Rodger Waters attacks Pink Floyd's David Gilmour

[@ac81017]

Two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year.

[@Brooke52528]

Running over the same old ground!

[@ProfessorKenneth]

What have we found? The same old fears...

[@drot871]

wish thoose two were here

[@andreyk3036]

Wish you weren't in the band,Roger..you jelous a lot...KID😂😂😂😂

[@Adagios]

The lunatic is in my head.

[@sebastianholzl4668]

No, David doesn't think you're "irrelevant" to Pink Floyd's work. He just thinks that after being a bully, leaving the band, suing them and talking shit for years, he doesn't want to put up with you anymore.

[@stickman1742]

That's your low opinion of Gilmour? That's too bad. I think Gilmour has made enough money that he doesn't have to prevent Waters from being associated with the Pink Floyd name. All Floyd fans know who Roger Waters is. It's sad what business can do to people even in their final years. Is Gilmour going to put Pink Floyd on his head stone and prevent Waters from doing it? What does that solve?

[@tjlightningbolt]

Ha Ha ha! David and the others, just got sick of being depressed and putting up with your egotistical mania LSD trip (Lead Singers Disease). You wanted FULL creative control over Pink Floyd and you just mentioned 4 other people!........ At least David doesn't ruin the memory of Pink Floyd by using its catalogue of material to tear down An American president with smears slanders and insults! Especially one who stands up against the very globalists who sent YOUR father to the slaughter that you can't stop whining about! Especially to a crown of 300,000 scumbags who want to come into this country (america) to freeload and steal our resources! Jerry Garcia was right when he said playing to audiences that big "is dangerously close to fascism"! And at least he didn't ABUSE his position like you have done! Next time you wanna slander someones leader try your own fucking Queen! Who (the Queen and the Pope) absconded with 13 Mohawk children over 10 years ago from Canada, that were never seen or hear from again! BRING THE CHILDREN HOME! (which are presumed dead in a Satanic human sacrifice!) F your queen! That CUNT!

[@Asherr6]

Look at your favorite Pink Floyd songs and see who wrote them. At least that was a realization that had a few years ago.

[@sebastianholzl4668]

@@tjlightningbolt dude, you got your own problems, sort yourself out. You're not interested in a discussion about music, you wanna make a political statement, so go do that some other place, ok?

[@sebastianholzl4668]

@@stickman1742 I don't think I ever said that Gilmour tries to keep Waters from associating with the Pink Floyd brand, in case your comment is directed at me. So I'm not sure what exactly you're on about.

[@Indigloblackdog]

You left the band thinking it couldn’t exist without you. You took them to court and were paid to go away. Live with your decisions like a man.

[@travishaynes9682]

Assuming that is true , does that make it ok for the other members (Gilmoure...etc) to do the same or to act as if Waters isn't part of Floyd? Isn't that hypocrisy then ? One of the abhorrent characteristics that Floyd stood against to begin with? Two wrongs make a ....? What? Dirty laundry fued ? Come on , get over it. You're all fucking mega rich , famous , talented , heros. Smoke a fuckin j together and get on.

[@rickleblanc8900]

@@travishaynes9682 it's basically Gilmour giving Roger a taste of his own medicine. While Roger is a lyrical genius with vision, the lack of credit given to Gilmour and Wright's musical contributions, his never-ending ego-driven animosity etc etc etc makes him a complete whiny asshole. Some things never change.

[@medved4030]

Not as simple as that mate. Don't forget Wright left Pink Floyd before Waters. There was something or someone creating a toxic atmosphere in the band. I think it goes deeper than the band members themselves. Perhaps the record label or managers working with them are somehow involved? Roger Waters is a lyrical genius as his lyrics come from a deeper place and reflect on him as a person with a pure soul and integrity who cares about the planet and the future of mankind. Polly Samson cannot replace Roger Waters even though there are one or two good songs written by her and Gilmour like "High Hopes'. I have a feeling that Polly is preventing them from reuniting, kinda acting like the bands Yoko Ono in a way. Likewise David Gilmour is a brilliant musician and one of the best guitarists of all time and I cannot imagine Pink Floyd without him. It's a shame they can't resolve their dispute and reunite.

[@rickleblanc8900]

@@medved4030 Wright left Floyd cause Roger kicked him out during the Wall recordings. Strange that Gilmour and Nick allowed this to happen at all

[@kavian9620]

@@medved4030 Wright didn't leave the band, Waters kicked him out. He literaly threatened to stop The Wall from being released if Wright wasn't fired. And the reason was that Wright was going through a difficult time and was not contributing as much as he used to (which also makes it ironic because Waters now acts like he didn't need contributions from others and it was all him). These are very well known issues, Waters was difficult to wok with and was the source of tension. Bob Ezrin was the producer of the Wall, after the Wall he got invitations from both Waters and Gilmour to work on their solo albums at the same time...he chose Gilmour because according to him he was an all around nicer person to work with.

[@jordanwhisson5407]

A man who searches for world peace but can't find peace within himself

[@martynbaker9770]

Bang on the money!

[@nathanadnitt]

Literally john lennon lmao

[@donniedarko979]

Yeppers

[@drackkor725]

Roger Waters is such a SALLY. He quits the band and then cries because he's not part of it anymore.

[@pedrossirrom3412]

Possibly you need to have this kind of introverted embarrassingly obsessive personality to write an album like The Wall

[@blackpilledchad1927]

When Syd left the band, Pink Floyd kept going. When you left the band, it kept going. That's what's up, Roger. Move on

[@luciavictoria5798]

that's a really good point because no one thought about syd's leaving, i totally agree

[@grim2403]

@@luciavictoria5798 yea and when syd left he didn’t bitch and moan about how they never included him in a band he left

[@MrSlowestD16]

Yeah that's the reality. It's not that David thinks he didn't contribute anything, it's just that Waters went on to different endeavors and left, the rest of the band continued.

[@lastcamie2]

@@grim2403 it were worst... Syd got apparted by the members... Roger get appart by himself... And tha as#ole demmands he was PinkFloyd...

[@tattoodude8946]

And what's more, for Roger to say that David thinks he IS Pink Floyd is very rich coming from the man that forced the band to make The Final Cut which is the only album in Floyd history to give credit to a single member: Waters himself. Waters also fired Rick Wright after the Wall who is not on the last Floyd album featuring Waters as well. There is more I could go into with the turmoil that Waters caused while trying to control the vision of Pink Floyd the band including him suing the remaining members to stop using the name and could be argued that Waters looked at HIMSELF as Pink Floyd. Though he did apologize for the lawsuit later, it sounds to me that this "meeting" he set up was more self-serving and I noticed he said "one of the things I asked for... I suggested that..." It sounds like Roger wanted back in but still had to have a level of control over things. His former bandmate(s) knowing him probably said, " Oh no! We're not giving you a door to come in and seize control and take over like you always do Roger!"

[@the___dude]

"HE LEFT THE BAND! HE FUCKING LEFT THE BAND!" - Lars Ulrich

[@jamesluby6705]

He didn't just leave it, his intention was to destroy it, 'I am Pink Floyd and without me it doesn't exist, it can't!' Well, guess what! And some of us will never forget the way he treated Richard...

[@the3588dawn]

HAHAHAHAHAHAH

[@hombrerusode40anos72]

The difference is Jason was bullied, Roger just left

[@paulkcormier]

you couldnt pay me to listen to sheetallica they havent stole/wrote a riff since when? 1990 and that was plagarized from mustaine all of it was

[@purplewater]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Motherofcats1985]

After so many years,Waters still talks shit while Gilmour ignores him. That's fact says it all

[@someguyfromanotherplanet5284]

He replied him, and apart from this announcement Roger hardly talks about Gilmour so shut it, it's stupid to not allow a past member use a damn website named Pink Floyd, as long as that name exists he has the right, can't believe two grandfather's are bickering over nonsense that they could have resolved, this is why I like children they don't have time for malice.

[@plasticweapon]

@@someguyfromanotherplanet5284 i don't think you're some guy from another planet. i think you're roger waters.

[@someguyfromanotherplanet5284]

@@plasticweapon 😕😕😕😕what is this one saying

[@illsaythefuckiwant1867]

@@someguyfromanotherplanet5284 you shut up, no you shut up, how funny. Roger waterhead left the band.

[@beammeupbud]

@@someguyfromanotherplanet5284 you leave a band, you don't get use of it. Simple. You stupid or something?

[@marsmurderer9868]

It's crazy that The Wall is about Pink pointing the finger at everyone except himself and finally coming to terms with the fact he's the one with the problem, but Roger has never realized the same lesson applies to him

[@rbw7556]

who tf is pink

[@marsmurderer9868]

@@rbw7556 the main character of The Wall is named Pink Floyd

[@Narpets2112]

@@rbw7556 Really? Who is Pink?

[@ramin1422]

Roger Waters was the master mind of the Pink Floyed before he left. The band has lost its soul and character after him. but I respect David, Nick and Richard (RIP)

[@JacoWium]

@@Narpets2112 Pink is the central character (played by Bob Geldof) in the movie, "Pink Floyd: The Wall". I do not completely agree about the above description of the movie's central theme but yes, there is that aspect of the story that is relevant to the actual scenario of the PF band members.

[@gqnelly]

Roger could get in an argument in a room by himself. He is a brilliant songwriter and his body of work is undeniable. When you are an irritable SOB...this is what happens. Nobody wants to deal with you if they have a choice.

[@unknowntosociety01]

Yup I know from experience -signed an asshole

[@mikearchibald744]

Keep in mind that we've hardly even HEARD from Roger since Amused to Death. He was golfing apparantly and waiting to live alone, dying of cancer. Because its social media, ANY complaining is ALWAYS complaining. He wants to be on the Pink Floyd website, thats a reasonable complaint. NOT letting him on is also just as reasonable. But its US that have the problem in ramping any discussion out to the extremes. Everything on social media is black and white.

[@terrybanks5063]

@@mikearchibald744 are you forgetting he literally tried to end pink floyd years ago, thinking they couldnt be a band without him? check professor of rocks channel on youtube. its an interesting story. rogers ego is massive.

[@mikearchibald744]

@@terrybanks5063 Not forgetting at all, I've written about it. The short version is that Pink Floyd as a 'band', meaning, as a BUSINESS, was bankrupt and had no money. There were tons of business reasons for ending the band, and essentially by The Final Cut he WAS 'the band', with Rick gone and Nick barely contributing and Dave fighting him on using old music he felt wasn't good enough, but offereing nothing new. NOBODY gets that kind of wealth and fame without getting some kind of ego, that goes for the rest of hte band. But that doesn't make Rogers ego 'massive', but like most people in life, and particularly those with money, they like to have things their way. Thats ego, but its pretty typical. As I've said, I know people with virtually NO accomplishments of any kind that still have an oversized ego. Considering what Roger has done musically and charitably, I don't think thats any more massive than anybody else. Like Terry Gilliam said of Monty Python, the hardest thing about getting together is the fact they've all got control of their own little world and its hard to function as a 'team'.

[@staringcorgi6475]

That’s why he wrote the wall after he spat at a fan

[@mihalispsychedelicrealeyes1284]

Crying hungry with a loaf of bread under each arm.

[@realreally5927]

Gilmour doesn't say anything because he's a gentleman .

[@mihanshiva]

Absolutely!

[@CikisHelyzet]

Well, I hardly think that gets you very far in life.

[@realreally5927]

@@CikisHelyzet neither does whining!!!

[@CikisHelyzet]

real really... I trust transparency. Not the old guard of secrecy. Whether you agree with his position or approach, it's clear Waters hides behind nothing. Avoidance keeps this silliness alive. Hash it out, move on. The legacy is greater than the sum of its parts. Time marches on ... there will be regrets.

[@Redguard677]

Gilmor isn't saying anything because he is pumping money from Pink Floyd brand since he stole it for himself

[@bubbarhea3061]

David Gilmore kept Pink Floyd alive through the years, in my opinion

[@davedoogan6650]

Yep and they sound just like a Dave Gilmour solo album now

[@ianhames2465]

@@davedoogan6650 yes, and semi-shit

[@lobsterwhisperer7932]

the 87 album without Waters, says it all in the amateurish writing of the songs.

[@danwilliams1920]

Yeah, alive like a weekend at Bernie's.

[@c1arkj]

@@davedoogan6650 Have you heard the Final Cut Album? It's great, but it's literally Waters singing the entire time and strayed from typical musicality of the Pink Floyd sound as a band.

[@jhrodriguez08]

Gilmour alone carried Pink Floyd all the way till the end. You left the band because of your Ego and he kept playing and touring....

[@gazzo251]

not alone mate, and not because of ego. if you don't know thw reason then go and ask him !

[@RoosterRandy]

Gilmour did not "carry" Pink Floyd, if you had half a brain you'd realize it took Rogers lyrics in combined with Gilmour, Wright, and Masons playing to make the music they made

[@jhrodriguez08]

@@RoosterRandy 🖕🏿

[@jorgenandersson9521]

@@RoosterRandy I dont think so.....You can say what you want,but David Guilmore could/and still can play and sing......Waters is a good songwriter but a guy who think that he can forse people to follow his bas-guitarr:-)

[@nnjsingleguy]

Guys stop protecting Waters, he was a terrible human being. He still a prick, he was part of the band, great writer of lyrics but shitty bass player. Wright and Gilmour were the sound, especially Wright.

[@mikemcguire3676]

After Syd left Roger was all ready to take over the band and make it his own. They hired David Gilmour and assumed he would take his rightful place behind Roger as the guitarist and occasional vocalist. What poor Mr. Waters was NOT ready for was the amazing creative force and vocal talent that Gilmour ended up becoming. By the time they got to Dark Side of the Moon, Gilmour's star had arrived. All of the popular hits on Dark Side, were sung by Gilmour and his soaring guitar solos had captured the World. After the same thing happened on Wish You Were Here, Waters had had enough. He wrestled control of the band from Gilmour and produced his concept album Animals. Granted. Rodger Waters was absolutely talented. He just had no desire to play 2nd fiddle to Gilmour. He bullied and forced Richard Wright out of the band. He was a colossal dick. Gilmour is rock legend, a philanthropist, and all around good person. His guitar work is an inspiration to me, and millions around the World. Waters is an angry bassist with a grudge.

[@floydzepplin2427]

Nailed it

[@DefinityDraw]

The funny thing is that the only song in animals co sung and wrote by Gilmour is also by far the best one in the album

[@mariuszolszewski5304]

True.. Sad but true...

[@rickardnilsson2776]

@@DefinityDraw sheep?

[@DVDFHardTarget]

Could not have said it any better.

[@XiyuYang]

Roger Waters, genius songwriter, brilliant lyricist, exceptional musician, royal prick

[@cs0rpc]

Agree three of those. He's not a great musician.

[@JohnPandolfo121]

Roger doesn't and never did write any of the music that David and Richard were playing. He wrote the lyrics...that's it. Think about how absurd it would be people believing Roger Waters was telling David Gilmour how he should play the guitar. Than after you finish the thought listen to Animals full album. Till today neverminded 1977 Roger does not play the guitar except for some limited rhythm background playing and he doesn't play the piano or drums at all. David and Richard did the music writing while Roger wrote the lyrics. Simple to understand and insulting to Pink Floyd and there fans saying Roger is a great or even good musician. He's a terrible musician. His solo albums hurts my brain. There that bad. Yet David's solo albums while not Pink Floyd is mostly really good music. Some great songs too in his solo career.

[@xsm5525]

@@JohnPandolfo121 yeah but the Wall is one of the best albums of all time.

[@JohnPandolfo121]

@@xsm5525 yes and all the band members agree that most of that album was his work. His masterpiece in my eyes. Very said he killed Pink Floyd..

[@cs0rpc]

@@JohnPandolfo121 err… he did right most of the music. He may not have given them their distinct sound that was provided by Gilmour and Wright, but he still wrote a huge amount of the basic music. Just check writing credits for Animals and The Wall.

[@brandonbertollini]

Roger, you were a master lyricist in your own right. However, your continual narcissism is a huge turnoff. Just make music. Be like David and be humble.

[@barrywhite828]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

[@El_Hicks]

Roger isn't here. This channel belongs to "Liberate Art - Lana Melman".

[@DreamzCatcher23]

Narcissism is a kind of inferiority sometime.

[@Sparky_007]

I agree with Roger. Hatchets need to buried and some kind of amicable arrangement needs to be made to honor the legacy of Pink Floyd and it's contributors (Like Roger) that helped build the foundation of the band, not only post works after the fact (to which there are many notable). I would appreciate if David and Roger could get past themselves to focus on celebrating all periods of the bands existence, and allow all members some type of representation. Creative differences aside, Roger left the band, and David carried it forward. That doesn't make less of each's contributions. I wish they could get along in an unselfish way for the benefit of all fans that have supported the band for decades.

[@barrywhite828]

@@DreamzCatcher23 thats EXACTLY what it is...

[@silviolutti1522]

Dear Roger, David Gilmour was the best thing that could have happened in your life. You should just thank him. Except for jeff beck, all the guitarists you've had since you left Pink Floyd, put together aren't worth a finger from David's left hand.

[@jgcastro000]

Amen to that!

[@mohamedharak2689]

snowy white is an amazing guitarist

[@ralphiecifaretto8961]

David Gilmour would have been nothing without Roger Waters. Pink Floyd would be just another psychadelic jam band that faded away after the 60s. His solo work is unlistenable and he had to bring in 25 other songwriters to replace Waters in order to make mediocre albums.

[@rick.m5789]

@@ralphiecifaretto8961 David’s not the one attacking Roger Rogers ego is why the band could never be happy

[@Mikeyski4]

I mean, Eric Clapton though....

[@jrhaughey2481]

All the creative music you all made, every album, every song is just pure magic. You all together were a force of musical brilliance the worlds ears have never heard before. What saddens me , is to think of all the music that we as fans never got to experience because of an ego that was more important than the band. Sure, you and David both have good solo material, but just think of what the original 5 would have created in the 35 years of not getting along

[@runnersdialzero1244]

but maybe they would've started putting out total shit. shit from a dog's ass, i mean.

[@bashtherich5372]

Spot on well said!

[@MaxUgly]

It is crazy the amount of timeless beauty they did create in the time they did. Pink floyd has a mythical vibe to me. It is a band who's original writer lost his mind and the others had to take over for him. I only recently learned of this beef. As chill as the actual music is Pink Floyd might have been an untamable beast from the beginning. That much incredible music in that short of a time bends spacetime or something. It may be that it was never sustainable.

[@sharonrichards1627]

@Jr, Chances are David never would have been there if Syd had stayed.

[@ernestchadwell9069]

I read this in the style of Pink Floyd lyrics over a track belonging to DSOTM or The Wall.

[@theadamgray]

It's rather sad watching him sitting there talking about how unfair life is. He chose to leave, he thought the band would fold, when they didn't he tried to sue them to stop them using the name. Like someone leaving their spouse hoping they will crumble then seeing them later and realising they're happier than ever - he thought that their life wouldn't go on without him and this is a painful realty check that (for them) he is nothing more than an irrelevance. Let it go Roger, you have much more to give the world.

[@gregorycarlson6632]

Another beautiful analysis!! Lots of people have this Dude figured out!👍

[@colinmurphy3478]

David Gilmore wouldn't be shit without Roger's songs to sing and play on. Sorry, it's true. Sounds like your armchair analysis doges the clear point a heart, which is that Gilmore bans any mention of Roger's work on Pink Floyd's website. That is just wrong. After Syd fell apart, Roger was the main creative force and songwriter during Floyd's golden age.

[@Tazer691]

@@colinmurphy3478 No one disputes any of that. People just want Roger to move on FFS and stop whining. Its not a good look/

[@zeeqwan6477]

Speaking of leaving spouses, Rog has left 3

[@jimmylimohello2538]

💯.you decide to leave for whatever reason, move on dude 🤷🏼

[@AudioSpaceGeek]

One does start to understand why Gilmour can’t stand him.

[@lastcamie2]

What ¿?

[@MortanAMrk]

Ngl i always assumed he disliked him for the Richard Wright situation

[@edbrink7784]

I think a lot of Pink Floyd fans are also starting to dislike his character , regardless of how much talent Roger has , as a human he fails immensely .

[@joeboccaccio7935]

I cant stand him either.!!!!!...

[@tristanyoung1247]

Roger waters has lost his mind.

[@briancully2927]

Ps. I note David doesn't spend his time trashing Roger, speaks volumes

[@gabrieljardine]

@Ric Cardo and apparently he agrees

[@generalstabssjef]

Any decent man would.

[@badouplus1304]

@riccardo7581Put out of context, yeah, it sounds bad, but Polly posted her tweet after Waters' declaration, which any normal human being would not keep silent after such attacks. I will never deny Waters talents, he is a great artist, but such comments from him was not necessary. I do not envy him to live with so much resentments at his age, he still acts like a small kid in the school yards. Great as an artist, but as a human being, he sucks.

[@badouplus1304]

@riccardo7581 You are telling me that Gilmour is an establishment pro-war puppet because he is telling Ukrainians to rise up against the invaders? Tell me seriously you would not rise against any country who would invade yours. I am against war, so is Gilmour, but I would not hesitate two seconds to bare arms if someone would attack my home first. There was two kinds of French during second world war, the Nazis puppets and those who dared to rebel against Hitler. As for Waters/Gilmour feud, Waters pull the trigger first lately when there seemed to be a ceased-fire between the two, so much for an anti war activist.

[@badouplus1304]

@riccardo7581 Yeah, sure, and you use that to justify Putin's invasion and the destruction of Ukrainians' homes, Bravo!!!!. I know personally Ukrainians btw, we have, or rather, we had an office in Kyiv, and guess what are their positions relatively to that war? Oh, btw, before you say it, I neither agree with what the US government does throughout the world, but no matter what they do, I will never agree with any invaders who destroys civilians homes, no matter when they started it. You cannot even see Putin goal is to rebuild the Soviet Empire, that he is a megalomaniac.

[@anthonyvolk6185]

Coming from the guy who said pink floyd had run its course in the 80s

[@JacoWium]

Good point.

[@jazzlover10000]

He said that just before the reunion concert craze began! It was ironic.

[@gilibertopaparauchas5959]

I love how a screenshot of this video was posted on the pink floyd website wishing Rog a happy birthday, nice move Dave.

[@JohnPandolfo121]

I immediately joined that website after knowing Roger was banned.

[@JohnPandolfo121]

It’s great to see I’m not alone in my dislike of Waters. He has gone as far as saying he wrote the music for dark side. No he didn’t. Every single song on dark side was written by Richard and David. Bass players might be able to write lyrics but the guy at the time and still now barely can play a guitar and cannot play piano at all. Yet he has the balls to say he gets mad when he here’s them playing all my songs. He’s a miserable old man that lost everything including his best friends. That’ tends to happen when you sue your friends

[@ralphiecifaretto8961]

@@JohnPandolfo121 You’re 100% wrong. Roger had demos of Time and Money he brought to the rest of the band and he wrote Brain Damage almost completely by himself.

[@JohnPandolfo121]

@@ralphiecifaretto8961 Then please explain why there are videos right here on KZbin of Richard and David explaining how they both wrote the music while Roger was writing the lyrics. Are you saying there flat out lying?? Or do you believe the egomaniac that took his best friends to court ...twice. Roger didn't play the guitar except for some simple rhythm back then and still doesn't know how to play the piano. How did he write music he can't play?? Not rocket science. And yes if you want I will send you the link of both david and richard explaining how the process went.

[@ralphiecifaretto8961]

@@JohnPandolfo121 Not necessarily lying, but there’s demos on KZbin of Time and Money by Roger Waters, without the rest of the band. They added their parts after wrote the songs. Roger wrote ALL the lyrics, came up with the song structures and chord progressions, came up with most of the sound effects, and the album cover was his idea. He deserves most of the credit for that album. Or at least more than the rest of the band. I’d give him at least 50% credit, and the rest of the guys share the other 50%.

[@IAMHOPFROG]

he is the one who tried to kill the band in 1985. Rather than just leaving the band, he took them to court to stop the other members from continuing on.

[@ninjavigilante5311]

Kinda reminds me of Robbie Robertson.

[@marknease1631]

Correct. And we fans always wanted Pink Floyd to continue back then. So glad that David and Nick were persistent in keeping the band going in the late 1980s and later, despite a lawsuit/s from Rodger…and Rick becoming a full member again…

[@stickman1742]

That's silly. The other members were free to make music. Why did they need to use the name Pink Floyd? Roger didn't. I have the answer: money. The others knew if they didn't use the name Pink Floyd it would be a complete disaster. They used the name to make a financial killing. That is the one and only reason. They became exactly what Waters' lyrics railed against for years.

[@kavian9620]

@@stickman1742 lol the fuck are you talking about? band members leave bands all the time and the rest of the band continues, it's as normal as it gets in music business. Roger is just one man on an endless list of people who left their bands, but one of the very few who took the rest of the band to court to force them to quit...which by the way he has admitted to be a mistake and says he regrets doing it. I've been to his The Wall tour concert, as part of the show during the Mother he stops and talks about how "fucking misrable" he was back then, yet some people still defend him!

[@neilpeartspurplenose8739]

@@stickman1742 You could very well say that Pink Floyd ultimately became what Syd Barrett railed against, too.

[@FraggleFoot]

What a sad old man, trapped in the past. Still blaming his regrets on others. You live with the choices you make.

[@kramalerav]

Dragged down by the stone.

[@gregorycarlson6632]

You have nailed it!! Greatest way to say a lot in few words!!👍

[@fatherjimbo]

What? David is obviously more bitter about this than Roger.

[@ronbali3429]

@@kramalerav damn, Rog can be a dick, but I sure hope he doesn't become a sad old man, dying of cancer.

[@fatherjimbo]

@The Terrence Reardon Podcast Not sure that's relevant to who is more bitter about the split but you made your agenda clear.

[@edmundolanderos6085]

Well, we all know how things went after waters left Pink Floyd , but I could not imagine if Pink Floyd could survive without David .

[@ricardolopes7558]

A real Pink Floyd fan only cares for the band as a whole. We dont care about egos. For me, Roger, Dave, Nick, Rick and,Syd - by the way- and all your work is all that matters. Long live Pink Floyd

[@barrywhite828]

ABSOLUTE TRUTH, BROTHER. !

[@dommirra5429]

Yes and Pink Floyd is all five members not just one Roger...

[@rolfisdreamworld489]

that's the way it is

[@garyglaser7354]

When Sid went mad so did all the other members…………..thank you Pinky for all the great music.

[@zionstan1700]

Exactly. The Roger vs David people are cringe af

[@georgerubypoppy1063]

Give it up, Roger. You left the band, you tried to kill the name, you failed. I respect your music. I like your music. I don`t respect your actions when you left the band. Just let it go.

[@voodoodisco]

he's the genius of the PF attitude. the PF icon sound.

[@williamsherman1089]

@@voodoodisco Yeah the pf attitude with him in the band was always.....poor, poor me, while they were all raking in millions

[@captmcneil]

​@@voodoodisco Big claim. He surely got his space on 'The Wall'. However, that still wasn't enough for him somehow. For most people PF is also a bit more than that. Like Dark Side, where there was also space for Rick and Nick. To claim that they have nothing to offer just because Roger felt there was no space for anybody but himself seems a bit cynical to me.

[@colonialstraits1069]

You miss the point. Just because Roger left, he was and always will be inseparable from Pink Floyd. He made the right decision by trying to end it while they were on top. It’s weird to see so many fans who wish Pink Floyd would have followed the same embarrassing path as the Stones and so many other bands that haven’t made a decent record in three decades.

[@hrdwrd2570]

I can see why he has tried to end Pink Floyd with him leaving. He was there at the start and seems to have been the biggest creative force behind the band. He thinks his input in the project was significant enough to justify Pink Floyd ending with him. And I think it's fair, of course David was important too but the albums after The Final Cut kind of lack research and experimentation. Dave Grohl created the Foo Fighters after Kurt passed, he didn't continue with Nirvana. And judging by his political takes, Roger seems to have a very empathetic, sound and coherent worldview so I think his criticism here is not petty rambling. Is it really important for people in general? No, but I think you cannot understand what it feels to have the name of your life's work used without your implication. The music he created is what he will have left to humanity. We know he is the one who made it, but maybe he is too close to it to realize that the others keeping the name is not really a big deal.

[@pjones8404]

Oh goodness. Let it go Roger. You burned your bridges. Scorched them actually. Your contributions to the vintage Pink Floyd material is never in any danger of being lost or forgotten. You played a massive and important role in that era of the band, and I thank you for it with each repeat listen to the endless collection of songs you helped create! I don't know about anyone else, but I don't have trouble finding Roger's brilliant creative output all on my own. I don't need it linked to Pink Floyd whatsoever. You focus on you. David is focused on him and that is more than fine with me.

[@MrMallorcaboy]

but leaving rogers contribution out of pink floyds official site, is that right, is it hell, and who gave gilmour the right to decide, it should be a joint effort from the 5 band members or their estate, im with roger on this, sorry david you wernt the brains begind floyd, syd and roger were.

[@pjones8404]

@@MrMallorcaboy that is certainly one way to frame it and I can't fault your logic.

[@williamolsen20]

@@MrMallorcaboy Exactly Gilmour is a great guitar player, but he was not the creative force in that band. Their output after Roger was pretty paltry from what I can see. Roger's solo stuff was better than anything that Pink Floyd did after he left. I know that is an opinion, but what the heck.

[@rickleblanc8900]

@@williamolsen20 ya, it's the opinion of a Roger fan. But don't expect all the Floyd fans to agree with you. Can't take away from Roger's achievements in Floyd, he certainly brought huge concepts and great lyrics to the band's legendary albums, there is no doubt but to infer that Floyd sucked after he left ? Lesser bands would've folded but Gilmour kept the band going and however he managed to do it, it wasn't an easy feat to keep the flame burning to world acclaim. Roger is a genius but such a bitter man, to this day he can't let go of his everlasting disgust. No wonder David shut him out.

[@chippytea.]

Biscuits

[@douglasdejager8450]

Roger. Get over your own large ego first. David is humble and loved.

[@ol.grumpy.bastard]

Jesus...at this point, Roger ought to start a band with Ace Frehley and Peter Criss, and call themselves The Bitter Old Men. Their first album could be called "The Consequences of Our Own Actions."

[@skummelkatt]

I love that! 😂

[@jahnbon]

Perfect. Agreed.

[@66biker95]

@@geetarman I believe you totally missed the point of that post. That was some superb sarcasm if I ever heard any.

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

Classic!

[@dommirra5429]

Lmao 👍

[@experience5988]

"because he thinks he IS Pink Floyd, he OWNS Pink Floyd".... coming from Roger Waters it is super ironic.

[@colinmurphy3478]

At least Roger wrote their hits. What Pink Floyd hits did Gilmore write on his own? None. Facts

[@experience5988]

@@colinmurphy3478 The most played Floyd song ever in the USA is... Comfortably Numb. But well, PF isn´t a band of hitmakers, are they?

[@TroyPanda]

@@colinmurphy3478 But without gilmore, would u recon that pink floyd would still be as succesful as they are today?

[@television1088]

They have a lot in common. Especially ego.

[@experience5988]

@@TroyPanda For me PF is Waters/Gilmour/Wright/Mason. I don´t care what they did after The Wall. It´s all rubbish. Including The Final Cut.

[@jimlovesgina]

Yeah, but you didn't just "leave the band". You tried to end the band as if it was all you. You dragged the band into court to fight any future use of the name.

[@illegalewahrheiten2911]

You think Momentary Lapse of Reason and Divison Bell is worthy of Pink Floyd? Neither did David, he's been laying low since he made his cash in 1994.

[@ninahiatt294]

@@illegalewahrheiten2911 David has been doing anything but laying low. Have you seen Live At Pompeii???

[@StuBotNYC]

From Rolling Stone: When Waters poignantly reprised old songs like “Welcome to the Machine,” “Money” and “Another Brick in the Wall,” he wasn’t just doing the best of Floyd. Those were his songs, “the words and music of Roger Waters,” as Ladd declared at the end of an extended Floyd medley in the first half. The implication, of course, was unmistakable: anyone else out there playing these songs, claiming to be Floyd, is bogus. “I would be terribly happy for you to like what I’m doing and to like what he’s doing,” Waters said sharply the next day, referring to Gilmour, “if it wasn’t for the fact that he was calling himself Pink Floyd. He isn’t. If one of us was going to be called Pink Floyd, it’s me.” Even the old props in the current Floyd show, Waters insisted, were originally his idea. “That’s my pig up there,” he said. “That’s my plane crashing.” He snickered and added, “It’s their dry ice.” The “which one’s Pink?” debate has been a legal football kicked around by lawyers since last fall, when Waters sued Gilmour and Mason in an attempt to prevent them from using the name, claiming the group was “a spent force creatively.” (Rick Wright, who quietly left the group in 1980 after the Wall shows, has unofficially returned for the new Floyd album and tour.) Both camps, however, have now taken their cases to the people in a vindictive press war. Floyd fans are, in a sense, getting two state-of-the-art-rock shows and records - Waters’s Radio K.A.O.S., the Floyd’s Momentary Lapse of Reason - for the price of one band. But the price has been disastrously high. In their fight to determine who is the rightful heir to the Pink Floyd throne and the continuing fortune it’s worth, Waters, Gilmour and Mason have destroyed whatever personal friendship, band camaraderie and musical unity first bonded them www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/pink-floyd-the-inside-story-104505/

[@poppinmycollar423]

@@illegalewahrheiten2911 shit Division bell is my favorite of all Floyd albums and I'm almost 50. I got burnt out on the wall 25 yrs ago in high school

[@illegalewahrheiten2911]

@@poppinmycollar423 You must really like the Gilmour sound. What it lacks is the soul that Waters brought to the band. Gilmour sound, Rick Wright atmosphere, Waters the heart and soul.

[@riccipriani3623]

I can't understand how a man of your intelligence and musical genius shows such immaturity, bitterness and ignorance over something which clearly is going against you, as the public opinion shows. You were part of the greatest band ever and anyone with knowledge of Pink Floyd, knows well of your influence on the music and creation of the pieces that will last for eternity....let your bitterness go as you risk people remembering for your this rather than your genius...

[@6nosis]

Proper words

[@TheJTcreate]

Narcissisms and bullheaded are not hard to understand Ric. You come across people like that everyday. Most people at least have that one family member who thinks they are always right and anyone who doesn't agree with them is an idiot (especially in politics). Makes Christmas dinners a real drama show.

[@ThaiThom]

Well said pretty much right although I don't know if Pink Floyd is truly the greatest rock band ever - they did hit on a certain something in a certain way that no one else quite did. Unfortunately Roger Waters stained my appreciation for their creative genius a long time ago and he's just gotten worse since. I don't blame David Gilmour or Nick Mason or anyone else for distancing from him. The tortured artist stereotype is nothing new and I think Waters just wants to take that stereotype and use it to define himself. He probably has bipolar disorder or something like that, which makes him absolute hell to be around despite his genius intelligence and all that.

[@SteveFletcherGuitar]

Well said!

[@TheJTcreate]

@@geetarman You mean three sides to every story. Gilmour's work is very good, but he can't write lyrics. He can compose well and he's good at condensing. But Lyrics and themes has always been his weakness. Roger can compose and write lyrics, but his weakness is that he over does it. Too much ego. Too much opinion. He doesn't condense his work well. The Wall and the Final Cut are perfect examples. They are supposed to be the same album. Gilmour and Ezrin condensed and streamlined "the Wall" and cut out a lot of fat. That fat Roger used to make "Final Cut". The most complex compositions on the Wall is where Gilmour's compositions come in. Young Lust, Comfortably Numb, Run like Hell were Gilmour compositions. Not one of those had lyrics written by Gilmour. These two may have been at bitter odds, but coincidentally, Gilmour's strengths are right in line with balancing out Roger's weakness.... And vise versa. Gilmour was right! What was cut from "The Wall" was Meh. I just can't sit through "Final Cut". Roger just can't leave "well enough" alone. Roger writes some really good stuff, but by the time I finish one of his Solo albums, I go from "this is Cool stuff" to "meh".

[@jasonpowell8832]

As a 43 year old fan who has been through a tough life it’s saddens me to know that you who made the most meaningful music and have probably made tons of money individually can’t seem to get past the petty shit I thought was reserved for us poor people who live ordinary lives.

[@johnthompson2956]

It's because they like us are ordinary men. I do agree quibbles are dumb, but humans will be humans.

[@scootar097]

Watters wears a tin foil hat..

[@copperbath]

could not agree more.

[@Jharrison6014]

I would think that with tons of money, success there would actually be ADDED human complications. This actually seems like one of the less insane ones I've heard of. Humans are all still human, even though all members of Pink Floyd came together to make some of the most awesome musics even IMAGINABLE...

[@selectedvideos6180]

That's a pretty dim statement considering Roger Waters founded Pink Floyd and brought David in years down the line.

[@amaruqlonewolf3350]

Roger: I am the band. David: Yes you got that right, you are banned.

[@nemanjastankovic4439]

And he was the band so if David was really honest about he would start his own band not use Pink Floyd name with all work done by Roger. And I'm not blind fanboy I can compose I know how harmonies work and can play base and rhytam/solo guitar so it pretty obvious to me who wrote what without looking at who got credit.

[@eugenegd2112]

​@@nemanjastankovic4439 Not a fanboy, yeah... Good one!

[@nemanjastankovic4439]

@@eugenegd2112 Not really , I like Gilmour too , he's incredibly gifted guitar player but composing takes different kind of skills. It's not coincidence that it's basse players are most often composers. I can play guitar but my main instrument is basse guitar ans that is how I learned to compose.

[@eugenegd2112]

@@nemanjastankovic4439 Your main instrument but you don't know how to spell the bloody word. Yeah, sure.

[@nemanjastankovic4439]

@@eugenegd2112 Not my native language. I'm Serbian and know bit of Russian. Can you spell it without gooogle on Russian since Serbia is not big country ?

[@juanma.arabia]

I picture this, Roger. You had a girlfriend (Pink floyd) and even built a house with her. But you left her and the house,and even mistreated her. And now after some years you want your pictures to be held on the wall. You are not welcome anymore. We appreciate all your contributions for the band, by the way.

[@mikemccart8236]

can I use that in a song?

[@juanma.arabia]

@@mikemccart8236 Of course haha, let me hear it then.

[@LebSista]

Who's to say its a home with his "girlfriend"? What if it's the family home, and they are all head of the household (fathers) but they couldnt live under one roof, so Roger left, it should still be his home.

[@juanma.arabia]

@@LebSista There is a saying in spanish that goes... "El que se fue de Sevilla, perdio su Silla" "Who left Sevilla, lost his chair" Find the ryhme in the words

[@AN-filmandmusic]

Yeah but it’s his house

[@macpac22]

“He f*cking left the band!” - Lars Ulrich

[@benjaminstillaway7908]

😂

[@thiagoborges892]

I'm pretty sure he says focking hahahahahaha

[@elizabethphillips7838]

Yes, but he was still a contributing member for many years. Unless, they want to cal the website Pink Floyd after 1985 ... There are like almost 20 years of Waters life invested into something I believe he is proud to have been a part of.

[@Symphonyyofchaos]

wait no warning no second chance

[@standandeliver8376]

I've just spent about 20 minutes reading through these comments and I don't think a single one supports Roger's point of view. Wake up Roger. We respect your incredible musicianship, but you aren't included in the Pink Floyd website because you aren't part of Pink Floyd, which was your own doing. Get over it

[@piotrkarel]

I must say, this was exactly my thought. Roger burned some bridges in the past with his behaviour and attitude. Well, the consequence of that is what we can see here.

[@Hastur876]

@@piotrkarel Nobody, literally nobody, wants to hear some wanker sing songs about himself and his own feelings. We want to hear songs about us. Pink Floyd wrote songs about us, originally. They became a Waters boo-hoo wankfest with the Wall, then with the Final Cut he even decided the rest of the band was getting in his way. Whatever anyone says about post-Roger PF, the other 3 guys were brilliant in their own right and deserved to be allowed to contribute their own genius to songs.

[@christophersantiago6845]

Man, I just visited the site and for such an immersive, visually spectacular band, it looks like a shitty Geocites site from 1994.

[@NoWorldOrd3r]

​@@christophersantiago6845 Same! Just experienced Roger Waters This is not a drill in Cinci last week and it was amazing!

[@barneyrubble8255]

I absolutely share Rogers point of view. Pink Floyd is more than a legal entity owned by david gilmour. David never named the band and he wrote next to none of the lyrics, most of the chords and melodies even are rogers. So David is being a dick using the law to hoard access to pink floyd away from roger 50 years after the fact. According to bunch of lawyers pink floyd may belong to david. , but in creativity reality, where the music came into existence, pink floyds as much rogers if not more than it is davids. David should acknowledge that. Roger did make mistake letting david get legal custody of pink floyd. Roger should have stayed in until he died, and just did all his solo work, but he short sighted and underestimated davids pettiniess.

[@tonymichaels5592]

I see a millionaire complaining about a loss of a revenue stream because of a decision he now regrets from almost 40 years ago.

[@HangTimeDeluxe]

I saw Pink Floyd in concert back in the 90's. David Gilmour carried the entire show because you were not there. It was a great show, you were not missed. Sorry about your going crazy.

[@nickmcginley4570]

Best comment ever! I vote you the winner of the internet.

[@guyseabrook3735]

Waters' ego has never allowed him to appreciate or express gratitude for the privilege of collaborating with a genius among guitar players.

[@oriolfont4101]

Gilmour Also should express gratitude to play with a great song writer such waters

[@TheAntsNest]

Oriol font, Gilmore already does that so I'm not sure what plannet u live on but it's not esrth..

[@CP-nl2zb]

Dave makes great music with out roger. Roger cant make good music with anyone that is not David.

[@CP-nl2zb]

@@oriolfont4101 Roger is a one trick pony. He has not write anything worth listening to since the wall. That was 40 years ago! The only tracks on the wall or Animals that have stood the test of time are the ones Dave was involved with.

[@valebliz]

Yeah, water was, at least, a great artist but has always been an insignificant man.

[@potpie5417]

What a pitiful soul. To be at his age and to obviously not be at peace. Thanks for the music.

[@GuitarDudeXXX]

WINNER! Best comment.

[@johnboy6594]

Isn’t it pitiful indeed. This guy needs a good hard fall on his head. That might help. If it renders him Senseless it would be an improvement.

[@nomadicexplorers]

You wouldn’t understand unless you were part of something that big. Yes, his ego sucks but once you have something that big, it turned into a business

[@johnyoung8144]

@@nomadicexplorers Since when was making music and doing concerts to make money not business??

[@nomadicexplorers]

@@johnyoung8144 no one said it isn’t. A band that big becomes a brand though, and that changes things within the business

[@vicferrari89]

Is this true? "Roger not only quit Pink Floyd, he sued to try and force the rest of the band from performing as Pink Floyd, after his departure. That was a dumb move, and I’m not quite sure how Roger doesn’t understand how that permanently damaged his chances at any access to the official Pink Floyd sphere of resources". If so, is this poetic justice?

[@subrosa4792]

Yes, that’s the true story.

[@the.rico.network]

They did banned waters from their website and social media platforms! As the remaining members don’t want anything to do with waters anymore! Listen I don’t hate waters but his ego did grew as he got older and gotten out of control

[@OSUex]

What a piece of work. There's something wrong with Rodger Waters' brain.

[@OSUex]

@Mick Standing "Then" ? Did you mean "Than" ? Hey Mr Ruski then and than are 2 different words

[@OSUex]

@Mick Standing باز هم بیاید

[@ilygojo]

David Gilmour saved Pink Floyd after Syd went nuts and Roger’s singing voice sucks without David Pink Floyd would’ve been forgotten.

[@sjsj9106]

R u high ?

[@ilygojo]

@@sjsj9106 no. But I’m guessing you are.

[@seanmatthewking]

Without Roger Waters Pink Floyd would have disappeared into irrelevancy. David Gilmour’s contributions are great, but I don’t think the band works with him as the heart and driving force. You don’t like Roger Waters, and fine, but I think your feelings for him as a person are warping your feeling for him as an artist. Or maybe you just have crap opinions, who knows.

[@ProfessorKenneth]

@@ilygojo if it WASN'T for all of them there wouldn't have been no pink Floyd yeah...I like David hes a great artist..but your comment is overrated at best mate. They needed each other. If it wasn't for Syds recommendation David Gilmore wouldn't be here..... technically.🇬🇧 You Americans..lol...

[@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631]

U forget who wrote the song after syd

[@sickpuppy5604]

Roger Waters proves that money can't buy you class nor dignity. What a shallow little man.

[@beauusa11]

I agree 1000%

[@kendrickbritto8556]

Well Atleast he’s 6’5 I wish I was atleast 5’10😭

[@voodoodisco]

Nope! RW is the reason PF are iconic.

[@williamsherman1089]

Bingo!

[@colinmurphy3478]

Roger Waters is the one of the few celebrities actually fighting for freedom of the press. He has more integrity than most.

[@alain_de_frothcorn]

Writing an open letter to Ukraine's first lady in which he claims Ukraine is responsible for being invaded by Russia shows how removed from reality this man has become. Whether he believes it's true or not, the fact he wrote the letter shows his own vastly inflated sense of importance.

[@theremnants6655]

and that recent open letter to Putin as well, as if he's going to read it. Being in a widely acclaimed band 40 years ago has given him a Messiah complex. To the point where he thinks he can solve international affairs.

[@MrFreeGman]

I mean, Ukraine is responsible for being invaded by Russia. They very easily could have avoided this whole ordeal by not bombing the crap out of their Eastern regions over the past 8 years...

[@_getnoobednxgen1897]

Outside of music he is a Pathetic Man. I AM Polish, Poland was where Ukrainę is now, Russia attacked US in 1920, then wwII, enforced communism and took over the country post WW2. This Man thinks he knows everything, as a Pole, I think he is full of SHIT. Cease fire would mean Russia literally taking over, not the teritorry maybe but the politics.

[@riboid]

​@@theremnants6655he is doing more than you are to solve it.

[@theremnants6655]

@@riboid You're right. I'll write an open letter to Putin too.

[@ManicksChannel]

You didn't just leave Pink Floyd. You tried to sue them out of existence. They kept making hits while you became a Pink Floyd cover band.

[@vtv123here6]

O damn

[@williamolsen20]

Learning to fly is all I recall.

[@ManicksChannel]

@@williamolsen20 I think Take it Back also charted top 100. The big take away here though is that Waters didn't just leave Pink Floyd. He tried to end Pink Floyd. Sue them out of existence.

[@bhxxbtx]

Waters tried to prevent Gilmour and Mason from using the Pink Floyd name going forward. Waters was the member who brought the ideas to the table for the band to work on....DSOTM, WYWH, Animals, The Wall, all concepts that Waters brought to the band. These are the albums the Pink Floyd name was built upon up until the split...this was their greatest achievement. When Waters left he felt that Pink Floyd was no longer a band....and when they reformed without him, yes, he tried to stop it. He didn't try to use the Pink Floyd name, professionally he moved on to solo work. But Gilmour/Mason continued using the name, but had no ideas that could possibly match what Waters brought to the table. What came out of that legal battle was about the BUSINESS of Pink Floyd, the LABEL, the TRADEMARK. Gilmour and Mason used that name to take a different direction.....Waters didn't want to...he felt it should end. I think Gilmour/Mason led Floyd was much more about doing the covers that the fans expected, and putting out new material under that old name...they got the benefit of the Pink Floyd name. Waters a "Pink Floyd cover band'??? Really??? He covers the songs HE WROTE. He doesn't cover Pink Floyd material he was not involved in....Gilmour/Mason cover songs Waters wrote....I think you have it backwards. Now, Waters was a twat back then, and still to this day, but I think he was right. Here is a quote from him in 2013 about the matter... "I was wrong. Of course I was ... It's one of the few times that the legal profession has taught me something. Because when I went to these chaps and said, "Listen, we're broke, this isn't Pink Floyd anymore," they went, "What do you mean? That's irrelevant, it is a label and it has commercial value. You can't say it's going to cease to exist ... you obviously don't understand English jurisprudence.""

[@newagain9964]

Nah. Waters only played HIS PF songs. Gilmore and Mason played his songs the rest and new “PF material. Out of respect, they shouldn’t have used the name (aren’t they good enough to stand on their own?? I don’t blame waters for suing.

[@Sabre_Wulf1]

What a deep, sad , tragedy, that two icons from one of Great Britain's legend bands, whom have not only written, created and performed some the greatest musical moments in history, but have inspired generations to learn musical instruments and composition, have yet to put the past utterly behind them, and come together before it's too late and leave this planet to return to being stardust with their bandmates. One can only hope.

[@rj2011g]

Gilmore is so much better and has way more serious music. I was so happy when Walters left.

[@andrewedwards8238]

I' ve always loved Roger and his politics until he still is ambigeous about Putin . I' m.out .

[@penguins4ever456]

@@rj2011g who's better than who doesnt even matter because the music and legend they gave us wouldn't have happened with out ALL of them! Yes gilmour absolutely was what they needed to drive them where they went but still it wouldn't have happened with out Roger! .... David Gilmour is the most incredible, beautiful, magical guitarist period i will say that for sure! I've never heard someone play guitar in a way that makes you feel every single emotion! His guitar sings and cries and laughs and screams and orgasims lol

[@zeez9053]

Too bad Gilmore is to stupid

[@Son-Of-David1990]

Not to mention they wrote a full album about life which is what got them huge and ironically tore them apart with the egos they grew from fame. They need to take their own lyrics to heart..especially roger. Honestly from all I've studied and watched over the years, there's a reason why roger was banned. He's Honestly thebasshole in the feud. Way before he left the Floyd he was the control freak and pretty much made Dave feel like just because he came after Syd that he has no say so David took that as being spat in his face for years so yea I don't blame him for the resentment he holds on roger but roger has no right. He left and David wanted to continue. Roger's ego didn't want that and tried stopping him and lost so yea if you didn't want pink Floyd to continue then you shouldn't have any control over what Floyd is anymore. Period.

[@robinakym2356]

I feel sad for him. 35 years later and he still can’t let it go 😞

[@thesilverbrow2382]

Nah, 35 years later and he doesn't have access to, or representation on the Pink Floyd website.

[@thesilverbrow2382]

@@USALeonHeart obviously, yes. That would help. Thanks for making such an obvious reply. I'm not commenting on whether he should or shouldn't be able to use the website to promote his own material, I'm just pointing out that OP's comment is not the truth of what's going on.

[@mikewaxmann8487]

Exactly! An old grumpy man and bitter in the true sense of the word.

[@Sams911]

seems like he's trying to make peace... the others, namely Dave (whom I love and adore) aren't letting it go.

[@nicholasjohnson6724]

The Floyd did better without him anyways......

[@spacepodi]

If someone left a company 35 years ago, he doesn’t get to sit on the board of directors just because his ego dictates he should.

[@ruiteixeira6299]

yes he can, P F was him vision he was PF soul, without him PF his a cover band.

[@gregorydetroyat6905]

@@ruiteixeira6299 go tell it to Syd .....

[@garbandgulyberdimuhamedow4604]

This is exactly how it works in the real world.

[@dmlchannel3262]

In the 70s, in my then capacity as a staffer (gopher) at WZMF (Milwaukee) radio, I spent time with members of Pink Floyd, on several occasions. Waters was an ass even back then... and it seems, to this day, Waters still remains one.

[@wesrrowlands8309]

Well asses do tend to get bigger with age. 😀

[@blue_diamond_gem]

Awesome insight.

[@woodoven]

He blithely disrespects Gilmour’s family as the Von Trapps and then wonders why Gilmour wants nothing to do with him?

[@2112jonr]

I think he resents David's talent and family life. Hey, your choice Roger. You attract what you deserve in life.

[@MrSlowestD16]

I don't/didn't get the Von Trapps reference.

[@bassplayer2011ify]

@@MrSlowestD16 He could be referencing The Sound of Music or the real Von Trapp family I'm not really sure. But in this case he used it as a dig to David’s family life.

[@MrSlowestD16]

@@bassplayer2011ify Ah, I figured it was from the musical, but yeah, not quite sure. Either way, crazy thing to take a dig at somebody for.

[@ryrythefryguy4645]

all of ya are wrong. david and polly (and family) during covid lockdowns and such, would do a podcast where they would all perform and chat and whatnot. dave and polly called it the "von trapped family" after the von trapps from sound of music. and of course roger is calling them the von trapp family.

[@TheBhargavsai]

David Gilmour is an amazing amazing musician. Best thing ever happened to Pink Floyd is him.

[@clairvoyantmole8668]

100%

[@davidhowlandjr5444]

Yes! Not even an argument. The lead and tone of his guitar alone. Plus his vocals. Syd had no tone on guitar.

[@jackblakey4984]

@@davidhowlandjr5444 you owe syd respect , without him there would be nothing

[@heichou673]

@@davidhowlandjr5444 Watch your mouth boy

[@aarongonzales1350]

Gilmour and Wright makes the best songs, but Waters MADE the best songs

[@Tomingram353]

“there is no dark side of Roger Waters. As a matter of fact, he’s all dark.”

[@leighbeckett]

Roger, you left and then tried to prevent the others continuing. Thankfully they kept going but you’re still out - it’s what you wanted. Your lyrics were probably masterful but without the other three, and particularly David, I seriously doubt I and many others would have ever had the chance to hear them or even bothered to try. You’re obviously still upset but try to let it go… Remember when you were young…

[@MJTIbes]

Amen!

[@alexkx8599]

So...who owned the rights to the name of the group? How did it become Gilmour's?

[@nickmcginley4570]

@@alexkx8599 When Roger quit and walked away. It did not become anything, it was left to the three who were still in the band (Well, two and later all three of the others). If four people own something together, and one walks away and says "I do not want this anymore", that person who walks away cannot force the others to walk away from their ownership. Roger walked away. Are you able to comprehend this?

[@nickmcginley4570]

@Fab4 I do not recall any three of The Beatles wanting to continue to use the name. Are you unclear of the distinction between a decision reached by mutual consent of all parties involved, and one where three of four dispute the contention that the band is no more?

[@kiekko673]

@@nickmcginley4570 Exactly! They didn’t want to continue to use the name, because they KNEW, that there would be no Beatles without Paul. It’s not about what some judge somewhere decides. It’s not a legal matter, but something much more valuable than that. ✌️

[@douglasfrederick127]

Roger is a full on malignant narcissist. I’ve been in bands with these types for the music, it’s complete torture to be in a band with a genius like Roger. Eventually you have to cut the cord.

[@matty7dream1]

Or his throat. Though he has, of course, done that for himself. Metaphorically speaking.

[@cognitivebadweather2392]

And yet, would they have made it without? Crazy right!

[@newagain9964]

I side with roger. PF ended a long time ago.

[@chriscullen6949]

you dont know the man so thats just stupid

[@kevinbate4255]

As have I it can be like trying to communicate with a brick wall

[@phil.d-roll6393]

Regardless of the squabbles, I am just thankful for what you all did for the time you had together. Thank you.

[@eddieandrews2636]

Definitely thankful for that. It was a amazing run until they hit the wall...no pun intended ...well actually the pun was intended

[@screwyootube1]

@@eddieandrews2636 yet, when they tried to get past the wall, on the other side, they found, mediocrity.

[@worshipdoom666]

Very Tolkien of you.

[@1972BoNeZ666]

YEAH.. BUT THEY.. ( WHETHER IT BE RODGER WATERS OR DAVID GILMOUR, RESPECTFULLY? ) ARE TARNISHING THEIR LEGACY. GROW T.D. UP! & MOVE ON.. LIKE MATURE GENTLEMEN.. NSTEAD IF FUCKING HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN. ACTUALLY? ☝🏻 I TAKE THAT BACK. BECAUSE HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN.. ACTS & ARE MORE MATURE. 😤

[@1972BoNeZ666]

YEAH.. BUT THEY.. ( WHETHER IT BE RODGER WATERS OR DAVID GILMOUR, RESPECTFULLY? ) ARE TARNISHING THEIR LEGACY. GROW T.D. UP! & MOVE ON.. LIKE MATURE GENTLEMEN.. NSTEAD IF FUCKING HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN. ACTUALLY? ☝🏻 I TAKE THAT BACK. BECAUSE HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN.. ACTS & ARE MORE MATURE. 😤

[@alankelly8562]

Roger left and thought the band would fold, it actually became bigger.

[@holdencaulfield4808]

Yeah but the songwriting suffered immensely

[@sols9449]

It did not become bigger! Lol what are you even saying they had a couple good singles. Roger wrote all the songs we love all the albums we loved. I’m the biggest fan of David Gilmore and I’m not a fan of Roger but let’s call a spade a spade ROGER IS THE SONG WRITER.

[@Skibbidyboobop]

@@holdencaulfield4808 I Think Division bell has fantastic songwriting...Roger's style is unique and mostly conceptual. If you are a fan of his style that is one thing, but to say that songwriting suffered is just not true.

[@subrosa4792]

Agreed that Division Bell is a great album!

[@jazzlover10000]

True.

[@Joekary5]

It sounds kind of ridiculous hearing Roger talk about how it's fair to have "equal access" to Pink Floyd... And then proceeding to slam Gilmour for "Thinking he owns Pink Floyd" Gotta let it go man and move on. You dug your own grave in the past through your own narcissism.

[@KelticTim]

Right? He left the band, but wants an equal cut of the dough.

[@tapioaalto2656]

@@KelticTim Indeed. He gets the equal cut of what he contributed with, but what he really wants is to stop the remaining band members from making money from their work in the name of Pink Floyd. That is nothing but petty envy from Mr. Waters' part. There is a court ruling about the ownership of the band Pink Floyd, so no controversy there either. Let me quote Roger Waters when he unknowingly was describing himself with song lyrics: "Just another sad old man All alone and dying of cancer" His cancer is his bitterness.

[@voodoodisco]

RW is the genius of Pink Floyd. get over it

[@tapioaalto2656]

@@voodoodisco *was and he wasn't the only genius. And that is still too much for him to bear hence he can't get over it.

[@KelticTim]

@@voodoodisco yea, they crashed and burned the second he left.

[@HISwamo]

Poor Roger, quite the team 35 yrs ago and now he wants to play. No pudding for you today

[@Xxrocknrollgod]

Lmao

[@ArmsDealer06]

Maybe he should go watch Emily play instead.

[@edp3202]

Ouch

[@picajoool]

Not much great PF albums in those 35 years!

[@UrielX1212]

@@picajoool Not much great solo Roger Waters albums either. Imagine if they sucked in their egos and stuck it out?

[@douglaskramer1853]

It's ironically tragic how he seems to fulfil his own lyrics. He lacks the humbleness the other members had, his ego grew way too much

[@matty7dream1]

That is definitely his problem. But like all true tyrants - he doesn't see it that way...

[@eddieandrews2636]

If only he could tear down the wall, but that ego won't let him...

[@ianwalker4030]

@@eddieandrews2636 if you think about it long enough, as I have, it seems obvious; the ‘driving force ‘ of the band WAS WODGER the extrovert, whilst the other 3 members were INTROVERTS….he obviously was the ‘ideas man’ but, had he remained humble, this problem wouldn’t have arrived. He WAS the ideas man, completed by a tight trio of great musicians who, when allowed to, were able to contribute their own ideas/interpretations….once they followed his themes, they ALL had THEIR OWN INPUT & INTERPRETATION means = to his ‘vision’. I’m personally glad his court case worked against him, as like Gilmour, WRIGHT, Mason, I couldn’t believe he would be of the mind to take them to court to stop them earning a living……AFTER HE LEFT!!

[@ThatOneHippieMan]

It did grow, but he was always kind of egotistical in certain ways.

[@dinorocker8647]

Roger Waters is a F---IN' HYPOCRITE, he does these songs in the early 70's with lyrics about tryin' to come together and stand united, and havin' compassion and sympathy for each other, and after that period his true colors emerge, and he is a guy who has absolute contempt and apathy instead of compassion and sympathy for everyone who isn't like him or thinks as he does, I ain't even gonna go into his political ideals, but I'm just sayin', practice what ya preach.

[@mollyflynn8455]

David Gilmour is the main reason so many people love Pink Floyd

[@dennisscott6501]

I’d go see Gilmour without Waters. Not vice- vera.

[@Kawiboy]

With ya ✌️

[@jondebohun9194]

agree

[@joeboccaccio7935]

Spot on ..:)

[@ianmcphee5650]

I loved the work with waters involved more than the later albums but I still love a lot of tracks off them.

[@M.Robespierre3691]

Roger Waters seems to be an unpleasant,quarrelsome and narcissistic person. Just a bitter and angry old man.

[@williamsherman1089]

Ya think!

[@whatisthis__95]

Totally right!

[@terrypussypower]

He’s become one of the people they were singing about on “Animals”….

[@robertg8875]

Ego Ego Ego !!!!! It's gets old ! Every time let it go

[@groofoot]

@@terrypussypower ... yup!

[@joeldalton473]

Easy answer Rodger: YOU LEFT THE BAND!!!!

[@samueldoss9608]

He didnt leave His vision was Dark side HUGE Wish Animals Great albums The wall HUGE How do you top that You cant So why go on The Final Cut The end David knew he wouldn't be as successful without pink floyd name His solo albums prove it (All though on an island is a masterpiece) Roger wanted to let floyd go out with a bang David wanted more money Kinda ironic tho That roger made more money from delicate sound of thunder and pulse than David did 🤷‍♂️ David dosen't have a problem Using the name He didnt create Ya know Not being a founding member and all And he dosen't have a problem singing Roger's songs But has a problem Allowing him on the website 🤔

[@clairvoyantmole8668]

@@samueldoss9608 Gilmour's solo albums went gold 23 times and platinum 20 times. Waters: 19 gold and 8 platinum. Gilmour had a solo album peaking at nr. 1 in the UK. Waters never reached nr. 1 in the UK. Gilmour hit the top 10 in the US with 2 albums. Rogers: none. So: Gilmour actually was more successful than Rogers. Writing credits on Pulse: Waters - 14 tracks, Gilmour - 24 tracks I wonder how Waters could get more royalties from this than Gilmour

[@samueldoss9608]

@@clairvoyantmole8668 I didnt say they were bad Just not very good in my opinion On an island is a great album Of corse roger cant collect royalties on his solo material Nor would he want to As far the charts go People place Justin bieber and miley cyrus at the top to But that doesn't make it good Just to throw it out there Water's solo work isnt that good either (my opinion) They both have 1 good solo a piece On an island Pro's & cons

[@clairvoyantmole8668]

@@samueldoss9608 You did say _"David knew he wouldn't be as successful without pink floyd name "_ - and I just provided you with some facts. Without the name "Pink Floyd", Gilmour turned out to be more successful than Waters. And you did say: _"roger made more money from (...) pulse than David did"_ - which, looking at the writing credits, seems to be very odd.

[@samueldoss9608]

@@clairvoyantmole8668 I stand by those remarks David's solo work Isnt as successful as Pink Floyd And writing credits mean everything Look up Roger & davids net worth You will see a big difference Because of writing credits I like them both Both of there talent is undeniable But together They can conquer the world

[@C.SchitzPopinov]

It hurts when the band isn’t about you, doesn’t it? Kind of how you made the rest of the band feel when you said pink Floyd was no more because you were “breaking up the band”

[@AceMoonshot]

Seems to me that he expects everyone to dance with him in the light of his own burning bridges. And then simply cannot understand why they dare to refuse him.

[@notalexandergustafsson2496]

You’re a genius Roger, your only problem is that you can’t relate to people and that there’s something deep in your psyche that feeds off of being unhappy and making others unhappy with you

[@crispyapple6231]

Thats just being british

[@Torgo1969]

Captain Miserable, winning...NOOOOO!

[@defunctt]

couldnt agree more. his brain defaults to negativity and in some vanes he has channelled this well with his (earlier) work. some of his later stuff had the same rants but the music wasnt good enough and for me...a lot of lets say something like the final cut was unbearable to listen to. there is enough recorded rants of roger online as well that make me not doubt for one second when david and richard said large periods of the later years as a bad were simply torture.

[@aaronperdue6451]

Misery loves company...

[@sebastiangarcia4243]

It is called narcissism

[@aidyonline]

Why would the Pink Floyd website have Roger's solo work on it? Even if it's a cover of a Pink Floyd song? David Gilmour has done lots of solo projects and none of those are on the website either.

[@blankvrs]

"It's all ME! I am Pink Floyd! Those other guys? They just hung out with me, but I am Pink Floyd!"

[@slugcult1973]

Didn't Pink Floyd sing for The Boomtown Rats for awhile?

[@jimikguitar]

Not his point

[@retheisen]

... which one's Pink?

[@blankvrs]

@@retheisen Apparently, Waters thinks he is. 😄

[@baragentledragon]

Seriously man, nobody gives a fiddlers about Dave Killminster, whatever his name is, David Gilmour was the magic that made Floyd work, without him, its dead in the waters.. :)

[@EltonoutoftheclosetOfficial]

I agree with Roger’s argument. Regarding the “he left the band and therefore has no right to be on their website” comments, I’d hazard a guess that Lennon is featured on the Beatles’ site… or McCartney for that matter. Or Jeff Lynne on ELO’s. Or Sting on The Police’s. Or Townshend on The Who’s. Or Knopfler on Dire Straits’. Or Paul Simon on S&G’s. Or DLR on Van Halen’s. Roger’s logic is sound. Personal conflict between former colleagues is no basis for excluding one or more from any medium (e.g. website) that represents their collective, or individual, *professional* output.

[@zoranhorvat8284]

Love Roger's lyrics,but man, he is SO petty! He left the band, hoping to destroy Pink Floyd's name, cause of petty jealousy! And cause of his attacks, we KNOW who was and is making him feel that way! I just love how David is ignoring him!

[@nickmcginley4570]

@Terrence Reardon and Friends Podcast Podcast There are no great songs or albums with great lyrics but shitty music. There are a gazillion great songs and albums with lyrics that make no sense, have no particular deep meaning, or otherwise are nothing special. Music is mostly about the music. Music with singing is mostly about the sound of the singer's voice. Great musicians and great singers can make a hit out of reading the phone book. The lyrics and the tunes are mostly not what made any of the best rock and roll great.

[@nickmcginley4570]

@Terrence Reardon and Friends Podcast Podcast (war, my dad died, I hate these leaders, repeat) LOL! It sounds so damn pathetic when you put it like that. Even sadder because it is exactly true. It is funny BECAUSE it is true!

[@newagain9964]

Yeah. But without the lyrics, 90% of y’all (at least) wouldn’t be listening to that music.

[@nickmcginley4570]

@@newagain9964 I think it is far more likely true that without the music, far less people would have listened. Those lyrics without that music may have amounted to nothing at all. Profound lyrics do not sell records...profound music does.

[@peter9962]

@@nickmcginley4570 You are completely right. I have been saying the same thing since the time of the first Floyd album. "Great musicians and great singers can make a hit out of reading the phone book." I always wished there would have been a musician's top 40. Radio hits would have been completely different.

[@panhead55]

David was the only member through the decades to make sure Syd’s royalties and due were honored.

[@BrendanJSmith]

And ironically he knew Syd the shortest amount of time.

[@smeggerssmeghead3100]

BULLSHIT

[@sillbit]

@@BrendanJSmith Where did you get that from? David knew Syd from before PF. Syd was 16 when he and Dave got to know each other.

[@BrendanJSmith]

@@sillbit didn't Syd go to school with Roger, Richard, and Nick though?

[@sillbit]

@@BrendanJSmith Not sure. But he did meet David when starting at Cambridgeshire College in 1962. I haven't seen anything about when he met the others, but it seems it might have been in 1965 after switching to Camberwell College.

[@valkry007]

Roger Waters in Pink Floyd was awesome ! Roger Waters the person - sad and pathetic. Let it go friend.

[@JCHolland]

“OK, I’m not going to get all weird and sarcastic…“ Uhhh..too late. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@ieo8446]

>leaves the band >sues the remaining members for still using the band's name >fails >complains he's not featured on the website 🤡

[@davedoogan6650]

He wrote all the songs, why shouldn't he be mentioned on the website

[@LedZeppelin693]

Roger is guaranteed a joker.

[@ieo8446]

@@davedoogan6650 Because he betrayed and backstabbed them.

[@davedoogan6650]

@@ieo8446 He wrote all the songs He made them famous. Now he is being stabbed in the back. Yep.

[@davedoogan6650]

@The Terrence Reardon Podcast LoL absolute Bollocks

[@hrshah8260]

David Gilmour : lost his hair Roger waters : lost his voice !!!!

[@berkaysuer5257]

Never had one in the first place tbh

[@ratonman]

@@berkaysuer5257 Maybe not necessarily the best voice but his voice is the only one who could complete the wall

[@timmynator8036]

@@berkaysuer5257 dude.. "hey you" has a really impressive vocal performance

[@bimana2023]

Roger Waters: lost his brain and soul

[@sjsj9106]

@@bimana2023 why? Cuz he calls them out on their bullshit? He was the soul of PF after Syd went away , after he left they stoped being PF. He has all the rights to say whatever he wants

[@DavidLiphshitz]

Sometimes I think about the huge difference between the 2 genius musicians who were the pillars of Pink Floyd. My favorite band. So different in their personality and nature. How on earth could they even work together. How could they create this fantastic body of work . TOGETHER ??? David; good hearted, beautiful & happy person. Full of Internal harmony and tranquility. Roger; bitter, hateful, antisemitic, complex & profoundly unhappy person. If I had a choice to be a child of one of the two. You know who I would choose.

[@hafstrat]

You and Gilmour were like McCartney and Lennon. Better together. Imho.

[@notalexandergustafsson2496]

Better together and not nearly as good solo, Roger always had the angry deep lyrics, and David always had the feel for the song and could put the rest of the piece together, and when Richard was actually writing and performing it was uncanny how well they made music together.

[@johnldowning641]

At least Lennon and McCartney buried the hatchet, c'mon guys 👍

[@playbackvintagehifihunter9669]

@@johnldowning641 exactly. Nothing stands in the way of True Friendship.

[@nickvowels8239]

Hard disagree. Gilmour’s solo stuff is 🔥

[@iamthewalrus4998]

@@johnldowning641 Unfortunately that’s not gonna happen. Lennon and McCartney were childhood friends and always had a close relationship while roger waters was always the outlaw in Pink Floyd and pretty difficult to work with. I don’t think they had a deep friendship.

[@mr.c8657]

Nobody can deny the magic of Roger Waters and David Gilmour when together live on stage or in the studio. When they are solo something is always missing. The solo work is amazing but not as good if they were together.

[@steviebye1]

Agree with the fist sentence, not sure about the second!

[@dommirra5429]

And Syd, Nick, & Rick

[@johnanderson9494]

New Pink Floyd Songs were written by external writers. Gilmour was given song credits the same way Elvis Presley was given song credits for all the songs he didn't write. Any singer can demand a co-author ship or full authorship song credit in order to market the song.

[@cubbyjans]

Real it’s Richard Wright who fused the two to make the Pink Floyd sound

[@AvroBellow]

@@dommirra5429 Wish they were here...

[@scottmays8608]

You reap the harvest you have sown. You severed those relationships.

[@BaddaBigBoom]

..dragged down by the stone? ;-)

[@alamo11]

Exactly ! But even Dogs have improved in nature nowadays

[@eurowalker]

@@citizennobody5518 they are hes songs but he did wanted to bury those songs for a looong time, he literally harvested these whole situation

[@eurowalker]

@@citizennobody5518 there is ego everywhere here, but I think we all remember how Rogers just tried to finish everything when he left making everyones life impossible, ofc when you have this kind of Fame and stuff ego is all around

[@hafstrat]

Just another sad old man, all alone ......

[@DogeCointube]

This is just sad. He's got fame, money, talent...and decades later he still just sits around bitching. How'd someone get so old and not learn to grow up? One of the biggest life lessons, Roger, is that you can't blame someone else for your own choices. No matter how much money you have.

[@lastcamie2]

im agree

[@maryr8627]

Talk about destructive elephants in the room. He was clueless 2 yrs ago about who that was, clueless about the destructive force in the band, and probably still is clueless, even though today we have to worry about an elephant starting a nuclear war over greed. Gilmore was probably the sanest and most practical of the bunch. Don't blame him for allowing the distance to remain between them. Rodgers wants in on the website. That's rich. Did he contribute to it's generation and feels entitled because there's group music that he played and sang in? Well, maybe he should've forked over his share of the investment money creating the website, not come along after the work was done and demand to be let back in. He left of his own free will. Took his ball and went home. Living with the choices made. We all must. I agree get over it.

[@williammacdonald9271]

Reminds me of the characters I deal with, RW quits the band, the band moves on, RW still expects to be treated as if his is a part of the band…Mr Waters is only embarrassing himself with this BS.

[@bertjilk3456]

Boo Hoo. You left the band and then tried everything in your power to try and stop them. Now you expect to peddle your crap on the website? Gimme a break.

[@LOLSKU115]

What do you want to break?

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

Yea, because Roger needs to pedal his crap…. He has the 6th highest grossing tour ever with his Wall tour and has a net worth of estimated 300 million plus. Roger has always been to the point and here he is answering a question he’s been asked. Not sure why you are angry/upset about it.

[@bertjilk3456]

@@user-tz2zz5ij1s I was referring to his solo material. In case you missed it, The Wall was a Pink Floyd album. As someone who has bought and listened to his solo albums, I’m entitled to the opinion that they’re crap. The sales numbers would suggest I’m not alone, but Roger seems to believe it’s because he doesn’t have the Pink Floyd name (hence his extended rant).

[@user-tz2zz5ij1s]

@@bertjilk3456 In case you missed it, you do know that The Wall was basically a solo record from Roger which is why he eventually left? Roger was the heart and soul of Pink Floyd. The main contributor and the guidance to all their top selling albums. I would disagree, Amused to Death and Is This The Life We Really Want are better than anything Pink Floyd has done post Roger Leaving. They also sold very well. We are all entitled to our opinions chief. So is Roger when answering a question. Without Roger there would have never been a Pink Floyd. You really going to say Division Bell is good and holds up TDSOTM, Wish You Were Here or The Wall? Roger is just simply stating that he believes that a website called The Pink Floyd should also include him and what he’s up to. And fun fact, I’ve seen Roger live on three different tours with a ticket for the next This is Not a Drill tour in the past 15 years. When’s the last time you could catch a Pink Floyd tour? Roger to this day is keeping Pink Floyd’s music alive, viable, and able to experience. I’m pretty sure fans just love the music. There is no Us and Them when it comes to the music. They aren’t competing. Hell David even showed up and played on a couple of Rogers tours. Don’t be a hater and just a negative person. You can do better than that.

[@bertjilk3456]

@@user-tz2zz5ij1s All your opinion, which you’re entitled to as well (except that Gilmour appeared for two songs, at one concert). I’m glad you enjoyed his concerts, I did too (but I missed the signature sound of Gilmour and Wright, which were integral to PF). I also enjoyed Gilmour’s tours even more, because I’m more partial to the MUSIC of PF. The fact remains, Waters left Pink Floyd rather bitterly, and it’s more than a bit laughable that he now wants to use it as an advertising platform. Which begs the question, if his solo career is as resoundingly successful as you suggest (hint: it isn’t), why does he even care about the website of his former band? Allow me to suggest the answer: he wants the marketing clout that the brand name ‘Pink Floyd’ carries. If I was Gilmour, I would say the same thing. F-off! That’s not hating, it’s just reality.

[@nehemiahalley2478]

While you were hanging yourself on someone else's words dying to believe in what you heard David was staring straight into the shining sun. Sad my man just sad.

[@dylanolson6077]

"David thinks he owns Pink Floyd, He thinks he IS Pink Floyd" Brother, you LEFT the band! which makes David more Pink Floyd than you'll ever be FFS

[@Coastguardloser]

Some of y’all ain’t ever seen the behind the scenes of live in Pompeii or behind dark side of the moon because David gilmour did way more than sing and play his beautiful solos he worked on the ambient noise surrounding the songs and was an absolute genius when it came to knowing good rhythm and making music and lyrics mix so smooth

[@father1st894]

Listen to PF before Gilmour then after Gilmour joined.. There is a stark difference. Gilmour brought it together.

[@Coastguardloser]

@@father1st894 well I mean syd was jacked up on all sorts of shit which ya know is the reason for gilmour so that didn’t help much

[@maxmerton]

@@father1st894 It was nowhere near that black and white.

[@TIMTIMEdits]

@@maxmerton 100% agree, people like to oversimplify

[@aravrola3601]

Absolutely agree, some of the best PF music came after Roger left, but the masses had moved on too far away to appreciate.

[@747driver3]

Rodger. You are difficult and abandoned the band. David HAS carried Pink Floyd for a very long time. Your interests now seem to have more to do with promoting your own interests using the Pink Floyd name vs really contributing anything else to the name.

[@thomasgeier6167]

This!

[@keithmoriyama5421]

It is never a classy move to publicly scorn your enemy in an attempt to make yourself look better.

[@ralphiecifaretto8961]

Fvkk class. Gilmour is trying to take all the credit for Pink Floyd's success.

[@AvroBellow]

@@ralphiecifaretto8961 Fvkk Waters. That he would empathise with Trump voters just shows how much he DIDN'T fit what Pink Floyd was about.

[@bubblefroggy1]

If Gilmour was so 'classy', he would have had the dignity to defend Roger Waters when he's leveled such low attacks as being treated of 'anti-Semite'. The total silence on such attack speaks volumes. Plus Gilmour associates himself and the PF brand and supports the monstrous NATO lies and killing fields of Ukraine. While Roger keeps destroying every lie you can read in the media about Ukraine, Gaza etc.

[@pskattum]

I love every single era Pink Floyd has produced. I also have loved each person's solo projects. I have no desire to badmouth any of them. My assumption is that since Roger left the band, the remaining members want to maintain control of their brand. If someone left a company, but attempted to keep access to their advertising or marketing department, there would be lawsuits. They didn't erase Roger from the past, they just don't allow him any control from outside of the band he chose to leave. "Thank you Roger! I truly appreciate and love everything that you created (musically) with and without Pink Floyd. All of it has had a profound impact on my life."

[@ruthiebelzaladylorians9826]

agree

[@JacoWium]

A lovely sober and mature perspective - double thumbs up!

[@Skibbidyboobop]

Very well said.

[@nemanjastankovic4439]

Well if composer and songwriter leaves (and that is what Roger was , all songs done by him) you might wanna let him keep name of the band and start something else instead of using "company" name to sell different products made by you. As for personal attacks , couldn't care less.

[@ronbisti4352]

I’m on team Gilmour. Watching the love stuff from ‘87-‘94 you can see the joy they had in playing together. I’d much prefer to listen to this material these days. Of course Roger had a major part in some of the older material but don’t forget for example Sorrow or Coming Back To Life from the later years.

[@papaforever3706]

I agree.

[@donkeyboy585]

Coming from the guy who proclaimed “you all work for me” And fired Rick. Karma is a bitch aye?

[@voodoodisco]

no Karma. RW sells out arenas when he tours. okay then!

[@redplague]

If Gilmour let Waters be allowed to have access to the website he would take it over and make it completely about him, because that's what he's always done.

[@soundworld3408]

And so it is about Gilmour. Big difference...

[@redplague]

@@soundworld3408 Because Waters isn't allowed access obviously. If he was he wouldn't be content with sharing.

[@NoMeWithoutYou1]

Roger's still trappeed in his giant ego. How sad.

[@sickpuppy5604]

One more thing, after all these years, Guy Pratt is more "Pink Floyd" than you Roger. Your bass was easily replaced, Gilmour's guitar sound was and is uniquely the sound of "Pink Floyd".

[@mickyhermit4437]

Well, Rogers’ lyrics are not replaceable. Neither is his voice. So you can’t really replace someone just by playing their instrument. And Guy Pratt was a touring musician, not a member of Pink Floyd. So David didn’t actually “replace” Roger, contrary to popular opinion. “Bass players are ten-a-penny aren’t they?”-David Gilmour

[@charly9927]

@@mickyhermit4437 I was about to write the same about Roger's lyrics and voice. Thanks.

[@mickyhermit4437]

@@charly9927 many people overlook the fact that no band members replaced one another. Roger didn’t replace Rick. David didn’t replace Roger. When David Gilmour joined, it was officially a five member band, (so Syd was never replaced) and when Syd left, both Roger and David ensured that his memory stayed intact. So Roger and Dave do share some of the same values.

[@ianwalker4030]

@@mickyhermit4437 Guy Pratt ( Rick Wright’s son-in-law) is there on merit, as he is a multi-instrumentalist, he doesn’t just play bass!!

[@redrocker1055]

I don't think I've ever seen someone as upset about getting what they wanted as this dude is. Sorry, but the second someone takes me to court the chances of us ever being friends or even friendly to one another is forever lost. Gilmour & Mason seem like really nice guys but Waters is being unreasonable and has been for 35 years.

[@ianwalker4030]

100% you’re right……. Waters caused the split and was quoted in several reports at the time that he regarded Pink Floyd, as dissolved, you can’t have it both ways …… PS Polly Sampson has stayed gorgeous for years….. Dave Gilmour has a happy home life……people like to see it

[@anneominous7172]

@@ianwalker4030 ^This. Roger, being the egomaniac he is, walked out of the band and when he did so he considered Pink Floyd over, he stated as much at the time. He expected the others to just go their separate ways because evidently he considers himself Pink. When they didn't and the band kept going, he became bitter. If you walk away from a band to the extend that you do so considering the band DEAD when you do so you can't cry about it decades later when the band are still together (the surviving members, of course) and won't let you use their name and resources to promote your ongoing solo projects - especially with how vicious he was over the whole thing. You can't eat your cake and have it too. Children think that way.

[@crazyralph6386]

Mason is one of the coolest dudes you'll ever meet. Heck of a chopper pilot too.

[@areolaman]

@@anneominous7172 Roger Waters is touring this summer and selling out arenas. Pink Floyd is finished.

[@anneominous7172]

@@areolaman not even remotely related to my point. Did you even read my comment before replying to it?

[@thorpenator9148]

That says it all. David attacks no one. David does own Pink Floyd along with his other band mates.

[@bneon]

Used his wife to do that

[@thorpenator9148]

@@bneon Unlike him. He should of stayed Stoic.

[@AL-ih5mm]

Roger you have to get past the new boss of Pink Floyd: Polly Sampson… boy what a tragic turn of events… my heart-felt condolences Roger…🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻