We Flipped The Golden Nugget Build Up Side Down!

The crew put Ed's LJ20 on the rotisserie to make body work quite a bit easier. Robby plastic welds the new grill back to original condition. Demri and Lil Bray celebrate their birthdays 1 day apart!
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[@CaseohsBackflapp]

Put the chain links on the busted grill and send it to the person that sent you the good grill so they can put it on their wall and forever be part of the story

[@tosgem]

I had the same idea! Only addition is sign the grill, also get Matt to, and Paul from Fab Rats EDIT - and Ed somehow, maybe after the reveal, as others have suggested

[@jeffrentsch4318]

Return autographed grill to donor of good grill. If the donor is not wanting that auction off broken autographed grill and donate to charity.

[@CapnPink28]

Perfect….only way it should be!

[@eatmy400]

This a great idea to include everyone from the community that helped out.

[@thereallasre]

This. Genius. Perfection.

[@mongomay1]

Plasma table setup issues: Excessive amperage or low standoff can also cause low-speed dross. (Some low speed dross in the corners of a plasma cut is normal since velocity does not remain constant through a sharp turn). To eliminate low speed dross: Increase the cut speed in 5 ipm increments Increase the standoff in 1/16 increments or 5 volt increments Decrease the amperage in 10 amp increments If none of these measures improve the cut, consider a smaller nozzle size - High standoff or low amperage (for a given material thickness and cutting speed) can also cause high speed dross since both of these changes cause a reduction in the energy of the plasma jet. To eliminate high speed dross: Check the nozzle first for signs of wear (gouging, oversize or elliptical orifice) Decrease the cutting speed in 5 ipm increments Decrease the standoff in 1/16 increments or 5 volts increments Increase the amperage (but do not exceed 95% of the nozzle orifice rating) - To eliminate top spatter dross: Check the nozzle for signs of wear Decrease the cutting speed in 5 ipm increments Decrease the standoff in 1/16 increments or 5 volt increments - The window varies with plasma gas used: For example, nitrogen and air plasma gasses have a relatively narrow dross free window on carbon steels while oxygen plasma has a wider dross free window. (Oxygen plasma gas reacts with carbon steel to produce a finer spray of molten metal, each droplet having a lower surface tension. This molten spray is more easily ejected from the kerf). - To judge the optimum cutting speed: Method 1: make a series of test cuts at various cutting speeds and choose the speed that produces the cleanest cut. Lag lines (small ridges in the surface of the cut) are a good indication of cutting speed. Slow cutting speeds produce vertical lag lines that are perpendicular to the plane of the plate. Fast cutting speeds make slanted s-shaped lag lines that run parallel to the plate along the bottom edge. By examining the lag lines the operator can determine whether an increase or decrease in speed is needed to find the dross free window. Many operators have the tendency to slow the machine down at the first appearance of dross, but often an increase in speed is necessary. Method 2: watch the arc (through the appropriate welding lens) during the cut and dynamically change the speed to produce the optimum arc characteristics. To do this, observe the angle of the arc as it exits the bottom of the work-piece. If you're cutting with air plasma gas, the arc should be vertical as it exits the bottom side of the cut. With nitrogen or argon/hydrogen, a slight trailing arc is best, and with oxygen plasma gas, the best cut speed is one that gives you a slight leading arc. - Do some studying on what your settings and consumables; maybe these points were not considered on setup, just get it running. Make list with As Found, As left #1, As Left #2 etc. until you get it dialed in for the metal thicknesses and material types. Save those parameters as different settings if you can, maybe that will save you headaches in the long term. Good Luck! www.hypertherm.com/en-US/support/system-support/maintenance-and-use/cut-quality/too-much-dross/

[@Bigbrunibelow]

Came to comments just to see if there was someone who knew his problem lol

[@DaddyBeanDaddyBean]

Wow. It's not your first day working with plasma, is it? Well done! (tips hat)

[@1st2ndtimothymartin37]

That's some good stuff stay strong warriors.

[@mongomay1]

@@DaddyBeanDaddyBean Just as a maintenance mechanic in a commercial/industrial scale bakery. Everything about waist level was Stainless Steel and we did everything by hand, did not have CNC machines available in maintenance shops back then. We called on Manuel Labor to do it.

[@lancefarmer8096]

Zach

[@tosgem]

What you should do with the chain links: melt them into the old grill in the same spots and send it back to the people who donated that good grill, signed by you and Matt and Fab Rats, so they can hang it in the same place on their wall. EDIT - Also get Ed's signature somehow, maybe wait til after reveal. And another thought - everyone should sign the new grill that goes on Eds car. Maybe put some clearcoat over the top

[@marinusdedreu3833]

I like this idea

[@tdwz1652]

this is a wonderful idea

[@MBMedic007]

This is a great idea.

[@snowballil3133]

Yasss

[@garysprandel1817]

This

[@DoesItTho]

Doood! Robbie is no joke good. Real fuggin good. No corners cut, no complaining, just well versed knowledge with a great work ethic. Kudos to him and his team

[@FabRats]

Looking good.👌

[@lagoonrd4173]

Well that was easy!

[@jeremysales1232]

This is definitely a cool project and the way all these shops are participating is awesome! This project brought everyone involved at least this new subscriber.

[@RobbyLayton]

Thank you!

[@John_B_Fab]

@@RobbyLayton That down slag is most than likely cutting speed related. Try reducing the speed of the cutter by small increment and compare results. Might have to lower the torch a wee bit too but start trying reducing speed a little and see where it goes. When its cutting too slow, it makes wider cuts and more down slag. To fix it, raise the torch, or increase speed a little bit every time until you're happy with your cut

[@kevinsouerdyke3016]

If steel is water quenched, it can cool too fast and become hard, but brittle. Metal cooled slowly, or correctly quenched can be hardened without the brittle issue. You can water quenched unimportant pieces so you can handle them, but with important pieces that will see a load, you should avoid water quenching.

[@mattknowsnothing]

Yep you saved me from trying to explain. Especially relevant when joining thick to thin sections. I do think however that it probably won't be an issue for them. Thanks guys cant wait to see it finished:)

[@o0RageCore0o]

Yes they should redo the hitch. They threw it in water last episode

[@j.decker7443]

Except stainless steel. Stainless likes a quench

[@stargazer7644]

You can't harden mild steel, guys. It doesn't have enough carbon.

[@remorrey]

For an excellent explanation of strength of materials and hardening, quenching, tempering, etc. see kzbin.info/www/bejne/q53JdKt6qLuHjdE.

[@zarfer]

Surprising how many speciality hammers there are. One of mine is a lightning hammer. Never strikes twice in the same spot.

[@f87115]

I have one of those as well

[@dustinwarner6594]

Haha hell I thought I'd heard em all! I'm using that for sure

[@richardelliott9511]

Every hammer I own has that feature built right in! Lol

[@61rampy65]

I have several like that, but it WILL hit my thumb several times.

[@c.a.nixiii4650]

Yep! A sack full of hammers!

[@marcfiore4319]

I was a fan of SRK Cycles and Bikes and Beards channels long before I found Matt’s Off Road Recovery. The Golden Nugget project introduced me to Fab Rats, Robby Layton, Tom Tom, and Bleepin’ Jeep. I am really glad you guys hooked up and got together on these jobs. I think what you guys are doing for Ed is FANTASTIC!

[@jdgvee9313]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Derry and Bray. And Many more to celebrate 🍾!

[@Judiland]

My favorite age was 30. Happy and blessed birthday to you both, Derry, enjoy this age, us old folks will tell you that your 30's are the very best years of your life.

[@jlogan6303]

30 might have been my favorite too. I really can't remember!!

[@131chuck]

happy birthday "Boss" and Bray!! I am simply amazed by what you can do with the plastic weld. Great Job Robby

[@barrykelly2722]

What he said

[@990drifter]

Happy Birthday to both Demri and Lil Bray, I hope you both have a lovely day. My mother celebrates her 93rd today and we're so blessed to have her. Good luck from Northern Ireland.

[@THACKER71]

Happy Birthday Boss lady. Love seeing you and the kids in the shop, a real family buisness. You are truly blessed. Great stuff.

[@cindykeller9668]

Happy Birthday to BOTH the Boss and Bray !!!

[@W1se0ldg33zer]

That powder coating sure is special. The sandblasting and watching it dry part is pure ASMR content.

[@michaelssmith3182]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY , BRAYDON and "THE BOSS LADY" !!!!

[@rallydatp510]

Happy Birthday Demri. Hope you had a great day with the family. Love watching all the videos you all do.

[@ashenthrenchetty7]

Happy birthday boss!!!🎂 Love the channel..thanks to Mat and the golden nugget for introducing the channel to me.

[@wylde007]

That plastic repair/weld is amazing. The number of times I've wished I'd had something like that over the years I couldn't count without taking off my shoes. You do a brilliant job. Happy birthday, young lady.

[@cheesecurd100s]

It's good when it works. Sometimes it's super hard to find the right plastic rod that'll work though

[@tomschmidt381]

Happy birthday everyone. Great fun watching progress on the Nugget.

[@intrepid5684]

This is going to be the nicest LJ20 on the planet, hands down. Beautiful work.

[@garryschweder4288]

Thank you for the good editing techniques and camera works. Good Job on how you piece together each person's character too make this great production . You're the Queen ,Happy Birthday.

[@__KNOX__]

HAPPPPPPY BIRTHDAY DEMRY…. My wife had our daughter the day before her birthday also.. August 29th and 30th. We love you guys n how wonderfully you share ur lives with us. Thank you and have a awesome day

[@gayle4804]

Happy Birthday to your wife and your son, thank goodness you guys are so good at making the Golden Nugget even more beautiful than it already is

[@NCMATT]

I've done body work for 25 years and you are a very smart body man. Keep up the hard work.

[@LivnlargeCO]

Chain links would make an interesting keychain for the Nugget!

[@louskunt9798]

Excellent idea man!💯

[@terrywells3955]

Totally agree

[@averyw.3939]

Good idea, also just commenting to "boost engagement" since your comment got stolen by one of those annoying bots.

[@ischmidt]

I didn't know plastic welding was a thing, it was super interesting to see how it works. And Happy Birthday to the Boss!

[@skilletpan5674]

There's another interesting one that you can do with superglue and baking powder. It makes a kind of hard plastic and there's some youtube vids of people fixing old computer cases etc with it.

[@Chris_at_Home]

I know people fix snowmachine cowlings using plastic welding.

[@dennisgeroux4483]

Happy Birthday Bray, Happy Birthday Demry. Enjoy this special time.

[@bobfreeman1319]

the simple answer is that heating metal expands the molecules, when you go from hot to cold quickly by quenching the metal the molecules will be set tighter together thus making the metal harder. however hardness does not equate to strength. in the case of knives they can be very easy to snap after quenching. the next step in the process is to temper the metal by heating it gently until you see your temper colors which range from straw or gold being the first colors to appear, to blue and purple, the final colors which indicate softer metal.

[@10Bdog10]

Happy Birthday 🎂 Demri and Lil Bray! I love how Robbie is always sneaking in pop culture references.

[@joshcole9353]

"fixing up for ed" turning into an absolute amazing restore. yall really have stepped up the build in a big way!

[@meden1000]

Happy Birthday to the "Boss" You have your work cut out keeping Robby and the team in check

[@dustinmeier9753]

Happy Anniversary of your 26th Birthday, boss-lady. I need to get better at plastic welding, especially since I’ve started playing with 3D printing and need to join sections together when I print large parts on a small printer.

[@MischiefMakerTV]

Happy birthday, Demri 🥳. Can’t wait to meet you!

[@chappyd5109]

Happy birthday to you both. Love your channel as I grew up in a shop very similar. Rotisseries we not invented yet sixty years ago. I remember my dad used to use lead after finishing the metal as best as he could.

[@lynnmoore2664]

Happy belated birthday to Bray and happy birthday to the boss lady Demri!

[@wayne1959]

Happy Birthday to Demri from these old Aussie fans..We love all you do and the family involvement and team work are just great to see..

[@jeffrentsch4318]

The thing with metallurgy is way complex. Heating and cooling both change molecular structure, hardness and strength. Hardness is tolerance of deformation and ability to hold an edge, often resulting in brittleness. Strength is generally softer less able to hold edge, more likely to bend than break. Full since of changing composition of metals alloys and carbon content.

[@cotton-Dave]

Happy Birthday "BOSS"!! Happy Birthday "LIL BRAY"!! Great job you're doing there, Robby and crew!! Thanks!!

[@gunrunner4747]

Happy Birthday to “The Boss” and Bray. Best for the next year!

[@wesleyblanton2432]

I can’t wait for the reveal of the Golden-nugget, the anticipation is killing me, I feel like it’s my Grandpa that’s getting it and I only know Ed from the videos!

[@jerrys2745]

I am hoping that they get it finished and back to Ed before he is too old to drive.

[@bigsexymuthashutyomouth2546]

Same here. I hope that Ed stays on the earth for a very long time and gets to enjoy the fruits of all these guys work.

[@jeffchimileski6283]

The hand of love at 7:04. Awe, so sweet!

[@jasonpopielarczyk7511]

Metal strength and hardness are two different things. Quenching something to make it harder could also make it brittle. But it depends on the metal alloy.

[@laurelrowe5536]

It also depends on the consistency of the quenching liquid. Oil is used because it quenches metal even all the way through; whereas water makes the surface brittle and may leave the interior of the metal soft.

[@haroldshobbies]

They are working with low carbon steel, so quenching doesn’t do too much. It can change it a little bit, but not enough to make a difference. Like you said. It depends on the alloy.

[@CapitalCreators]

@@laurelrowe5536 thats false, oil and water have different rates at which they are able to absorb heat. Because of there differing specific heat capacity water cools more rapidly than oil and increases hardness.

[@John_B_Fab]

Ok, i'll educate a few here... Quenching metal in water isnt good at all in anyway shape or from, planet, dimension, whatever. Just don't. Only thing you will achieve using water is distort or cause cracking inside the metal. End of the story. Low carbon steels and low hardenability alloys will quench a lot better in fast oils while highly hardenable alloys quench better in hot oils gonig from 90F to about 400-425F depending on the metal or application. Y'all welcome ;) Been forging knives swords and damascus as a hobby for a few years now... you learn a lot about metal types, grades, properties and what do what if you do this or that. Im a guy who like doing tests, try and learn.

[@bobber55]

@@John_B_Fab I agree 100%. While they're giving themselves a high five, they need to look up quenching weldments like I have seen them doing in other videos. I am just old school and old. Been welding before they were even born and first thing taught was never quench a hot weld.

[@antimatter4733]

For the knife thing, you can quench a blade in oil or water, depending on the steel, water will harden the blade more but also increase the risk of cracking due to the thermal shock. If you want it really hard you can cryo quench it in water or oil below 0 degrees Celsius. But all that only works on steel that contains enough carbon.

[@johnfontaine2760]

Yeah you can’t harden mild steel.

[@mikerubynfs]

Where I work we make bearings, to make the rings to the correct state we heat them (900C to 1200C) in a vacuum, and quench in 80C oil for hardness. Then we temper by heating up and letting them cool slowly.

[@holdmycoffee4470]

You mean "steel ain't steel"🙄 glad I read the comments BEFORE I added my 2¢

[@jamesdouglas8726]

Happy Birthday to the Boss and the Young Man! I sure enjoy watching ya'lls work. Ed is a blessed man. He's gonna be so proud. Keep doing what ya do and God bless all of you.

[@FJAdventurer]

Right on time! Every third video is a Nugget video - with crazy view stats! The nugget has been your’s, Paul’s and Matt’s KZbin channel’s golden nugget, lol. Keep the collaboration coming!

[@RobbyLayton]

Im sure you went to Matt and Paul’s channel and didn’t say the same comment to them even tho for both of them the golden nugget is the highest viewed videos for their channel as well!

[@FJAdventurer]

@@RobbyLayton Sorry man - I didn’t mean disrespect. I’ll edit my comment to sound less snarky. I applaud you for taking advantage of it. It’s a great project. I’d love to see you guys collaborate more on things like this. The banana was another cool project to follow through the various channels. Paul definitely got the same boost, and had the same nugget release rate. I didn’t pickup on it at that point.

[@diesel46809]

Wow great job guy's. Happy Birthday to the boss and boy. Hope they both have a great Birthday. That's looking amazing so far, what a great job on the body work and the powder coating looks great. Keep safe.

[@melbice9906]

Great episode, Happy Birthday To the gorgeous Demry and great commentary and showmanship from Robby and crew, much love and respect from 🇦🇺

[@JasonHam41]

Excessive slag on the plasma is normally through having the travel speed set too low.

[@kaffall]

Ok I have to admit that I was BLOWN AWAY by that Old Greg reference! I would not have guessed you’d be a fan. Showed me! 😂

[@sherylsmith7620]

You and your beautiful family and crew are very bright spot in my life during such not so bright times. Love watching the Golden Nugget progress! Thank you Robby and Boss, Happy Birthday!!

[@markgunnell2149]

I am amazed at the expertise in everything you do. Your crew, Matt, Paul, and all those companies you work with. Thanks very very much

[@amsmithonline]

Happy Birthday, Demry!!! 30 Never looked so good! Happy Birthday, Bray!!! I hope you both have special days.🎉🎁🎉

[@SB-pz3xg]

I can't believe the life this Suzuki has had and the rebuild its getting. If Ed doesn't realize just how much he's appreciated after this, nothing will. Love watching this as it shows the goodness in people.

[@juansandoval1171]

Happiest of Birthdays to the boss lady as well as your son Happy Birthday!! 🎂🎉🎉🎉

[@gushill1247]

Happy Birthday! Absolutely love your content! It blows my mind what you guys do! Thanks for sharing!

[@wink9970]

Happy Birthday Demry! Hopefully the gold you get is not just from the nugget.

[@Overbudget_Overland]

Happy Birthday Boss Lady! 21 with 9 years of experience!

[@matdavenport5432]

What a great job you all do. This coming from a guy that’s been into cars his whole life. I’m 49. And have worked in body shops and mechanic shops my whole life. Keep up the good work 👍😎

[@tomchristensen8619]

Bobby, you basically blow me away with your amazing skills and thoroughness in every single video! WOW!

[@tylerdurden2644]

Plasma cutter, distance to work piece, clean dry air, change to proper nozzle and check swirl tip or change to another. A good welding supply tech can help with that. Yeah, they are hard to find though.

[@AnonYmous-dp4by]

Looks like a small increase in speed would reduce slag

[@TheAntinowherelane]

That's some fine hammer & dolly work Robbie. Body work is equal parts art and science.

[@brianrabino2600]

I do really admire Mr. Layton into details from small one to big one. A1 class works. thumbs up! Golden Nuggets in good hand. S/O

[@northerntrouble]

Happy Birthday to Bray and Demry a.k.a. ( the Boss )!! Wish you both all the best on your special days!! As per the slag problem with the plasma table, have you tried to reach out to the manufacture and see if they can help you get it set up for the table or as another viewer mentioned reach out to you weldering supplier and see if they can help clean up the slag problem. Keep up the amazing job you and the crew are doing with all the jobs your doing for your customers not just your friends vehicles. It’s great seeing the work ethics you all have and the passion for detail and the job at hand.

[@tommythuntdeer]

Happy birthday Boss and Bray! Wow! The amount of energy and skill involved in this project is amazing! Thank you for sharing this experience with us!

[@dzfh98]

Happy birthday to the Boss an to Bray!

[@ryanmilligan9372]

The Golden Nugget will be amazing looking for Ed. Enjoying seeing it go from a rust bucket in the woods to new again 😁

[@tonysantana1493]

You all are doing a great job. I'm just concerned that Ed's not getting any younger, l sure do hope to see this golden Nugget gets done soon!

[@mrblueun1080]

Me tooooo !!!

[@Capohanf1]

I was thinking as a back up make a Golden Nugget Walker just in case Utah decides ed is to old to get a license!!!

[@mrblueun1080]

@@Capohanf1 even if so. He won’t need it in the sticks ! ☺️

[@cliffordgarstka8224]

Happy birthday, boss lady! Even Ed, in the background, enjoyed Dinner’s jokes.

[@jeromeknasinski3862]

You ARE Good

[@richardtaylor7457]

Many happy returns of the day Boss!🎂🍰. The Nugget is coming together beautifully.

[@alanbradshaw5337]

Happy birthday boss

[@electrontube]

I love how Robby wants to keep as much of the original history with the car. Even the two chain links that came off the donor grill.

[@ildefonsogiron4034]

It's not just my imagination: Demry gets more beautiful with time. Happy birthday Boss! 🎂☕🍕💐💐💐

[@braedonlayton]

Yo that’s sus

[@coyote102076]

From all of us here at the Coyote Adventures crew, HAPPY BIRTHDAY Demri! And a belated happy birthday to Brey as well! Great channel dude.

[@RicCross]

Happy Birthday to the “Boss”! Ya’ll do a great job on this channel, really enjoy watching all the good work.

[@jesterisfool]

Clean that chain link up a little, spray it the same color as the Suzuki and Rokon, and make Ed a keychain for when he gets his keys back!!!

[@SB-vt9tz]

Happy Birthday 🎉 to both. Love watching y’all work!

[@michaeltablet8577]

Your videos are educational, funny and encouraging! God bless you all! Happy Birthday!

[@derekpiehl85]

Happy birthday to the boss lady and to your son.

[@bengalipeau1968]

Happy Birthday Lil-Bray and and we can't forget the BOSS's Birthday. Three cheers to both of you, CHEERS, CHEERS, CHEERS.

[@denniscleveland669]

It’s awesome, how y’all are putting so much love, into Ed’s Golden Nugget!

[@plantertrey]

The trio of Robby, Hillbilly, and Dinner are a hilarious trio! So entertaining!

[@QuantumLeap83]

There's a difference between "toughness" and "hardness" in any material. Toughness is the ability to deform without breaking or "plasticity". Hardness is the resistance to deformation. When quenching (tempering) high carbon steel, you're trading toughness for hardness. Ideally you could case harden, then you get a compromise.

[@d.b.cooper]

Couldn’t you bake it for an hour or two in a residential oven set on high? Wouldn’t that temper it some?

[@phattzoo51]

That plastic repair is pretty cool. We can find lots of videos of regular welding, but little on plastic welding on automobiles.

[@chuckc8808]

Happy Birthday to “The Boss”. Just love what you are doing with the channel. Great job. Just enjoy watching. Enjoy your Birthday celebration!

[@NoahFroio]

Happy Birthday, Demri!!! Congrats on your family's success!!!

[@SootHead]

Boy, Ed must be one helluva nice guy! You guys aren't holding anything back on this build, labor or parts-wise.

[@jamessmelcer616]

Happy Birthday Boss Lady!! We share the same birthday, except I am 70! Hope you and the little one had respective great B-days!! I sure had a great day myself! Another great video everyone. Keep em coming and please stay safe everyone! Jim

[@Vegasoutlaw]

Tick tock as the clock count's down, each week gets closer to the finish line and you guy's are killing it. That black is going to make that GN shine 👍👍 awesome guy's

[@TheYammerHammer]

Love watching Robert before anyone else!

[@louieleon79]

Happy birthday to both of y’all. Love the humor Robby brings to this channel for everyone including the people around him to enjoy.

[@debraparsons2618]

A Very Happy And Blessed Birthday to your son AND Demri Too!🎊👦😇👸🎊 Hope it was a FUN Weekend!🥳

[@francisdelaney2228]

Happy Happy Birthday to the Boss & your Son!!!!

[@kerryoconnell5203]

Happy Birthday Demry & Adlee. Love that the whole family is part of the videos.

[@nathanielsouza312]

It was their sons birthday yesterday not Adeel’s.

[@markwarren6943]

Great Content format. Love the fast-paced action. Always entertaining while getting the work done. You guys are the best. If I could subscribe twice, I would.

[@aliceevans3357]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! To Mrs. Layton and your son! 🎉🎂 Have a great year full of many blessings and adventures!! ❤❤

[@mohanc2010]

Happy Birthday to the “Boss”! And you guys deserve more subscribers! Love You guys and how you guys working together as a team!!

[@yveslegh]

Happy birthday! Need a roll cage for the golden nugget!

[@CarswithNash]

Glad that grill worked out so nicely.

[@markdavis823]

Love the new “old guy”. I want more Earnie. He seems very knowledgeable

[@dirtybird437]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEMRY!! Hope your day is an amazing one! I love seeing you, Adlee, and your son in the videos.

[@robbashore6797]

Happy birthday to both of you 😁

[@SummerRoseRacing]

Happy birthday Demri and Bray!! :) --- Really enjoyed the video and seeing how you all are working on the Nugget to make it as nice as possible! :)

[@wendellhanks2490]

P0

[@markohnemus5159]

I do not understand how you keep track of where all the parts and pieces go. I’m truly amazed !!!!