Savage hasn't really apologised. He just said everyone did it and that he couldn't remember the incident. 😑
@erniescullion84522 жыл бұрын
He did.
@jamieldn2 жыл бұрын
@@erniescullion8452 where did he say sorry?
@RupeWard11 жыл бұрын
They are not apologising for their homophobic attitudes!!! They apologise to Graeme Le Saux for calling him gay. He's not gay, he just reads the Guardian. So their apologies to Le Saux only reinforce the idea that calling someone gay is an insult. They should have apologised to gay people.
@GriefTourist10 жыл бұрын
People like Fowler don't really have opinions they just go with the flow
@adamsmith672810 жыл бұрын
GriefTourist looooooooo
@mattthompson37147 жыл бұрын
"he just reads the Gaurdian" That's much worse than being gay...
@KaizerMan6 жыл бұрын
Matt Thompson Judging by your spelling I guess you read The Sun 😃
@the90sfattyfromtakethat5 жыл бұрын
Rupert Ward people are so wrapped up in oh are they gay who cares move on y is it even a question y do we feel the need to label, that’s y people don’t come out cos all the overactive attention whether positive or negative singled out like a freak
@pelcenglishcourses18414 жыл бұрын
One could hardly call Robbie Savage an authentic beacon of heterosexuality.
@balaclavaman86603 жыл бұрын
Haha beautifully said 🙌
@Revelian19822 жыл бұрын
He could probably kick your arse.
@solidcake3401 Жыл бұрын
He's a millionaire with a beautiful wife and a family.....
@TheJoc3011 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@brooklyniron19998 ай бұрын
Why not? Be specific.
@benstephenson710 жыл бұрын
Robbie Fowler - such an insincere apology.
@GriefTourist10 жыл бұрын
outraged by everything ashamed of nothing
@crimsonrush6 жыл бұрын
Liverpool fans trawled through Twitter to find out something Holgate said when he was about 15. Tried to get him banned like they did with Gray of Burnley.
@PBL1876 жыл бұрын
Ben Stephenson What because he's wasn't teary eyed and begging for forgiveness? It was just petty on-the-pitch antics 15 years earlier and Fowler never meant any malice with it, he said it just to wind him up. He probably wouldn't have if Le Saux was actually openly gay
@riccardoverde46833 жыл бұрын
a show trial, you do it becasue you are forced to
@Spidey-2002 Жыл бұрын
@@GriefTourist We all know the mancs are. Nice try tho
@InYourHeadChangedMan8 жыл бұрын
Didn't Graeme Le Saux Confront Fowler about it in a match and said My wife and Children are in the crowd to which he said I don't give a f**K
@joem79223 жыл бұрын
He said “So what? Elton John was married too”
@Nick-uv7in3 жыл бұрын
@@joem7922 rock hudson too
@petercooper280210 жыл бұрын
10:00 Imagine the fit of hysterics that would have followed if Savage had said "The football community is 100% behind him".
@algorerhythm699 жыл бұрын
It's more gay that they're both called Robbie and they're wearing almost identical clothes.
@huggybear8116 жыл бұрын
Haha very true
@marwanhisham233 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why should apologise really and why saux is offenede although he's not a fag
@michaeldixon48586 жыл бұрын
No other german will speak English as good as this fella
@Stu-SB5 жыл бұрын
Scrolled down for this lol... I thought so too
@phil2003ashleigh2 жыл бұрын
The Queen? King Edward, King George ad infinitum
@Yo-ItsYo2 жыл бұрын
@@phil2003ashleigh ahh yes, the biggest myth there is 😂 you are stupid
@El-Cid-Barrett Жыл бұрын
Rump wizardry is big in Germany. The national team used the Village People for their USA 1994 World Cup song. It was really good and showed how Germany sees some countries as Gandalf principalities.
@aurahyel470010 жыл бұрын
Excellent interview.
@lewiscubbin60218 жыл бұрын
Did Savage really apologise here?
@athlone19753 жыл бұрын
Robbie isn't very sincere with this 'apology'. Indeed he justifies his actions by saying it was a windup. As for Robbie S he didn't apologise so the video heading is misleading.
@fishwatch86773 жыл бұрын
What is it was a windup? Who do you want to see come out and apologise next, Keith? Who will satisfy for your lust for public apologies from your superiors? How about Guti to Zidane for laughing at his bald patch?
@athlone19753 жыл бұрын
@@fishwatch8677 what Fowler did was awful. I can see the snorting prank as funny but the thing with Le Saux. I get he was young but he was representing Liverpool FC. Idiotic thing to do.
@Landofmyfathers-h9c3 жыл бұрын
Screw people's feelings
@secallen10 жыл бұрын
Two naughty schoolboys making very insincere but politically correct apologies. OT Is Robbie Fowler related to Ken Dodd?
@modigbeowulf54828 жыл бұрын
They can't say what they want. So we don't know if they are true or not. If they say anything different their jobs are history.
@davidantony27348 жыл бұрын
I look forward to the day that a sportsperson declaring their sexual preference isn't headline news. Until that day, well done thomas. Proud of ya. NSNO
@KaizerMan6 жыл бұрын
Panatella It will always be headline news since LGBT people make up less than 10% of earth’s population, so it will always be assumed someone is cisgender/straight & so it will always be news & will be surprising to find out someone is gay. That’s just how it is Same irl with non celebs too. Coming out will always be a thing
@cachedreamer5 жыл бұрын
Lets look forward to the day that news isnt news yh
@the90sfattyfromtakethat5 жыл бұрын
Panatella I agree it shows our lack of skills as a race that it is even anyone’s business and we all get excited over the breaking news
@the90sfattyfromtakethat5 жыл бұрын
Kaizer-Man y does it have to be assumed, y is it a thought or concern, do u assume I have two parents u probably do but do u care no u don’t, get a life u uneducated moron
@kejineri30225 жыл бұрын
@@the90sfattyfromtakethat mate he wasn't rude to you, he raised a valid point. No need for ad hominem attacks :(
@NathanBarley19 жыл бұрын
Der Hammer, Villa legend, proud of him
@nibunibu42544 жыл бұрын
They shouldn't have said anything, just kissed tenderly!
@juliettebarasch61804 жыл бұрын
Agreed 😂😂
@davidscanlon25384 жыл бұрын
What did Robbie savage ever win? Shouldn't be a pundit.
@jch22113 жыл бұрын
What did Dan Walker ever win?
@davidscanlon25383 жыл бұрын
@@jch2211Sports Presenter of the year
@billybigbone3 жыл бұрын
@@davidscanlon2538 what did David Scanlon ever win?
@davidscanlon25383 жыл бұрын
@@billybigbone 1st Prize in my local raffle.
@r4h4al2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if all the people in this video were gay. Thomas was just the only one who had the nerve to come out.
@lozza8213 жыл бұрын
once gay people aren’t scared to hold their partners hand in the streets incase they get killed or harassed then there will be no need for a gay player to come out. until then it’s still an issue. homophobia in football is a huge problem, there are no out gay footballers that i know of at a professional international level. i hope when there are players who feel comfortable to come out publicly, they will have a lot of support too.
@lozza8213 жыл бұрын
also going by the reactions to germany and england’s rainbow captain armbands to show support for lgbt people, there is clearly a need for out gay players. even uefa themselves showed the blatant homophobia.
@WHEREYOSAFEAT2 ай бұрын
You shouldn't be rewarded for liking men.... no one cares
@lozza8212 ай бұрын
@@WHEREYOSAFEAT unfortunately a lot of people do care, people still get killed and harassed and shunned for being gay… there is no reward lol. equality isn’t a reward, it should be the norm!
@MrSpookyLover8 жыл бұрын
should not be forgotten. football has a way to go.anyway I doubt they meant it
@rylecut6 жыл бұрын
this wasnt that long ago but damn, did TV really look this shitty? this looks ilke it was mad in 1988 or something am i missing something about digital transfers or was tv just this sit?
@YayaTourney3 жыл бұрын
you're missing something about digital transfers
@dannyackland20593 жыл бұрын
I think whatever your phone is that you watching this on is the problem and your spelling is shit
@teddy10663 жыл бұрын
Graeme LeSaux isn’t gay. He just reads the Guardian.
@ColGesso10 ай бұрын
To be fair reading the Guardian is pretty gay
@vinnygambini16 жыл бұрын
If I say this with absolutely no feeling can I please be asked back by the bbc to do more punditry?
@TheMrbc742 жыл бұрын
Fowler apologises savage on the other hand I didn’t hear any apology
@Doncorleone442 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest, footballers don’t come out as gay because of the potential chants from the terraces it’s as simple as that
@solidcake3401 Жыл бұрын
Isn't the issue a gay boy getting changed with naked men?
@floatingpeaks45845 ай бұрын
He was straight before he joined Villa.
@raasputin9 күн бұрын
Players need to stay away from villa
@modigbeowulf54828 жыл бұрын
Must be mentally difficult to deal with. I would say I would keep quiet and just go with women. But I am not gay. So, I can never know how it is for him.
@ejkalegal3145 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a reality where things were the opposite. Would you "keep quiet and just go with men"?
@of_doom_and_steel4772 жыл бұрын
I remember thinking at the time that the behaviour of Fowler et al was ambivalent, since it could be seen as making fun of Le Saux's own uptight, touchy and clearly homophobic reactions. Le Saux always gets portrayed as the victim, but the energy he gave off was very much in the vein of "how dare you impugn my dignity as a normal and respectable heterosexual familiy man? I'll have you know that I'm married and have fathered a child - which proves that it's scientifically and biologically impossible for me to be a disgusting abnormal f@g. You should treat me with the respect I deserve, and reserve your scorn for a misbegotten pervert who actually deserves to be victimized!" In reality, society hasn't changed much at all since the 90s. Then, as now, most people were spineless fence-sitters who blew with the wind! The main difference now is that the lion's share of the corporate media is (superficially) opposed to homophobia, so that people who would formerly have sat on the fence (in fear of the violently homophobic folk-devil-hunting aspects of society, which still exist but in less overtly public places) are now unwilling to be seen in the public eye as tolerating homophobia, even though they still seem intensely awkward discussing it (like Gary Lineker in this clip), and so that those who are not in the public eye (but who have greater proximity to the violently homophobic folk-devil-hunting aspects of society) are liable to whinge resentfully about "SJWs force-feeding their lifestyle down our mother-fucking throats" and curtailing their inalienable free-dumb of speech (which is code-word for saying that "I used to feel brave saying aggressively homophobic things in public, knowing perfectly well that the vast majority of people would be unwilling to challenge me, but now I no longer feel safe saying the same things and am perpetually anxious about being challenged, and it's causing me to become conscious of what a spineless fence-sitter I actually am! Please send help!")
@sarnobat20002 жыл бұрын
It shows you that bullying for something today may seem cool but you might find yourself remembered for the wrong reasons when society progresses. I'm a Liverpool fan and Fowler is one of my favourites but it's a cautionary tale to choose your taunts wisely because you may have to swallow them.
@Ryang4034 жыл бұрын
Imagine if he'd said ; " and yes u know i think 'so n so has come out, which is great to,... and they were 'Er no.. no.. they havnt Thomas...' haha
@brianlaudrupchannel6 жыл бұрын
Well played to Grahem Le Saux though. Must have a strong mind.
@DC420874 жыл бұрын
He werent gay
@brianlaudrupchannel4 жыл бұрын
@@DC42087 I know
@roytheboy19636 ай бұрын
I thought Robbie fowler came across as very genuine in his apology, whereas Robbie Savage was in denial, considering he was known as one of the biggest wind up merchants, he should have just owned it..
@909tizer9 жыл бұрын
Only dawned after career gay....hmmmm it's a shame as it would have mean't such a lot more if he'd have come out when playing, I suppose,at least he has come out now though
@TokyoJoe7039 жыл бұрын
Robbie snorting up the touchline was worse \ ........... 😁
@alex285512 жыл бұрын
Robbie Fowler’s apology seemed genuine and i don’t think he’s a homophobe, but Robbie Savage seemed to skip round the question maybe he is homophobic idk
@cnote24582 жыл бұрын
He doesn't come across homophobic what so ever. I agree he should of answered the question better. But I think his trying to skip the question over embarrassment. The thing we all got to remember the world has changed a lot at a speedy rate in 20-30 years. I remember gay was used as an insult in the 90s. But 90% of people saying it didn't hate homosexuals. They just didn't know the damage it was doing as they was looking for a quick cheap laugh.
@JamesMawdsley-b8o3 ай бұрын
Fowler and Savage should both apologise for taking money and kidding the public that they were so call professional footballers.
@TomBartram-b1c6 жыл бұрын
He's obviously got a book out
@P1mpMyBr1de7 жыл бұрын
Cristiano Ronaldo next!
@AuthenticSunnah6105 жыл бұрын
Why is the presenter interrogating and putting Robbie Fowler and Savage on the spot?
@Wonderguard12 жыл бұрын
Probably trying to make them feel "guilty" for freedom of speech
@markredmond72039 жыл бұрын
I love jugs but broke the news ffs. Leave the man to get on with his life
@simonevans61842 жыл бұрын
The usual defence it was a long time ago. My dad's 76 and his best friend and best man is gay. Uncle John came out in the 70s lads. Don't try to use time and culture as anexcuse for your beliefs
@emo_drummer_9398 Жыл бұрын
My three year old does better apologies than that…
@natureclips58492 жыл бұрын
Being Gay had no influence on soccer ability
@englandstillhasit10 жыл бұрын
I dont think so. I've met savage at my brothers school while he was at Leicester. My brother attended a special needs school and I very much doubt savage got paid to be there and he took pictures with all the lads their even me. Anything said on the pitch is like chatting crap in the pub. I think savage is a good man altho I never actually heard of him till that day. Football wasn't my thing. Girls and cars was. But the fact is he went and met aload of specials when he didnt need to.
@oscarross648510 жыл бұрын
aload of ''specials'' lol are u thick? just because there different dosen't make them less of a human....I know u didnt say that but refering to them as specials makes you come across as a bad person mate.
@davewhite51439 жыл бұрын
English-RC this is a wind up. if you aren't a football fan how did u find this
@PBL1876 жыл бұрын
Amazes me how anyone can call a person scum cos they think their apology to a player they taunted just to wind them up and not out of malice, 15 or more years ago, was "insincere" or "not a proper apology", when that same player once punched his own teammate in the face over a remark and attacked opponent footballers also over remarks designed only to wind him up and nothing more. Get a grip
@publicrelations96123 жыл бұрын
I think things have moved on especially in the premiership as it’s become more of a pressure cooker and in turn professional. Not in every aspect but he is right in that you are there for a job and it’s totally football. I don’t think it was always that with the culture and in football in general it’s still a issue. Not just that but as Robbie says even as a wind up. It’s it just this it’s racism and it’s not even clear cut or black and white (excuse the pun) . From Colombian players doing Chinese eye gestures to Russian fans throwing bananas. It’s cross culture. You just have to read some of the fan pages to see African fans making. Remarks about the English and English fans who were racist to three young lads over penalties. These individuals are uneducated fools and they are everywhere sadly. Look at these two dummies as a good example. Some unity and cool head will make the changes needed slowly over time. In respect of players to players it’s definitely uncommon now.
@davekent60236 жыл бұрын
Don't get all the "insincere apologies" comments. They just taunted a former opponent (that isn't even gay) and you can't expect them to be THAT sorry because of it. Everybody gets abuse sometimes and it's not a good thing, but neither is that big of a deal. Nowadays using words such as "faggot" is seen as some kind of sacrilege, like insulting Jesus Christ in the Middle Ages.
@gfoot99166 жыл бұрын
Dave Kent The fact that he isn’t even gay kinda makes it worse. As your practically defaming someone for something they are not.
"I was fine Gary, lived with a woman and just....well normal Gary....then I played for Aston vile and it turned me into a raving bender.....I think it's their fans, it's infectious"!
@L1am216 жыл бұрын
YES SOTV KRO!
@frankcarrodus75436 жыл бұрын
Sad small heath turd
@nikitamurray88339 жыл бұрын
Did no one notice Gary wipe his hand on his pants after he shook hitzlesbergers hand haha hypocrite.
@GriefTourist9 жыл бұрын
+nikita murray call that a wipe?
@fenwaypark47549 жыл бұрын
+nikita murray Jump to conclusions much?
@bananajoelikesbanan8 жыл бұрын
+nikita murray he didn't wipe it
@thebatman9398 жыл бұрын
nikita murray didn't want spunk on it
@mattthompson37147 жыл бұрын
Maybe Gary became aroused and gave his leg a quick rub to stave his lust...
@jimmyribshite70923 жыл бұрын
Reading the comments here where people get on their high horse slating someone for slating someone else like they are on some sort of moral high ground, doesn't matter if your slating someone's personality, someone's sexuality or someone's career the fact you need your opinion to be heard while putting someone down for WHATEVER reason makes you exactly the same. It's just human nature get over yourselves
@natureclips58492 жыл бұрын
Section 28
@stephenmears30644 жыл бұрын
Bruno yah
@hyperrat129 жыл бұрын
They say "how far are we from having a gay footballer" umm... Well Robbie Rodgers is a gay footballer and quite a good one at that. He may not be a european footballer, but he's our footballer here in the MLS/US
@sobbyhasselhoff9 жыл бұрын
+hyperrat12 Robbie Rodgers is not a good footballer. He couldn't get in a shit Leeds team.
@hyperrat129 жыл бұрын
+sobbyhasselhoff that was a while ago, since coming out of retirement he's done quite a lot, and I think won 2 MLS cups. If you actually watched him, you'd know how well he's done.
@sobbyhasselhoff9 жыл бұрын
MLS Cups? That statement has done nothing to prove he's a good footballer.
@jamess67878 жыл бұрын
+sobbyhasselhoff I collected 8 tokens on the back of my rice krispies and sent off for an MLS cup
@MrJohncastillo18 жыл бұрын
+hyperrat12 Need someone important to make a change not Robbie fucking Rodgers, he's shit. MLS is a terrible league where great players go to retire because they wanna go 'easy' in their old age lol
@Trecesolotienesdos8 жыл бұрын
he;s german, with a northn english accent....haha.
@chickenoriental12105 жыл бұрын
And he's a puff
@kevincrinks4 жыл бұрын
It's a Birmingham accent, through his years at Aston Villa. Hardly northern
@anelka109 жыл бұрын
The apologies at the end were cringe worthy, it was banter on the pitch, noting malicious, no need for an apology.
@paulbarrett33778 жыл бұрын
+3Hunna FTO fuck off gobshite your not a red
@VillaBoys1237 жыл бұрын
SCOUSE Liverpool I thought that at first too, a Scouser who can write and express grown up opinions. Can't be a red, surely.
@wrighj6 жыл бұрын
Draco The Lord How come you all hate us on the internet but never say anything to our faces ?
@g-1west4557 жыл бұрын
I'm a United fan but that was class when Fowler done that will Le Saux. Funny as fuck.
@judgerimmed-her72918 жыл бұрын
saw him take a 30 yard free kick for Villa from an acute angle hit the back of the net what a BENDER it was
@jerryoshea31166 жыл бұрын
We live in different,more knowledable times(on certain matters&subjects,but not all)But back then,in Football&life in general young Guys always got stick from older Guys.If they thought there was anything they could use to get at you,the Gloves came off and nothing was out of bounds ..Now Graham Le Saux was a really good player,but had a spiteful&Petulant side to his character on the Field(He would often fly in2 challenges with his Studs showing,or kick out at players,which would never endear u to anyone,back then)But from my perspective,he has always wanted to portray himself as this Victim or someone who was picked on(as if that was something new in any working Enviroment back then&i'm sure is still the status quo)His comments about "I read the Guardian&other players resented me for that"(which I think was a little Melodramatic& right load of Bollocks)And he hasn't done to badly since! I'm sure if He had a $ for every interview he has done&raised this point,his Bank Balance would have increased further! .And once again being honest Garry Lineker has become somewhat of "PC"Ambassador and so has Le Saux,they will always portray themselves as the "Good boys,and innocent Parties."Or maybe always looking to be" The Teachers Pet"While constantly occupying the Moral high ground! Now neither of the 2 Robbies were Saints or intellectual Giants,but I'm sure neither were they the worst examples of Sinner's either.. So thankfully we've made progress,but Football in general has always been based on what u could do on the field. If u played well,done ur Job or at least played with committment then u had the respect of ur Fans,but not the opposition,so if they could find a"Chink in ur Armour"Your Sexuality or some aspect of ur Personal life,then as far as they were concerned"Everthings fair Game"!Not nice&and it can be unpleasant but let's keep the conversation real! .Unlike Mr Lineker and Mr Le Saux!!.
@raycroal3 жыл бұрын
what was false???
@TheCinderellaman104 жыл бұрын
What is the need of coming out of the closet? No one should care, get on with your life, play your football. It does not make sense.
@chocolatepoodle60284 жыл бұрын
No one should care, but guess what? They do. That's why people have to come out. Stop trivialising the issue.
@marksaunders58665 жыл бұрын
If your getting changed in the same rooms as men dressed or naked they should know if it’s kept secret I can see how that would make players angry there’s nothing wrong with being gay I’m just saying in this profession the players should know
@zapre22842 жыл бұрын
Gary the cringe linaker
@oswaldcocking1176 жыл бұрын
...football shuda neva a promote battyman ...although the western world a move along these 'progressive lines, me just cyaa rate nuh batty bway, worser that dem in a football...me nuh bizniz wid dem still but boom bye bye me seh...
@astirla35604 жыл бұрын
Oswald Cocking I agreed with you
@jrm10773 жыл бұрын
I feel the same about your kind, bring back the old days
@lee_vs_the_world4 жыл бұрын
Sausage smoker!!
@0111773 жыл бұрын
Member of the brown saloon....
@lee_vs_the_world3 жыл бұрын
@@011177 🤣😂
@TheRaveMusicArchive8 жыл бұрын
PC Britain.
@MrSpookyLover8 жыл бұрын
bullshit. they taunted people with slurs. Be a bigot but keep it to yourself society should despise bigotry
@MrSpookyLover8 жыл бұрын
that is not going to happen. thank you so much though, too kind! did u take your xanex this morning?
@PBL1876 жыл бұрын
MrRobynLover They only did it as a laugh. If it had been someone they knew was gay they probably would have used different taunts. There is a difference between petty jibes and actual bigotry and persecution. Only people too sensitive to see that say otherwise.
@MissBlennerhassett8766 жыл бұрын
@@PBL187 Only people who've never been on the receiving end think it's harmless fun.
@wrighj6 жыл бұрын
People need to grow a pair . Everyone such SJWS now who are offended by anything .
@MohamedAli-xu3uw5 жыл бұрын
It's the disgusting freaks.
@slatter1x8197 жыл бұрын
Fowler GOD
@skemkarlos10 жыл бұрын
Fowler is coooool
@huggybear8116 жыл бұрын
I liked him as a player and can't believe he's gay.......what a bummer