Robert Greene on Stoicism and Being Comfortable With Uncertainty

In anticipation of their upcoming live discussion series, Ryan and Robert sat down to discuss where their ideas and interests converge. This casual conversation is a small offering of the type of discourse that they will be presenting in their discussion series: Strategy And Philosophy For Turbulent Times in Los Angeles on September 19, and Seattle on September 21. There are a limited number of VIP meet-and-greet tickets available, so grab yours before they sell out!
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[@H3XED_OwO]

“Smart people learn from everything and everyone, average people from their experiences, stupid people already have the answers.” - socrates

[@joshsanchez9793]

We need more robert greene and ryan

[@FocusBeDrifting]

would be a great podcast duo

[@Brandorumdesign]

the best duo ever

[@xrvgamers1189]

Yes, yes, yes

[@enescohuntejr]

(NOTAD)-Not to be a dick but it’s Robert* No harm gang.

[@di55olve]

You know it’s a good video when you see these 2 together

[@raginald7mars408]

horrible self pro Motion of cultists

[@devonrumpel]

No greater thrill than hearing Ryan and Robert have a conversation while they both have books in the works. Love all the bts details Robert and Ryan offer. Helpful and fascinating.

[@logandaniel3742]

The wind chimes are a great touch here 😌

[@mariamoro4770]

Both of you are very lucky to be friends and be able to share your wisdom thoughts with each other & of course with your viewers.

[@martingoldfire]

My life advice in one sentence: Learn continuously and prepare to admit being wrong often. First thing I thought of, but I think I nailed it, unless I'm wrong🤷‍♂️

[@dm4life579]

I will only accept your advice when you admit you are wrong. Jokes aside, it's a great advice. Keeps us humble.

[@HariPrasad-ll2ps]

As you get older, it's important to be humble and realize that you don't know everything. The more you learn, the more you realize how much you don't know. This is a sign of wisdom, not weakness. It's important to be open-minded and willing to learn new things. Don't be afraid to challenge your own beliefs and opinions. The world is constantly changing, and we need to be open to new ideas in order to keep up. It's important to be self-aware and to constantly question your own ego. Ego can cloud our judgment and prevent us from learning and growing. Be mindful of your own ego and strive to be humble. It's important to be patient and to take your time with things. Don't rush into things and don't expect to become an expert overnight. It takes time and effort to learn and grow. It's important to have a growth mindset and to always be striving to improve yourself. Don't be content with where you are. Always be looking for ways to improve yourself and become the best version of yourself.

[@McBain2024]

Disicipline is the best selling book because it’s the one thing that we all lack. Que Jocko, Goggins.

[@SadorRecaps]

“Don’t let the force of an impression when it first hits you knock you off your feet; just say to it, “Hold on a moment; let me see who you are and what you represent. Let me put you to the test.” ~ Epictetus”

[@kimbitazen]

Every time I’m doubting myself, lacking discipline or stillness you guys come with a new video. You guys aren’t aware but you are my mentors! 🙌🏽 My life changed drastically since I started the embodiment of my philosophy. You are great guides!

[@clemente1506]

Ryan, it's great to see you and Robert together again. The first thing I thought was "The band is back." My best to you and Robert, and keep up the good work.

[@getstarted7168]

Gotta say, it's interesting how the dynamic of "mentor-mentee" changes over time (thinking of Ryan and Robert). Like equals now, with relevant knowledge to share with each other, and us.

[@leighwilsonartist]

It’s like a head on top of a head, that is a great analogy for overthinking…Love it!

[@gustavolorusso901]

Two of the ten more influential authors of these decades.🙏

[@I_Thought_You_Had_It]

This candid style conversation is awesome

[@nerd26373]

We will always support this channel. They have the greatest insights.

[@jafaralnwiser1769]

I love robert greene he is a mentor of so many people by his amazing books

[@user-ex4py2zo5w]

But never living his own laws.

[@OutsidewithDylan]

Great to see you and Robert Greene in the same room. Keep up the great content pal 👍

[@rodrigodiaz9472]

Long live Robert Greene

[@PaigeSquared]

This chat makes me want to write a book. Love the chimes ❤

[@FTW_666]

Thank you both.

[@TheToxicgamer1000]

I cant wait to meet you guys on the 19th you changed my life Robert

[@adell5675]

The ego is the enemy but we have to keep our enemies close. And the ego is the one we need to keep the closest to us during our time on this earth. Our biggest eye opening lessons come from our ego at times.

[@TheBrandongreen33]

Ryan, Robert - Thank you for the organic masterclass in writing.

[@justineambrad5595]

I most loved if the talk is RAW. Just like this one. Very insightful conversation. Thanks for this one. ❤

[@Excogitationn]

My favorite type of videos! Keep it up Ryan!

[@mariamoro4770]

Both of you are great in my view, thank you for sharing

[@classycanadian]

Love the background chimes. It really sets up the mood of the conversation.

[@logandaniel3742]

What a good convo, there can be so much fluff between two people talking sometime. Robert is direct.

[@user-bf9jo1gh2b]

You are amazing, guys !!! Can’t wait to see you!!!

[@getstarted7168]

Stoicism is not the only answer -- but is a great one. George Box said, "All models are wrong, but some are useful." Should apply to life -- finding the "Best Models", especially "custom builds" 😍✨️

[@andyalam5074]

You two need to write a book about master and apprentice That would be perfect

[@user-ex4py2zo5w]

But Robert Bedevils Russia. How about this and the law of empathy?

[@janellentim]

My biggest takeaway from this conversation is that in order to be a good leader you have to have discipline. How can you have power over others when you don’t have power over yourself?

[@DJJoeySantos]

The chimes are such a lovely bonus to this wonderful conversation

[@TheLittleLadyCook]

A lovely duet ❤

[@CoachDomCosta]

Dude! Respect! I have two tickets in the third row and can’t wait! Stay healthy fellas!

[@lloydcorpus2932]

Wait whaaat??? Two of my mentors in 1 video??? 1 word: "EPIC"

[@gracefitzgerald2227]

Yay! You both look great, would love to see this more often.

[@piolin23iq]

Always thought about Robert Green’s philosophy as an anti-dark from the dark triad so to speak. And it would somehow corrupt my soul in some way. fast forward ten years later seeing these two philosophies play along and working together is sort of a great eye opener and humility..

[@rockysingh2200]

I am currently reading laws of human nature. Would you recommend me 48 powers of law and art of seduction?

[@piolin23iq]

@@rockysingh2200 Yeah.. I would strongly recommend it and be extremely open minded.. analyze everything and use these knowledge to the betterment of yourself.. especially with humility..

[@Natasha_Nisha]

I would imagine the level of growth and stoicism one would need built up to not be affected by the more darker persons, like humility and knowing of thyself and your true inner strength vs power

[@zachj210tx]

Very insightful conversation. Thanks for this!

[@bubblebath2892]

I love the weather up there

[@KhalilKathrada]

This is so cool. I'm certain this is what Plato sounded like talking to one of his students❤

[@wanderer5200]

I love the sound of the wind chimes int he background.

[@700Level23]

Please come to Florida! I would love to see you guys!! Thank you!

[@4152008085]

I sadly had tickets for the San Francisco show earlier in the year where Robert canceled because of illness. Wish you would make another stop in the bay area. This was a fantastic video. Thank you.

[@Mturann]

We need you man both of you

[@Y3astInf3ction]

I LIKE THE NEW MUSIC IT HAS A GOOD VIBE

[@user-uw7lu2sp5n]

also i hear the wind chimes you have. It's beautiful i have one too

[@johnnymacLA]

Okay, I admit it: this makes me want to go to the LA talk in September! Well done, gents!

[@Notarealusersname]

Discipline is Destiny is also your best work so far, at least of the three I've read.

[@aaronwimberleymbamsf5776]

I love this idea of continual improvement and self work. The Japanese have a few philosophies that incorporate these ideas. One is adopting a "Waabi Saabi" mentality which is to embrace the perfection of imperfection, and "Kaizen", which is a continual improvement of self mastery. Wheeler's quote is actually a mantra that I tell myself on a daily basis, the full quote reads, "We live on an island surrounded by a sea of ignorance. As our island of knowledge grows, so does the shore of our ignorance." The zen metaphor is great, I think most hinduism and buddhist practitioners call those paradoxes that keep our minds stimulated "Koans". Kurt Vonnegut in his novel describes a couple that makes up a "Karass" & "Duprass" and they mentally play together using a language of "koans".

[@kimbitazen]

Ryan!!! Please interview David Goggins!!!

[@Steelewater]

oooo, yes! this would be amazing! I just finished Davids first book.

[@kimbitazen]

He published a second one, I haven't read it tho. @@Steelewater

[@damonm4156]

I think Robert is a minimalist he wears the same clothes every interview love it

[@Bluefishfarm1]

great convo

[@greatestfinds5430]

Can’t wait for the value in this ❤

[@jameskeating4719]

ABSOLUTLY

[@gives_bad_advice]

maybe I'll watch the rest of this some day when i have a lot of power and everyone is telling me his great i am

[@user-uw7lu2sp5n]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1313">21:53</a> you guys are best friends 😄

[@lukeclaydon6670]

Good stuff

[@Monamaha110]

Well, everyone is not that lucky to get the right mentor at the right time.

[@sahawndada]

Sick collab

[@user-uw7lu2sp5n]

Nice guys

[@RiggsMcCoys]

📌Thanks for the video,investment is the key,you can be rich like these millionaires by investing especially in crypto trading currencies

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The rich stay rich by spending like the poor and and investing ,then the poor stay poor by spending like the rich yet not investing.Bitcoin is the future, investing in it now will be wisest decision to do especially with the current rate.

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I began investment with £500 with Rachel last month I had some doubts about her before I got my first payment of £4,570.. I love her

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My first investment with her gave me profit of over £30k,and ever since then she has never failed to deliver and I can say she's the best I've known

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please how do I convey out to her my income stream is low please 🥺🙏🙏I desperately need her assistance ,I have heard her success stories not only on KZbin

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[@aaronogden9900]

I remember early in my stoic journey thinking it sounded like such a chore to have to be always practicing and thinking these things, I then realised your mind puts in all that effort anyway but it will be a bit of a d*ck if you don't take command of it and now it feels like something I'd be insane not to sustain and improve upon. I presumed the near constant depression and anxiety that led me to my 30s was just how I was but Epictetus, Seneca, Zeno, Marcus Aurelius and Ryan Holiday proved me wrong.

[@ScotttheCyborg]

My wife and others are sometimes annoyed when I refer to decision trees and probability paths. Every possible decision has infinite branches, and when we make a decision, we cut off all of the other branches. Probability paths are the likelihood of events that affect us. There is a tiny non-zero chance we could get hit with a meteor. On the other hand, while we cannot control what happens to us, we can control our behavior in ways that direct our life path down avenues that increase the probability of preferred results. Not walking in the street substantially decreases the chance of getting hit by a car. Choosing a salad over a candy bar increases the likelihood of a healthy heart. We can affect the probability of results through the proper use of a decision tree mentality. Life is improbable to begin with - remember, your sperm was the winner! So you've already had a good start in the probability path. Don't make the sacrifice of all the other sperm a waste by not preparing yourself to make good decisions decisions.

[@aanchaallllllll]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="0">0:00</a>: 🧠 The ability to step back and assess one's connection to reality is crucial when in a position of power. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="335">5:35</a>: 📚 The speaker discusses the process of building up enemies and paranoia, as well as the trend of their books getting longer over time. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="655">10:55</a>: 📚 Writing is a profession that can be mastered and improved with age, unlike many other domains. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="939">15:39</a>: 🕰 Taking time and space to reflect and revise is important in the creative process. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1203">20:03</a>: 📚 The speaker discusses the need for feedback and validation in the writing process, particularly when working on a book for several years. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1437">23:57</a>: 💪 The speaker discusses the upcoming live event and reflects on past experiences and encounters with power and insecurity. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1719">28:39</a>: 💡 Books are powerful tools that can fundamentally change a person's sexuality, gender, and mindset, even in prison. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1989">33:09</a>: 📚 Books have the power to free our minds from societal programming and expand our thinking. Recap by Tammy AI

[@Bluemoonjellyfishh]

-<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="2076">34:36</a> -<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1925">32:05</a> Stamps for myself 😊-<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1523">25:23</a>

[@phanos9999]

I hope to meet you guys in Hawaii one day...

[@r.9700]

Oppenheimer was in his 40s when the atomic bomb was first detonated. Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin in his 40s.

[@andergrindstudios7546]

regarding how to turn someone on to ancient philosophy.. what is the one book you'd recommend for a start? perhaps something sexy enough to hook them, but if it's the only philosophy book they ever read - what's your rec?

[@regalnutrition9117]

How do you keep humidity in control for your book store?

[@mikeaguero2875]

What up Ryan , are y'all excited for the new Napoleon movie starring Joaquin Phoenix ?

[@rafiqmalik2818]

Rayan do u keep international people in mind when writing? Sorry but recently I was reading your book “discipline is destiny “ and there are tons of stuff about American sports 🏉 ? I had to google a lot when I was reading…. Maybe something to think about it. At some point I like the overall idea but I got tired when reading 😬😬

[@torahislife]

The snipes about Putin came across as awkward - what was the point of that?

[@Andrew-lp6sl]

Sort of, create compelling Spectacles for example, the opposite of disciplined and reserved

[@jameskeating4719]

Less is more is non sense a good argument is beautiful just not violent

[@nebyeelda5862]

Hey I to tried to remember when I first meet my best friends and I couldn't.

[@MrTreybones]

Random question...What is om Robert's left hand?

[@migueladrianvalevelazquez8703]

Hey Ryan have you and Robert heard of Albert Ellis the psychologist who created rebt therapy using stoicism

[@Natasha_Nisha]

I love how Ryan stands his ground about their meeting, no lunch meet. vip not to let people plant memories in your head.. for some people this is way of getting power over you, they're always in a power struggle unbeknownst to you

[@user-rx7uh9mg4f]

You're looking to deep into it. This is a normal human thing that happens from time to time. Not everything is about power.

[@JayJay-wg5ex]

I feel like the more I am willing to say i am wrong and back track the more confident I put forward my ideas, weird

[@JayJay-wg5ex]

robert greene is great

[@Mlicensemanitoba]

Love the content this background music in a podcast is so annoying.

[@stoicepictetus833]

I guess that I shouldn't bother trying to be a master musician, as I'm in my early 50's and already set for the dog house.

[@Daneiladams555]

Why not ? I am at 51

[@chemical_28]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="932">15:32</a> earrape

[@redrum923]

can i ask why there is a podcast channel for daily stoic when you upload the episodes on this channel...?

[@fernandalaxa5089]

Also An ex burned my copy of art of seducction i am still mad to this day about that...

[@Daneiladams555]

Cmon guys , a more focused convo would be more interesting

[@Nustart999]

I wish I could find a women to have these conversations about my high school sweet heart and I were deep 10 years later I still fondly think of our connection mew gf is hard to read and the attention horse makes it difficult to let go I just want some one who challenges my thinking

[@caliimperium7817]

No physical acidity was done that day …

[@h.b.9694]

good video but why this terrible music sometimes.

[@LuzdoSol00]

I am aware of Robert books. Having said that, this conversation to me landed flat and not lively as the context. Just my opinion.

[@caspermoes6762]

Those Bells 😡

[@onelove8062]

I remember my neurotic manipulative "friend" recommending me the 48 laws and he got all suspiscious about like using them against.him and shit and that is why Robert Greene creeps me the fuck out to the max

[@dejankovacevic2854]

📋📃⏳🤠🤠🤠🎸🎸🎸🔋🔋🔋🧘🧘🧘🌌🌌

[@user-tu2nj3kd4e]

two smart souls - but <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="545">9:05</a> is so awkward

[@raindaresmusic]

Wind chimes

[@raginald7mars408]

Ryan posted on Seneca how he suffered from un bearable NOISE now Ryan mocks himself with horrible NOISE and lousy Self pro Motion $$$$$$

[@raginald7mars408]

comfortable with horrible noise...