Roland TR-8S Guide / Pattern Chaining

[@johnarchluleta]

Your channel is the only tutorial that makes the tr8-s make sense to me- thank you!

[@darrengill2365]

Thankyou, the best tutorials out there for TR8S, short and easy to follow. Excellent!

[@ronaldlane1597]

Great vid. To the Roland Corp. When you make a drum machine, HAVE A SONG MODE Feature!!!! I'm sure at least 99% of us use SONG MODE!!! It saves time when it comes to writing SONGS, Commercials and programming SHOWS. Most of us have no need to mess with the drum machine "On the Fly" .We already know what we're doing. S

[@Katmat87]

So ridiculous there isn’t something like a song mode

[@totalSLACK]

i am feeling this so hard right now... they could just even use the same "song mode" thy used on the DR202 in the 90s!

[@mobilegames718]

For a long time I could not figure out how to play patterns alternately. Your video helped me. Thanks for the help!

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

I'm glad to hear this. Thanks

[@SsgtHolland]

Nice and clear explanation, thank you.

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Thank you

[@djmumma]

really useful - all the videos are and they make a lot of sense! Thank-you very much 😊

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Thank you, glad I can help a bit.

[@kezstone1]

Thank you for the demo. What would be even better would be a dedicated 'song mode' where you can play or repeat any pattern or variation in any order. I can't believe Roland have still not implemented this feature in an update.

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

I agree That would be fantastic... but you can't have everything ;) I think there is always something to improve but for a drum machine the TR8S is pretty good in my opinion.

[@kezstone1]

@@choppedstrandaudio4561 I actually think a 'song mode' is pretty basic stuff and at this price it's should've been included from the very beginning. I agree it's capable of sounding amazing.

[@Katmat87]

Can’t believe there isn’t a song mode on a £500 ‘drum machine’ you cannot make a song with this pattern chaining bs.

[@sdixon305]

Really good content. Keep it up and your channel will grow for sure!

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Thanks mate 👍

[@djfantomcat]

Your videos are such a great resource. I literally watch them before my live sets, and they allow me to better utilize my TR-8S when I'm DJing! Literally making me a better producer! I have a question though. On another topic, is there a way to edit a pattern variation while the drum machine is playing? For example, I can only edit variation A while playing, but I can't get another variation to appear visually to edit it. Btw do you have a patreon?

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Thanks for your great feedback. Always so good to hear something positive for what I do here. I don't have Patreon yet, its in the make right now. Two three weeks and it is online :) thanks for asking. There is a way to edit a variation while another is playing. You need to be in TR Rec mode. Let's say variation A is playing and you want to change/edit/add variation B. Just hold down TR Rec and while holding down select your variation you want to edit. (Choose let's say Variation B) Variation B should blink orange while A is green and playing. Now you can edit variation B. To exit I think just press TR Rec again. Hope this helps Cheers

[@djfantomcat]

@@choppedstrandaudio4561 you're the best! Thank you so much! I'll try this out soon.

[@mjdub]

Thanks so much for these awesome tutorials! I’m learning my new tr-8s so much faster because of you. Is it possible to use a different kit or different instruments for different variations within a pattern or are they constrained to share the same 11 instruments?

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Hey, yes. You can use different instruments for different variations. You could also copy you pattern and have more instruments available or copy your kit and chain everything together etc... Cheers

[@designsinorbit]

I'd love to be able switch instrument effects from pattern to pattern.

[@tedvanhintum9908]

Hi, many thanks for your videos. My question: do you know how I can save the chained patterns into 1 song/rhythm track for playback later? Even my old Boss DR-770 has this feature...

[@VincentPresley]

It doesn’t do that for some reason. No song mode at all. Completely necessary feature for anyone writing a song and Roland left it out.

[@tedvanhintum9908]

@@VincentPresley thanks, hopefully at Roland they will see the light and provide an update

[@VincentPresley]

@@tedvanhintum9908 I contacted them and they suggested I watch this video. Ha!

[@abrokenframe82]

Thanks for the helpful video. Like others have said It is absolutely stupid that Roland didn't implement a dedicated song mode. The Roland R8 form 1990 has song mode!

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Thank you for the positive feedback. I agree this would be a very helpful function.

[@dRew-something]

Great vid and explanation. Can you edit a pattern whilst playing them in a chain?

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Hey, yes sure. You need to be in TR-REC mode first. Second let's say variation A until D are playing in a chain. Press and hold down TR-REC and press the variation you want to edit. The selected variation is blinking red rapidly. You can change now the variation as you like while your TR8S is still playing the variations in the chain. To exit the mode chain again your variations together. Cheers ;)

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Check my video ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6XbiIlueqiraNk

[@dRew-something]

Thanks for your reply and help.

[@dRew-something]

@@choppedstrandaudio4561 thanks for your reply and help

[@fearisyuronlygod]

Great video, thank you very much. Where I'm having trouble is that (with PTN SELECT) I press and hold 1 and then press 8, and they light up like in the video. However, when I press START/STOP, it always starts on pattern 2. Any thoughts on this?

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Hi, do you mean it starts in Variation B (pattern 2)

[@cash6895]

Danke für das informative Video =) Eine Frage hätte ich tatsächlich: Wie wechsle ich im Live Betrieb auf die nächste Bank mit meine Patterns des nächsten Songs? Vielen Dank & mach weiter so =)

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Hey, vielen Dank dir. Wenn ich dich richtig verstanden habe... halte PTN Select gedrückt und wahle deine Bank mit step 1-16. Anschließend lasse PTN los und du siehst im Display die Zahl nach der Bank blinkt. Jetzt kannst du die PTN Nummer mit step 1-16 auswählen. Das TR-8S wird dann nachdem letzten step automatisch auf dein eingegebenes PTN springen.

[@miguerre]

Great videos. Question, say I have a patterns for a song using position 8-1 to 8-16, but now I would like to work on a different song, where can I put my new patterns? Can I only work on one song at a time using patterns 8-1 to 8-16? Can I save patterns in the SD card for multiple songs?

[@VincentPresley]

It’s ridiculous that any modern drum machine wouldn’t have a song mode let alone one that costs this much. This is an okay work around but seriously you should just be able to quickly say pattern 10 / variation 2 x8, pattern 43 variation 6 x4, etc etc like gear has done since the 80s. A $50 dr550 has a song mode.

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

I agree, it would be very helpful and it would make the workflow much better.

[@TheDisco2000]

Hi! Do you know if it's possible to trigger pattern changes with a MIDI pedal?

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Hey, honestly I'm not sure about this. Sorry Mate.

[@designsinorbit]

FOUND IT!

[@afonsoneves3111]

VERY VERY VERY nice

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Thanks 👍

[@babbax]

If you build one pattern with All Variations and use this als one track. And the second pattern for the second track... How can i make a transition between this 2 pattern?

[@pierremusic1917]

Is it possible to switch between projects seamlessly while playing? I recently got an MC-101 and was shocked that this can’t be done!

[@gabrieldelamora3701]

Greetings, I really enjoy your content, it has helped me very much to get a deeper understanding of the tr8s, I'm constantly coming back to your channel for tips :) thank you!! I'm having an issue with two of my patterns: it seems that pattern 1 and 2 are "locked" together, when I try to load a different "kit" on pattern 1 it automatically changes the kit on pattern 2 (wich is something I don't want to happen). I've looked for a solution to this but I've had no luck :( Is there a solution to this issue? Thank you!!!

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Hey, let me have a look later. I'll come back to your question. Cheers

[@gabrieldelamora3701]

@@choppedstrandaudio4561 thank you!!!

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Hey, coming back to your question. I had a deeper look and I think I can't help you with this. The only thing I can think about is to delete your chain link ptn 1 and 2. Than choose your kit in ptn 1 and ptn 2. After this chain those two ptn back together. I guess you tried this already?

[@gabrieldelamora3701]

Thank you so much! I'm going to apply that, I'll let you know how it goes!!! I truly appreciate your time and support!

[@chrisbaron70]

So for example can you choose any patterns and put them in your own order?

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

Not I'm aware of... You can choose any pattern but the pattern need to be in order like 1-16 or 4-9.

[@Italo_Brutalo]

Correct me if i am wrong but it´s not possible to chain more than 128 bars, right? It´s 16 patterns with 8 variations each, correct?

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

So far I know that is correct. You could switch after the 16 patterns to another kit and have the same story again.

[@yokorobi7610]

do you have a donation link? helped out alot would love to give back!

[@choppedstrandaudio4561]

I'm happy I could help :) You can check out my Kofi page ko-fi.com/choppedstrandaudio

[@juandrey]

it is possible to program Buttons [A]-[H] example: let A repeat 1 time, then move on to B which repeats 4 times to return to A

[@Katmat87]

That would be so useful, even to do this with the praterns, then we could program songs, which is what most of us have a drum machine for. Come ON Roland what are you playing at??

[@juandrey]

@@Katmat87 looking for a way to do a live performance without a computer

[@forrestcitygroove]

Song Mode Please great drum machine tho