Rob Parker - A Big Game Against Texans Could Push Lamar Jackson Ahead of Josh Allen For MVP

[@cneeds21]

How is Josh Allen still ahead of Lamar in MVP race after this week. I don't believe it, unless they just don't want Lamar to get another MVP, which is true anyway

[@jameswilliams7725]

Record alone disqualifies Lamar

[@rahsaanmckell-jeffers5647]

Voter fatigue. They're punishing Lamar for losing the AFCCG against the Chiefs. They wanted to give it to Allen last year when Lamar won it almost unanimously. Even the players put Lamar above Josh last year.

[@1G1F1B]

@@rahsaanmckell-jeffers5647 They would do the same this year as well lol

[@1G1F1B]

@@jameswilliams7725 That aint it. Otherwise last year Allen shouldn't hve been mentioned. But somehow Lamar is putting up better numbers this year then what Allen put up last year and this yr. If Lamar wins out not discussing him is a travesty to football. Like giving Myles DPOY when TJ clearly was better.

[@kevonsidek9737]

@@rahsaanmckell-jeffers5647 lamar ain’t have no business almost winning it last year with those pedestrian stats lol that shows you how weak the qb play was last year

[@LabrellCain]

Media is a joke🤣🤣🤣

[@sokit2em]

ya last year they said “But Lamar is winning” even with mediocre stats this year Bills have better record but its “Look at Lamar’s stats”

[@thecomebackkid7892]

@@sokit2em this is a different year…nobody had these numbers. Maybe Dak did but he absolutely folded against winning teams and it made his numbers look fraudulent. I thought cmc should have won tho

[@colinforsecs3393]

I agree, it's just hot takes and click bait.

[@colinforsecs3393]

@@sokit2em Notice how the media let Lamar off the hook on his vax status but not Aaron...

[@MDFlo]

@@sokit2em bingo! They constantly shift the narrative to fit who they want to win the mvp

[@Good2bking]

Lamar is about to have the best passers rating in nfl history and barkely could break the rushing record but they wanna give it to Josh Allen

[@kevonsidek9737]

“The best passer rating in history” wow the most cherry picked stat 😂😂😂😂

[@codyschmuff4840]

Hes leading josh allen in most other stats as well.​@kevonsidek9737

[@Regularguy92]

Nah man last year stats didn’t matter for Lamar and he got it with 24 pass TDs I’m not with him winning it the next year for stats with more losses than the other candidates. Lamar fans want it all ways with this guy.

[@thaabestt7701]

4th best but I agree

[@calebs5257]

​@@kevonsidek9737 cope harder

[@allgas1794]

Goff has 500+ more passing yards than Allen. 7 more passing TD's than Allen. 7% more completion percentage than Allen. While Josh has more rushing TD's, Goff has the better record with half his team injured. Should be Lamar, Goff and Allen as a 3 headed race. Lamar is in the lead tho.

[@DB-cg4vs]

From a raven fan I wish I can agree it's just that 5 int game won't help him

[@H0USE4100]

@@DB-cg4vs Josh had a 9-30 game that everybody loves to sweep under the rug so we gotta keep the same energy for Goffs 5 int game

[@terrencemoore8739]

​@@DB-cg4vs Yea Josh arguably had the worst QB performance of all time this season

[@jameswilliams7725]

@@DB-cg4vs The losses to non playoff teams are worst than the 5 int game that we still won. The steelers who can't score points beat them. Josh just nearly loss to the Patriots.

[@wolfszn]

you put allen on the lions & goff on the bills allen has 50+ TD’s

[@H0USE4100]

the Allen agenda from the media is weird. I think Lamar,Goff,and Saquon should all be ahead of Josh for MVP

[@madprophet69]

Why?

[@brandonjames740]

Sorry ur black Jesus lost to the 2 worst teams in the NFL. He was never an MVP

[@DD-rk6kn]

@@brandonjames740 what are you yappin he also mentioned goff. if goff balls out he should win it if lamar breaks down. and if barkley has two monster games and gets rushing record it should be him. but give it to somone with a mid season while two guys had all time great seasons. americans are insane 😂

[@Broadkill54]

@@brandonjames740 who was talking about race?🧐

[@medialiarz]

Out of reach???? His stats are blowing the rest of the players away. The media just wants to give Josh Allen an affirmative action award when Saquon Berkley is playing better than him.

[@bigballer6666]

To be fair Saquon is playing better than Lamar and Allen

[@brandonjames740]

Allen had 40 TDs the last four years stuff about stats. Yall so lame

[@therlowfoy9738]

​@@brandonjames740 9/30 as a professional QB and he got smoked by 35-10:head to head!

[@LuhvRaynell_NFLEnthusiast]

First off he’s not on Lamar’s level at all 😂😂.

[@kevonsidek9737]

I mean josh is doing more with less lol he’s willing his team to wins single handily but lamar have been far more impressive

[@18lilwest]

​@@kevonsidek9737 more wat

[@mavusana12]

​@@kevonsidek9737So we should give out Sympathy awards because JA is playing more with Less? I could argue he has played piss poor twice and still his team has won, Lamar has never played badly and won this season regardless of having Henry as his RB but JA has been carried against the colts and pats.

[@brandonmiller4361]

lol exactly Lamar is on a different level from these guys ‼️😈 Lamar is Superman not the other guy

[@kevonsidek9737]

@@mavusana12 josh hasn’t played bad and won either lol and it’s a fact he doesn’t have the best rb to hand the ball off to and he also doesn’t have receivers as skilled as zay flowers, bateman, likely or andrews

[@drich8806]

The fact that the Bills beat the Chiefs is nullified by the fact that Ravens-Bills looked like Pros vs college players

[@zeusonolympus123]

I think the Bills if anyone has a chance, a small one to beat KC. Playoff Lamar is coming soon to a theatre near you. More turnovers and excuses than wins and TDs. Lamar garbage time coming. I dont like Allen either but at least he scores in the playoffs.

[@DSRKing23]

AFC EAST IS Dog Water

[@zeusonolympus123]

So is the AFC North. Signed Jalen Hurts.

[@antoniowilliams9440]

Facts. Dolphins, Jets, & Patriots have *ZERO* chance to make the playoffs. S.O.S. matters.

[@JT803.]

Strength of schedule?

[@SlimeNews]

Allen is completely overrated if u think he on Lamar level 😂😂

[@melaninknowledge3658]

Allen isn't even better than burrows

[@marcussnow340]

@@SlimeNews I would give Baker Mayfield a vote this year before I give one to Lamar

[@Cheatingscoobydoo]

Mahomes, Lamar, Burrow Goff then overrated Allen

[@shredacademy6170]

@@marcussnow340😳😳. So you’re taking Baker over Lamar 😂😂

[@SlimeNews]

@@marcussnow340 😭😭

[@kidKrazy8]

Some of you keep referring back to last season's MVP. That wasn't close, either. 1. Josh was nowhere in that race. MVP candidates consisted of the SF 49ers team, Lamar, Dak, Tyreek, Tua, CJ Stroud, Hurts, etc. 2. Josh Allen was being talked about because of the int's and the coach giving the ball to James Cook, who ran for 1100+yds. He would've done that this year but he missed 4 games and they took away his touches to push this Josh narrative. 3. Ravens played top teams last year and demolished them. The only MVP candidate that stuck out on the field was Lamar. As he took apart teams the MVPs on said team was dropped in ranking or off the list. 4. Ravens didn't have a cupcake schedule to run through. How many key players did Ravens lose last season and the ship didn't sink? 5. So Amari Cooper is on the team and he can't get the ball thrown his way? 6. How is it Lamar's team is so much better than Josh's? Last year's team? 22? 21? 20? He was about to be off the Bills if not for Diggs. 19?

[@adamkadmon3857]

right!? I do not understand why people act like it was between JA and LJ last year. Well, I understand why Bills fans cling to that nonsense but everybody else just got hypenesia. At this point, I wish fallen would win so everybody can stfu about it. its crazy too how they started the MVP talk in like week 4, I was burnt out on the 'conversation' before the season was half over. just sucks the fun out of it when the fun little debates turn into the most important argument in sports history...give it a rest America.geeze

[@mrsnfta]

Josh was number 2 last year. Wtf are you talking about 😂😂😂😂

[@madprophet69]

@kidKrazy8 Josh was #2 in MVP voting last year. Are you a casual?

[@kidKrazy8]

@mrsnfta no, he was not. Dakota Prescott, Brock Purdy, CMC, and Stroud, Dolphins were being talked about until The Ravens came through. Then, at the end of the season, all of a sudden, they throw Josh Allen in there. Some dude votes Josh Allen so that Lamar doesn't get unanimous MVP. But last season cannot compare to this season because the Ravens played top teams and won, and he was the best on the field when he played against the other MVP candidates. Bills had a cupcake schedule last year and a cupcake schedule this year. Lamar sat out how many quarters last year after blowing teams out? How many quarters have Allen played this year while blowing teams out stat padding?

[@enorris768]

@@mrsnfta he was number five in voting. He had 80 points to Lamar's 490+

[@therlowfoy9738]

Allen gets celebrated for scoring 6 touchdowns and losing, Lamar gets overlooked after throwing 5 touchdowns in a win!

[@HitmanHart40]

💯💯💯

[@kizzlejohnson2705]

MVP MV3 easily 🎯💪💯

[@melaninknowledge3658]

The context they love to leave out is Lamar had the best record in the NFL last season. Allen doesn't even have the best record in his conference. Lamar also beat the most teams over 500, and Allen only beaten a couple of good teams this season. Lamar also beat the other MVP candidates when going H2H. Allen got dog walked by one of the MVP candidates. That's what they love to leave put!

[@kevonsidek9737]

The afc was weak last year which is why the ravens ran away with the 1 seed lol they didn’t have a 14-1 team they had to chase down like the bills do

[@melaninknowledge3658]

@kevonsidek9737 😆 wasnt the same players in the AFC kid? Josh allen, Patrick mahomes?

[@jeanpaul7223]

@@kevonsidek9737your talking about that soft ass division Josh plays in. Stop your buffoonery

[@rahsaanmckell-jeffers5647]

​@@kevonsidek9737 if the AFC was so soft, how come they won the Superbowl? Even so Lamar is has 2 losses in his career against the NFC, better right now than any QB IN THE HISTORY OF THE LEAGUE! Last year they played contending teams like Seattle, Rams, Lions, Bengals 2x, Pittsburgh 2x, Jacksonville, Miami, and the 49ers who were considered the best team in the league at the time. They also played the Browns 2x with the best defense in the league next to Baltimore. The schedule they had last year led many to believe the Ravens wouldn't make the playoffs, far less win the division and the #1 seed. GOH!

[@kevonsidek9737]

@@jeanpaul7223 you think I give a damn ? The bills ain’t my team goofy I’m just having fun watching you fanboys have a heart attack

[@edwinhenry7531]

Lamar has plated the tougher schedule, along with absolutely beating the Bills down!

[@zeusonolympus123]

Mahomes and Goff yawning with their several more wins and no losses to bad teams....

[@HakiAmmiSuccessScholar1]

We lost 5 games because of Justin Tucker. The kicker was the problem. At least 2 to 3 games was missed field goals.

[@kevonsidek9737]

Yall got gifted several games this season tho lol yall should’ve lost both games against the bengals especially the second one yall won that cuz of poor officiating

[@drb5003]

And penalties

[@brandonjames740]

Hahaa u have so many excuses for black Jesus. U need tucker to beat the 2 worst teams in the NFL?? Lamar is not an MVP of his own team

[@zeusonolympus123]

Imagine blaming losses on kickers.....

[@00ghostcobra]

I have been reading comment sections all over the internet regarding this subject and the only people who have called this race for Allen have been the reporters.. Fans like myself see Lamar Jackson as the easy MVP of the league.

[@marcussnow340]

@@00ghostcobra Really? Give me Lamar Jackson best wins this year and break down them 5 loses he got wit Derrick Henry in the backfield?

[@Jajuan_Sanders]

@@marcussnow340Literally in most of the losses there were missed kicks, poor o-line play, and a number of dropped passes. The defense was also getting torched by every QB until 3 weeks ago. Also, with the amount of penalties that the defense and o-line kept accumulating, it’s difficult for any QB to overcome that. Literally no QB can overcome all of those issues consistently.

[@hutonghustler5317]

I’m pretty sure neither should be in the running, shouldn’t it be Saquon head and shoulders above everyone? He’s on pace for the best season ever as an RB and all his TDs get poached from the tush push

[@killabz2]

​@marcussnow340 the Ravens best win was a thrashing of the Bills when the made em take Josh out the game in the 4th quarter 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@Regularguy92]

@@Jajuan_SandersPatrick Mahomes would like a word with you

[@VCJ777]

When did Allen even become the leading candidate for mvp? What are we talking about here.

[@MarvG3000]

Lamar is the best player in the league by far. With a so so wr core. We saw how awful Josh Allen looked without a number 1 wr

[@soda8736]

He doesn't have one now..

[@rahsaanmckell-jeffers5647]

​@@soda8736 lies! Dude has Amari Cooper, Shakir, Coleman, and Kincaid, with Cook at RB. Don't act like Allen has scrubs around him.

[@freemarley639]

​@@soda8736They traded for Cooper after that 9/30 game.

[@1G1F1B]

@@rahsaanmckell-jeffers5647 Thank you someone with sound knowledge of the game. People act like Amari aint good. He draws coverage even if he don't put numbers up. like dude above said after the Texans and Ravens game they knew JA couldn't perform without a true No.1. Zay not a No.1 just based off the amount of timely drops he has, but he is a great option like Shakir is.

[@bigballer6666]

@@rahsaanmckell-jeffers5647Shakir, Coleman and Kincaid are all mid. Amari Cooper is mid as well. Cook is a beast, but nowhere near Henry. I would say Lamar and Allen have very even help, but Ravens defense is slightly better than the Bills

[@JamesJordanbestnetworkeralive]

Lamar’s stats are dwarfing Allen’s #’s & Ravens beat the Bills

[@brandonjames740]

Allens destroyed lamars numbers last year and lamar lost to the 2 worst NFL teams this year. Funny how u forget about thay when it comes to ur black Jesus with 2 playoff wins in 7 years hahaa

[@enorris768]

@@brandonjames740 Jackson destroyed better teams and the other MVPs in a harder season. That's why he got the MVP. Allen wasn't even 3rd in votes for MVP last year with a cupcake schedule beating up on bad teams. Jackson- 493 votes. Prescott- 152 votes McCaffery- 147 votes. Purdy- 97 votes. Allen- 80 votes.

[@St._Matthew]

There’s no way Allen is having a better season than Lamar … check the numbers . Allen only leads in rushing tds

[@Regularguy92]

Lamar’s team has lost more, that matters

[@sokit2em]

so then why did Lamar win last year when he had a statistically inferior season compared to other QBs ??

[@bigballer6666]

Rushing TDs are an important part of the game now and I remember last year that stats didn’t matter

[@quadavis4]

@@sokit2em wasn’t a great year but don’t forget it was basically all Lamar last year because everybody on his team was hurt and he still got them to the AFC championship game that could’ve went completely different if Flowers doesn’t fumble and Harbough doesn’t forget the Ravens are a “running team” with the best rush offense the past 6 years

[@brandonjames740]

Its called MVP not best stats. Damn the culture is just so dumb. Lamar lost to the 2 worst teams in the NFL

[@Envyquis]

3:12 the scary part is this man Allen is literally no where near Lamar this year and media just wants Allen to win because it’s Lamar

[@J-blix]

They mad Lamar keeps out playing their betting favorites…

[@missile87redefined25]

I feel like it’s gonna be a Lamar and Josh co-MVP situation. Media wants to give it to Josh badly but Lamar is having an all time season that can’t be ignored. Voters will make them co-MVPs to placate everyone

[@bigballer6666]

Not happening in the NFL. It will just be a close vote with Allen likely winning it

[@jujushaw8250]

If it’s close…it goes to Allen.

[@zeusonolympus123]

The last 11 MVPs were QBS on #1 seed regardless of stats. Like Lamar last year. Several QBs had better numbers. Lamar won MVP because he was QB1 of #1 seed.

[@Super19900991]

It's not a charity award.

[@chrischilds368]

Great points fellas. Lamar is the obvious MVP. Best passer and player the last two seasons.

[@kevonsidek9737]

Last year he wasn’t he won it because no other qb stood out but even then he didn’t have the best stats lol

[@Walter-yf8wh]

He outplayed QBs on teams with better talent around them, that's why he won last year. Lions, 49ers, Dolphins, Burrow (twice). The media made those games "big games" and he embarrassed them.

[@kevonsidek9737]

⁠@@Walter-yf8wh overall stats was pedestrian y’all just don’t want to admit it lol he was on the team with the best record lol

[@chrischilds368]

@@kevonsidek9737 4500 yards 29 TDs passer rating of 102 is not pedestrian. Especially when it lead to the team securing the number 1 seed. Which is like a de facto wildcard win.

[@bgoodplayboyG]

​@@chrischilds368you forgot to add the 18 ints with those stats lol

[@healthyyouhealthylifestyle1547]

How did the Ravens lose five games ? Justin tucker😢

[@Envyquis]

11:10 tushpush is now praised when it’s Allen last 2 year when it was hurts they said they don’t count and was taking away shine from the rbs

[@Envyquis]

13:04 the fan sounds like media host and it’s scary

[@michaelwilliams-nq6zg]

They have been DYING to give Josh Allen the MVP. It belongs to Lamar after what he did to my Steelers, but watch Josh Allen win.

[@zeusonolympus123]

He is the only QB to have 4 straight 40 TDs seasons.....ever....You all act like Allen is some no body. Still I think Goff or Mahomes or Barkley deserve it because they win more. Winning best metric.

[@michaelwilliams-nq6zg]

@zeusonolympus123 Patrick is way below his standards. Personally, I'd vote for Barkley as he is the difference on Philly. We know how this goes, and some writers have been desperately trying to put Josh in Patrick's level when Lamar is a better player than Josh.

[@Galero15]

Lamar (6-3 vs winning teams) can't get in the race against Allen (3-3) because of his record, but Burrow can get in based on his stats? Lamar is having a historically great year statistically. Ravens are 10-5, 0-5 when he has a passer rating below 114. Lamar is averaging OVER 120 on the season. Allen is averaging a very solid 102, and has a 4-2 record when he throws below that. Not only has Allen won a game with 0 TDs and 2 INTs this season, he also lost to Lamar H2H 35-10 with 0 TDs, and followed that performance with a 9/30 and 0 TDs against the Texans. Lamar is the REAL MVP

[@kdr5d]

Josh Allen is playing in a trash division

[@brandonjames740]

That doesn't matter when lamar losing to the browns and the raiders 😂

[@KevinHernandez-qz8sb]

That man really gonna have more MVPs than victories in the postseason. 😑

[@DB-cg4vs]

And Nick foles have more Superbowls than Dan Marino. What's your point?

[@nflbound85]

​@@DB-cg4vs 😮Damn. That's tough work

[@hays0939]

and Eli Manning has more rings than most QBs... lol bad logic

[@blackmantravel6954]

Why are you talking about post season? The MVP is based on the regular season only.

[@kizzlejohnson2705]

Those numbers about to change in the postseason to the hater's and non believers stay tuned clown 🤡...

[@Envyquis]

14:20 nah don’t cut off Burt he was about to let y’all know and look bad

[@colemurry1787]

Bro is totally taking that “More Wins” statement waaay to far its 2 more wins in a WORSE DIVISION as well and Lamar has the head to head!!! This is Lamar’s MVP

[@kevonsidek9737]

Y’all whole argument last year was wins when lamar won that bs mvp and the afc was weaker last year lol now that lamar has the stats and have too many losses yall want to move the goalposts foh yall Lamar fanboys rather see him win mvp then a Super Bowl 😂😂😂😂

[@colemurry1787]

@ lamar had the best record in the league last year and beat 6 playoff teams in the regular season i believe

[@shamarj]

@@kevonsidek9737he might just win both so 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

[@blick5511]

"Worse division" is a funny argument when Lamar couldn't beat the Raiders and Browns

[@brandonjames740]

Lamar lost to the browns and the raiders😂😂 u can tell ur ignorant and black just from ur comment

[@Jalenlane93]

Robs has been glazing Lamar all year. With that being said, he's the mvp. The NFL needs individual awards for the best player at every position like college.

[@denzelsherrod3226]

The Ravens beat the Bills by 25 points so Josh should never be in front of Lamar for MVP

[@femiayanbadejo1497]

4 categories. 1. Season stats 2. Record 3. Head to Head 4. Weaker Team composition. 10 points for each category. Josh 1. 8pts 2.10pts 3. 5 pts 4. 10 pts 33 Lamar 1. 10pts 2. 7pts 3. 10pts 4. 8 pts. 35 LJ WINS 35 TO 33

[@vicekinsley5]

Texans gave Josh the worst loss in history

[@Thesinfultruth]

This young black man thinks we a stupid Saying… Josh is allowed to just coast to an mvp Hell no…

[@joelaaron5551]

And the Allen fanboys are conveniently forgetting that he had an absolute stinker vs the Texans who will be playing Baltimore next throwing 9/30 in a loss. If the Ravens who beat the Bills badly were to beat the Texans in a spectacular fashion with Lamar balling out how doesn’t that help Lamar’s case? The AGENDA is already fixed.

[@Zikk0_o]

All this obsession over MVP when neither ain't even sniffed a SB appearance. Get to the SB and then talk. Until then don't nobody care.

[@mrsnfta]

Well last year Lamar stats wasn't high, but won cause he had less. He one based off the narrative. So now we back on stats 😂😂😂

[@7damon8ietheredge54]

they going hard for Lamar for MVP more than they saying he has to get to a super bowl. yet rob thinks Eli is the best thing ever for having 2 rings and never put up stars like lamar

[@TygrT23]

The win over the Steelers put Lamar way over Josh Allen. I still say if the officials would’ve stayed out of the way and call the game correctly and stop nick picking about some of those penalties from last year playoffs and this year season game versus the chiefs, both counts, Ravens would be champions and trying to win the second ship BUT the league doesn’t want that.

[@kevonsidek9737]

Bruh stop it yall mvp along with the ravens choked lmao they scored 10 points at home how embarrassing 😂😂😂😂

[@bigballer6666]

I’m a Ravens fan and that is cap. We lost that game fair and square. Lamar was mid and then Zay screwed us.

[@blick5511]

I have no doubt that the Ravens are champions in your mind

[@brandonjames740]

How about the lose to the raiders and browns 😂😂 Lamar lost MVP months ago.

[@williamalexander6360]

Let's not forget Lamar Jackson has sat down in multiple games this season in the fourth quarter because they were already blowing the team out.... Fun fact every game that we have lost this season is because the highest-paid kicker in the NFL has missed multiple field goals in that game.. his name is Justin Tucker

[@alexgomez4401]

Lamar is starting to get the Mahomes treatment. What he does is amazing, but he's been doing it for so long that it just doesn't hit anymore.

[@nonya6022]

Naw, he's not at the Mahomes treatment. Mahomes greatness is taken for granted but they also don't think he can do any wrong, so it balances out. Lamar's greatness is taken for granted but they also still talk about him like he is trash when he makes a mistake. When it comes to Lamar, the media can't wait to see him fail. So many of them were wrong about him and they can't get over it.

[@MrOhioPlayer]

Lamar beat Allen and had a tougher schedule and is on pace for having the best QBR ever. What are we talking about?

[@RobertSmith-gn2he]

They play against lollipop teams in their division. There at least six wins that are easy right there.

[@antoinemays1859]

Great show, guys.

[@Cheatingscoobydoo]

They can’t have a lack add a B in front of lack, winning three MVPs, they need their GWH Allen to win one, he already doesn’t compare to Pat Mahomes, so they’ll be damn if they let Lamar be in front of him.

[@michaelr3583]

Heres a drinking game. Take a shot every time they say Lamar beat the Steelers. You're welcome

[@keysersoze6506]

The only time you'll get a Ravens video is when they're talking MVP race. Let Lamar lose or play average you won't see one. Rob should be ashamed of himself

[@zeusonolympus123]

The last 11 straight MVPs went only to the QB with the #1 seed.

[@TomJohnson-wg3po]

Lamar Jackson should win, in boxing, the challenger (Josh Allen) has to take that from him. Ties always go to the champ (in this case, the former MVP)

[@nflbound85]

I think Lamar's had a better season & stats. Allen is gonna get the nod because he's done it with non-household names. Outside of James Cook, it's alot of no names. But Lamar's stats are insane. He's the MVP for me. Allen would be 2nd. Barkley is Offensive Player of the year

[@YOURECTHROUGH]

Cooper and Kincaid are good players...Allen plays in a easy division, beat less playoffs eligible teams...was blown out by the Ravens. It's a sympathy award for Allen.

[@nflbound85]

@@YOURECTHROUGH Definitely agree

[@rahsaanmckell-jeffers5647]

Cooper and Kincaid are both 1st rounders. Coleman and Cook both 2nd rounders, and Shakir has been making a name for himself. Cooper was a #1 WR for the Cowboys and Browns. Those are not no-name weapons. Maybe you were a little spoiled with Diggs and Gabe Davis.

[@1G1F1B]

Because Lamar is must-see-tv is why people talking about BATEMAN....B A T E M A N....smh this is this mans FIRST year with production lol LIKELY as well, if we gon be honest Zay too. Only proven is Andrews and Henry (who many thought was washed and too old)... our 3rd WR is N E L S O N AGHLOR (A BUMMMMMMMM) lol

[@nflbound85]

@rahsaanmckell-jeffers5647 You and I know that. But idk if you've seen how out of touch these voters are lol Most don't even watch the games.

[@zachhenry8537]

Why isn't Saquan Barkley getting any love?

[@HakiAmmiSuccessScholar1]

Josb was so regular versus New England.

[@brandonjames740]

Lamar was such trash against 5 teams including the raiders and browns 😂😂

[@johnblackmonjr6663]

It was a divisional game how did Lamar play against Cleveland

[@edreedson]

That's 1 game fam. Head to head he busted up allen

[@Maurilucco]

2 passing td and 350 yards passing

[@brandonjames740]

And the raiders 😂

[@Maurilucco]

@@brandonjames740 and josh allen 9-30 and josh Allen 1td 1int getting outplayed by a rookie and josh allen 0 tds and 2 int against the colts and josh allen getting beat 35-10 against the ravens

[@MDFlo]

First off once I hear Rob talk i automatically turn the radio off and wait for the KZbin clip so I can speed up the video. Last year Lamar was ranked 15-18th in most passing categories minus one or two but last year the media said stats didn’t matter. Now this year stats matter? I’ve said it before the MVP is a media created narrative and they choose the criteria they want to matter

[@fredrickhoward8988]

His team was 14 and 2 there wasn’t any other player worthy of the mvp Allen had too many turnovers to win last season this year Lamar is leading this year but they gone give it to Allen

[@MDFlo]

@@fredrickhoward8988 Josh Allen was top ten in most passing categories last season, While Lamar was 15-18 in most. Josh Allen also threw the ball 122 more times than Lamar last year so there’s more chances for interceptions. Idc who wins the MVP my point is that last year apparently stats didn’t matter and the copout was well Lamar’s team has a better record and Allen has too many interceptions. Ok that’s fine but Now this year Josh Allen’s numbers are better than the stats lamar put up last year, he’s thrown less interceptions than last year and the team has a better records than the ravens but now since the media wants to create a narrative and get views they say well Lamar has better stats. Again it’s not about Lamar or who wins the mvp it’s about how the media shifts the criteria to fit who they want to win the MVP and rob Parker is the worst offender. He says Josh Allen’s regular season doesn’t matter only the post season matters but then says we can’t judge Lamar on his post season success.

[@GreenLitYT]

People think Lamar isn't deserving because Henry is killing it. Even though Lamar stats is better but that didn't matter last yr.

[@hay_w1re645]

This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for the Bills and the reason it’s not, Josh Allen. Now this might not be fair but Josh is doing more with less and in my opinion deserves the MVP.

[@drb5003]

Did you watch those games? 4 of those losses were because of penalties, missed FG's and the worst passing defense in the NFL.😮

[@DB-cg4vs]

From a raven fan about time Josh Allen wins a MVP 😂 half his TDS are running lol he a rb ? And i mean sh1t he better have won 12 games 😂 you see his trash division? I'll love to play the Patriots Jets and dolphins oh my twice 😂

[@kevonsidek9737]

I mean are the browns good? Are the bengals good this year? Are the Steelers as good as their record?

[@18lilwest]

Theyre better than the jets patriots and dolphins

[@MarvG3000]

@@kevonsidek9737Browns have been good every year until now. They had the best defense in football last year. Bengals always a contender. Even this year they are tough. Steelers are a great time. Way better division than the AFC East

[@kevonsidek9737]

@@MarvG3000 I’m speaking about this year lol and the browns and bengals aren’t good and the steelers are paper tigers , the ravens should a 2 game lead in the division

[@Walter-yf8wh]

Bengals have a top 5 offense, Steelers have a top 10 defense, and so do the Browns. The AFC East has no remarkable teams. Tua was out for a period of games, the Patriots have been fumbling with who gets to be the starting QB all season, and the Jets are a circus with Aaron Rodgers.

[@russvladimir1281]

Derrick Henry really freed up a lot more for Lamar this time around to do during the passing game. Take DH off that Ravens team and Lamar’s TDs get cut in half, but his running yards go up…

[@YOURECTHROUGH]

Cap. Henry was on his last leg in Tennessee....Lamar rejuvenated his career.

[@godschild7894]

Facts​@@YOURECTHROUGH

[@kevonsidek9737]

@@YOURECTHROUGH this is a lie henry was still put up 1k seasons ago

[@00ghostcobra]

Your math is off.. If Lamar's running goes up his rushing TD's go up.. Not to mention he would still have decent receivers and TE's to throw to.. Now if you took Cook off of the Bills, Josh Allen wouldn't even be in this conversation..

[@H0USE4100]

you obviously dont watch Ravens games cause Henry isnt even on the field most of the time when they throw the ball, Justice Hill is the RB when they want to throw

[@damienhawkes2872]

Implying Allen has a chokehold on the mvp is a joke 🤨🤨🤨

[@goddy510]

😂 Lamar has a first-ballot HOF at RB while Josh Allen is balling with civilians

[@davidbailey9073]

FIRST TIME WATCHING....SO GLAD CHRIS BROUSSARD IS NOT ON HERE DISRESPTING ROB ALA SKIP TOWARDS SHANNON.... PROUD OF YOU ROB .

[@jaycreates17]

Name one season Lamar has had 40 touchdowns and a playoff win

[@danyailarmstrong2363]

Man we don’t care about the mvp, we want a Super Bowl win

[@freemarley639]

Lamar isn't just having his best season, he"s having a HISTORIC season. If he has the first 40/5 season ever he has to win it.

[@kevonsidek9737]

Aaron had 48/5 lol so how would lamar be the first 😂😂😂

[@freemarley639]

@kevonsidek9737 Listening to pundits smh... Now I know

[@mauricehuntley2481]

I really want Lamar to get the MVP this year. But the narrative is Josh Allen even if Josh is Trash the next game and sits out the last game of the season the award is going to Josh regardless of what he does.

[@tomtermini1254]

Are we looking at stats or just giving it to Allen! Lamar Jackson is definitely having a better year!

[@jerel80625]

Lamar in Derek has been amazing since week 2 it’s been the defense at the start of the year is the reason they have 5 loses and the missed field goals

[@ShooterScrappy]

For me, Goff & Allen at their lowest made literal NFL history on how bad they were. Lamar worst game was 200 yards a td & a pick Lamar also leading both of them in practically every passing statistic. He’s made ppl think Zay is a WR1 and Mark is back to being elite (they’re not)

[@kevonsidek9737]

Now all of a sudden zay flowers and mark andrews isn’t elite lmao man you lamar fanboys is crazy 😂😂😂 just take his receivers away and let him throw the ball to himself then

[@ShooterScrappy]

@ Receivers better than Zay: Jettas Cheetah Adams Tee Higgins Devonta Aj brown Amon ra Jordan Addison Puka Kupp JSN Terry Ceedee Nico Collins Aiyuk Deebo DK Mike evans Are all better than Zay he’s not elite. Sorry not sorry. Mark is a redzone demon but that doesn’t mean he’s elite. He doesn’t stretch the field anymore like he used to 4 years ago. That’s life it’s okay. You don’t need to start throwing names at me because you’re underdeveloped mentally to understand simple nuance in language & narrative.

[@blick5511]

Zay and Andrews are elite. This is garbage used to make it seem like Lamar is doing more with less. Stop it

[@antoniowilliams9440]

Lamar is *HIMVP* idc what anyone says. His game speaks for itself.

[@BootCampBrandon]

How much coaching turnover did the Bills have this year compared to the Ravens? What impact does that have on W-L?

[@edreedson]

I'll solve this problem.. Josh Allen got benched during the Ravens game. Does that sound MVP?

[@Dozjah]

Two of the voters are some of Lamar biggest haters in Dan Whorelovsky and Acho. Dan even said Burrow would win MVP if he makes the playoffs. So I don’t want to hear that record crap.

[@Ransom6242]

Remember when they did the “Rob Parker” drop when ever someone said his name 😕

[@1G1F1B]

I think more then voters fatigue its they dont want Lamar to win MVP and Superbowl MVP cuz only 1 player in this era can get that. But it is ridiculous to say Allen is more deserving seeing as how in the Ravens loses the kicker missed all the field goals needed to win or tie. The defense is just now playing a LITTLE bit better then average. The most pentalized team mainly coming from PIs and Oline penalties, but instead of giving it to who is deserving we're going to treat it as a participation/sympathetic award because you just haven't won one yet. SMH what is this NFL lol

[@keysersoze6506]

Josh allen's team has lost 3 starting DBs and their receivers outside of shakir while performing at peak level. The Ravens record says Lamar shouldn't win

[@Maurilucco]

Lamar has 32nd passing D

[@keysersoze6506]

@Maurilucco that's irrelevant to what I said. Regardless they were a top ranked defense last year with not much turnover of the roster

[@Maurilucco]

@@keysersoze6506 lol when Lamar has a passer rating below 114 ravens are 0-5 when josh has a passer rating below 100 bills are 4-2 , josh has a way better D than Lamar and the number 1 turnover D

[@Maurilucco]

@@keysersoze6506 we talking this year not last year

[@keysersoze6506]

@@Maurilucco and last year he was given MVP with average numbers. This year y'all wanna give it to him because of his numbers. Is it oochie wally or is it one mic?

[@Dozjah]

I think Lamar needs 10 tds to win. That would make it obvious the media is showing favoritism

[@gregorycampbell9386]

Tucker cost this team multiple games this year. This wouldn't be a conversation if he had.

[@AngieCarr]

That’s my argument, how does Josh play in a weaker division (comparative to the Lamar’s) but his stats aren’t identical or better than Lamar’s. Lamar lost 5 games and still looked decent (at least) and good (at best) across those losses. Meanwhile when Josh lost to teams this season, he looked BAD!!!

[@durellscott9411]

This have nothing to do with football, but if you’re not from Houston, Beyoncé is performing during halftime this Christmas game, so don’t be surprised if the Texas actually played well because more eyes will be watching

[@jamieking9159]

Josh Allen had better stats last year, last year Lamar became the first qb to win mvp without throwing 30 td’s

[@TheKaoticivory]

Lamar played every mvp candidate and blew thm out while looking like best player on the field… that why he won also his strength of schedule was the #2 in NFL… also Allen finished 5th so he wouldn’t of won if Lamar didn’t exist… this year all is 3-3 against teams over 500…with Lamar being 7-3 ….. josh Allen has played 9 teams this year that are in the top 10of the draft his schedule is azzz

[@calebs5257]

Josh Allen also had 18 interceptions

[@kingzach2368]

Bro where do you guys make up these lies from? First qb to win mvp without throwing for 30 tds? Manning doesn’t exist, Gannon? Man the list goes on how much qbs won without throwing for 30 passing tds.

[@hutonghustler5317]

It should be Saquon. It’s fine for QBs to win most years, but when a player has a position defining year they should win. Josh or Lamar winning just really says that this is a QB only award, which to me is kind of boring

[@VladeDivacJr]

I agree with u. If you are having an all time year u should win. Thing is Lamar having an all time year TD/INT ratio all time higher. Passer rating top 3 all time. Leading the league in yards per pass and yards per rush. He is doing things never done.

[@hutonghustler5317]

@yeah it’s really close in my opinion, it just comes down to “how” the voters choose. Often they bias against players who don’t win their division, players that aren’t QBs, and also players that have just won MVPs. So will be interesting to see how it turns out, plus there are still a couple more games

[@rcud1]

So if wins don't matter then have to give MVP to Burrow. Right? Allen had WAY better numbers in yards and TD's last year than Lamar but Lamar won because Ravens had more wins.

[@brianjeffries1668]

Josh got his is not why Lamar shouldn’t win It’s not fair for Allen I get it but when Lamar when cooking what Josh does pales In comparison

[@JT803.]

You don’t beat them. Their kicker misses his kicks. Period

[@ravensnation3446]

Can u imagine if Lamar had a 9-30 game they would still be crucifying him!!!

[@LamarWorld-m5t]

As a lamar fan, I'd like to wish Ron a merry Christmas and hope he gets rich as a Chinese would say on New years. To know it's over 1k mainstream talking heads heads the only one that gives a lamar fan hope and great pushback when others dumb talk about lamar. Lamar doesn't need the mvp, but to hear him say the record is slim and lamar won head to head. 😂😂 epic

[@christineharris9136]

Division games aren't easy who do yall work for

[@doubleaajay611]

Say it plain. This will be a pity MVP if Allen wins. He doesn’t have to even be good to win bc the team around him assist. Meanwhile with Lamar Justin Tucker forgot how to kick for 15 weeks, defense was last in passing yards, Oline in flux with new players. If he has less than a 120 passer rating the team loses. What are we doing here?

[@Dipset415]

The ravens smacked the bills and lamars numbers are better across the board💯this is the power of the media and Josh is my favorite player but he shouldn’t get MVP just because they don’t want to give it to Lamar again

[@alexmelendez6732]

Henry was 100% the reason why they beat the bills 199 yards rushing. Josh has had the better season. If josh had henry lamar wpuldn't even been thought of. All of baltimores losses is with hemry having less than 100 yards. Rex ryan literally provrd it. Josh has been the full show. Stats are not everything like rob said last year when lamar won when he shouldn't have. Rob please stop flip flopping.

[@guyfromnewark]

No it's cuz Josh Allen was trash. No TDs against the 32 ranked pass defense. Joshy is all hype no substance.

[@alexmelendez6732]

@@guyfromnewark yeah ok if you say so. Josh is winning the mvp.

[@DSRKing23]

35-10

[@Mindag13]

All of the Ravens losses, Lamar has had less than a 114 passer rating. Think about that

[@DB-cg4vs]

Cook had 100 yards on 11 carries against pats yesterday. Only reason Josh could win that game

[@oaklandtraphouse]

Its a five man race mahomes , goff , darnold, jackson and allen

[@juanio7036]

Voter fatigue and Allen having the type of season he is having is what’s going to win Allen his first. Assuming he doesn’t wet the bed this last two games

[@enorris768]

he just wet the bed against the Pats, and excuses are being made for him.

[@juanio7036]

@ they won