Robert Greene and Ryan Holiday on the Keys to Power and Strategy

[@kellieauxier5337]

Failure is information that you can count on. A gift to the right mind.

[@GameScenes4K]

I have found my life purpose after years of deep thinking and trying many things, I have a big relief but now I have a new burden upon my shoulders, since I am working hard towards it, there are times when I feel lazy or simply don't feel like doing anything because I am tired, it's like finding my purpose took me so much time and energy that now that I found it I don't have that much energy to work towards it. xD But this is just a passing feeling, it comes and goes, what I am learning is that discipline is stronger than motivation, I must build discipline or else I fail, simple as that and yet I know this in theory but in practice I am still lazy and unmotivated, (I don't enjoy the ambient and friends that surround me). I feel alone, this feeling gives you pain in the chest. I don't even know who is going to read this, I just had some things to get out of my head and I did, so thank you stranger for reading my comment. :)

[@saconner6299]

Same here! I feel like I could've written this myself. You are not alone in feeling this way!❤️

[@johnrodriguez2438]

Congratulations on getting clarity after some time of deep thinking and trying things out. If I can comment. It almost seems that if you don't do those things you know you are supposed to do then the result me be loss of self confidence. Also, visualizing us losing to the challenge or where we'll end up if we don't do those things increases productivity x 10. Just thought I'd share. Best of luck. You got this!

[@shaman7950]

This is the natural ebb and flow of life. The awareness of these thoughts is enlightenment and it is ok. Stay the course and know that your thinking is creating the reality.

[@camerondye6108]

Just remember progress isn’t linear. Keep growing. There will be better and worse days, but keep your inner eye on that vision and (what’s more important) on the values that inform and motivate that vision. Every moment is ripe with ethical potential. Never forget that. Try to live up to your ideals every day. You will often fail, but you’ll get far further in the long run than if you hadn’t. You’ll likely never hit your ideal, but you will always be striving and stretching toward the good. That is the path of a good life.

[@brandonb.6799]

I just stumbled upon this video feeling extremely melancholic and your comment accurately described how i was feeling at the moment. Almost like i needed to read this and it came at the right time. You may be by yourself but you're not alone. Keep your eyes on the goal and try to enjoy the climb as much as possible, 'cuz believe it or not, once you reach your goal you realize that the climb was the fun part. I wish you the best of luck and i'm rooting for you!

[@TravelBits222]

I cannot get enough of listening to these two smart, profound thinkers. So refreshing to hear their knowledge and wisdom.

[@garristotle]

I see points where it looks like they might disagree and admire how they seem to consider and reflect on the other view and civilly reframe their point of view. We need more people who can model this in our community and public forums. The alternative is downgraded arguing or closing down to one-way commentary, something we have more than enough examples of.

[@eskpetri]

Knowledge yes but when it comes to covid I can't see no wisdom - only fear.

[@jenniferbate9682]

@@eskpetri maybe soon, new light will be shining on the cause of covid.

[@jameskiologwe]

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[@TrietLyCuocSongGSH]

I also have the same opinion as yours. He is so wonderful, isn't he?

[@DiegoB0525]

At 49:00 I can wholeheartedly agree with him. I also had a stroke and had to learn everything all over again. Honestly in the end, it has made me a better person. More humble and patient, amongst other things.

[@sambarryofficial]

My mind is BLOWN!!! This conversation has blown my mind. This video needs millions of views. Change the KZbin thumbnail on this! The topics spoken between you an Robert are incredible. I'm awestruck.

[@TheTexasTakebyMissVikie]

You can Not say that Marcus Aurelius Antoninus Never had these thoughts of giving up, never despaired, never became bitter, never abandoned, most likely During his struggles he thought about it all, but made the Conscious CHOICE to keep going and push through... It's a choice To Just Get up out of Bed and try AGAIN to make This Day Better. I know my life has been a Struggle since I can remember which was age 3 ~ I am now 55 Life is still a Struggle But I make a conscious EFFORT to keep going despite adversity in Hopes that This will be the day that things ARE BETTER... TODAY I WILL IMPROVE WHAT I CAN AND ENJOY WHAT EVER LITTLE THINGS I CAN WHILE I AM STILL HERE TO ENJOY THEM... AND ATTEMPT TO MAKE A POSITIVE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD ALONG THE WAY... BUT TRUST ME I HAVE HAD ALL THOSE NEVERS CROSS MY MIND AND I AM THE ONE THAT HAS TO CHOOSE TO BRUSH THOSE THOUGHTS AWAY & CONTINUE MY DAY... WITH LOVE MISS VIKIE HOWELL💘 🕊💖🕊🙏🕊💖🕊🙏🕊💖🕊🙏🕊

[@Wardamn]

I really love your work and the teachings you spread. I do believe that you're wrong about courage not being courageous because it's something that you personally don't agree with. Courage is to stand up against a large group of people who disagree with you. It doesn't matter what your opinion is on vaccines. It 100% takes courage to do what that teacher did.

[@Fatima_316]

Always a pleasure listening to you two talk. Every time, in every conversation between you two, i learn so much; different things every time. Please keep recording these conversations and uploading them

[@TrietLyCuocSongGSH]

I also have the same opinion as yours. He is so wonderful, isn't he?

[@Jay-z2x]

I love this version with so much more natural authenticity and seeming comfort of green as he opens up and they are exploring ideas in real time

[@bdesh1234]

my passion is listening to this channel on repeat and I never quiet apply most of them. This, i believe, this is the pinnacle of procrastination.

[@vernefits1953]

Pure alive time. Beautiful

[@KimikoMaui]

I find amazing in sublime daily. I'm grateful for most of my challenges

[@Henry_Sakayian]

A student and a teacher sitting together. You know how Ryan Holiday is discipline when im every interview he mentions Robert Greene. I really admire both gentlemen🌏

[@danhanks2936]

I had cancer, every month i would get chemo and a week latter i would get sick. I started to anticipate getting sick, i fought this by reminding my self to not anticipate and enjoy the good days.

[@onlyentertainmentandfun]

Always love listening to you both. I've learned a lot from 48 laws of power, thanks Robert Greene

[@TrietLyCuocSongGSH]

I also have the same opinion as yours. He is so wonderful, isn't he?

[@rudibotha3947]

Honestly I have been sleeping on your podcasts for way too long, it's just such a good listen. Beautiful work guys ☀️

[@MyOwnBluetorch]

I've not heard Robert laugh so much during an interview, so great to see

[@totadol]

I love these two .. grateful to have the chance to see them together stimulating intellectual insights

[@JaredJacobsonLaw]

Had this experience w every law school exam. Didn’t even study night before bc i knew i did what was required to give me best opportunity to succeed. Thx for reminding me 💯💯💯

[@ellengarcia4041]

These TWO are having a great RUMBLE! They are great to listen to nattering away while each pulling people of significance out of the air while blending each others narratives. Two intellectuals who are both on the same page and are able to discuss and inspire each other. No constant questioning. Just flowing along. And most importantly taking time to sit and observe a spider web.❤ Lovely.

[@robertonallin6736]

I've been waiting for this for a long time. Thanks Ryan and Robert!

[@MrBirgerB]

Ryan released podcasts with Robert in November, January and April. You didn't have to wait so long😁

[@robo3456]

on video is slight better. You have to watch & listen@@MrBirgerB

[@MarianneHMiettinen]

"[alive time] is making everything your own." That resonated with me.

[@del-marmare1646]

I am so happy I watched this. Many thanks for the post.

[@adamberry7330]

I saw Ryan on Joe Rogan, I bought Meditations on Audible and working my way through it will need a few listens no doubt. I've come to his chanel to get a jist of what Ryans about and I really find a strong affinity with his principles and those of the stoics. I've been on a path of growth for a few years now and i'm going to spend some decent time focussing on these people. Thanks Ryan and now you introduce me to Robert who is another man I find to have a great mentality, i'm keen to keep learning from you both. Thanks.

[@quantumfizzics9265]

no problem

[@brandonweemhoff9242]

Robert is clearly the master.

[@ClaringtonMusic]

I say this with great respect and appreciation: I have always thought of you (daily stoic) as a pretty zen and brilliant individual. Watching this video it has shown me how there are levels to this game, the calm and thoughtfulness of Robert Greene is next level. Brilliant conversation and it really help to put into a spectrum the levels to this game! Best and thank you! 😊🎉

[@lindabuitendag8414]

You have a right an obligation to defend yourself. Self-assertiveness: Consider and respect the rights and opinions of others while also standing up for your rights, needs and personal boundaries in a reasonable, confident, direct and CALM manner. Awesome Podcast

[@FrasiIndelebili]

can't wait to listen to this! Robert Greene is one of my favourite authors! let's go babyyy

[@Harmoneyy222]

Thank you Mr Greene 🌹 Extremely Grateful for all of your work and compassion

[@nanaasodjoa1765]

Goldmine of Material’s ( Dr Greene and Ryan ,they’re the modern Philosophers in our time. Both insightful information’s is deep profound , timeless and Priceless. Thank you both for yours ‘ Superb and Noble works’ . Stay golden stay blessed and all listening. ✌️❤️🙏⭐️

[@euanlewis5977]

wow! roberts final points were a brilliant note to end on.

[@StefaniAndino-e8k]

I cannot get enough of these two. And when they are together, it's the greatest. Please come to Chicago!

[@jaemeymatherly7598]

I didn't know Robert had a stroke. I appreciate your editing of this great conversation with a ledgend.🙌

[@dantarradellas7351]

OMG. Awesome. Two of the greatest minds today. Thank you.

[@AnneGarza-z7h]

thank you for sharing your energy and wisdom with the world. thank you for sharing your energy and wisdom with the world.

[@hemghartimagar4364]

Ryan, I stumbled across your channel before but I never really checked out your content. About a week ago, I watched a video finally and a few more. I must admit it's been a revelation and I'm grateful for your work. Thank you, look forward to learning more :)

[@ivargu]

I'm in the exact same position :)

[@hyperdrone7478]

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[@Kraftpunk1983vc]

Me too. My perspective has really changed lately. Thank you for this channel.

[@C.Hawkshaw]

Same here. I started watching DS about 3 weeks ago and my life has gotten a lot better. Also that book that you recommended “Do the work” is very helpful. Thanks Ryan

[@michaeln2044]

I was introduced to Ryan about 2 years ago through of course the Great Robert Green. Went out and bought a few of his books. I would recommend The Daily Stoic & The Obstacle is the Way.

[@karengallegos750]

WHAT! omg, too cool! Love Robert, and now Ryan! awesome find! thank you both, such great knowledge, thank you, thank you, thank you, for your books!

[@marniebrimhall986]

This conversation is incredibly powerful. Thank you both so much ❤

[@kellieauxier5337]

Wisdom comes from the time and luxury of observation. It's all right in front of us.

[@agasparotto]

Just amazing encounter!

[@sandrafrederick4923]

Thank you for this. I recently interacted (I cannot call it a discussion) with someone who teaches at Harvard. His method consists of coming at you with bits of information, along with pre-conceived notions about his audience and a chip on his shoulder. His method is more about throwing his ideas in your face and making you wrong (uneducated, ignorant, even bigoted is implied) for disagreeing with him on anything, essentially shutting down any chance of intelligent discourse. I have had pre-concieved notions of what a teacher was and I was very disappointed. I may not have learned anything from him in his field, but I have learned other things about dealing with people that suck, that perhaps he did not intend to teach.

[@emma9sachi]

Thank you! Currently reading The Daily Stoic and it is exactly what I need right now. Same thing for The 21 laws of human nature which I will need to read a second time because it is so dense. Thank you Ryan and Robert. ❤ Montreal, Canada.

[@nunusameera1523]

Legend Robert Green

[@miguelluceromendez7235]

Great talk. Eye-opening to say the least!

[@HenrySmith-wm9iz]

Wow! Thanks for sharing this ideas with us!

[@jennifromtheblock216]

I absolutely Love Robert Greene 🩷 his words have changed my life & continue to do so.

[@kchingk]

my 2 favourite authors alive today. but i guess... if you put your life into work, and if your work is words, and if words echos into eternity, then one would never die. ;) # Robert Green and Ryan Holiday is eternal!! lol

[@MaxamedMaxamed-ih5nl]

Two great authors ❤

[@Andy-B1984]

Am made up entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions. Am a constant work in progress. I will never be a saint or sage, who is lol. Stoism helps me alot, its about being the best versions of ourselves! Most will never reach real saint/sagehood if there is even such a thing. Keep the chin up and keep on trudging. Our greatest glory in life is not in never failing but in rising every time we fall 💪😎

[@TrietLyCuocSongGSH]

Very true, I really agree with your thoughts. He is so wonderful and those books help me a lot. And I'm from Vietnam and also have a KZbin channel about life philosophy. It's so happy to listen to his shared videos

[@kabel7985]

Passions are self-possessing, true love is love without expectations.

[@kabel7985]

…allowing one to be genuine without judgement, but having boundaries for self

[@scotttyler3248]

Love these guys. Just bought a couple of their books as a birthday treat. Keep doing what you do fellas ❤

[@jjut6182]

People should be ready for tragedy. A month ago my 18 year old little brother took his own life, we were home, some of us asleep already, he just walked outside and he was gone. God met him in our driveway and took him home. He knew a lot about this world when he was here, now he knows and see’s it all, I’m confident he will continue to be of help to me.

[@CC-qg6zl]

You are handling it with grace. You are doing this such a wise way, love to you, wise strong soul.

[@deliberateserendipity181]

❤

[@MsBogie25]

Thank you for this! I loved listening! I love the thought “the key to happiness is to be free of passion but full of love”. Someone already said they believe it’s because passion is more self-processing. I liked that a lot, I do know that passion was once a word to mean suffering thousands of years ago. I wonder if this is what Aurelius meant? I also wish we could have more of his work, life, and mind.

[@jenniferbate9682]

This is like the words of Jesus too. “ love one another, as I have loved you.”

[@makaylahollywood3677]

One of my favorite interviews. Only thing better- i'd be in the room;-) Thank you both!

[@jbmarsico]

thank you for sharing your energy and wisdom with the world

[@kellieauxier5337]

Now you are getting juicy. Love this. This is real talk. Lovely.

[@haliteabudureyimu638]

Hi Ryan, thanks for your amazing interview. I personally feel like that it will be better if you can turn off the background music.

[@SuperReasonabledoubt]

Inner spirited thoughts & actions can't be beat. They are God acting through you

[@NeoSoulquarian]

Great points as usual. I like the tying together of the 48 laws and stoicism. A lot of the 48 laws feel so negative to me, that it feels hard to find the relation, but it also seems that it is mostly just how unfamiliar I am with the ideas.

[@magicalmindtransformation3474]

I'm a brand new subscriber. And I'm HOOKED!!! ❤️ Thankyou for making this channel and teaching and sharing these wonderful life skills!!

[@macblah-wn3hi]

Well done that teacher she was right.

[@catcontent]

That squirrel bit, where Ryan starts at 60%, goes to 50%, and Robert catches it, was so funny. The dynamic is absolutely fascinating.

[@BastianSteffens]

wonderful talk

[@rafasiqueira223]

Just amazing duties Jesus love it

[@MundodePeliculasShow]

Immersed in the world of storytelling and video exploration lately. VideoGPT silently joined the journey, enhancing my content with its subtle yet impactful touch.

[@aaronwimberleymbamsf5776]

Great meditation to start the day=] I have all of Robert Greene's book. Agree that asymmetry of information, ethics, and control can be powerful. I met Robert Greene's son about 8 years ago at a Real Estate networking event in "the big apple" and he was touting the strategical genius of his father. Skeptic at first as everyone is when someone tout's the genius of a family member, but after going deep into all of his books like, "The Daily Laws, The 48 Laws of Power, The Laws of Hunan Nature, The Daily Laws, War, and The Art of Sed." I will say that his works all sharpen the strategic mindset of those who study him. I find one thing that I extract from stoicism on a daily basis is the need to re-create ones ethos, mythos, pathos, and logos on a daily basis.

[@117Industries]

This guy’s good.

[@jpintexas]

What you two discussed about "Thinking" that it's some how a negative thing. Which I disagree, it's thought that brings you the solution of where your thoughts take you and how you can change your thinking to bringing where you need to be. I know when I meditate I have thoughts and ideas. And they're positive and life changing.

[@avidhossanmansur9830]

Love this guy!

[@charlestyrrell4212]

I listen to you more and more. Your insights into the Stoics are helping me and for that I thank you

[@AnupmaSbhardwaj]

Amazing video ,listen to this on loop ❤❤❤thanks a lot for this conversation

[@nyc466]

Re-listening to this particular conversation helped tremendously over the last few months. The relationship between these two is just wonderful - so special obviously, but how it gets deeper throughout these long forums and what I hear as "new" each time - really keeps me coming back. Ive suffered much loss lately and; although I continue to tell myself "I made a prosperous journey after suffering shipwreck ".. @ 27 min -hearing the "The Key to happiness is to be free of passion but full of love" - From our beloved Marcus' mentor teachings prompted a comment and request. Ive always struggled with this meditation. I love Robert's natural initial response - "I'm not quite sure?!" :) I meditate on this quote often - while taking walks and I think it would be great for these two to go deeper.. What does it mean to love? What does it mean to lose love? The different forms of love - which Marcus and his mentor were thinking of in particular. If it was Greek which has 6 words for such an emotion - I feel like this need an entire discussion of dedication. When I listen to Ryan explain how he takes it - It reminds me of the "wanderers" within Norse Mythology. If you've watched the Vikings show made by the History Channel and recall a wanderer (no spoilers) who says - "You must not try to posess me. For that is not love" - you'll know exactly what I mean. Yet this is intimate love. What did Marcus and his mentor really mean? If I struggle with this, I know I cannot be alone. For what else is more important than love, when I can also find myself seeing the responses from Robert & Ryan here ('..Other passions are outward..') coincide with “Love is from another realm. We cannot manufacture it on demand. Nor can we subdue it when it appears. Love is not our choice to make.” I think society needs help defining love before understanding & engaging in it, then bifurcating it from passion. I LOVE THIS. More #amorfati

[@riffraffrichard]

I don't feel listening to music is dead time, life is so subjective. When I listen to music it has a meditative quality it gives me a reflective space and I often have insights, it helps me make decisions.

[@zincminus3793]

Bang on

[@Crusadersix6]

I just started listening and taking from it what I can without being religious about it. I'm amazed about the fear from Covid that still exists between both participants. Especially from people who didn't VAX.

[@ahsengchong6115]

thank you robert

[@8bitstriker138]

I just realised that people will in generations look back at this as an old clip of two legendary minds

[@fathersonfitness2014]

Really enjoyed this. Thank you.

[@ainsivalavie9946]

I wish I can listen this video and find finaly a way to tirn it into a turning point of my life. How many podcast, books and co feremce do I need to put all this knowledge in action and find out who I am what can I accomplish when I use all the means in my possession. Wish to all these people who follow this path a successful journey

[@Lupelifts-lm2zn]

Can someone redirect me to more videos like this. Love this perfect blend. Love to hear conversations and ideas bounce off from the stoics. Subscribed!

[@rjbeats4842]

look up this chanel impact theory, also look up stoic philosophy and audiobooks regarding these topics and you can do the deep dive

[@vbkarate]

Dr. Jordan Peterson

[@scotttaylor3334]

Ryan, excellent channel and amazing show. You have introduced me to Robert Greene, and I will be forever thankful. I am in the process of converting the exorbitant amount of dead time to which I have been accustomed, into alive time after a series of pretty devastating personal setbacks over the past few years. Your books and the books you recommend from the great stoics and other philosophers have been a huge part of that process. I just ordered the 48 Laws of Power by Robert, and I'm looking forward to receiving it. Also, I just signed up for your daily stoic life program, and I am really looking forward to digging into it. Keep up the amazing work. Also, I think when you were discussing boxing I think Robert was searching for the Marcus of Queensbury boxing rules.

[@theMAKAproject]

Great watch. Was riveted the whole time. A thought: Maybe the squirrels aren't dumb or forgetful. Maybe they leave some of the nuts they bury to grow trees for future. Perhaps they are planting them for posterity for future generations.

[@soleusmcmacsauce1431]

Damn this is just gold

[@tammys8711]

This came into my feed after listening about INFJ personality type from Myers-Briggs. Really interesting, earned a new subscriber.

[@StoicEvolution1]

Epictetus: "Don't be perturbed, for all things are according to the nature of the universal."

[@tonybocelli1754]

I was laughing about Roberts comments about loving to watch Squirrels and how joyful their life is... I saw a squirrel attacked by an incoming hawk that he narrowly avoided, the hawk swooped in and stuck, lost grip and then was actually attempting to continue chasing the squirrel up through the tree limbs to finish off the squirrel. I turned my bike around on a dime to attempt to aid the squirrel but his take flight energy served him just fine. Life for the squirrel almost came to an end, it no doubt must be prepared at all times for life's challenges, much like each of us. Stoic Warriors prepare and rise to the occasion or die trying! Embrace your journey and fuel your purpose with steadfast determination, self control and discipline.

[@timbrookscreative]

Brilliant beyond description!!!

[@radoslava7777]

Thanks ❤

[@JamesBond-ce7uk]

I love it

[@tommybahammy]

Emotions are like driving. Driving is dependant on the strength of the vehicle and the skill of the driver. Emotions are the same in that it is two things: emotional capability and emotional control. Hense someone with great emotional control can appear emotionless and yet nothing could be further from the truth.

[@sgm6603]

Thank you so much for helping me daily. 🙏

[@bunnybunny1908]

I just love this guy!

[@harmlesscreationsofthegree1248]

Extension of his arm yes, but also an extension of his will. Ultimately almost anything can be a weapon, it is your intent that transforms it from a useless object into that weapon.

[@analyserperspective]

Wow loved the podcast

[@AustinLee47]

Great content! That background music is killing me

[@joeybeargrooves4ever]

27:49 Love is not an emotion or passion, although it certainly gives rise to emotions. Emotions are fleeting. Mistaking love for an emotion explains why so many people can't make a marriage last. Love is a significant and habitual concern for the welfare of the other person. Love requires suspension of self-interest, rising above one's emotions and desires. Love is ultimately the unitive instinct of the soul outward towards the other, an impulse to return to the primal unity of being. Our emotions are biochemical experiences geared towards survival, whereas love is akin to death and may even lead an individual to choose death.

[@SuperWilkat]

I live alone with my dog. I try to take her point of view as much as I can as another living thing bearing witness to my emotions. Works every time to snap me out of whatever it is that has a grip on me.

[@nixdapogs]

The Master and Padawan

[@diannemeaddesigns]

There comes a time when you have to draw a line between empathy, compassion and understanding and when others should be held accountable and take responsibility. In my view, it would be a disservice to, and denial of Stoic principles being an enabler under the guise of conditioning to extend understanding and compassion. It can also have a disempowering effect on the individual who continually makes allowances, both self-esteem wise and from the perspective of the eyes of the culprit, come predator.

[@alexandraacreator-art]

great interview! wish the music wasn't there, hard to listen to unfortunately.

[@concertautist4474]

Big learning opportunity for these two about those wrong thinking critical thinkers who didn't want experimental gene therapy.