Roman Catholic's Dogma of the Immaculate Conception

We went into a lengthy church history segment focusing upon the historical development of the Immaculate Conception and why any truth-loving person should reject it for the man-made doctrine it is.
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[@wc8048]

As someone tempted to the Catholic church, I have to say you are an excellent apologist.

[@davidbalicki3567]

If she proclaims that God is her Savior - what is God saving her from? Can't be sin, right?

[@s_hrndz0119]

it’s a weird moment when you realize that if Mary was perpetually a virgin then Joseph would’ve also been the same or at least never consummated the marriage 😬

[@childoftheonetrueking7761]

Documents that were validated as from John, Paul, Peter, James, Luke, Mark, and Matthew were well circulated and accepted. Rome was late to the game and simply re-iterated what was already being used by the Holy Spirit to spread God's Word. The New Testament Pre-dates all 'popes'.

[@ronedwards8239]

The dogma about Mary in the Catholic Church is bonkers!

[@mysticmouse7261]

I see no point in debating Catholicism which is self-authorising. It is its own final authority. Therefore Scrpture can be overriden.

[@KristiLEvans1]

I can’t believe this vid has 12k views. I’ve gone back to this so many times in my discussions about this (and other) dogmas. Should have a million views.

[@josephmyers9843]

Whosoever wishes to be saved needs above all to hold the Catholic Faith. Unless each one preserves this whole and inviolate he will without a doubt perish in eternity.

[@ldebrobander]

ALL have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God...Mary is no exception. Sin comes down through the seed of adam. And we can all be traced back to Adam. Each and everyone of us have an earthly father! The ONLY exception is the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit of God. Jesus had to be conceived by the Holy Spirit so that he would not be the seed of Adam and born under the curse of sin. Mary was blessed and highly favored. She was chosen by God to give birth to the Messiah. But you will never find a passage in scriprure where Jesus refers to Mary as his Mother. In fact, Jesus addresses Mary as "woman".

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

Noah found favor (grace) in God's eyes. That doesn't say anything about his spiritual condition, that is, he's still a man.

[@anthonym.7653]

This dogma was always a stretch and requires a lot of mental gymnastics to make it work.

[@dianehelena]

"St. Bernard...oh my goodness...he's not a dog, by the way." 🙂

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

The doctrine of Original Sin has a lot to do with the significance of the teaching about Mary's sinlessness. They say that Mary was born without Original Sin. My response is, "So was I."

[@KristiLEvans1]

There is a teaching that Joseph was “sanctified” before his birth. That is not something that has to be believed, of course. I find it interesting, the increasing crowd around Christ, that had aspects of their sinful humanity stripped. I don’t understand why that is necessary or “fitting”. The amazing miracle is that the God-man took on flesh, such as we have. He was fully human. Something about that really bothered the “fittingness” fathers.

[@pimpsarefilthy]

What is the 2nd commandment?

[@Sola_Scriptura_1.618]

As a recovering Roman Catholic who believes in the Sola Scriptura. As the RCC grows they grow apart from the word of God!

[@WinterIsLovely]

“But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith.”

[@bairfreedom]

I have thought the same things that James said about Paul at the end of this video. If Paul anathematized the Judiazers for adding 1 work to the Gospel......imagine what he would say to the Roman and Orthodox Churches Who do the OPPOSITE. They Anathematize if you don't believe in ADDITIONS to the gospel. It's what fallen humans do. That is why every religion on this earth does the same thing. They build systems that work to God. But The Christian Works FROM God. He has been saved therefore God has put his Spirit in him and that Spirit gives him a heart of repentance and good works. They also do it out of control and power. That is where alot of there operation came from. Can't do a thing without some sort of church participation. business, birth, burial, etc. ALL under one power for control. It doesn't work so much like that today. The RCC can't just saying something and people blindly believe it anymore. That is why they have lost so much power. Just the Bible being in the hands of lay people cut their membership practically in HALF when that happened. Now we have the internet and everyone can see these things they teach are just HUGE eisegetical stretches of the imagination. They build skyscrapers of theology out of matchsticks of scripture.

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

The doctrine of infallibility is the codification of the opposite of the scriptural warning to be not a respecter of persons.

[@denverfletcher9419]

The scriptures tell us that where sin abounds grace abounds much more. So Mary being "full of grace" implies something quite different from sinlessness, does it not?