Rolex Killer! 5 Reasons Why You Should Buy The Omega Seamaster Instead (And 5 Why You Shouldn't)

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Big shout out to Kevin the Scotsman, and to his fiancee, for the loan of this stunner. I hope he goes back to the shop and plays them my 'moans and niggles section' though. For $7000AUD I'd expect a clasp that closed more easily than this one. It still makes a strong case for itself though, if you don't want to join the Cult of Rolex. Cheers, Jody

[@Mr_Memer.876]

I had the Phylida No Time To Die Seamaster homage and had the same issue with the clasp... Their commitment to authenticity is commendable.

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Ahahahahaaha! Comment of the day.

[@kellypaws]

Ah, will the Omega still be current when Bond appears in "No Time to Release".

[@zogzog1063]

I had Phylida once. Antibiotics cured it.

[@Olddirtytiger]

😆😆😆

[@Mr_Memer.876]

@@zogzog1063 needless to say I went for the sterilsed version... I mean the sterile version. 🤣

[@woody2020]

I am lucky enough to have both Rolex and Omega watches. The Omega gets the most wrist time and compliments.

[@BrianM78]

I'm not. 😃

[@greamespens1460]

@@BrianM78 VG

[@Pete…NoNotThatOne]

Same here. Funny though, my Lorier Neptune gets most wrist time.

[@Chopperdriver]

I think that’s the way to go. Life’s too short.

[@DM-rc4yu]

Let's be real, you made up the compliments part.

[@Pentti_Hilkuri]

Rolex doesn't wanna sell, I can't afford to buy. All is good.

[@thewatchtherapist5066]

Rolex does want to sell, just not to you

[@Tunkkis]

Voitto se on pienikin voitto.

[@Dr.Gunsmith]

They are trying to make themselves untouchable 😂 they think they want to be Patek.

[@dstfno]

@@thewatchtherapist5066 And that says enough. You cannot feel truly accomplished never having had to suck off a Rolex salesman in order to convince him to sell you a precious sports watch. Only after grovelling in front of him for hours you can discover the true meaning of life.

[@NippleSauce]

If you live near an actual Rolex store (I think there's only one in the US - in Boston), they're semi-frequently in stock and are at the normal prices listed on their site; so way cheaper than most retailers and dealers list them for which is usually the 2-3x lol). So while they'd still be nearly impossible to get anywhere else for the normal prices, I'm thinking there has to be a financial reason behind this... Like, perhaps Rolex only has a small handful of employees in the entire company. Then they only produce very few watches per financial period so that the pieces maintain their high values for a heavily extended period of time and they also instantly sell out each and every time they make enough to sell; and their small quantities produced and sold are still enough to cover the company's total costs. Just a thought - as I'm a youngster getting paid minimum wage for tech work =/

[@eiriknss3727]

Bought the black dial version over a year ago. Quality Control on mine (maybe I was lucky) was and still is flawless. The bezel pip/pearl/12'o clock lines up perfectly on mine with absolutely no backplay. Looking through a lupe confirmed that. It is extremely precise aswell. More precise than my Rolexes and Audemars Piguet royal oak and offshore. I prefer the look/aesthetics of the Sub but if you're looking at value for money and the technical specs it's impossible to not recommend the SMP over the Sub. Everything is better except the bezel action; with sweaty or wet hands it's almost impossible to get a grip and turn it and that's annoying. The Subs bezel action feels alot more satisfying. And the power reserve on the 2020 41mm 126610 Sub increased to aproximately 70 from 48 hours on the previous model. Another thing worth mentioning is how durable/"tanky" the SMP is. It's literally impossible to scratch the crystal or bezel. I do wear my watches with care including the SMP but the SMP, due to it's price, is not a watch im constantly afraid of dinging or scratching. I'll sleep and shower with it, no problem. Altough i do not recommend showering with it because of the steam that can ruin the gaskets. Oh and even if it gets a ding ... nothing happens. I've had a few accidents where I could really feel it in my stomach that this would leave a mark, but when i looked, nothing - not a scratch. it can take a beating. In fact there is not a single scratch on the watchhead, case, bezel etc. The only hairlines that are at all visible on my SMP 300m - after over a year of using it alot - is on the bracelet and mainly the clasp. Scratching up the clasp is unavoidable if you wear it to wear it. So just be prepared for that to happen. Happens to all watches unless you treat it with extreme care and always take it off when you are deskdiving and things like that where the clasp will come into contact with another hard surface. However, you can polish that out easily if you want to by going to your AD and have them do it. Or just do it yourself. I have not bothered with doing anything with the hairlines on the clasp or bracelet. I don't care about that. This watch is a day to day beater for me. But I see alot of ppl doing it themselves and getting great results. The SMP will last "forever" if you take good care of it. I recommend buying this on the OEM bracelet, but also to get a rubberstrap (up to you if you get a Zelande, OEM or whatever. They look and feel pretty much identical) and a natostrap. The rubber and nato looks extremely good on the post 2018 SMP and gives it a whole new dimension. It goes from classic and timeless into a much more sporty and casual watch. So yeah... for those hot vacations or summer days you definitely want a rubber and/or nato that fits whatever color config you end up getting and your more casual clothes. On the OEM bracelet it does look dressy. Especially the black/monochrome one. I was expecting a little more praise for what Omega has achieved here but it is what it is. I respect your opinion. Just wanted to add this so that people who watch your video wont get spooked away from buying one because of rumours of bad quality control. That happens to every brand. Omega is a rock solid company and they/the AD will give you a new watch if something is not right with the one you get initially. There is really only 2 things i have a small issue with on the post 2018 SMP 300m and that's the Helium Valve. I agree on that being absolutely unnecesarry. It's a dealbreaker for alot of people too, so yeah im surprised they don't give you the option to choose if you want the valve or not, but it wasn't a dealbreaker for me. Even with the valve the watch still looks great. But I would definitely prefer not having it for a cleaner look. Nobody will ever use that. Not even saturation divers (they use dive computers). And 2nd: the bezel action and how hard it is to turn it if your hands/fingers are wet or sweaty. You also have to use a different technique on this bezel that involves applying some downward pressure while you turn it, but it's probably on purpose so that it wont move on accident under water. That seems to be the general consensus anyways. If the bezel turns during a dive and you lose track of time it could be fatal. Especially if you're below 20 feet and have to decompress and slowly surface. I just don't see alot of people using this watch to dive with. The bezel turning under water has happened to other watches i've had as they got older and the bezel action looser. I don't use the bezel much on my SMP so it's more or less as crisp as when it was brand new so i can't really say how the bezel action would be if you used it alot pver time. But the quality and finish on the SMP is really high so I think it's pretty durable. Everything else on the watch is. The end.

[@taoistgoth]

" If the bezel turns during a dive and you lose track of time it could be fatal" - this is why the bezel only turns in one direction. If it gets knocked and turns, all that will do is shorten your dive, which is safer.

[@BosunM8James]

"such is the madness of the watch market at the moment" Truer words were never spoken

[@geraldtait2578]

I'd rather keep my money and use my cheap watch than spend my savings on a Omega and yes I can afford it

[@diydad7704]

...but you don't have to accept it, do you? There's plenty of other options to choose from. Question is: Do you buy a watch to impress, enjoy or use?

[@geraldtait2578]

Quite right

[@12thsonofthelama86]

I don’t want to brag but I have the most Scottish Name Ever!!

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Ahahahahah!

[@gregwallace9035]

Mines not bad either.

[@beaubuck9513]

I have the most American name ever but none of the bastages can pronounce it. They’ve been calling me bee-yow-eww forever so I go by my middle name instead, Dylan. Guess what else they can’t pronounce...

[@12thsonofthelama86]

@@beaubuck9513 😂😂😂

[@duncanhamilton5841]

*ahem*

[@andrewd7586]

I bought the white dial version several months ago & immediately swapped out the bracelet for an Omega rubber strap. To me a way better fit & considerably less weight. I have 4 Omega’s & 1 VINTAGE Rolex. I’ll never fork out that kind of insane money for a name, when to me Omega is so good!

[@aussie8114]

Sitting here wearing my Casio Duro and feeling quite smug that I’ve still got a very healthy looking bank balance.

[@aussie8114]

@@djzrobzombie2813 No I’m a smart puppy 😂

[@Shavenuw129]

I'm looking at my Submariner and my healthy bank balance.

[@shepleonard8695]

Can't take it with you. It's time to grow up and buy a quality automatic.

[@erikkalifornia5182]

Own a SMP 300m, and also have a healthy looking bank balance ;)

[@erikkalifornia5182]

@@djzrobzombie2813 ha. Maybe 😘

[@chrism65]

100% agree with the clasp securing issue. I've only had my seamaster for a day or so, but I immediately picked up on the clasp not easily securing. My solution has been to depress the two buttons to allow it to close properly.

[@tashanozdemir9508]

Also, my clasp has no issues with not popping in, personally, because it’s my first luxury watch and I do tend to baby it a little, I usually engage the double pushers before pushing it anyways so it bites silently, but whenever I let someone give it a try they push it on as you did in the video with no problems

[@TechnoLawyer]

While Rolex makes great watches, try walking into an AD and asking for a Sub. You'll be laughed at, and told to buy a few two tone day dates instead, and then maybe in a few years they'll sell you a sub. Omega AD, basically any model? Sure, right here in the case. The one you want isn't here? No problem, we'll have it overnighted here. Now, I'd rather have Rolex value retention, but there's something to be said for actually being able to buy the damn thing.

[@jukebox1794]

that's because EVERYONE wants a Omega that's why it's always available.

[@dtac_10_29]

Tbh local AD here are telling us there are waiting list for some of the Omega now, granted they are the much more special models like Snoopy and No Time To Die mesh bracelet version. Even this white dial Seamaster are getting rare here. The salesperson was telling us this is the first time in history they have seen many other brands have waiting list (ie. Omega and Zenith).

[@stevenc9207]

@@jukebox1794 no, everyone wants a Rolex, that's why you can't buy them anywhere, and why they go for so much over retail

[@jukebox1794]

@@stevenc9207 flew right past your head didn't it?

[@WatchUnwind]

the amount of disrespect you get in a Rolex AD is bonkers. Truly do not give one F&*k about you

[@stephenspain9167]

I guess for me "what you get for what you pay for" tops out around $2,500 USD, any price beyond that you're just paying for the label on the dial.

[@sc2thrashmetal]

Spoken like someone that doesn't own any pieces worth over 15k lmao. There is a huge difference.

[@poulwinther]

Of course there are some fine handmade pieces that are worth a lot more, but serial production watches in steel just don't cost anywhere near $2.500 to manufacture.

[@shino8854]

Not if they are gold though.

[@poulwinther]

@@sc2thrashmetal Spoken like a true pretentious snob who pays 15k+ for a steel Rolex and thinks it's "luxury", rather than the $500 piece of sports watch junk (as estimated by NWACC) that it really is. Have fun paying for marketing while bragging about superiority.

[@poulwinther]

@@shino8854 No, at the current rate the value of the gold in solid gold Sub is many times higher than the manufacturing value of the watch.

[@jonathanou8122]

I've only been in one AD for Rolex and I went straight passed the Rolex case and bought a Hamilton Khaki. The only thing stopping me from the Rolex pick up was my total disinterest in anything Rolex. Now, if they'd have had an Omega selection I'd have had my grail Aqua Terra. Great video Mr. JOMW. (I was just about over my obsession with Omega damn it.)

[@jafo4u508]

I have this beauty but I am totally in love with the Hamilton Khaki also! She is next on my watch collection quest. Never heard of an Omega Aqua Terra going to have to check into what you're talking about. How have you enjoyed having the Khaki? I can't stop looking at her online even though I have this Omega on my wrist right now . Am I cheating on my Omega? Hamilton made me do it!

[@defenestratedone]

I've got the exact same model. While my clasp isn't the "clickiest" it looks a fair bit better than that one and I don't need to squeeze it shut like that. Definitely get it looked at!

[@TAdamRox]

Nice. I'm torn between this and the silver dial.

[@Dominik_xlsx]

Mine works perfectly fine... 2020 made model. Maybe that makes a difference.

[@patrickmilligan8409]

Had my blue SMP since 2019. Absolutely love it. I live in an area where no one cares about watches, so there goes the chance for compliments, but recognition is not why I bought it. The clasp "clickiness" has been without issue; However, one of the buttons likes to get stuck and, seemingly, only while it's on my wrist. Lol. Sent it to Omega, they fixed it. Same thing happened six months later, I hit it with some gun oil and it's been flawless since. Don't worry, Omega, I'll fix your QC issue for you. 😅 Other than that, it's been a champ and I wear it to work in a shipping warehouse so it's not babied.

[@allanreardon]

Haven't even watched and have liked and commenting. This is the Omega I WILL be buying next.

[@1973retrorabbit]

I'm torn between the blue and the grey dial version, the grey one doesn't look good in photos but when you have it on wrist it plays with the light... Then of course, there's the black one. Indecision is the reason I'm not wearing one now as I can't afford to buy 3 at once. 😆

[@allanreardon]

@@1973retrorabbit I bought a Speedy a couple of years ago. It was a month or so before the white dial came out. I tried on the silver and black SMPs. In fact while I had always wanted a Speedy, the SMP was right up there for me. Before I went into try them all on I was planning on buying the SMP, but then the heart strings pulled me back towards the Speedy.. In the end I decided I'd end up buying both at some point anyway.

[@1973retrorabbit]

@@allanreardon I've got a Speedy on my (ever growing and getting expensive) list too. Only thing that held me back in 2019 was the rumbling I heard about a possible new version coming out with an updated movement. So the new Moon Watch is on the list but that leaves the age old hesalite or sapphire question... I actually have a 1972 Omega De Ville with a tuning fork movement, it's got the original hesalite and has survived without any dings or scratches. I'll probably go sapphire sandwich tho, just for day to day practicality. I think the SMP is probably the better of the two as a daily and the other Omega I have my eye on is a Seamaster too, a "1948” limited edition, not sure how limited it is but it's gorgeous on the blue leather and will be a great semi/ dress watch. I recently got the new Omega porn... er... Catalogue delivered, that was a really bad idea. 😉

[@blacksquirrel4008]

Yes, the scallop edged bezel is not as easy to grip as a coin edge but a glove does make it easier.

[@rre9121]

17:20 The biggest lie people will ever try to sell you is that anyone will notice your watch. They don't.

[@scorpianbliz]

That's a lie, people notice and my not always comment. Especially people who are on some level who are into watches. The sub has definitely by far gotten the most compliments

[@cuestion-de-tiempo]

@scorpianbliz if they notice your Rolex they will also ask it is fake?

[@scorpianbliz]

@@cuestion-de-tiempo so far, its been "nice watch" My Omega 300m complimented once in 15 years Had a Christopher Ward GMT complimented once before I sold it Submariner 3 or 4 times. When I see a Rolex, I never wonder if it's fake or not. They may not always say something but people notice Rolex watches...

[@cuestion-de-tiempo]

@@scorpianbliz to be honest - I try not to get compliments on my watches - if it happens oh well a good smile and a thanks... I buy watches for my taste and preferences, if others compliment on them or not is not important to me.

[@jonirwin7316]

Thank you! 100% true

[@rtsbeyond]

I’ve never warmed up to watches like these, my problem is at a glance they often look exactly the same to me. The Aussie G-Shock that was a nice change up and it’s more impact resistant

[@Happy357mag]

Yes the Aussie G-Shock is very ugly I mean unique. It being plastic and rubber it also bounces nicely but I still prefer metal. Buy what you like and be happy! Or win It.

[@kevinleighuk]

Great review and intelligent comments! I completely agree about the Omega brand versus the Rolex in terms of obtainability and price. Equally I agree about Rolex versus Omega in terms of future value and perception. I own Rolex and Omega watches. My Speedmaster is finished just as well as all of my GMT IIs. The Speedmaster is also an iconic watch and the Co-Axial movement is very accurate - though so too are all my GMT IIs. And you are quite right about packaging. Rolex is disappointing even if you buy a solid gold model. My Omega on the other hand, albeit a 50th anniversary model, came with a small suitcase of goodies which adds to the experience of buying it. But let me give you another suggestion. If buying the Omega is a stretch or you simply can't afford a Rolex but love the Omega Seamaster design, then consider the Seiko Prospex King Samurai launched last year (2020). I came across this when passing the time in lockdown. It's a fabulous watch and very similar visually to the Seamaster especially with the white waffle dial version (also reminiscent of the AP Royal Oak which is no bad thing). It is stainless steel, has a rubber strap or bracelet (though the white only comes with the black strap), a ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal (unlike earlier Samurai models), and a date with a cyclops window (like a Rolex, also no bad thing). The latter is actually incredibly useful if like me your eyes aren't as good as they used to be. All round this watch punches well above its weight. I have had no QC issues (inc chapter rings and bezels lining up correctly). And at around £500 it's a relative bargain! The Seiko movement inside is of course in-house by definition (like Omega and Rolex - another box ticked) and powers many microbrands due to its robustness, quality and price. I have it in several other watches like my Zelos Swordfish and Signum Cuda. The Seiko NH35A movement is a real tank. You can see I have been busy in lockdown! Anyhow, maybe you should do a review comparing the Seamsater with the Samurai? You might be surprised.

[@issachunt3418]

Nice nod to Murray btw:)

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Gone, but not forgotten. I couldn't find my Murray tee, so a wee photo will have to do.

[@Azeria]

A legend.

[@captbumbler5356]

He will be missed though he was not commentating any more was still around for those who were his friends in the sport. Wonder if they will use his Go Go Go at the 1st GP this year

[@shawnz241]

Love the shirt! From where I look at it, it isn’t a 7k Omega vs a 12k Rolex but either the grey-market priced Sub or the price of a Sub + whatever you “had” to buy. When you factor that into the resale equation, depreciation hits both items. Thankfully I dislike dive watches in general and my favourite, the Aqua Terra is a readily available piece!

[@unixnerd1]

The white one is glorious. I'm a sucker for these super contrasty legible dials and the 3D indices look amazing too. Those QC issues, though - gotta wonder where your money goes if they can't get those things right. Great, thorough review as usual.

[@degh6543aqkk]

Got my SMP300 as an engagement gift back in 2007 too.. never realised it was a trend 😅.. I like the fact that it’s only recognised by watch enthusiasts and regular people don’t give you the “he’s wearing a Rolex” look

[@reverb508]

9:50- I have a previous generation Speedmaster and the clasp does the same thing. You have to either push down hard against your wrist, or get a finger under there to lock the clasp. The way I figure it, the harder it is to close, the harder it is to accidentally open :D

[@fergthe1st]

Have you seen Adrian's (Bark & Jack) Instagram post showing the micro scratches on the crystal? It seems the outer AR coating is to blame. This has to be a biggie - what is the point of sapphire if you add an easily scratch-able coating on top?!

[@garyb2507]

Couldn't agree more.

[@brandonnickerson8934]

Oofduh

[@RichardsModellingAdventures]

Yes indeed I manage to scratch the one I had

[@vladyakubets]

I haven't noticed anything similar on my Omega SMP 300M, and I've had it for a year (I wear it everyday). Is this something that Adrian noticed with the naked eye?

[@fergthe1st]

@@vladyakubets I'm not sure, the picture he posted was a macro

[@flyguy1359]

You would think, at 7 k, it wouldn't leave the factory unless it was faultless? I spent a grand on a Hamilton GMT and everything lines up perfect, the clasp works and it runs at one second a day.

[@kinegossmith5063]

I have the “odd” grey dial SMP 300M. Tried on about 8 different variations at the AD and this is the one for me. I happen to be wearing it as I watched this video and my clasp certainly doesn’t have the same QC issue as your friends, and my bezel lines up perfectly. I don’t have don’t have a Rolex but if you plan to pass your watch on to your kids as I do, I can’t imagine you’d be disappointed with the Omega. It’s an amazing watch.

[@rickyhou7684]

Proudly own my new Omega Aqua Terra 38mm. Wish the sea master 300 was a bit smaller, love the white dial. Hope they make a smaller seamaster 300

[@alexpiptom]

I actually sold my white dial seamaster for the submariner date, I really did love it but it just didn’t scratch the itch, and i found the date window a tad too small. Also I believe the new submariner has an anti reflective coating but only on the underside.

[@felixt1470]

Mine is blue bezel with grey dial. I noticed the small date windows also.

[@WhatIsItReallyAbout]

I know you're more often in the "value" end of the market, but I think the big hitters need your no-nonsense influence on them - perhaps more so. Great review.

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

No quarter asked for nor given! Thanks mate!

[@duck3092]

The Omega is such a good looking watch, its a pity about the helium release valve. Just ruins it for me.

[@ams914]

So funny because I used to feel that way and completely reversed my stance. It's a part of the watch's design. I want it to stay, doesn't make it wear any less comfortably. It's a part of the whole package, and I accept the package, LOL. I wouldn't mind it smaller like the prior generation though, especially being as we know no one will really use it.

[@pclayto3]

I'm only here to see what T-shirt Jody is wearing today.

[@jay_watch]

No problems with the “click” of the clasp on my black dial one. A fantastic watch indeed, great review Jay👊🏼

[@adamrkidd73]

As ever, fantastic review... the Omega is a stunning looking watch, but the Rolex still nudges it, as it defines the dive sector. I would suggest the Omega be dubbed the “Scaramanga”, not just for the Bond connection, but because it has that silly looking extra nipple at the 10 O’Clock.

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

Ha! I called it a wart, but nipple would do. Nice Bond based anaolgy mate.

[@andrewwheeler8591]

Excellent 🤣

[@cfcblue8]

I thought that was the detonator with the trigger housed in the bezel

[@pentachronic]

Rolex didn't define the Diver. Blancpain did.

[@adamrkidd73]

@@pentachronic I would say they created the sector, but the Submariner defines it...

[@michaelkulikowski7504]

Regarding the clasp... check if the divers extension is properly closed. Go with the folding part first and than firmly press the other side down (that's quite difficult to explain). I had a similar issue with the clasp not closing with a perfect "click" when I was fiddling with the divers extension and had it not closed tight. btw... keep up the great work. Your vids are always informative and funny to watch! Cheers!

[@BrittPearceWatches]

A very reasonable case for omega! 😱 absolutely love this watch and there’s no arguing with the specs! The only reason I find myself choosing the sub...... I like the design more! 🙈 I prefer the way it looks, and I love the way it wears! That 42mm is on the EDGE of whats too big for me! I wish I liked the sea master more!

[@WatchUnwind]

im a pretty big dude who has always been into big watches but as of late I found myself wishing that the sea master was a tad smaller. I wear it for work a lot and I move around in strange positions so sometimes it gets in the way. something my 38mm seiko alpinist never does

[@merlinzipp]

Servicing required and service turn around time is also something one should consider. Out of 20 Omega watches, 5 have required servicing for movement related issues not involving regulating. Out of 10 Rolex, 2 have required servicing. 1 for regulating and 1 for two metal shavings between the dial and crystal. The turn around time on Rolex was a week for the metal shavings on a new, special order Date/Just and two weeks on a purchased new, one year old Sea Dweller. The best turn around time on an Omega, not counting the 2 that I returned for refunds, was about 5 weeks. The worst was over 180 days. I know I am not unique to these servicing issues.

[@loscabos3532]

Thank you for this information, where did you pick it up ?

[@rousseau327]

Where did you get these numbers? For the turn around time for Rolex you quoted is absolute BS. Repairs and maintenance for my Rolexes and Tudor have easily been over 5+ weeks.

[@merlinzipp]

@@rousseau327 I bet the Rolex were sent to the authorized repair center in Dublin, Ohio.

[@rousseau327]

@@merlinzipp No, they were not. Where's the source for your numbers?

[@donaldbryan1521]

“Two Scotsmen haggling over a price...” 😆

[@peterbdavies]

Didn't you know that copper wire was invented because of two Scotsman arguing over a penny!

[@brianmsahin]

@@peterbdavies 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍

[@3rdstone1]

@@peterbdavies LMAO, havent' heard that classic since the 80s I think.

[@markdarwin4390]

@@peterbdavies ba - dumm Tishhhhhh :-)

[@KevW03]

It was a battle to behold let me tell you... id say Jody came out the victor though. His haggling skills are sharp 🤣

[@jamesblonde2271]

Dived with one of these for five years in Thailand, never took it off. Handled everything I could throw at it, fantastic flipping watch. What happened to your blue one ?

[@jamesblonde2271]

The bezel is a bit slippy in the water.

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

I flipped the blue one. Felt it was a bit big for me at the time, but that was 2019, before the entire world beefed up over the course of 2020!

[@shino8854]

Even when you muff dived and found a sea cucumber instead of an oyster!?

[@jamesblonde2271]

Ihad a flat dial which is smaller I think

[@jamesblonde2271]

@@djzrobzombie2813 it is to be fair

[@lonegroover]

Bought a quartz SMP at Narita Airport 23 years ago on an impulse. Still one of my favourite watches. Not sure if Omega still do quartz versions of these but mine is extremely convenient. The hour hand is independently adjustable.

[@btyc]

Still trying to convince my new wife to adopt your engagement tradition of watch buying...I need to chose a new model... of watch that is, not wife

[@ocb05]

IMO watch purchase works way better than a useless ring. Speaks more about personality and taste than any ring.

[@kellypaws]

@@ocb05 Indeed. Is that an Invicta I see?

[@wtfiswiththosehandles]

@@kellypaws That, my good sir, is a gen-u-wine Vostok Amphibia.

[@ocb05]

@@kellypaws i kinda dig the invicta 29182 actually. But for wedding watch wise Something better is always appreciated.

[@kellypaws]

@@ocb05 They have started to make a few watches that are not entirely horrid. But for a wedding watch - yes - it would be an ill portent.

[@t-murdock]

I’ve owned the latest version of the SMP300 since 2018 and I’ve never had a problem with my clasp. He definitely needs to get that checked out!

[@WatchUnwind]

i also have a SMP300 but on rubber. Awsome watch

[@mikesheehan5946]

The clasp on my Lorier (different level of course) does that sometimes and I think it's from the way your arm squashes in creating a strange angle for connection. Instead of closing it by squeezing from the inside I use the push buttons and it works fine. Worth a shot on that bad boy

[@simiscorpio]

My Omega speedmaster professional moonwatch with the hesalite crystal will alway stay in my collection. It's the most versatile watch ever made by far...

[@davidhobson7851]

I’ve mine on an uncle Seiko 20 to 16mm tapered bracelet and it’s amazing! Versatile with straps for sure, just not a do it all watch you could bring on holiday with poor water resistance

[@RichardsModellingAdventures]

But you can’t go swimming with it or do contact sports so how is it versatile?

[@thegraciefighter102]

@@RichardsModellingAdventures agreed - its not versatile at all

[@johnwick860]

summary: even Rolex & Omega has QC issues... so buying a Seiko is still good

[@M3LTUP]

Yep. I can overlook some alignment issues when watch is under $500. SKX or Turtle are best watches for diving.

[@163739]

owned my for over two years now and I've not had any issues with the clasp or watch full stop... Great watch very happy with it 👍😁

[@unknownriderinbound]

Only 25% Scot, but I would 100% prefer a Casio!

[@elmatroso7125]

As silver dial with blue bezel owner it's my big YES to this watch. Love it soooooo much. Senna t-shirt btw... Like it! P.S. I have no clasp issues. It's just clicks smoothly.

[@michelvandepol1485]

I stick to Timex, much more reliable, better service

[@greensocks4507]

Timex Iron-man is the toughest watch I own. I work on Container ships. Just saying.

[@dogooddeeds2146]

ABC KING

[@sc2thrashmetal]

More reliable than what lmao?? Timex is cheap garbage.

[@Happy357mag]

@@greensocks4507 I have two. I don't have a G-Shock.

[@jkokich]

@@greensocks4507 that’s a damn good testament.

[@peakrider4886]

I agree Jody, it would be interesting to see how popular a non helium escape valve version would be. Personally I like the wave pattern on the dial. So much so I went and bought a Phoibos Wavemaster just the other week. I have to say for a watch that was less than £240, the quality is amazing. I just have 2 niggles with it - it’s a bit chunky and heavy and the end links have a tiny bit of play, but neither of these are a deal breaker.

[@loganoftherockies9453]

Yup; I'd go with the Seamaster for sure. But in my own collection, instead of one Seamaster, I did a Mido Ocean Star 600 COSC, a Formex Reef COSC, and a bunch of other stuff...to me, once you get to chronometer level that's a darn fine watch, and I'm not inclined to pay triple the price for one of the GOATs when I could get an array of high quality pieces instead...all that said, I still want one, and will probably pick one up at some point.

[@CTRL84]

4th QC issue: there is something that looks like small smudged dirt on the hour hand, to the left of the lume dot. You can see it 13:53-14:13 but best shot is 14:04-14:05. Small issue but still.

[@yema5907]

Wow, I’m honestly surprised with that lume residual on dial. I’ve owned 3 omegas in different times, never experienced that bad QC issue. Would probably request a replacement of the watch if I were the owner.

[@BrittPearceWatches]

I was shocked by this too!

[@trollse8714]

Was

[@davidstewart3868]

And then there is the every day question...”Is that a real Rolex Submariner?”

[@jkokich]

What is your opinion on clone watches?

[@brianmsahin]

@@jkokich Clone sounds almost legitimate. Say it like it is. Fake..🙂

[@jkokich]

@@brianmsahin yes, agreed. Frolex, Faux-mega.

[@mdtaylor2274]

@@jkokich I actually have a replica and love it. Doesn't matter if I wear a genuine or fake Rolex. Everyone that looks at it will immediately think it's a copy in the first place.

[@jkokich]

@@mdtaylor2274 good point. Where did you get it, may I ask?

[@jd88gtr19]

A rolex can't replace an omega, and vice-versa. Love them both

[@Lachlan.Wright]

One day. I'm going to stick to Zelos for the time being.

[@whiteglovewatches9908]

That I can get behind. It’s beautiful but $$$

[@Ronin228]

Zelos QC is unacceptable

[@Lachlan.Wright]

@@Ronin228 interesting. I have 4 and haven't had any issues. What models have you had troubles with?

[@AnthonyLauder]

@@Ronin228 I think Zelos QC is as good as pretty much any brand. Not long ago, I saw a video where a Rolex dealer claimed about 10% of Rolexes are returned in the first year due to QC issues. He said that doesn't reflect badly on Rolex, since you cannot expect 100% perfection on every model.

[@dparis2172]

@@Ronin228 Unacceptable? 😂

[@Alias_Anybody]

It wears shockingly good for 42mm on 7 inches. I'd still change a few details though, sacrilegious I know: Get rid of the helium escape valve (or offer two versions) A bit less text on the dial The AR-upper-coating looks great but concerns me, if you scratch it off at one spot that may be distracting

[@tjwright]

take it from someone who has worn AR coated glasses forever... it DOES scratch and it does wear off, and when it does it looks terrible. It looks like water spots you can't get off (on my glasses at least)

[@jafo4u508]

I could care less about the Helium escape valve and I have one on mine. It doesn't bother me at all, but if you could cut costs and pass it on to the endline consumer, why not. If we want to buy it without the valve make it happen Omega. We buy your watches. Also that dive suit extension is useless for me also. I'm a Diver and I would never take this baby into the Ocean with me. That is what we have beat up watches and computers for. Who even looks at a dive watch underwater unless your computer went down honestly .

[@DaBrute]

I have the same click issue with my seamaster. It's kind of annoying and I've considered taking it back because of that

[@a_z.tazzzfan8497]

I don't play waiting games for non-necessities; not even when buying a new car. I'm not plunking down large sums of 💵 to wait weeks or even months to take possession. Life is not guaranteed. With that said; the grey dial/blue bezel model has my undivided attention.

[@John..18]

I got my SMP in July, when I asked for a discount, they just laughed,, saying, they can sell them as fast as they can get them, but I'd gone in expecting to pay full price, so I wasn't too upset,,, it's the watch of a lifetime for me, and I'm happy every day, when I put it on... ps,, my clasp is perfect,,,,

[@mikesharkey6]

I've heard the anti-reflective coating on the top of the crystal has a tendency to scratch. Otherwise it's awesome

[@erikkalifornia5182]

Yes it does, definitely a set back.

[@stevefox8605]

Really don't understand why anyone would choose a Rolex over an Omega - apart from the residual value. For me there's only one, the Seamaster - the Rolex is just too ubiquitous and I don't like the image. To each their own tho 😉 Love it, Cheers mate 👍🏻👍🏻

[@mr.bmt216a2]

Great video... thanx ! However, your suggestion that its HALF the price of the Rolex Submariner is still far too expensive and not a watch option (regardless of how excellent the SeaMaster is) for 99% of the population. Sorry 007,,, see you in September 😉. But having said that, I just opened a new bank account under an assumed name to start saving up for a SeaMaster. I'm hooked. 😛

[@johnlane6459]

I was lucky enough to get a planet ocean 8900 600M (sky fall) for my 50th birthday....... It is pure class. 😍

[@peakrider4886]

I’ve seen a few watch channels actually see this as a negative for Omega - all the special editions and limited editions they do. Personally I like the tie in with Bond, and exclusive runs of specific models make it feel perhaps a little more special.

[@johnlane6459]

@@peakrider4886 I agree, mine is not the JB version with the logo it is just the model that came out the year of sky fall. It’s the sea master he wears in the movie along with the Aqua terra.

[@WatchUnwind]

one hell of a watch

[@NicholasOdinson]

I’m getting this for my 30th birthday in August. This white dial looks amazing with the rubber strap. Great review!

[@rossmacdonald6089]

Nice quick nod to the voice of F1. RIP Murray Walker. Lovely watch but agree with your negatives on helium escape valve and 90's design not being timeless.

[@maxwellmeacham929]

Just picked up this with the blue dial to hold me over since Rolex SS sports are non existent. 25% off on bracelet, $3900 it’s a steal. Great watch. Still a Rolex fanboy though.

[@ForeverUnknowing]

My goodness, that white dial is sure something else. This may be the loveliest white dial watch I've laid eyes on to date! I love the SMP300 and have considered buying one a number of times. Most recently I looked at the 36mm version since I have smaller wrists. I say buy the Omega and spend part of the savings on a really nice Submariner homage, or maybe a Tudor Black Bay 58, another watch I'd buy before a sub.

[@JeeGee114]

There is/was only one Sea Master I liked. The "Peter Blake" in black.

[@tonyb67984]

Spot on ...I've had my"peter blake" sword hands for ages and it just looks superb and oozes class..I'm not a fan of the skeleton hands at all !

[@JeeGee114]

@@tonyb67984 You Sir are a very lucky man indeed.

[@cj.6988]

Agree the white dial is cool and a killer combo with the black bezel, but I tried four colour dials and was surprised I preferred the black dial, it just popped more, which is pricisely why you said it was better as it flys more under the radar less showy etc, but you are buying the dial? I thought the black dial would be a bit boring but surprisingly it had the edge for me when I tried all the colours, the white was a bit flat. I have a 7 inch wrist so can just about pull this watch off, but the black dial does also draw the eye in making the 42mm appear smaller as apposed to the white dial if you have smaller wrists than about 7 in it'll look a bit bigger maybe out of proportion. Plus, the black dial flys under the radar just the same as any other colour nobody appears to notice it blends in arguably no different to the white. No substitute for trying this watch on in different colours and the black dial had thege the

[@junesantos317]

What good is it to buy a watch that can’t be bought though you have the money? I’ll go with Omega any given day.

[@kopite1967]

Jody, buy yourself a Tudor they are now what Rolex used be with their in house movements, they're also COSC certified, but the Seamaster is a beautiful watch, it also has METAS certification. Rolex for me stopped being a Tool Watch maker years ago they're now nothing more than marketing executives wet dream!

[@TheBoldHairspring]

You know I couldn't agree more! I have a black bay heritage inhouse movement. It's been my favourite ever since I got it.

[@thegraciefighter102]

This SMP is no tool either - its fashion over function as the bezel is so hard to grip and the HEV is so poor

[@mickporter84]

Wow, those are some serious QC issues. I'm actually quite shocked at those. 😳

[@andrewshakespeare5471]

I have gone back and forth in which one to purchase for 12 months or more. Waiting for the Sub No Date for just under 12 months. My AD called me to say mine is in next - so now I really have to decide... what’s stopping me getting the Omega - THAT helium escape valve I just can’t love it 😔 going Sub to partner with Explorer, Explorer 2 and Speedmaster. My 4 watch collection will be completed.

[@ats-3693]

I have a 43.5 Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m with black ceramic dial and bezel, I took the steel bracelet off and replaced it with an Omega black with orange trim rubber dive strap so I could put the bracelet away and keep it looking new, I noticed I was putting small scratches on the bracelet clasp just from resting my arms on a table etc, the black and orange rubber dive strap looks great with the black dial and bezel and the orange Seamaster logo on the dial and orange tip on seconds hand.

[@ThePearlyBumMC]

Wow. The lume issue was a legit shocker.

[@JustOneMoreWatch]

I suspect Kevin will be visiting his AD next week......

[@AB-qc6pf]

I’m a proud owner of an SMP 300m and it’s my everyday wearer since 3 years. Never had a problem and it’s still running strong with +0.1 sec. a day. It’s also the watch that gets most compliments

[@charliewaffles3158]

About to set the new time on my Rolex Milly and the bracelet taper is nice!! My older 300 is nice too but with the same clasp issue but not all the time!! Great video!! Have i not seen subs on joma preowned? Buy preowned!!

[@adrianlovett3483]

Great video very balanced all bases covered. Here are my thoughts , when you spend that amount of money on a watch you have to really love it . So which one do you really love ? For me the Rolex is timeless and the best looking hence we have so many homages . It is like wearing a Ferrari on your wrist you know it and so does the world . It’s not better value but it can be sold should you fall on hard times and need the cash . BUT you can’t at the moment so you get a Homage for the time being put your name down on every list you can, look in every Rolex shop whenever you can and hope one day to get lucky. Alternatively if you really love the Omega get it for a deal and enjoy every moment knowing there are thousands of frustrated people waiting for a chance to hold the Rolex . Last thought if it has to be Rolex see if you can pick up a second hand one from a while ago , they will run forever with love and care .

[@horologywatchmaking13]

I'm quite shocked at the SMPD300 , i own 3 Omegas and they are perfect with no QC issues. Are you sure this SMPD300 is authentic? If it's real he should really exchange for a new one.

[@rfpal8543]

Got the grey dial one, still wouldn‘t buy any other version... It‘s the most special one among them, imho

[@jebbush2527]

Agree

[@botakchan3543]

Does anyone else wish that the newer models with the full co-axial movement were a bit slimmer? I had an older model SMP with ceramic bezel and flat black dial. Caliber 2500. Sold it to my friend because he really loved it and we could not find a good condition used one locally in Japan (Dec 2019). Still regret selling it, especially when I tried on the newer models and realize they sit a fair bit taller. Ended up with a BB58 and love it, but still look longingly at the SMP every time my friend wears it.

[@squintclinic]

I owned an Omega Seamaster Professional 300 for a few years. Even took it scuba diving in the Red Sea! It drew a lot of attention on an original Omega Shark Mesh. Too much attention for me..plus, I was always petrified of losing or damaging it. So I sold it, for a little more than I paid. Since then I’ve totally caught the flipping bug, moving through most of the Seiko back catalogue and quite a few Swiss micro brands. I’ve now got three watches, costing me less than the price of that Seamaster but giving me just as much joy!

[@jimmyschiel3863]

That is one beautiful watch, but I'm a poor farmer it's hard to justify $6500 for a watch. I'll have to be happy with my Восток Амфибия's and Seiko's. Makes my financial advisor (wife) happy to know I'm spending far less when I tell her "Oh it's just one more watch" LOL

[@zamSEG]

same here. i feel you bro.

[@xtreme_survival7879]

Omega's are just as good as Rolex, for nearly half the price GIVE ME AN OMEGA!

[@galaga8834]

I used to think that but Rolex kills Omega and I still have both.

[@xtreme_survival7879]

@@galaga8834 You sicko! how does Rolex kill Omega?! SICKO!!!!

[@sc2thrashmetal]

Rolex is hands down better than Omega. I own both.

[@scorpianbliz]

@@sc2thrashmetal Omegas keep better time and morereliable...I've owned both and Never had any issues with Omega. That has been my experience

[@galaga8834]

@@xtreme_survival7879 boo. 😀

[@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen]

The only thing that kept me from purchasing the seamaster is the escape valve. Never been a fan of the external value. I think there is definitely more value in SM300 than with the sub. I bought the seamaster spectre last year and love it.

[@elrockerchido]

the one with titanium anorange faux patina???

[@whereRbearsTeeth]

The clasp isn’t closing because the dive extension wasn’t closed properly

[@anasaly2549]

Yup, I got a watch for engagement. a 1$ one.

[@FadeToBlack2181]

I am fortunate enough to own the White SMP 300 and the 41m Sub No Date. I can say i love them both in their own right. But it felt a lot nicer getting a 20% discount on the Seamaster instead of paying the premium I did on the Sub.

[@waynee52]

Can I ask how you go about negotiating a discount. I hear a lot of people saying that they get discounts but I've never actually asked nor known how to ask for such things?

[@edwardpetersii6276]

@@waynee52 You have to look around for an ‘authorized’ Omega dealer that sells them. Some offer their watches at a ‘discounted’ price and others, full retail. The issue now of course is that many ‘authorized’ dealers of Omega have diminished and Omega boutiques have popped up in their place! I believe that many of Omega’s authorized dealers were discounting the watches ‘too’ much and as a result, was cheapening the brand! I understand that getting a discount can be nice but honestly, if the Omega is half the price of The Rolex and people honestly feel it’s just as much watch, why look for a discount? I would want to pay full retail and have Omega stay at ‘full’ capacity, making great watches for half the price than Rolex. Omega can run the risk of losing too much money if people keep ‘cheapening’ the brand! I mean, do people want something good for nothing? Rolex isn’t THAT good! People simply desire that which cannot be obtained! It clearly comes down to that! I mean, how many of the people who buy these watches will ‘actually’ use them for the purposes they’re intended to be used? All these features are for ‘show’ and bragging rights, which in the realm of reality and practicality is ‘literally’ absurd!

[@branchclan6112]

CLASP: I bought a new Omega SMP Chonograph in Sept 2021. The clasp jammed after a week. Sent watch to Omega, and they advised there is a manufacturer defect on the clasp. They replaced with new clasp and paid for overnight shipping both ways. Top notch service. After 3 weeks, new clasp works great.

[@chairmakerPete]

Love the white dial version rather more than is healthy for a middle-aged man. Going to get this very watch, even though I could afford the Rolex and could sit out the year or two waiting list pantomime. Not going to play the Rolex game; that completely puts me off their brand, indulging as it is in some bizarre power play. When, (and it is when) Rolex loses its backlog and the hype is exposed, it'll be amusing to see the climbdown from that haughty perch and how many dealers have to be nice to customers rather than the other way around. Great review - thank you!

[@1973retrorabbit]

It was one of Omega's customers, a doctor whom works with an MRI machine that asked if they could make a watch he could wear at work... turns out, yes, yes they can. You also hit some shockingly high magnetic fields in your pocket because of your mobile phone. Your Submariner can't withstand the speakers on your phone, then there's the accuracy... top reasons not to choose the sub for me though is the cyclops and the new beefed up case looks terrible, completely lost all sense of proportion.

[@alexpiptom]

I mean to say the modern submariner “can’t withstand the speakers on your phone” is patently clap trap mumbo jumbo nonsense.

[@michaelbishop9157]

@@alexpiptom as is the rest of his / her post

[@MasterChronometer]

It’s funny how tastes change. I used to like this watch and now I find it hideous.

[@alanm96]

Same, but in reverse. I used to hate this watch but I love it now lol.

[@brandonnickerson8934]

Is it the 1990s style? It doesn't age like a Sub, that's for sure.

[@MasterChronometer]

@@brandonnickerson8934 I don’t like the sub either 😂

[@ronaldbruce6845]

My dad has the same watch in the same colorway. He had the same problem with the clasp. He went back to the AD he bought it from and the problem was with the divers extension not sitting as flat inside the clasp as it should. His AD in Nashville, TN replaced the clasp with a brand new one and it was fine for a few weeks and then started having the same issue. He has just decided to live with it.

[@tkm3207]

Great review. The white dial is the only way to go! But if they want to make everyone buy it as opposed to a Rolex then they need to change a few things... 1. Make a better looking bracelet! Taper it down to 17mm and no polished bling 2. Get rid of the cupcake at 10 o’clock! Nobody needs it! 3. Solid sword hands! Like the 2254.50! YMMV, but IMHO it would really make this watch even more amazing!

[@MrBouch66]

Nice nod to Murray Walker 😢

[@vegard2000]

Even though a Seiko can have a myriad of different QC issues, atleast they manage to put all the lume on the indices.

[@ams914]

Lume is all they got, let's face it.

[@Shavenuw129]

Rolex every day. Bought a Submariner new in 2005. It's my everyday watch and still looks like new and is worth about 300% more now. I also have a Seamaster Aqua Terra golf edition which is stunning, but just a tad behind the Sub

[@draganbalzic4493]

I started flipping watches in ‘87. My primary focus Rolex, Patek, VC, and AP until I stumbled upon a 50th Anniversary Seamaster GMT (in the late 90’s). I’ve loved Omega since that day. They haven’t replaced my Daytonas, Rolex GMTs on or Explorer 2s but Omegas have become part of my collection and inventory. PS: You DO NOT need a helium escape valve unless you are a commercial saturation diver living in a helium rich hyperbaric habitat. Helium DOES NOT magically enter ones watch while you and or it are submerged in water. Helium is one of the least soluble gases and is present in seawater at no more than 7ppt. Source=science, 20 years as a commercial saturation diver and 6 years as a U.S. Navy diver.

[@AW-wm9bk]

I bought 3times a Submariner, I sold all of them, because I found out : These are just boring watches, sorry. Now I own the SMP-Polar for about 1.5 years.. I love it! The White and Black - contrast is so cool!

[@IrishScribbler]

That’s very much what I thought too. I have the choice between a Sub 126610LN or a black dial Seamaster, and I’m currently leaning more towards the Omega simply because it had more character. I know retro is cool but unless you look closely, it’s difficult to distinguish between the pre ceramic Sub and the latest version, whereas the Seamaster is a visible improvement on the 1990s version.