just no way the Puma would sell in very large numbers, no matter how good it was.

[@tomdtom5407]

About the 205 gear knob: I have a 205 XSi here in Brazil and I could easily buy a new original like knob in eBay. Why can't you do It in UK?

[@looniegaming9419]

One word of warning for the range rover p38, the 2.5 isn't great, isn't not as economical as you'd expect for a 2.5 BMW diesel, and heads and head gaskets are an issue, every single 2.5 ive known, and many others have been at fault with the engine, Im guessing because its such a heavy car (especially vogues like my dad's was) while it will cost you more for fuel, the rover v8s were, at least in my experience, are surprisingly more reliable

[@stringer-ik1pc]

@Paulie Gualtieri Thank god its not French.

[@volt8684]

Bought my daughter a 206 1.1 petrol after she passed her test. 7 yrs later I have advised her to buy a ‘safer’ car. Cant prize it out of her hands. Its very tinny but what a lovely car to drive. She absolutely loves it. High miles now but drives as it did when bought with 35k. Apart from easy diy servicing and is really easy. Had coil pack, new radiator tyres, exhaust, cam belt and water pump. All consumables but ones I ve done myself as u tube user. When i drive it i curiously see her point, its a lovely tinny car to drive. My father had a company 205 1.9d and did 250k in 4 yrs, bought it and gave it to my brother who did another 80k before he crashed it. Peugeots appear tinny and naff but as utilitarian vehicles A to B cars for cheap reliable motoring, they rock. I currently own a citroen berlingo Mk1 as my daily driver used for all sorts of tasks and it is a belting little vehicle but as with peugeot worry about crashing and safety. The older cars had more personality.

[@Mr330d]

People give Peugeot a bad name but their engines are amazing I have a cheap runabout Peugeot 307 hdi went through mot recently with Zero spent on it 💪🏻

[@ldwp6395]

My brain says the puma or 205, but the heart is for the range rover

[@deanstephens6131]

Has that P38 sold yet? I might be interested......

[@kidcowdy1231]

Ford just got it right? I love the puma but let me give you a list.... parcel shelf that won’t stay in, any rain water on the boot empty’s it’s self into the boot each time you open the boot after rain, the rear visibility is awful there’s a few major issues with it.... I love the puma in-spite of all this, if anything it add character. I truly miss mine even though I have now graduated to a 330d I’d take my puma back any day... just a shame it dosent work with kids :(

[@chucku00]

In France there's almost no private car with the same paint color as this 205 because it's the color of the French post office vehicles.

[@DjNikGnashers]

The P38 might be a cheap classic to buy, but it will more than likely bankrupt any normal person trying to keep it on the road. Before any owner tries to convince me otherwise, I sell parts for these as my day job, and if you happen to be lucky and have not had a massive bill yet, don't worry, you will eventually. Liking the Puma and the 205 though.

[@julianlangdon3456]

Great to see a Diesel included, my favourite one too! But oops to the grey haired bloke's lack of social distancing.... an otherwise great example of delivering a great Road Test within the rules

[@DavidTYoung]

I like the puma

[@bramd3998]

I owned a p38 4.6 v8 for 3 years, it literally spent 2 years in the garage being fixed.Had the engine, gearbox and airsuspension rebuild, still wasn't reliable.

[@davidtaylor3013]

Iv had a p38 for over 5 years and I do all my own work iv done a decent refurb on it am now running an L322 dont know why people are so put off.

[@aaaabababa]

i think i have to disagree with the statement that the Peugeot 205 isn't a good car, it's a great car, it's one of the most sensible option if you want a cheap and reliable classic daily driver, even if this one is quite rough. I feel like there might be still something wrong with the Suspension or something tho, that might be the reason why it's so bad on the Motorway

[@steven-vn9ui]

How is that PUMA not riddled with rot? Amazing

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

Jeff turned a lot down to buy this one!

[@banditpete12]

Give it time

[@matthewbell1968]

Hired a Puma in Spain once, one of the most comfortable cars I've ever driven and handed like a dream 👍

[@Zadster]

The real test isn't how they behave over summer and autumn, it is how they behave over winter! Cold batteries, alternators pushed by headlamps being on all the time, blower, windscreen heater, cold gearbox oil...

[@lameduck3630]

I have a Puma and the wheel arches are rusting, so if anyone wants the job of repairing it?

[@banditpete12]

205 is definitely a classic. I’m a ford guy but Puma’s weren’t particularly popular or cool when they were new and for what ever reason I don’t think they are now I’d still rather have a escort or fiesta. But I’d have that p38 and probably spend the rest of my life and money trying to keep it on the road.

[@Elkott]

Out of the three, if I had a choice I'd take the Pug

[@DeGlennen]

For me either the 205 or the Puma. As I already have a 205 petrol, I'd finally choose the Puma.

[@gioredrossi]

I love Ford Puma.!

[@deanprosser5224]

I love the Puma and really regret getting rid of mine however I'm very tempted with the Pug (check out Batiste Pitois to see what these little cars can do).

[@looniegaming9419]

Mgf, I see an mgf, has it treated you well?

[@deanprosser5224]

@@looniegaming9419 Pretty well, it's my daily and I drove to Italy and back just after I brought it.

[@ronwhite8503]

Some cars just charm you. My favourite has been a MK1 Renault Twingo; not fast, quirky and utterly charming. Out of these three it's the Puma for me.

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

Funnily enough, Jeff is looking to buy a Mk1 Twingo!

[@LizzyFerretOfficial]

The Puma will appreciate in the same way James May will get done for speeding.

[@barryaubrey995]

The guy in the rang rover trying to sound like jk from top gear lol

[@siraff4461]

Hmm. I had a 205 diesel back when they were current and don't remember it being all that bad on the motorway - even at slightly more than 70. It was a truly horrible car to be in with terrible seats and tupperware interior bits but it did a solid 40mpg all the time even with a pretty heavy foot. I also had a puma breifly but can't agree with the short gearing comment. Close, yes but short? I had that and an Escort GTi (1.8) at the same time and the Escort felt much shorter geared or at least much more eager. It was also a much nicer car to be in and drive. I never had a P38 because I don't like gambling or own shares in BP. My 3.5 V8 classic (2 door LWB - would be a rarety now) was thirsty and unreliable enough that I never went for another.

[@angusnz7910]

My first P38 was a pig...deserved all the crap handed out to them. The second (Bosch one) was brilliant and only died when taken out rather rudely but a milk tanker truck.

[@stephenbates8370]

I think it's the roof lining you need to worry about in the 205 not the steering wheel 🤢

[@marksoutherton8888]

Can you please let me have a contact number for the company that done the roof lining. Thanks.

[@ClassicsWorldUK]

The headlining was done by Nationwide Trim in Redditch, highly recommended!

[@marksoutherton8888]

@@ClassicsWorldUK Thank you, I will contact them 👍

[@looniegaming9419]

I'd leave the lot and take my metro I got for £350, with roughly 17,500 miles

[@VidiSLTU]

These old car are more reliability than these days cars with paper engines...

[@MrElixx22]

Ford Puma 4 ever !!!!!!!

[@carlknight2251]

The Peugeot is beautiful if I had a house with double garage and money I would love to have one.

[@georgepeg6167]

Puma all day just the rust tho 😂 yeah

[@bigmedge]

That dreadful faded yellow paint completely kills the 205. Why not give it a paint job ? Its not that expensive

[@theglowingnugget7999]

Can I have the Peugeot please

[@SecretOfMonkeyIsland784]

Id debate if that Range Rover is a classic car, its far too new, the Puma barely makes the grade either although its a guaranteed future classic.

[@BenyKorenberg]

The PUG is the stupidest and most horrible car of the bunch... I genuinely hate it... Mostly because of the horrible cheap approach it was done with...

[@lewwal1957]

You obviously cant afford one or havent driven/owned one mate i have a 1988 diesel model and its better than all the modern cars i have plus they are the best 80s/90s hatchbacks as most are rust protected and are amazing to drive

[@peterjanvanbijnen226]

just put an mercedes om 606 in it