Robert Greene & Ryan Holiday On Today's World

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[@tedalexander5263]

This is fantastic - "I start by saying that I am probably wrong...." lots to learn here. Thanks fellas!!

[@claudiaparada3300]

These talks have so much wisdom, thank you for sharing them with us 🙏✨

[@ashourinasada]

Ryan!!!! Thank you so much for this episode! Please have more of this. We don't have enough people teaching us about a broader perspective, teaching us how to question and encouraging us to seek the truth.

[@niyigenr]

Thank you, Ryan, for all the wisdom you bestow upon us. I’m in the process of becoming a parent for the first time and, bringing up a kid in this world is no longer scary after listening to all these files. Your parents did an amazing job!

[@notforeveryone575]

Very much enjoyed the conversation Wise men don't always carry wisdom

[@johnkeenan7682]

I appreciate these two. I get so much from hearing them converse. Thank you for this great content

[@MV-ch3mm]

21:30 I gifted Mastery to my little bro. He was not ready for it lmao, but at least he has it. I'm confident when he needs it, he will use it.

[@alejandromontoya8012]

Both of you Sirs. Have influenced my life in a positive way. I've read titles from both of you. Thank you, Thank You.

[@nicolej615]

Love this talk with you two! I’ve purchased every book by both of you.

[@susanclare5475]

This is brilliant, my 2 favourite authors talking to each other! Thank you for posting.

[@jenflorence]

Loved this! Please have this kind of conversation soon again!

[@iammaximus614]

Grateful for your friendship & respect for the past, that is so relevant to today’s events & times

[@makaylahollywood3677]

I love this...i miss the future dreams i imagined as a child- and my adult self with brilliant creative thinkers; i feel alone. There are still people who are not hypnotized by society- they need these talks and your books, keep writing. The talk is refreshing. Your books keep me alive and growing.

[@xvsj5833]

Excellent Starter for a fabulous day ahead ❤️ Thank you for sharing Ryan

[@j.mcleod5013]

Amazing topics and love how we must question everything mainly our perspective. Let’s keep growing and learning to be students of life.

[@HenryHale]

When I was growing up in the ‘60s, the conversations that Ryan and Mr. Greene have today were commonplace. Now, disappointingly, they seem like outliers. Training the mind to THINK, not talk, has given way to cognitive dissonance and, let’s be honest, willful ignorance. When these two talk, I feel as if I’m on that famous “porch”, 2,000 years ago, soaking up the knowledge of that day’s intellects. It is so much more refreshing than hearing our so-called leaders lie to their constituents about a medical issue they have no training to discuss.

[@S4MBONE]

Its a cycle of history. Times get tough, makes people creative and wise. Good times make people soft and ungrateful so therefore ignorant and arrogant, which is willfull ignorance. The cycle repeats, so dont be a part of it.

[@CheezusRiced06]

@@S4MBONE hard times create hard men Hard men create easy times Easy times create easy men Easy men create hard times

[@camaslindbeck1985]

@@CheezusRiced06 never heard this one before, so true

[@dinomiles7999]

It's called EVOLUTION. You don't have to like or agree with change .. . It's going to evolve without you . Besides, what's the alternative? NO PROGRESS , FREEZ TIME ? .... EYES MIND HEART AND SOUL WIDE OPEN NO FEAR...

[@ozzy_millo_moss]

Masks make people sick, proven in court

[@hendalessa6405]

My best best best authors 😍😍 Your interviews with the great Robert Greene. ❤️❤️

[@alejandrobarquero1347]

What an amazing conversation. Thanks for this content.

[@aaronwimberleymbamsf5776]

Two great minds- Robert Greene and Ryan Holiday. Great way to start the day.

[@VaynerSpeakers]

🙌

[@johnmcandrew852]

Great, wide-ranging conversation, thank you!

[@drpt26]

Such a powerful conversation

[@anitaelghandor7295]

Enjoyed the show very much,thank you😁

[@arriane.a]

Kind of people I wanna talk and listen to while drinking coffee every afternoon at my patio.

[@SC-fk9nc]

Great conversation, thanks!

[@kriskanapo9282]

The Daily Stoic has become a regular addition to my viewing recently. It would be interesting for Ryan Holiday and Robert Greene, to do a video in 2 or 3 years time looking at their mask and coronavirus comments.

[@mamunurrashid5652]

Great talk

[@johnmcandrew852]

Didn't know about Navalny's videos. Great conversation start to finish, thank you!

[@NotANumber637]

Love this!😄

[@mustaphaboucetta3843]

@Daily Stoic please next time bring Jordan B Peterson

[@brianmolloy9393]

@Daily Stoic, I think you uploaded this exact chat a week ago? I've had it open a while and have been working my way through it. :) Thanks for sharing either way! Im hoping there is a new one. Brian

[@bettermanchannel770]

Reclaimg virtues of honorable living

[@xburgos1]

Can we re do this podcast with the most current info,action about the pandemic and the medical facts That workday be very stoic and hard for both of you

[@degon344]

Great video

[@lapipesmoker3751]

Thank you for sharing this conversation. One thing that struck me was Greene's assertion that we are "emotion-based"(10:00). It's my understanding that the stoics believe our essential nature is irrational one, and I'm surprised Ryan didn't challenge him on that idea If in fact his friend is a Stoic. Perhaps it's just a minor point, but I think what we believe foundationally about whether or not we are at our nature irrational or rational is important. And I'm not sure it's an either or proposition.

[@thescream1868]

awesome video...two very intelligent and influential dudes. This is such precious info thanks for sharing...by the way...up the irons!

[@CRoman-lh2so]

Would love to hear you guys revisit this given what's transpired since.

[@patrickrutledge8141]

Ya, what about vaccine mandates, is that just another silver bullet

[@williamhauser3686]

@@patrickrutledge8141 businesses have every right to demand that their employees be vaccinated, nobody is infringing on your freedom.

[@formisfunction1861]

Robert Green is a fugging genius!

[@truenorthaffirmations7049]

Make it our desire to progress society individually

[@jameskulevich8907]

One point of this conversation is watching two men stroke each other’s ego off...

[@nicholasnoriega1205]

I guess you would expect a comment like this coming from someone with a picture like yours.

[@BangTaoBeach]

The word winner is: Narrative.

[@caseygiglio3373]

11:48. That, right there, is possibly the single most important reason to read.

[@mohammedchang]

Hi! Which Robert Greene book is best to get first? Maybe a big question, but I know nothing.

[@keepcreationprocess]

They know eachother for soo long.

[@theresewalters1696]

I love how he incorporates history into his work. Perspective is so needed. True, no one thinks in metaphors any more. Right. My granddaughter thinks the pandemic was the most horrible thing. I try to tell her it's nothing like the real ones that happened in the past like the plague or Spanish flu. My father was in the Army during WWII. People don't know it because it is so distant from their experience which isn't much when you're 18. I remember being 18 and it seemed so far from my reality. But having lived several more decades, I realize how much a couple decades changes and yet it's not so far removed from myself. Why our generations don't seem to pass on their experience boggles my mind. It's like if you don't seek out a book on your own the present seems light-years away. The present generations are not living in reality. Everything is magical thinking. No one wants to grow up. Scarry times. Logical thinking is out the window.

[@alleluiaenoch4299]

Does anyone know what song was playing at the beginning?

[@migueladrianvalevelazquez8703]

What type of books should Robert Greene recomend

[@karenjohnston9201]

Agree with your idea, Ryan, of another story. Would very much like to send a letter to you about this. Is there an address which can be used where you might eventually see it? It seems am not finding the right door yet to connecting to you…am in California. Thank you.

[@devlincahillgarcia7869]

Does anyone know the name of the Franklin Roosevelt biography that Robert Greene mentioned?

[@djw8591]

The Lion and the Fox by James MacGregor Burns

[@pinnacleroofing9841]

Speaking of cognitive dissonance, you mentioned the differing sides of the political spectrum, how does one determine that it is not they themselves suffering from cognitive dissonance. People are all so sure of themselves, and so sure that it is the other people who aren't seeing correctly.

[@ryanbost3353]

I agree with your point. These two are talking with no consideration that they also might be stupid.

[@williamhauser3686]

I wonder this about myself all the time. Glad to see I'm not the only one. I wish you the best in all you do

[@TehKarmalizer]

That’s the worst kept secret. We’re all stupid.

[@italiancapo7]

The war on terror and the lives lost were not lost in vain. It showed the world the USA was going to hold terrorism and those who harbor them accountable.

[@jorgepablos1291]

Does anyone know or understand what is the title of the book about Churchill Robert recommends on 51:32?

[@Andrew-wd3hv]

Bodyguard of Lies

[@jorgepablos1291]

@@Andrew-wd3hv Thank you!

[@VincentFink]

28:00 I was also noticing the tone of Greene's voice. If you listen to his cadence, you can tell, its just like Bill Gates, its this very "I'm so much more logical than most of the world, here let me impart my infinite wisdom upon you plebs; I will say I know about science and being objective yet I am spouting completely nonobjective thoughts as truth."

[@AdrianThonyNava]

What was said in the cut windows on edition?

[@AdrianThonyNava]

I had the impression they expanded ideas we are not ready for 🤣

[@italiancapo7]

Mastery is the only Robert Greene book I haven’t read 🤔

[@monish773]

Mastery book change my life. I'm sure you will too. I find Mastery and 50th law is totally different from his other books. And The Law of Human Nature is the modern bible to me. I see my own reflection after reading this books. Robert help me understand who am I? My own character and the others as well...

[@rubayetarefin5631]

@31.05 “A leader is a dealer in hope” - Napoleon

[@ma.isabelpahilan4791]

man, this talk has given us so much wisdom. adoration from Philippines. 8/25/2021

[@David53D]

We drive the same cars , eat the same food, live in the same houses, eat in the same restaurants, watch the same tv stuff, travel the same roads, I could go on and on on how we are united.

[@churchgest]

49:12 best part

[@freedomworks3976]

Robert Greene - I want a professional politian to tell me nice soft gentle words to make me feel comfortable

[@ethan3942]

Gross ..I hope he didn’t say that

[@romischegeschichte3561]

He implied it. I was kind of shocked of how arrogantly blind such a man can be

[@fluntimes]

He was not speaking about him per se, but about the natural human tendency to want a messaged that is packaged in a way that makes the most impact. Telling struggling people that the country is fine and great doesn't really wash.

[@AnyDayOnTheWater]

The funniest part of this video is that they start by talking about how when you are “in a cult” you lack insight that you are in a cult, then they spend a good chunk of time discussing things from a very US centric perspective lol

[@Skullcrusher2131]

Totally agree

[@stillon7280]

Nailed it

[@IconicGreenandRetired]

Because only we matter in the end lol That's why you're watching Americans speak for an hr. USA 🇺🇸

[@jayebejer7431]

Well they are both American.. so naturally yes.

[@yourneologism]

Was the title, "Making Sense of Our Times"? Hmmm. I am beginning to SEE that Stoicism just got radicalized.

[@erikesenaliev9843]

Stoicism has turned into another hipster money slogan. Ego is their enemy. Haha

[@michellejoyner8602]

Ryan Holiday and Robert Greene? WOW! Also I had no idea how HOT Ryan Holiday is, dang!

[@jacksonvaughn3571]

I wish Ryan was as hard on the left as he is on the right.

[@rickjomomma7250]

its clear that you two have your own biases politically

[@williamhauser3686]

Yes, they do, centrist.

[@formisfunction1861]

LOL! I like how he punks out Tony Robbins and his type.

[@glucosepappy9663]

He didn’t really punk out Robbins. He just said that his information was packaged in a digestible way for the modern person. Just because he didn’t remember his name doesn’t mean he was trying to big dick him

[@craigcastanet7960]

the first principle is don't fool yourself. and you are the easiest person to fool. richard feynman.

[@KC-si8jn]

The main Cryto coins are not ponzy schemes, it a new technology that Robert doesn't fully understand or not an expert on. But it does present many opportunities for ponzy scheme since it's also largely unregulated. What about the millionaires who cant access their bitcoin from years ago when it was worth nothing and they forgot about it? But now they're are kicking themselves about it.

[@WhiteBraveheart1]

These guys are brilliant fools....they have no answers to original sin, that's the problem they are trying to solve. That's what trips them up.

[@aideenmoroney1571]

Bitcoin is a decentralized currency, not a ponzi scheme. I'm not literally or figuratively invested in cryptocurrency but if you're going to espouse nuance and be against black and white thinking don't comment on things you don't understand. I sincerely doubt he knows much about it now, yet he's able to make such bold statements

[@KC-si8jn]

Even Elon thought it was BS but he's changed his mind it seems now. Even Buffet and Munger thought it was BS, lol .Crypto is part of the future wether people like it or not, especially the older generations.

[@romischegeschichte3561]

Cut him some slack. He’s a leftist, when something lowers government control he will go into hysteria mode. It’s programming

[@AnnaMishel]

and if you like your plan, you can keep your pland, you’ve got to pass it to know what’s in it. GMAB! You are being conned!

[@eshanyadav9572]

These Hinduism, Buddhism and zen are actually a way of living rather than a religion,and that's the reason why Hinduism survived even though being 10000 years old,the oldest religion in the world

[@jasonsanders8091]

I like Ryan for mentioning how the war on terror was a disaster, & misleading. But why mention the war cost ahead of the 100s of thousands of Iraqi and Afghanis lives lost? What about the trade embargo on Iraq in the 90s, led by the USA, which caused 500,000 Iraqi children to die?

[@lorenzomtg9905]

You guys should understand crypto-currency and the philosophy behind it before calling it "an elaborate ponzi scheme"

[@pastexpiry2013B]

You would think Stoics would understand the concept of honest money, which is what Bitcoin is.

[@FRIDAYLXVE]

that’s not the point. there talking how these things pan out long term. based off the past, but things do change

[@ryanbost3353]

They have too much confidence that their own opinion is right, and this whole time they're basically trying to explain how "idiots" (people who disagree with them) could possibly have their ideas despite the ideas being stupid. Ryan and Robert are assuming too much that they are right and may not be wrong, ever.

[@SaturnVII]

If he was calling trump a con artist then this is pretty hilarious in hindsight lmao but good video

[@JavierBonillaC]

I read The 48 Laws and it almost made me puke. It was a long time ago but I remember it as a “win-at-any-cost” book that even condoned being shamelessly servile to your boss and telling him only what he wants to hear. Seems like all of Trump’s staff followed similar advice. Am I wrong?

[@davewolf8869]

The irony of an American taking any political side while saying America is a democracy is blinding. Proof you can be wise in some ways and an idiot in others.

[@craigcastanet7960]

these two non-experts really shouldn't opine much on covid-19, where experts don't have consensus on everything.

[@sargasso08]

using that reasoning then u shouldn't express opinions also

[@craigcastanet7960]

@@sargasso08 i didn't express an opinion on covid-19.

[@sargasso08]

@@craigcastanet7960 u still expressed an opinon. Opinions are opinions, not facts. And anyone can have opinions, even if they are "non experts".

[@francorocket9908]

Tell us Who should? The leftist philosophical guy in WHO that is not a Dr?

[@sargasso08]

@@francorocket9908 i dont understand why would you follow a "leftist philosophical guy" if you disagree with him. If you don't want to hear opinions from him then just go somewhere else, i don't know maybe to therapy or go climb a mountain. Or maybe just maybe unsub. btw i am not a leftist or a dr. i am just a guy that follows advice that makes sense to me.

[@Tyro_]

The irony in that these guys aren’t self aware enough to look at the negatives of their tribe is absolutely hilarious Great vid, but it’d be interesting if when getting into political points they’d touch on both sides, rather than just going the one way There’s certainly a cult-like mentality from every angle and to only look down on right-wing idiots and ignore the irrationally of the mainstream zeitgeist seems short sighted and dangerous

[@erikesenaliev9843]

Do not trust anyone who writes about power tactics and tells you how the world should be. Robert and Ryan are very tactical, paid influencers .

[@shivavereen7824]

This interview definitely took some points away from how I THOUGHT Greene saw things. He’s just a Californian rich liberal that writes some amazing books.

[@jayebejer7431]

Those amazing books is what made him his wealth, you must remember this. He Is also a rational liberal, not one of these new age crazy ass whackos.

[@williamhauser3686]

I didn't hear him say anything liberal.

[@Dirge_For_November]

Neat steam. Still not above putting AntiFa heads on pikes.

[@Dirge_For_November]

@@BagOCheetos Me watching 130+ days of streams where BLM and Antifa burn down buildings and cars. Pull people from their vehicle and beat them from an inch of their life. Storm into restaurants demanding fealty from the patrons and SO MUCH MORE. Not to mention following Antifa through the years. The Battle of Berkeley was where much of it started as a beginning to cure your ignorance. I mean you're not a shill right? No sir, I pay attention. Heads on pikes work.

[@odinata]

Greene is warning us about what Trump is doing to us today.

[@christopherbroaddrick7198]

The comment "Antifa never comes negates anything else that he says. One only has to look at the events in Minnesota.

[@williamhauser3686]

Would have never expected so many right wing extremists would be interested in stoicism.

[@celadon7]

No, Robert Green in the 2016 election I knew who I was voting for (Trump) and who I was voting against. Stick that in your next book.

[@dgfunds5893]

Robert Greens political biases are very clear. The examples given for cognitive disadance were Republican but he then goes on to say right left, yet missed the plank of wood in his own eye. Hows Biden working out for you? How does the gas price, inflation and shortages feel for you now? No mean tweets though to keep you warm at night. Hope it was worth it. DG

[@wcouch8]

I enjoy your channel for the stoic approach, but today's recording is filled with too much subtle political rhetoric to provide me value.

[@smatlanta1]

Ugghhhh.... no no no. I started getting into Stoicism because of you. It was finally something that took me away from the constant barrage of political banter and hate speech (on both sides). And then I listen to the two of you bashing half the country. That's fine on another channel, but if I am reading your books to learn about Stoicism (which I love!) and listening to your podcasts (which I love) why do you have to bash those of us who feel the policies of Make America Great are what we want? It seems that you are going against everything you teach. Again, I am not judging YOU... that would not be very "Stoic-like" for me to do. Judging others is not what we should do, right? Let's all "focus on sweeping our own stoop?" right?

[@williamhauser3686]

I consider myself to be center-right and subscribe to conservative beliefs, as does Ryan Holiday. I think there is a big difference between conservatism and trumpism. You're clearly a good, decent and intelligent person and I wish you the best.

[@kenseijoe666]

and why does society need to be entertained, we were all raised on Liberal TV, Film and music.

[@AnnaMishel]

what if Plandemic is right, and you are wrong?

[@DP-sh3nk]

well um we're past Nov 4th and its still killing people sooooooo

[@ilyalevin9400]

Your biases are showing

[@stonesfan1989]

Ryan claims to be a center-right Republican. I have a hard time believing that. I enjoy Ryans content non the less.

[@leedsdrumacademy]

Why is that?

[@romischegeschichte3561]

The only republican thing I ever heard of him, was when he showed his gun in a video

[@williamhauser3686]

I didn't hear him say anything leftist

[@AnnaMishel]

You’ve got the democrats and republicans reversed!

[@VincentFink]

most people do. they think the party that freed slaves decided they will be the racists now.

[@ethan3942]

It’s interesting watching all of their talks ..it’s like listening in on elites being arrogant ..thank God I’m not struggling due to COVID but lots are; it’s possible for everyone to get through this but the reality is a lot of people don’t have the mindset or the strength especially after losing work or building up rent/mortgage/cc bills; they act like there is no consequence for living in fear and it’s easy to say if you have money/a mindset that can help you through this (it’s like liberals are obsessed with the haves and the have nots, yet there own thinking/beliefs/lockdowns are widening the gap that they claim to care so much about)

[@rsatcliff]

It’s an error to go so hardcore into politics. You guys look completely delusional. Such a disappointment

[@patrickrutledge8141]

You can tell who these guys voted for!! Lol 😆 let's go Brandon!!!

[@Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA]

Alien 👽 Scull behind the old guy, can't trust this guy much, he is lost.

[@vianneydeltoro1269]

Stick to stoicism. Boy did the political bs not age well. Stick to what you know

[@kylemedeiros6907]

Robert Greene is simply not as smart as people make him out to be. The guy is in the same sort of leftist bubble that many people in the right wing bubble are in. He is just a bubble head talker masquerading as a liberated rational thinker. Still love him and love his books I read human nature twice.

[@yiprajosie085]

Thats *you* who sees people and labels what they say and do as either left or right. Its your prespective and nothing else.

[@kylemedeiros6907]

@@Ivan_Lopez2024 I'm saying Robert is susceptible to the same delusion. its obvious by his denial of Antifa. Which is a result of the entire left and MSM denial of Antifa. It's pretty ridiculous. thats just one example i got more if you need

[@calin6327]

Ryan is quite left leaning even to à big extent, but I dont blame Robert of the same at the present

[@kylemedeiros6907]

@@yiprajosie085 thats a fair point based on my comment but my use of generalization for convenience is necessary to be able to get to the point. there is a leftist bubble and a right wing bubble. thats not labeling its diagnosing.

[@kylemedeiros6907]

@@BagOCheetos you must be pretty damn left if you think Greene is a conservative. People so far on the left are an absolute disgrace. Godbless.

[@JeneeMichelle]

Interesting take on slapping labels on others... which is really bizarre for anyone who identifies as a “stoic.” To identify democrat and stoic is like round hole square peg. Strange how both of these people don’t see their own cult mentality. This was disappointing

[@erikesenaliev9843]

Absolutely! It seems stoicism became a new slogan to generate revenue. We should learn from the work these two created but be cautious and not believe everything that’s said.

[@dc9511]

I have to say your online silver products are shit. Dont buy them