Rolex Sea-Dweller "Challenger" Titanium Leaked? (2022 Release)

[@ID-Guy]

The Speculation / Design of the Sea-Dweller starts at 10:20. This video covers a brief history of the Deepsea, a talk around Depth, the Future of Titanium and ends with the Design of this new model. What are your thoughts on the possible changes this new model will receive?

[@michaelturner7949]

You reign supreme for being the most eloquent and knowledgeable presenter of watches!

[@ID-Guy]

Ah Mike, thank you. It's just three coffees and a few notes off camera that makes all the difference ;)

[@brocbradley2313]

Ditto. Can't say it any better. First class video and information

[@BertM3]

The current seadweller 43mm is a awsome piece. Wear it every day. It's a great fit if you are a slightly bigger person. Ie I have 20cm wrist circumference. If I wear a GMTII or a Submariner they look like baby watches compared to the SD43. (actually the GMTII with stock jubilee bracelet barely fits over my hands) Love the adjustment as well. I live in Asia where it's sometimes 40 degrees celcius, and work/visit in Europe where it's colder, causing you wrist to expand and shrink. And setting it slightly smaller or bigger is very easy. Designwise I would have left the cyclops off but that is the only thing. The only drawback of the seadwellers is the thickness of the case. 15mm for 43mm and 17mm for the deepsea. If you need to wear one under a suit or something then a different model might be more convenient. As for stainless steel versus titanium. Titanium is much lighter than stainless steel but for the same volume/material size stainless steel is actually stronger. So if you wish to create a case that is equally strong to the stainless case, it would have to be bigger. This comes into play when you wish to design a watch able to withstand 3900m, it would likely make the watch even bigger than the deepsea. Titanium would actually be more suited for watches like the GMTII or Submariner for that reason, when you are talking practical use.

[@williamstalvey6920]

Am so glad Rolex got it right and put out a 50 mm 23 mm thick Divers. This watch is a game changer 4 sure and Titanium is so cool and much lighter. As always, great job for this utilitarian bad ass tool watch. Total Bad Ass!!!

[@Hocksman]

Very brilliantly researched and well narrated!

[@9er..]

Dude… one of your best videos ever!!!!! I’m watching it over and over again.

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you brother. It's the footage that makes the difference ;) Really means a lot that you can take the time out of your day to watch these clips, seriously...

[@IdaelDiaz]

When you mentioned the orange color I lost it, lol jajajajjaj

[@alvinmick218]

The Deep Sea is much more appealing to me than the Submariner. Probably the only model that Rolex still offers that could truly be considered a “tool watch”. Really fantastic photography!!

[@ID-Guy]

To think they used to offer all the OG Sea Dwellers with optional divers extensions and all sorts... even diving logbooks with each watch! Ah, how times have changed. And thank you Alvin as always!

[@vincent67239]

@@ID-Guy I suppose I’m lucky in getting the 126660 Deepsea last year before they removed the diver’s extension from the updated model this year. And yes, I have the James Cameron model :) Love that little pop of green

[@Sandouras]

It's basically a bigger, bulkier Sub. I dont see the difference. You just have more water resistance, for the dives you wont be making anyway.

[@vincent67239]

@@Sandouras But the over-engineering is just so _cool._

[@jimmyjay122]

@@vincent67239 it was primarily the dial for me. Also it looked much more well proportioned when it came to the transition from the lugs to bracelet compared to the older Subs and their “super case”

[@skzion2]

When you say "100 meters," do you really mean 100 feet (30 meters)? Nitrogen narcosis tends to be a problem south of 100 ft. 130 ft is considered the maximum depth for recreational diving. Below that involves "technical diving." I am a mere Advanced Open Water Diver, so mixes involving helium (Trimix) are beyond my knowledge level. However, the gas in one's tank is delivered ultimately at the ambient pressure, which depends on depth. This means that breathing at depth uses more air than breathing at the surface. That said, at recreational depths, a decently designed regulator will not require more effort to breathe than at the surface.

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you for expanding on this! I removed a segment at the beginning of this section where I wanted to use "100m" as a round number and in there I mentioned 30m's is a good standard. It got way too technical ;) In reality, I was trying to get across how mad it is to travel to a depth of 100m's let alone the 300m's most watches are rated to. The world of gasses and pressure in water is crazy... something I definitely need to dabble in. Thank you again for clearing up these details!

[@mt24Carson]

Great points. While I have not dived in several years, I also am an Advanced Open Water diver. The deepest I have been down is ~150 feet...it was at the base of a reef, and when you looked to the other side, all you saw was the dark utter blackness. You can really feel the pressure affecting you. Any further down, as noted you would need another mixture such as Nitrox. Not much of a Rolex fan generally, though if they make good on a titanium Yacht Master, I will definitely take a look. Thanks @IDGuy as always. 👍⌚️🍷🎸🥃🏔🌲

[@skzion2]

@@mt24Carson My max depth is 134 ft, which is technically 4 ft too deep for my certification. Things do change at this depth, as you point out. I can't imagine taking a Rolex diving at today's prices.

[@brianlloyd4796]

Saturation means you are saturated with the medium which you are breathing not just nitrogen. You can do air saturation or mixed gas (helium and oxygen) saturation. Past 50m water depth we use mixed gas

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you for clearing this up Brian! I should've thrown in more specifics about mixing gasses. There was an entire segment I cut where I used "100m" as a round number and went through discussing 30m's etc. It would've waaay too extensive for the audience ;)

[@brianlloyd4796]

@@ID-Guy you should have kept it in as it’s interesting as to why you need the helium escape valve👌👌👌

[@chrisstevenson2622]

This is one of the frustrating things about a brand like Rolex. When is the last time they’ve gone out on a limb and have taken risks and designed a watch that really turns heads and is a conversation starter? Instead, Rolex plays it safe and comes out with the same thing just slightly different. Watch makers have been coming out with Titanium watches for decades so Rolex comes out with a watch in a slightly different Titanium and they slap on “it’s revolutionary”, “ground breaking” and “it’s never been done before” when in reality other companies have done the work and Rolex gets all the fanfare.

[@kentvonseverin1257]

I agree. Pass.

[@ID-Guy]

The last time IMO was the Sky-Dweller. That piece is genuinely amazing in terms of watchmaking and composition (as a vintage inspired flyers watch) But too often today it's either recasing or adjusting sizes. Going Titanium now, after the glowing success Tudor has had with the material and virtually every other brand under the sun, does feel like playing catchup. Always dig your takes Chris!

[@chrisstevenson2622]

@@ID-Guy they could take the sky-king and do a commemorative piece honoring the pilots of WW2 and put it on a bund strap and take the submariner and do a throwback to the Rolex submariner they used to issue Navy UDT/SEALS. Heck, it would be awesome if they dug in their vault and brought back the Rolex bubble back. They could take the Rolex Milgauss and add a timing bezel. There’s so much they could do but they choose to play it safe.

[@chrisstevenson2622]

@r2l100 how is bringing back a discontinued piece highlighting an inferior product when it’s made with modern materials??

[@chrisstevenson2622]

@r2l100 yea. I guess that’s why Rolex in my opinion is a bloated brand that relies on catchy advertising. I guess that’s why I like any brand other than Rolex in a field watch design. My watch is a tool and it’s on my wrist everyday no matter what I’m doing. The only thing I did was ditch the bracelet and built a great collection of RAF, NATO & ZULU straps to match what the activity I’m going to be doing.

[@davidb5720]

I love the fact that you put out a lot of Omega content. There’s not enough channels that would do this. You’re genuine love and knowledge of watches shines through and it’s so refreshing to see content made this way. Your 300 is a bit of a grail for me and I’m more than a bit jealous! 😉 keep making these excellent videos please! 👍

[@anthonysmith2982]

...that '57 Seamaster re-issue is *beautiful* isn't it David? So much more personality than a modern Submariner, better looking than a BB58 (which is saying something!) and a more interesting movement than them both.

[@davidb5720]

@@anthonysmith2982 it’s an absolute stunner. Beautifully made, looks amazing and just a better dive watch than anything out there. The more I see it, the more I want one!

[@ID-Guy]

If there was one brand I'd have to cover for the rest of my life, it would be Omega. And thank you David (as always) I'll have to include the 300 in more and more clips ;) Have a great weekend brother!

[@davidb5720]

@@ID-Guy brilliant! The history, chronometer achievements, sporting and space involvement and the jewels from the archives would probably permit that! I only have a first gen planet ocean, a master coaxial Aqua Terra blue dial, and a sapphire Speedmaster, but every time I see your 300, I yearn to somehow add that to my small collection and feel it would complete it! Have a great weekend and I look forward to your next posting! 👍

[@gelmibson883]

Woo! A deepsea for deskdiving and a F.P.Journe for the range. Full auto! Crazy times.

[@ID-Guy]

I'd love to see and FPJ subjected to full-auto vibrations. Has to be a Resonance to take the blows and equal them out ;)

[@SPQR-Z]

Man these big bulky 44mm Sea Dwellers. Who buys/wears these things? You see tons of them on the used market for relatively cheap as far as Rolex prices go. A Deep Sea Challenge in Ti would be interesting as a design exercise and for bragging rights. I’m sure it will be collectible if released as a limited edition. The 2014-16 SD4K 40mm ceramic was probably the best Sea Dweller Rolex put out. It still had the tapered lug case but all the modern upgrades. At 40mm it was still everyday wearable. It didn’t sell well and Rolex discontinued it after only 2.5 years. As a short production transitional model it should be a future collectible

[@ID-Guy]

Loved that SD4k... Saw one in the wild once and nearly wept. Proportions galore. It's also mind-blowing how many people go after these 44mm SD's. They maybe aren't the most talked about models BUT there's big demand for them. Agree with you though, that 40mm SD (first ceramic bezel) was something special... I'd have one in a heartbeat! Thanks for sharing Evan!

[@leomarsic289]

men buy it, not losers

[@SPQR-Z]

Compensating

[@00-Fresh-Snow-00]

Rolex vs Omega. Ferrari vs Lamborghini. Coke vs Pepsi. Rivalries that date back decades are fun to watch. And ultimately all this competition means better products and more choices for consumers. I've never tried on a titanium watch before, but if it truly is lighter than steel then I agree with your notion of a DEEPSEA using such material considering how chunky and robust it would be. But what about the submarine steel famously used by Sinn UX models? I'm no expert but aren't they just as strong as titanium, or perhaps they're just as heavy as stainless steel? Anyhoo, thumbs up with your choice of using orange as the DEEPSEA's accent color (Rolex better pay attention or at least give credit if the ever choose to go this route 👍). Now if only Adamantium or Vibranium are actual metals... 😁 Cheers 🍺

[@ID-Guy]

Ah Fresh. Once you go Titanium... I'd say it's at least 1/3rd lighter than steel? So it makes a larger watch (fatter case) feel so much lighter on the wrist. And as for Sinn's Sub Steel, I have no idea how they manage to get the hardness so spot on... BUT the take home is that Titanium ends up being Lighter, less corrosive, completely hypoallergenic and stronger than stainless steel (not necessarily scratch resistant) It's a fascinating metal. I so wish more brands would run with it! - Adamantium... now we're talking!! WolverineSea ;)

[@djdc81]

@@ID-Guy I had a Tudor Pelagos in titanium. I just didn't bond with it, felt a bit cheap with no heft. I have a Rolex SeaDweller and wouldn't trade it for a titanium version.

[@lskovly]

I own an Sinn UX since 2014 and so far no marks or scratches on the case, but a few on the AR coating. Maybe a new shappire on the next battery and oil service...

[@samjep2]

excellent review 👍

[@ID-Guy]

Appreciate it Sam and thank you! Love doing these deep-dive talks ;)

[@Sandouras]

I am so excited. A completely new design from Rolex, not a reissue of the same design with a different material or color. Oh wait....

[@ID-Guy]

That's is why most of us are more invested in brands like Omega, Tudor, Oris, Longines etc. these days - those makers like to keep us on our toes ;) This comment made me chuckle.

[@seiko_monster_legend]

Brilliant work buddy, keep up the great content.

[@ID-Guy]

Appreciate it Wayne and thank you for taking the time out of your day to watch the clip!

[@jays9211]

Well you were spot on with your info

[@JackBoeau]

Some explanation. You need to add hellium to the air mix, not because oxygen got smaller and there is no diffference in force you require to take a breath at 10, 50 or 100 meters. The regulator adjusts to the changing prussure and keeps air supply without a change. The problem is that your lungs take the same vollume of air, but with higher prussure the air is enriched and you multiply the number of oxygen atoms you get with each breath. The oxygen ratio in the air mix stays at 20%, but below 40 meters, you get so much of it, as if you breathed with the pure oxygen on the surface. Above this threshold, the oxygen becomes toxic, your cells receive too much of it and it ends up in seizure and death. To mitigate it you need to deplete air and add another gas (hellium) to lower the oxyngen ratio in the mix.

[@jays9211]

You information on this watch was spot on. Congratulations

[@joker14n]

It feels like Rolex has been waiting to drop a bomb with their intro to titanium, and this should do the job. They seem to be firing on all cylinders. And great narrative as usual.

[@ID-Guy]

It just makes sense that they'd debut it on their most hardcore diver, right? It sounds extremely believable! Well hey, time to jump on the hype train before AD's get too many pre-bookings ;) Thank you as always Cary!

[@tarasmathers7423]

IMHO, highly accurate analysis, on your part. You put a lot of effort, into the making of your productions, and it shows. Very entertaining, and very well done. Cheers....

[@davecorry7723]

Small correction on your definition of "Saturation diving." Saturation diving is when you dive so deep that when you came back up, your clothes are saturated 😁

[@jasonwest2072]

you were right. It was released on November 1st 2022. deepsea challenge 50mm titanium seadweller.

[@fourthwatchman]

Seeing this today… This is scarily spot on!

[@watchsixto]

If this is true I'm pretty sure invicta can offer them a big case for their new sea-dweller 😆

[@ID-Guy]

Invicta are the professionals in this area! 47mm+ divers and counting! ;)

[@coronetmag]

I thought the new DeepSea Challenge in titanium would have a 3230 calibre. So, no date?

[@NeoWahNah]

Yup! No date!

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Another amazing video, your channel deserves a lot more subs brother 👏 Miguel

[@jollyrob]

The possibilities of titanium are being explored on watches other than divers too. The A Lange & Sohne Odysseus now comes in what might be the world's best finished titanium watch.

[@ID-Guy]

That Titanium Odysseus looks so incredible... It's exactly how the material should be used. More and more "daily" watches should get the treatment. Great shout Rob!

[@james6048]

You should be called the Postman because you always deliver. 👊

[@brianlloyd4796]

Love the channel by the way

[@tar1895]

Really informative presentation. Well done. Just goes to show the water resistance is almost completely irrelevant to most people. Most people’s dive watch is only going to get wet when it rains.

[@ID-Guy]

It's actually mad how much water a watch can take AND most take their watches off before heading out into the rain haha! Love it ;)

[@anthonysmith2982]

So true... I always laugh when I hear people say 'Ugh. It's only got 100m WR'!! Jaysuz... I remember how my much my ears hurt at the bottom of a 3m pool!! 😂

[@russell996]

Amazing work, congratulations on another wonderful video. Would love to see this piece come to market.

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you Russell! We really need more titanium pieces in the world. Definitely makes rocking these bigger cased models easier (and less cumbersome) ;)

[@ErikL727]

It's really odd to me that almost every other brand has been using titanium for at least the past 30 years, and all the while Rolex has been "testing" the material. Seems "a day late and a dollar short."

[@ID-Guy]

Really is old news, right? Just like Apple. When they announce it the entire world loses their minds. It will be interesting to see how they makeup the RLX Titanium though (the carbon content and anthracite used in the alloy) It looks so dark it's almost DLC. The funniest thing is once Rolex goes Titanium, so many, many other brands will start using it (ramping up production)

[@ErikL727]

@@ID-Guy since most Titanium is mined in Russia, now they can claim its a Precious Metal! 🤣🤣🤣

[@ID-Guy]

@@ErikL727 I always thought it was more prominent in southern hemispheres like South Africa and Australia? Every day is a school day! ;) It'll be beyond a precious metal! Unobtanium won't even cut it!

[@AK-rq1cz]

Testing, and they "discovered" that it's the same strength as steel at 45% of the weight. But it scratches easier, groundbreaking 🙀

[@chrisstevenson2622]

I agree.

[@robertlock6041]

You were bang on the money with this one... (1-11-2022). 👍🥂

[@ianmarshall3633]

I would have to go with you on this prediction. You have been pretty spot on with your previous ones. A nod to JC, the watch might as well be made of " unobtainium ". Because the likes of you or I will never be able to obtain one.

[@ID-Guy]

Appreciate it Ian. There are moments when some of these guesses are happy accidents (in recent times, the Tudor Pro, the Green & Black GMT) This one with all of the talk around Titanium and Omega bringing out their model - everything's pointing in this direction methinks ;)

[@ianmarshall3633]

@@ID-Guy You say happy accident, but that's hell of a list of happy accidents. Maybe you can pick my lottery numbers and we can go halves when we win 🤣

[@TheBelse]

Well explained, Great info ..thank you and big love.

[@bbrebozo6417]

Jean-Frédérique Dufour is responding to other brands’ moves. Patek did a Tiffany blue nautilus, he pulls the baby blue OP. Omega does an ultra deep beating Rolex as the depth resistance, and he possibly responds with a Titanium sea dweller.

[@ID-Guy]

It's just the natural progression, right - Marketing always beats the innovators at the end of the day ;)

[@cjmcaulay]

@@ID-Guy If that isn’t the story of Rolex, right?

[@jonathana2079]

Good watch choice ID guy. I'm wearing my Goldeneye quartz Seamaster.

[@ID-Guy]

Museum worthy that machine ;) Love the OG SMP (and how it was used in the film) We can never go wrong with Omega...

[@MasterChief37]

@@ID-Guy that was my first good watch, I bought it in 1999, automatic 300 Professional, just like Bond wore. Yes I was influenced by the film.

[@jonathana2079]

@@ID-Guy I'm surprised it's still going on the original quartz movement.

[@ID-Guy]

@@jonathana2079 Guaranteed it'll be running for many more decades still. I handled an Oysterquartz from the 70's that to this day hadn't been serviced. The swiss know how to make killer quartz movements!

[@ID-Guy]

@@MasterChief37 I think they brought those auto's out just when "Die Another Day" aired? Also such a cool use of the watch in that film. Damnit, Brosnan bond used his watches the best... mad to think (because I'm a Connery diehard)

[@Thomas-vq5pb]

Rolex will probably not call it titanium, but something derived from titanium but home made, as they do with other materials they use. Unfortunately, it will probably be as you suggest 44 mm, and totally pumped up in terms of size and thickness.... but I guess you can't do without at those depth rating (unless you are Sinn or the Bell & Ross Deep Challenger or Hydromax, both filled their watch with a sort of liquid silicon to address high pressure). Thanks for the video!

[@ID-Guy]

Great shout on the oil filled cases Thomas! Others have pointed this out too. Crazy to think that the big names haven't dabbled with the tech. Have a great start to your weekend sir and thank you as always!

[@freshwaterfishman]

Titanium dive watch with matt dial and matt bezel. Where've I seen that before? Hmmm... Tudor Pelagos anyone?

[@ID-Guy]

One of the true modern day GOATs in the dive watch category ;)

[@georgehave]

Maybe we can simplify the depth ratings. Level 1 - can wear while washing your hands. Level 2- can wear in shower. Level 3- can wear while swimming. Etc.

[@ID-Guy]

Would be nice if there was a standardised 1, 2, 3 on dials, right? You'd think ISO would make this a staple nowadays ;) Great call George! I like your thinking!

[@ezjae]

You called it! Incredible.

[@chema4312]

Nice video! Love titanium too! I have a IWC Aquatimer 2000 in full titanium and I just can't get if of my wrist.

[@underachievingwatchcollect1878]

If the Tudor Pelagos FXD had a normal dive bezel and the Pelagos bracelet I would want for nothing 😎! Nothing says luxury like buying an over engineered dive watch with a depth rating no will come close to using. Crazy watch guys will want it-possibly even me😄! Best regards

[@ID-Guy]

Ah Underachieving, I know what you mean... there's something about that "madness" and "obsession" when it comes to these machines and what they are capable of doing. It's like owning a supercar and never taking it beyond 100mph - knowing full well it could easily do 200+ ;)

[@verykeen2please]

i just wish they would concrete on making their existing models to a reasonable level God i love that SEAMASTER

[@ID-Guy]

We all do brother. I'd have one in a heartbeat if they offered them in store (like they used to 5 or 6 years ago) it's madness. Then you go over to Omega and they take your breath away... truly are the hidden gems in this zone. Less pretentious, incredible movements / watchmaking, original designs, workhorses. If there was one brand I had to talk about for the rest of my life, it would be Omega ;)

[@Jam1s]

I would love to see a GMT Master in Titanium. As this metal is used all over aircraft specifically due to it's properties, I think it's would be a great addition to the line up! İnstead of the glossy finish, in practical terms a pilot needs a watch that does not reflect light round the flight deck, therefore a Matt finish would be great. İnstead of the current fashion line up Rolex offer's, I'd prefer to see high quality practical tool watches. Keep the dress watches to separate line ups. The professional line up should be more useable than they currently are.

[@bbrebozo6417]

The head of IWC says titanium cases are hard to machine. They should know, they’ve been doing it for a while.

[@alfieakaronaldog]

Personally I am a big Sea Dweller fan, as not at all keen on the slim and light Submariner. Pretty sure a titanium one would be the only one I would not want, but great if it was created and whooped Omegas Ultra Deep (which I do want). Love the Tudor Pelagos, but Rolex is a Steel watch for me.

[@ID-Guy]

If Rolex manages to release this model in Titanium and it out dives the Ultra Deep beyond 6000m, I'll publicly announce how impressed I am. It would be a helluva feat! Nice call on the Pelagos v Rolex in steel. Rolex steel will always have that unique lustre ;)

[@alfieakaronaldog]

@@ID-Guy A steel Rolex Diver is near perfection in a dive watch. I hope you agree design benefits massively from evolution/evolving. The Ultra Deep looks interesting, but it is just asking for a Rolex to go deeper……. With Style 😈

[@alfieakaronaldog]

Deeper….. With Style™️ 🤣

[@RebirthBeyond]

Great video. Perhaps titanium will be making a comeback assuming the demand for sports watches remains high. I own a BB36 and sometimes find it heavy after many hours of wear. I'm sure a titanium watch would be more comfortable after a long day.

[@ID-Guy]

It's crazy how much lighter Titanium feels side-by-side with steel. At least 1/3 less of the weight. All we can do is hope Drome. Big fan of those 36mm BB's, I love how "pure" they come across. And thank you for taking the time to watch the clip brother!

[@anthonysmith2982]

'...assuming the demand for sports watches stays high' is the part of your comment that *really* stood out to me Drome. Though you finding the BB36 to heavy is interesting too. Have you sensed a shift towards 'dressier' pieces is starting? Because I have. Hard to put into words, maybe the increased interest in Cartier, the new Omega Sector Dial (CK 859) the frenzy that Furlan Marri *and* Baltic created with Patek homages... I have no issue with homage pieces, particularly when we're talking about vintage pieces and 6 digit prices, neither does the majority of our hobby considering the interest those 2 watches, plus others from Longines, Massena Lab etc...

[@ID-Guy]

@@anthonysmith2982 The Smaller cased watches will never die I believe. There is definitely place for both the 42+, the 39's and the 36's. And absolutely! Like we've been talking about how this trend of following the steel integrated bracelet models has taken over (it'll soon pass) people are flocking to the different side of collecting in this hobby, which is a joy! It really warms my heart that a model like the CK859 is getting the fanfare it deserves ;)

[@RebirthBeyond]

​@@anthonysmith2982 Interest in dress watches is on the rise for sure and those examples you mention are valid. SS sports watches have had quite the run but eventually tastes will shift. Personally I hope manufacturers work on making slimmer cases (under 10mm). After a long day I can feel the BB36 weighing down on my wrist. It may look small but it is a very dense watch. This is why I am considering titanium for my next purchase.

[@anthonysmith2982]

@@RebirthBeyond Absolutely agree with you on the slimmer cases @drome. Especially as case sizes reduce. 11.5mm might be fine with a 40mm case but 36mm? Has to be 10mm or less. Hand winding is more than fine too. Nothing like winding a watch as you have a morning coffee and read the news! If you're my age it's reminiscent of your Dad!

[@willsmeg1967]

Another Amazing video, I’ve a 32 year old sea dweller 4000 & it’s still as good as it was 32 years ago just more rugged & vintage now, but I keep getting drawn back to the watch as your wearing in the video, Seamaster 300 and I wear mine on a regular basis. 👍🏼

[@williamstalvey6920]

Titanium always is an outstanding option, more specifically for a deep divers. .... Good video

[@13siniestro80]

The question is, mate or brushed and polished finish? Do Rolex wants a proper dive tool or a luxury finish like the Grand Seiko diver watches?

[@ID-Guy]

Rolex has always been known for the "shine" of their pieces BUT this could be the one time where they could make an exception and go all matte. You're right though, the brand choosing to go both ways with their finishing is interesting.

[@TenTen32]

Rolex released the DBlue in 2014. Just wanted to clarify that as your commentary seems to suggest the release date was 2012. That was the year James Cameron made the dive, not the year the watch was released.

[@nukie404]

Great video as always! Honestly kind of surprising that Rolex still doesn't have proper titanium watches... it'd be interesting to see if they release anything that might divert attention away from the Tudor Pelagos though.

[@ID-Guy]

Tudor struck that winning formula using Titanium right from the start with their Pelagos and now after seeing so many makers doing the same it's almost like Rolex is playing catchup BUT it'll be interesting to see what they bring the to table. Have a great start to your weekend brother!

[@23727bgk]

Wouldn't surprise me to see Rolex introduce this watch in Monterey California in August 2022..

[@Larry-gs8gb]

If watches can easily go deeper than their depth with no damage ,why do most watch manufacturers say you need at least 100 m rating minimum to go swimming ?

[@ID-Guy]

I think there's a divide (maybe it has to do with ISO and how watches are rated) but watches without screw down crowns generally have a WR of 30m - 50m. When a watch has 100m's it's almost guaranteed that they have screw down crowns. My thinking is the brand recommends 100m's because it's a way for them to cover their asses. Anything less than that and all the technicalities come in when people start use chronograph pushers underwater etc. etc.

[@user-wi9nn6dz8w]

A single red 42mm non-cyclops grade 23 titanium Sea-Dweller would be fantastic!

[@WestCoastAce27]

I like your orange idea. But since they use orange on the Exp II’s it may not happen. Coral?

[@ThD040]

Great episode once again. Deep Sea is such a cool watch. Sadly way to big for me, as is the Ploprof. Would love to be able to wear one of them but no such luck. I did have a Deep Sea on my wrist in 2013, that did make me pull the trigger on a BLNR.

[@ID-Guy]

And the BLNR was never a bad choice ;) I tried on the SD43 just when it launched and that size was a dream (even on my skinny wrist) I'd gladly get one IF they weren't like 30k or whatever they're sitting at now...

[@ThD040]

@@ID-Guy wait out and hope for the prices to drop or a dealer sells one at retail. If it is in the cards it will happen. I luckily never paid above retail. 2013 was even the time to get discounts. How times have changed.

[@Valvey789]

Actually it's a special alloy --Unobtitanium.

[@ID-Guy]

Nevergoingtownium ;)

[@tomthompson7400]

Why not , its a great idea ,,, still looks bulky though. Bring back the non hulky cases.

[@ID-Guy]

Would be amazing if they were made thinner but then that affects the depth these machines can travel. Titanium would make it SO much lighter though (definitely a great advantage)

[@tomthompson7400]

@@ID-Guy lets face it , apart from the numbers on the dial , and bragging rights at the bar , the difference between a depth rating of 200m and 2000m makes not one jot of a difference in real life , most folk I know take off their dive watches to shower.

[@ID-Guy]

@@tomthompson7400 Most people take their dive watches off before heading out into the rain hahaha! Fully agree Tom. I try to hammer home that point in this video about depth rating and how overkill it is (for divers and watches)

[@MasterChief37]

@@ID-Guy what’s your take on swimming with a Speedy Pro? Depth rating is 50m about 25 times the depth of most pools. I wouldn’t be concerned but many people 😱

[@ID-Guy]

@@MasterChief37 I personally wouldn't do it BUT I know two people who have been mad enough to have done it ;) The issue I reckon wouldn't appear at first (for a long time) but water around of those seals surrounding the chronograph pushers / crown would do stupid things and chances are micro droplets could work their way into the case over time. Just being around moisture in the air over the decades can affect the innards of a watch.

[@flippinzippo9670]

Titanium and rose gold could be interesting

[@ID-Guy]

Love that as a combo! Imagine how nice the RG would look surrounding plots and batons on a dial & case that's all matte finished? Dig it! Have a great start to your weekend sir, I hope you and the family are well!

[@flippinzippo9670]

@@ID-Guy alls well man, hope you’re good. Miss you brother

[@jamesgreig8796]

Hi ID Guy, Great and informative video as usual. Just on another point, I received correspondence from you ( acknowledging my comments ) and regarding a prize. Not quite sure if this was possibly a scam and are you aware of this? Kind regards and keep the great videos coming. 👍

[@neiljimenez1114]

Bumping this video because he was right.

[@Ossory88]

If I could chip in here for a second about depth ratings. The most crucial moment for a 200 metre watch is not the range between one meter and 200 metres. It is the impact upon which the watch hits the water and has to overcome the surface tension of the water. if you fall from a boat or jump from a cliff into water, the surface of water becomes really hard and the impact can be equivalent to much higher depth than 200 metres. So yes. Even for beach explorers who just enjoy jumping into water from a fairly high altitude, a 500 metre watch has its practical purpose.

[@rouge-gsd3061]

Even if they don't increase the depth rating I think Making a 44mm watch but slimmer would be a great alternative way. In titanium it would still carry that professional diver edge but a more compact case would outclass omega majorly in terms of wearability. Ironically enough it would be a similar situation to what happened to the ploprof way back when that competition was going on. Or more simply the over built idea is more omegas thing. Rolex just does simple miniscule changes that work extremely well.

[@Timjacks01]

Well you were ahead of the game as announced today (4 months on)

[@jjtinkler97]

Luckily I have one already, but its called Pelagos for some reason.

[@teecee9660]

great review

[@docfluty]

I love titanium. I've had a Momo Design titanium watch for years and am picking up a new Longines titanuim version next week. Very light and with the Longines having grade 5 titanium it should be very durable.

[@Giovan_Nino]

Guessing it could be even bigger than 44mm..how about 46mm, that would be something. Like the Big Pilot, The Big Sea Dweller Deep Sea..🤣

[@ID-Guy]

The "Deeper" Sea! Love it! ;) We could come up with the most ludicrous names...

[@Giovan_Nino]

@@ID-Guy ha ha..no end to the choice..but the possible change in colour is a brilliant guess…

[@Giovan_Nino]

@@ID-Guy ha ha, even bigger than the 46 big pilot, who’d have thunk it…50mm! Love it…

[@TESTA-CC]

best watch for the money is the CWC automatic divers watch. does exactly what it says on the tin for 1/10 of the price and holds value because of the heritage it's a timeless piece that every collector needs in there collection.

[@Supercruze]

Fantastic production video here. You really did your homework and it shows. I love the tool watch aesthetic and I believe Rolex has gotten away from that with many of their current sport watch models. I own a Sea Dweller 4000 Ceramic and love it. The one thing I wish it had is a matte dial and bezel insert. If your predictions come true, the new Deep Sea titanium anniversary model will be something to behold.

[@chrisstevenson2622]

I don’t understand why Titanium hasn’t been used earlier. It’s tougher and lighter than Steel and it doesn’t corrode. This to me a no brainer when selecting a Titanium for a tool watch. Who in their right mind would wear the Rolex Deep Sea if you don’t dive? This is like owning a car that goes 300mph when the speed limit is only 70. I guess if you want bragging rights and you don’t get enough attention from your family or friends.

[@simptrix007]

Grade 5 is used only in GS as far as I am aware of. Grade 2 scratches a lot.

[@chrisstevenson2622]

@@simptrix007 OMG a watch that goes to the deepest place on earth can’t survive a few scratches? GASP!!

[@lskovly]

Don`t underestimate the joy of deskdiving....

[@yongookguack9827]

This is very convincing me! And I’ve been waiting Titanium Rolex for long time! (I have metal allergy) Rolex must going to make their own inhouse Titanium material, so it took time and hope I could see it comingout soon!

[@KimHDRoberts]

Yeah, well, given that they've thoroughly tested titanium in a dive watch with the Pelagos, it's not a huge stretch to imagine a Sea Dweller in Ti...

[@treykasia127]

Is Rolly now chasing Omega? ... sure does seem so... I ditched Rolly in 2019 (sold my GMT II). When the Omega Ultra Deep released, I immediately put down a deposit. I like titanium and SS both.

[@Vlerkies]

Ahh, more Unobtanium, unlike Omega And I agree, rather than Kawa Green a KTM Orange would pop nicely on the matt finish.

[@Madmanmarque]

I love the '57!

[@AJ-bi6ns]

Love my SD43, if this is true... Looks like I'll have another diver watch ha

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

I have a Sea Dweller 2000 my. Drilled lugholes and a Swiss Only dial. Having owned a Submariner the Sea Dweller sits nicer on the wrist.

[@ID-Guy]

SD2000 is a classic! If I could find a birth year model of one of these it would be a dream. Fantastic watch and thanks for sharing Michael!

[@Yorkshiremadmick]

@@ID-Guy You should find one ☝🏻 on Eddies forum. Omega Manic will likely have one, whether he’s gunna sell is a different story. Good luck finding one.

[@ID-Guy]

@@Yorkshiremadmick It's going to happen one day. I've always had this soft spot for a Sea-Dweller. I think it's time to start hunting!

[@davidmb-1979]

The real surprise is the titanium explorer. (Manifesting, I know nothing).

[@ID-Guy]

Oooooooh. Honestly... Ti Exp1 and Exp2 would be everything... Imagine a 36mm Explorer in full titanium? There are actually some military issue explorers from back in the day with full PVD coating and they look... boss. I'd go mad for one of these ;)

[@davidmb-1979]

@@ID-Guy thanks for the response!!! I live in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado and consider myself to be a mountaineer, a titanium explorer is the dream. I currently wear my Pelagos when I climb, I’m also hopeful for an explorer homage from Tudor. The ice blue dial from the platinum Rolex would also work very well as it reminds me of the glaciers found at high altitude. Cheers 🍻

[@sasbar187]

great video

[@CaptCanuck4444]

I'd sell most of my collection own that titanium Yachtmaster no date. Closest thing to that watch (that actually exists) is the beautiful Omega Seamaster 300m in ceramic. Also no date.

[@CaptCanuck4444]

If they do make a new Deep Sea, hopefully they take a minimalist approach to dial text - unlike the current Deep Sea which is a mess of text.

[@actionarslan]

You called it, boss!

[@456MrPeople]

Well you were proven right.

[@Swedeslung]

There is no competition between the two brands, one brand carries the higher diving pedigree and the steadfastness in design including the everlasting and increasing value and renowned public opinion.

[@wisamal-hakim5531]

Awesome boykie. The only disappointment with your videos is that your speculation provides some stirring of the imagination and hope that rarely gets realised by the companies themselves. Your ideas are almost always better than the reality. I have a sea dweller and a seiko shogun which is titanium. Frankly I wear the seiko almost all the time as the seadweller is not convenient for everyday wear. It’s really heavy and nowhere near as comfortable. Having the best doesn’t make it practical necessarily but still great to own one

[@lbco5229]

Yes, yes, yes to titanium. Please don’t polish it! Celebrate the amazing metal.

[@TheLamyan35]

Today come rolex deepsea challenge titanium 50mm

[@leomarsic9814]

I have given up titanium, steel is steel and I would never buy a titanium watch! I love the feeling of wrist presence

[@NeoWahNah]

Rolex came through! Get one and share a wrist shot!

[@jasonwest2072]

you must be wrong because it is mid september and there is no titanium seadweller

[@NeoWahNah]

He called it! Haha

[@DiscoR53]

Titanium watches were kind of the thing in the late 90s early 2000s then they kind of a lot of favor.

[@jdc3636]

If I can’t walk in a store to buy one, whatever new models Rolex puts out are meaningless to me

[@tuomasholo]

I have a deep sea sea dweller and would prefer the lighter titanium.

[@gbsailing9436]

So they are finally catching up with everyone else!?!? Well NO,... not really. My ORIS ProDiver Chronograph has been in Titanium 3Km for over 10 years.

[@camarocarl7130]

I prefer the Australian pronunciation of Titanium.